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  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,041 Standard Supporter

    On a separate note, the fun of gin is also about the recipe… my favorite hands down (giant array of flavor agents creates complete magic) is the Sonoma based Benhams gin… give this a try, you will never go back to what you were drinking before.

    https://benhamsspirits.com/

    A neighbor of a buddy in Edmonds made me an incredible Gin & Tonic he learned the recipe for in Northern Spain. Big Giant Ice Balls in a Big Ballsy Glass, Hendrick's Gin, Some plant life, lime and some special tonic I can't remember the name of. I'm sure the recipe resides somewhere on the interwebs, but it didn't taste like any Gin & Tonic I'd ever drank before, and I found it Jolly Refreshing for a guy who doesn't typically do gin & tonics much. If I can find it, I'll post it, but I'm too fucking lazy to chase it down right now.
  • DawgOfTheAges
    DawgOfTheAges Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,754 Founders Club
    edited June 2022
    Here is a cool and quenching cocktail recipe for a gin and sonic [tonic and soda plus spices and lime]


  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,041 Standard Supporter
    Add juniper berries and some weed that looks like a dandelion or some shit.

    I dunno. Them Basque folks are weird.

    And also, apparently, my ancestors.

    Oh, is this not the non-traditional gin & tonic thread? My bad.
  • Mad_Son
    Mad_Son Member Posts: 10,194

    Fishpo31 said:

    I like my bourbon like I like my women...neat. Never had an Old Fashioned or a Manhattan...the blood of bootleggers runs in my veins...

    I do old fashioned without sugar. Big ice cube, bitters, a cherry. I don't go to CrossFit 6 days a week to out sugar in my drink.
    What's the point of going to CrossFit 6 days a week if you can't have a little sugar in the Old Fashioned is the question we should be asking.
    The obvious answer is pres since that tastes best anyways
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,313 Standard Supporter

    Fishpo31 said:

    I like my bourbon like I like my women...neat. Never had an Old Fashioned or a Manhattan...the blood of bootleggers runs in my veins...

    I do old fashioned without sugar. Big ice cube, bitters, a cherry. I don't go to CrossFit 6 days a week to out sugar in my drink.
    What's the point of going to CrossFit 6 days a week if you can't have a little sugar in the Old Fashioned is the question we should be asking.
    I think the point is so that he can tell people he goes to crossfit 6 times a week, as crossfitters are wont to do.
  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696

    Fishpo31 said:

    I like my bourbon like I like my women...neat. Never had an Old Fashioned or a Manhattan...the blood of bootleggers runs in my veins...

    I do old fashioned without sugar. Big ice cube, bitters, a cherry. I don't go to CrossFit 6 days a week to out sugar in my drink.
    What's the point of going to CrossFit 6 days a week if you can't have a little sugar in the Old Fashioned is the question we should be asking.
    I think the point is so that he can tell people he goes to crossfit 6 times a week, as crossfitters are wont to do.
    I like the old joke:

    What's the best way to know if someone does CrossFit?

    Talk to them for five seconds.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,041 Standard Supporter

    Swaye said:

    Note to self: When you start a bourbon thread in Yellas house it quickly becomes a Scotch thread. Fags.

    Bourbon threads inevitably veer in scotch takes and vice versa. Iron law.
    Mr. Robinson favored Scotch, too.

    "Scotch still your drink, Ben?"

    "Bourbon."

    Mr. Robinson - Clearly not listening - pours Ben a tall Scotch.

    Fucking love The Graduate.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,319 Founders Club

    Swaye said:

    Note to self: When you start a bourbon thread in Yellas house it quickly becomes a Scotch thread. Fags.

    Bourbon threads inevitably veer in scotch takes and vice versa. Iron law.
    Mr. Robinson favored Scotch, too.

    "Scotch still your drink, Ben?"

    "Bourbon."

    Mr. Robinson - Clearly not listening - pours Ben a tall Scotch.

    Fucking love The Graduate.
    One of my all time favorite scenes @TurdBomber
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    edited June 2022

    I’m in my bourbon phase. And I’ve tasted and drank many from all over and many price points. After all that, I’ve settled on Evan Williams as my everyday house bourbon. Way underrated and over looked. In a different bottle this would be 3 times the price.

    It's probably underrated, but still Wild Turkey 101 is easily the most underrated value bourbon there is.

    Always trust in higher proof whiskey. Iron law. Even Williams at 86 proof just doesn't hold together in an old fashioned like 101.

    Watered down whiskey regardless of price point sucks. Hence, why Basil Hayden (80 proof is for fags).
    Wild turkey is the best.

    What's odd to me is it has a connotation of being like hardcore.

    So I'll be at a business thing and I'll be like y'all got any wild turkey and everyone around me is like ohhh turkey guy huh.


