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Assuming he believes this, he’s saying a bunch of dead kids and the destruction of a country is worth it.46XiJCAB said:The WH says the Ukraine War. And Joey says this is all good in the end as it will usher in renewable energy and EV’s. But it’s not on purpose.
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No shit. We currently consume approximately (the equivalent of) 13.5 Billion kWh/day of gasoline. We also currently consume on average approximately 11 Billion kWh/day of electricity. EVs are more efficient than ICE powered vehicles, but still, even ignoring diesel, we would realistically have to increase our current electrical power generation and grid capacity to something like 150% - 175% of current to completely transition to EVs. The cost to do this would be crushing, and to do so without nuclear power plants is beyond impractical, a unicorn farts fancy feast. To tap into the CURRENT grid with all those additional EVs would be enormously stupid. Rolling black outs? Grid failure.MikeDamone said:Can't wait for the rolling blackouts when 50 million vehicles need to be charged daily using solar and wind power.
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Don’t forget we need to remove dams on the lower snake. They are no bueno. More windmills along the Columbia is the answer.Southerndawg said:
No shit. We currently consume approximately (the equivalent of) 13.5 Billion kWh/day of gasoline. We also currently consume on average approximately 11 Billion kWh/day of electricity. EVs are more efficient than ICE powered vehicles, but still, even ignoring diesel, we would realistically have to increase our current electrical power generation and grid capacity to something like 150% - 175% of current to completely transition to EVs. The cost to do this would be crushing, and to do so without nuclear power plants is beyond impractical, a unicorn farts fancy feast. To tap into the CURRENT grid with all those additional EVs would be enormously stupid. Rolling black outs? Grid failure.MikeDamone said:Can't wait for the rolling blackouts when 50 million vehicles need to be charged daily using solar and wind power.
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CollegeDoogs plan of burning wood chips makes more sense than Biden’s bullshit.
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Seriously? Did not know that. Gotta give it to the green cultists. They're committed. Replace perhaps the most "green" form of energy production with an impractical ideal. True believers.MikeDamone said:
Don’t forget we need to remove dams on the lower snake. They are no bueno. More windmills along the Columbia is the answer.Southerndawg said:
No shit. We currently consume approximately (the equivalent of) 13.5 Billion kWh/day of gasoline. We also currently consume on average approximately 11 Billion kWh/day of electricity. EVs are more efficient than ICE powered vehicles, but still, even ignoring diesel, we would realistically have to increase our current electrical power generation and grid capacity to something like 150% - 175% of current to completely transition to EVs. The cost to do this would be crushing, and to do so without nuclear power plants is beyond impractical, a unicorn farts fancy feast. To tap into the CURRENT grid with all those additional EVs would be enormously stupid. Rolling black outs? Grid failure.MikeDamone said:Can't wait for the rolling blackouts when 50 million vehicles need to be charged daily using solar and wind power.
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How can EVs be more efficient than ICEs when the EVs have no lifetime CO2 advantage over ICEs when all the inputs are used? If they were more efficient, then the government wouldn't need to be involved in the massive subsidization of EVs and solar and wind power and the mandates that ICEs be eventually banned.Southerndawg said:
No shit. We currently consume approximately (the equivalent of) 13.5 Billion kWh/day of gasoline. We also currently consume on average approximately 11 Billion kWh/day of electricity. EVs are more efficient than ICE powered vehicles, but still, even ignoring diesel, we would realistically have to increase our current electrical power generation and grid capacity to something like 150% - 175% of current to completely transition to EVs. The cost to do this would be crushing, and to do so without nuclear power plants is beyond impractical, a unicorn farts fancy feast. To tap into the CURRENT grid with all those additional EVs would be enormously stupid. Rolling black outs? Grid failure.MikeDamone said:Can't wait for the rolling blackouts when 50 million vehicles need to be charged daily using solar and wind power.
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https://www.kuow.org/stories/time-is-running-out-for-salmon-as-the-snake-river-dam-removal-debate-enters-a-new-phaseSoutherndawg said:
Seriously? Did not know that. Gotta give it to the green cultists. They're committed. Replace perhaps the most "green" form of energy production with an impractical ideal. True believers.MikeDamone said:
Don’t forget we need to remove dams on the lower snake. They are no bueno. More windmills along the Columbia is the answer.Southerndawg said:
No shit. We currently consume approximately (the equivalent of) 13.5 Billion kWh/day of gasoline. We also currently consume on average approximately 11 Billion kWh/day of electricity. EVs are more efficient than ICE powered vehicles, but still, even ignoring diesel, we would realistically have to increase our current electrical power generation and grid capacity to something like 150% - 175% of current to completely transition to EVs. The cost to do this would be crushing, and to do so without nuclear power plants is beyond impractical, a unicorn farts fancy feast. To tap into the CURRENT grid with all those additional EVs would be enormously stupid. Rolling black outs? Grid failure.MikeDamone said:Can't wait for the rolling blackouts when 50 million vehicles need to be charged daily using solar and wind power.
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/environment/new-state-federal-report-puts-10-27-billion-price-tag-on-lower-snake-river-dam-removal/ -
Thought it was Ultra MAGAs. Oops!
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If they were smart about this, the left that is they wouldn't be pushing EV's, they would be pushing rail like Europe has...it is pretty slick, the trains go everywhere, but they still have cars as well, but much less since the trains are so efficient. Problem is cost, but they were just willing to spend 2 trillion on crap... well if they reallocated those funds to that type of project it would accomplish their goals and be useful... you still need airports because nobody is taking a train across county, but it would be very efficient to land at an airport like I did in Zurich and go right up in the mountains on the trains....
Now having said that I don't think the cost is even close to worth it as it would cost trillions, but if that is their goal, that's where they should start and it would work... the pocketbook would suck for a few years though. -
As much as euros are fags, the rail system works. I took trains all over. Cheap. Easy. Fast. And they go to small towns.Goduckies said:If they were smart about this, the left that is they wouldn't be pushing EV's, they would be pushing rail like Europe has...it is pretty slick, the trains go everywhere, but they still have cars as well, but much less since the trains are so efficient. Problem is cost, but they were just willing to spend 2 trillion on crap... well if they reallocated those funds to that type of project it would accomplish their goals and be useful... you still need airports because nobody is taking a train across county, but it would be very efficient to land at an airport like I did in Zurich and go right up in the mountains on the trains....
Now having said that I don't think the cost is even close to worth it as it would cost trillions, but if that is their goal, that's where they should start and it would work... the pocketbook would suck for a few years though.
For the US to build something like this government would have to get the fuck out of the way. The California bullet train is a poster child for shitty government projects. They pay 10x more for it and it sucks if it ever even gets done. Last time I heard Portland light rail now costs about 200 million/mile to build.