    Like yeah dude it's good.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    edited June 2022
    I just find a lot of it too sweet. After like one I'm like ugh get me something else.

    Need the high rye

    To preface this I always love the first one. Just can't do the second.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,319 Founders Club

    I’m in my bourbon phase. And I’ve tasted and drank many from all over and many price points. After all that, I’ve settled on Evan Williams as my everyday house bourbon. Way underrated and over looked. In a different bottle this would be 3 times the price.

    It's probably underrated, but still Wild Turkey 101 is easily the most underrated value bourbon there is.

    Always trust in higher proof whiskey. Iron law. Even Williams at 86 proof just doesn't hold together in an old fashioned like 101.

    Watered down whiskey regardless of price point sucks. Hence, why Basil Hayden (80 proof is for fags).
    Wild turkey is the best.

    What's odd to me is it has a connotation of being like hardcore.

    So I'll be at a business thing and I'll be like y'all got any wild turkey and everyone around me is like ohhh turkey guy huh.


    Like yeah dude it's good.
    It’s great house bourbon. I drank a couple wild Turkeys on the rocks today.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662

    I’m in my bourbon phase. And I’ve tasted and drank many from all over and many price points. After all that, I’ve settled on Evan Williams as my everyday house bourbon. Way underrated and over looked. In a different bottle this would be 3 times the price.

    It's probably underrated, but still Wild Turkey 101 is easily the most underrated value bourbon there is.

    Always trust in higher proof whiskey. Iron law. Even Williams at 86 proof just doesn't hold together in an old fashioned like 101.

    Watered down whiskey regardless of price point sucks. Hence, why Basil Hayden (80 proof is for fags).
    Wild turkey is the best.

    What's odd to me is it has a connotation of being like hardcore.

    So I'll be at a business thing and I'll be like y'all got any wild turkey and everyone around me is like ohhh turkey guy huh.


    Like yeah dude it's good.
    It’s great house bourbon. I drank a couple wild Turkeys on the rocks today.
    That when you started talkin shit
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,319 Founders Club

    I’m in my bourbon phase. And I’ve tasted and drank many from all over and many price points. After all that, I’ve settled on Evan Williams as my everyday house bourbon. Way underrated and over looked. In a different bottle this would be 3 times the price.

    It's probably underrated, but still Wild Turkey 101 is easily the most underrated value bourbon there is.

    Always trust in higher proof whiskey. Iron law. Even Williams at 86 proof just doesn't hold together in an old fashioned like 101.

    Watered down whiskey regardless of price point sucks. Hence, why Basil Hayden (80 proof is for fags).
    Wild turkey is the best.

    What's odd to me is it has a connotation of being like hardcore.

    So I'll be at a business thing and I'll be like y'all got any wild turkey and everyone around me is like ohhh turkey guy huh.


    Like yeah dude it's good.
    It’s great house bourbon. I drank a couple wild Turkeys on the rocks today.
    That when you started talkin shit
    Wild Turkey takes my shit poasting / shit talking game to the next level.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662

    I’m in my bourbon phase. And I’ve tasted and drank many from all over and many price points. After all that, I’ve settled on Evan Williams as my everyday house bourbon. Way underrated and over looked. In a different bottle this would be 3 times the price.

    It's probably underrated, but still Wild Turkey 101 is easily the most underrated value bourbon there is.

    Always trust in higher proof whiskey. Iron law. Even Williams at 86 proof just doesn't hold together in an old fashioned like 101.

    Watered down whiskey regardless of price point sucks. Hence, why Basil Hayden (80 proof is for fags).
    Wild turkey is the best.

    What's odd to me is it has a connotation of being like hardcore.

    So I'll be at a business thing and I'll be like y'all got any wild turkey and everyone around me is like ohhh turkey guy huh.


    Like yeah dude it's good.
    It’s great house bourbon. I drank a couple wild Turkeys on the rocks today.
    That when you started talkin shit

    I’m in my bourbon phase. And I’ve tasted and drank many from all over and many price points. After all that, I’ve settled on Evan Williams as my everyday house bourbon. Way underrated and over looked. In a different bottle this would be 3 times the price.

    It's probably underrated, but still Wild Turkey 101 is easily the most underrated value bourbon there is.

    Always trust in higher proof whiskey. Iron law. Even Williams at 86 proof just doesn't hold together in an old fashioned like 101.

    Watered down whiskey regardless of price point sucks. Hence, why Basil Hayden (80 proof is for fags).
    Wild turkey is the best.

    What's odd to me is it has a connotation of being like hardcore.

    So I'll be at a business thing and I'll be like y'all got any wild turkey and everyone around me is like ohhh turkey guy huh.


    Like yeah dude it's good.
    It’s great house bourbon. I drank a couple wild Turkeys on the rocks today.
    That when you started talkin shit
    Wild Turkey takes my shit poasting / shit talking game to the next level.
    The turk takes no prisoners

    Can't beat the kicken chicken
  • StLouisDawg
    StLouisDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 553 Founders Club
    I like sherry cask bourbons. Rabbit Hole has a nice profile. Makers has some reserve editions that are quite enjoyable as well.

    As for general bourbon, I have 2 groups: mass consumption, for which Jim Beam can’t be beat (jack tastes like bananas to me), and classy, which includes the sherry’s and Joseph magnus, which I highly recommend.

    Special occasions I break out the Blantons collection…regular, gold, black and green. Always a hit.

    And a tip to getting hard to get bottles (blantons, clase Azul tequila, anything not pappy) is find a bar owner willing to sell on the side. Usually it’s an extra 50 bucks over retail.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662

    I like sherry cask bourbons. Rabbit Hole has a nice profile. Makers has some reserve editions that are quite enjoyable as well.

    As for general bourbon, I have 2 groups: mass consumption, for which Jim Beam can’t be beat (jack tastes like bananas to me), and classy, which includes the sherry’s and Joseph magnus, which I highly recommend.

    Special occasions I break out the Blantons collection…regular, gold, black and green. Always a hit.

    And a tip to getting hard to get bottles (blantons, clase Azul tequila, anything not pappy) is find a bar owner willing to sell on the side. Usually it’s an extra 50 bucks over retail.

    You sound like a vagina. I feel like your next step is white claw
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,515
    I picked up a bottle of Four Roses Single Barrel the other day. Pretty damn tasty.

    Pretty much any "popular on the internet" bourbon (Eagle Rare, Blanton's, etc ) is super hard to find right now. Even fucking regular old Bufalo Trace is becoming somewhat scarce.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,319 Founders Club

    I picked up a bottle of Four Roses Single Barrel the other day. Pretty damn tasty.

    Pretty much any "popular on the internet" bourbon (Eagle Rare, Blanton's, etc ) is super hard to find right now. Even fucking regular old Bufalo Trace is becoming somewhat scarce.

    It’s decent stuff.
  • DawgOfTheAges
    DawgOfTheAges Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,754 Founders Club
    edited July 2022

    I’m in my bourbon phase. And I’ve tasted and drank many from all over and many price points. After all that, I’ve settled on Evan Williams as my everyday house bourbon. Way underrated and over looked. In a different bottle this would be 3 times the price.

    It's probably underrated, but still Wild Turkey 101 is easily the most underrated value bourbon there is.

    Always trust in higher proof whiskey. Iron law. Even Williams at 86 proof just doesn't hold together in an old fashioned like 101.

    Watered down whiskey regardless of price point sucks. Hence, why Basil Hayden (80 proof is for fags).
    Wild turkey is the best.

    What's odd to me is it has a connotation of being like hardcore.

    So I'll be at a business thing and I'll be like y'all got any wild turkey and everyone around me is like ohhh turkey guy huh.


    Like yeah dude it's good.
    This is funny to hear that the perception still exists.

    The origin of that is that Wild Turkey 101 in history was the first well known brand to offer the public the opportunity to drink a bourbon at closer to barrel strength. The difference was that was that the industry standard was 80 proof and and this was geometrically stronger.

    Today, the fun thing is that you can actually buy some of your favorite brands at barrel strength [116 proof or so] if you want which is pretty cool from a flavor standpoint.

    As kids most of us had never heard of blending it with vermouth, lemon and other flavoring agents to make a Manhattan, old fashioned or bourbon/ whiskey sour etc.., and adding water defeated the purpose so they drank it straight leading them to their first fucked up experience ~ a point in time that resonated for the rest of their lives in some cases, which is really what you are hearing when you hear "ohhh turkey guy huh"

    Now of course 100 proof and a blend of 7-8 years of aged bourbon has become the standard of higher quality product offerings for many major brands, so the remaining taste difference is the 13% Rye and the number 4 sharp oak barrel flavor which is the taste signature for Turkey 101.
  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696
    Every board's gotta have a Wild Turkey superiority guy.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,319 Founders Club

    Every board's gotta have a Wild Turkey superiority guy.

    It's been my house bourbon for years. I could drink like infinity of simple syrup laden old fashioneds made with Wild Turkey watching Godfather 1 and 2 back to back. @MikeDamone would be passed out and dying of diabetes.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,000
    Finally saw this thread...couple comments.

    Only reason men don't like good Scotch is because they were never taught how to drink it correctly. When you sip it keep your mouth closed and don't let any air it...if air gets in it burns and you won't taste a thing. You do it right and its a whole different experience.

    Also, if you hate money the best mixed drink in the world is Single Barrel Jack and Mexican Coke. I'm a Scotch guy but I grew up in Tennessee and am more than a little partial to the various iterations of Jack Daniels.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,041 Standard Supporter

    Swaye said:

    Swaye said:

    Just thinking about Scotch is making me grimace. A friend left a bottle of Dewer's at my E WA place and I did drink it, eventually, mixing it with anything I had, even just water. But again, I just can't drink Scotch straight, or I'm pretty sure I'll die.

    Scotch doesn't make me want to die, but it is still strong. The one I liked the best (small sample size but still) is when @PurpleBaze sent me a bottle of Arran 10. That was good stuff. Still put a big fat fucking ice cube in it but I liked it a bunch and didn't feel like I was getting throat punched. There were a few other Scotch brands that had a bunch of promise, but ultimately, like you, I just think I'm probably not a Scotch guy.

    I have been a rum guy for 30 years (rum sodomy and the lash!), and my whiskey guides and others have correctly pointed out that the sweetness of bourbon is an easy transition for my taste buds after so many gallons of rum. I just dig bourbon. Especially wheated bourbons. I think I'm hooked.
    Funny that Rum is often considered to be rot-gut whiskey for the pours (like me). I've always liked it with almost any kind of fruit juice and fucking lived on it in the West Indies. Cruzan, btw, is underrated.

    But a Spanish-speaking white guy friend of mine with a hispanic wife turned me onto this Flor De Cana stuff a couple of years ago, and it's outstanding straight.


    Rum is my jam. I've had all of it, from every maker. FDC is a staple for me (just polished off a bottle of 12 year) but Zacapa really is my shit. Love it. The XO stuff is sublime, and the 23 year was made for sipping. Nectar of the Gods type shit.



    @PurpleBaze just treated me to some rare Opthimus rum that is 25 year aged and finished in malt whiskey barrels. It's expensive, and I haven't tried it yet, but I am very much looking forward to it.



    https://rumratings.com/rum/1850-opthimus-25-year-malt-whiskey-finish
    If they sell it at Total Wine or Bevmo, it's going into my liquor cabinet, toot-sweet.
    Got bottle of Zacara and another Guatemalan Rum - El Pasador de Oro, which were both delicious straight. Drank them with my soccer fag friends who dragged me to Lumen field to watch Portland kick the Sounders' asses. Ha, ha.

    Pioneer Square and the stadium areas are fucking shit-holes, anymore. All that garbage isn't from the homeless or the addicts. The Majority of seattleites are shit-for-brains faggot-losers in desperate need of multiple ass-kickings.

    Oops, wrong thread again. Oh Darn.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,068

    Finally saw this thread...couple comments.

    Only reason men don't like good Scotch is because they were never taught how to drink it correctly. When you sip it keep your mouth closed and don't let any air it...if air gets in it burns and you won't taste a thing. You do it right and its a whole different experience.

    Also, if you hate money the best mixed drink in the world is Single Barrel Jack and Mexican Coke. I'm a Scotch guy but I grew up in Tennessee and am more than a little partial to the various iterations of Jack Daniels.

    IFL sotch and the only thing about it that holds me back is being a pour. I'm about 81% corn liquor and 19% Scotch on a annual basis.

    JD Daniels single barrel is pretty decent, but come on with the whiskey and coke. That's a terrible drink. @Swaye and @creepycoug say "hold our Cuba Libres!"
    Give me the sweet stuff. I'm not man enough for the Whiskey. I know this will come as a surprise to many of you, but my birth did not involve me emerging from Fidel's head fully grown, dressed and armed screaming my battle cry. I actually have a real father, and that man has consumed more J Walker Blue Label than any human being should and his liver is in tact. I plan to donate it to science. He has had enough JW "with a splash" to kill three men.

    I never acquired a taste for whiskey. Maybe @HoustonHusky 's advice will help me next time I try. I'm going to remember it.
  • Fishpo31
    Fishpo31 Member Posts: 2,640
    I had a session with The Turk in high school, and it turned out as you'd expect...will have to re-visit, since it's been 40+years. Half of "my people" are from Tennessee, and several relatives worked there, including a master distiller @HoustonHusky...
  • DawgOfTheAges
    DawgOfTheAges Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,754 Founders Club

    Every board's gotta have a Wild Turkey superiority guy.

    I was actually thinking about posting that as part of my message as I was typing out my "really great" information superiority missive..
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,126 Standard Supporter
    Traveling with a certified bourbon connoisseur - he swears by a bourbon called “Johnny Redcorn” out of South Carolina. Above anything out of Kentucky.

    Will verify but had many conversations and the dude is legit whiskey sommelier. Attended school and has ongoing training on the subject matter.