Biggest driver of inflation
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To quote the very non-political Mrs. Throbber v2.0 - "How stupid do they think we are?"46XiJCAB said:The WH says the Ukraine War. And Joey says this is all good in the end as it will usher in renewable energy and EV’s. But it’s not on purpose.
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46XiJCAB said:
The WH says the Ukraine War. And Joey says this is all good in the end as it will usher in renewable energy and EV’s. But it’s not on purpose.
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Inflation started in late February?
EV's are nice and all, but the EV equivalent to the vehicle I'm taking delivery of this week doesn't exist as of today, and when it does in 1 year it will start at a 50% premium over what I'm paying for the ICE equivalent. EV's are nowhere close to becoming mainstream for all. -
Its TRUMP
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Driving inflation jifs:
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Can't wait for the rolling blackouts when 50 million vehicles need to be charged daily using solar and wind power.
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Let alone 280 million. Electrical production and the entire grid grid from the power plant to the home outlet would need to be massively modified. We do not have the capacity to go green. This is to prevent us from travelling. It's all about control.MikeDamone said:Can't wait for the rolling blackouts when 50 million vehicles need to be charged daily using solar and wind power.
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Yeah, the wheat needs to be in and you are harvesting from first daylight until dusk for days. Your harvester needs to be charged every 3 hours. Just need to buy three harvesters or two extra set of batteries, then swap out a couple of tons of batteries. That won't take any time or effort.Sledog said:
Let alone 280 million. Electrical production and the entire grid grid from the power plant to the home outlet would need to be massively modified. We do not have the capacity to go green. This is to prevent us from travelling. It's all about control.MikeDamone said:Can't wait for the rolling blackouts when 50 million vehicles need to be charged daily using solar and wind power.
I wonder how those EV harvesters and farm equipment are doing? -
Members of the Green Religion can't be bothered with real world problems that their pipe dream will cause. They've seen it all work in Guardians of the Galaxy.WestlinnDuck said:Yeah, the wheat needs to be in and you are harvesting from first daylight until dusk for days. Your harvester needs to be charged every 3 hours. Just need to buy three harvesters or two extra set of batteries, then swap out a couple of tons of batteries. That won't take any time or effort.
Sledog said:
Let alone 280 million. Electrical production and the entire grid grid from the power plant to the home outlet would need to be massively modified. We do not have the capacity to go green. This is to prevent us from travelling. It's all about control.MikeDamone said:Can't wait for the rolling blackouts when 50 million vehicles need to be charged daily using solar and wind power.
I wonder how those EV harvesters and farm equipment are doing? -
Nuclear power is the only answer. But the idiots shut that down years ago.Sledog said:
Let alone 280 million. Electrical production and the entire grid grid from the power plant to the home outlet would need to be massively modified. We do not have the capacity to go green. This is to prevent us from travelling. It's all about control.MikeDamone said:Can't wait for the rolling blackouts when 50 million vehicles need to be charged daily using solar and wind power.
I wonder how those EV harvesters and farm equipment are doing? -
Assuming he believes this, he’s saying a bunch of dead kids and the destruction of a country is worth it.46XiJCAB said:The WH says the Ukraine War. And Joey says this is all good in the end as it will usher in renewable energy and EV’s. But it’s not on purpose.
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No shit. We currently consume approximately (the equivalent of) 13.5 Billion kWh/day of gasoline. We also currently consume on average approximately 11 Billion kWh/day of electricity. EVs are more efficient than ICE powered vehicles, but still, even ignoring diesel, we would realistically have to increase our current electrical power generation and grid capacity to something like 150% - 175% of current to completely transition to EVs. The cost to do this would be crushing, and to do so without nuclear power plants is beyond impractical, a unicorn farts fancy feast. To tap into the CURRENT grid with all those additional EVs would be enormously stupid. Rolling black outs? Grid failure.MikeDamone said:Can't wait for the rolling blackouts when 50 million vehicles need to be charged daily using solar and wind power.
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Don’t forget we need to remove dams on the lower snake. They are no bueno. More windmills along the Columbia is the answer.Southerndawg said:
No shit. We currently consume approximately (the equivalent of) 13.5 Billion kWh/day of gasoline. We also currently consume on average approximately 11 Billion kWh/day of electricity. EVs are more efficient than ICE powered vehicles, but still, even ignoring diesel, we would realistically have to increase our current electrical power generation and grid capacity to something like 150% - 175% of current to completely transition to EVs. The cost to do this would be crushing, and to do so without nuclear power plants is beyond impractical, a unicorn farts fancy feast. To tap into the CURRENT grid with all those additional EVs would be enormously stupid. Rolling black outs? Grid failure.MikeDamone said:Can't wait for the rolling blackouts when 50 million vehicles need to be charged daily using solar and wind power.
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CollegeDoogs plan of burning wood chips makes more sense than Biden’s bullshit.
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Seriously? Did not know that. Gotta give it to the green cultists. They're committed. Replace perhaps the most "green" form of energy production with an impractical ideal. True believers.MikeDamone said:
Don’t forget we need to remove dams on the lower snake. They are no bueno. More windmills along the Columbia is the answer.Southerndawg said:
No shit. We currently consume approximately (the equivalent of) 13.5 Billion kWh/day of gasoline. We also currently consume on average approximately 11 Billion kWh/day of electricity. EVs are more efficient than ICE powered vehicles, but still, even ignoring diesel, we would realistically have to increase our current electrical power generation and grid capacity to something like 150% - 175% of current to completely transition to EVs. The cost to do this would be crushing, and to do so without nuclear power plants is beyond impractical, a unicorn farts fancy feast. To tap into the CURRENT grid with all those additional EVs would be enormously stupid. Rolling black outs? Grid failure.MikeDamone said:Can't wait for the rolling blackouts when 50 million vehicles need to be charged daily using solar and wind power.
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How can EVs be more efficient than ICEs when the EVs have no lifetime CO2 advantage over ICEs when all the inputs are used? If they were more efficient, then the government wouldn't need to be involved in the massive subsidization of EVs and solar and wind power and the mandates that ICEs be eventually banned.Southerndawg said:
No shit. We currently consume approximately (the equivalent of) 13.5 Billion kWh/day of gasoline. We also currently consume on average approximately 11 Billion kWh/day of electricity. EVs are more efficient than ICE powered vehicles, but still, even ignoring diesel, we would realistically have to increase our current electrical power generation and grid capacity to something like 150% - 175% of current to completely transition to EVs. The cost to do this would be crushing, and to do so without nuclear power plants is beyond impractical, a unicorn farts fancy feast. To tap into the CURRENT grid with all those additional EVs would be enormously stupid. Rolling black outs? Grid failure.MikeDamone said:Can't wait for the rolling blackouts when 50 million vehicles need to be charged daily using solar and wind power.
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https://www.kuow.org/stories/time-is-running-out-for-salmon-as-the-snake-river-dam-removal-debate-enters-a-new-phaseSoutherndawg said:
Seriously? Did not know that. Gotta give it to the green cultists. They're committed. Replace perhaps the most "green" form of energy production with an impractical ideal. True believers.MikeDamone said:
Don’t forget we need to remove dams on the lower snake. They are no bueno. More windmills along the Columbia is the answer.Southerndawg said:
No shit. We currently consume approximately (the equivalent of) 13.5 Billion kWh/day of gasoline. We also currently consume on average approximately 11 Billion kWh/day of electricity. EVs are more efficient than ICE powered vehicles, but still, even ignoring diesel, we would realistically have to increase our current electrical power generation and grid capacity to something like 150% - 175% of current to completely transition to EVs. The cost to do this would be crushing, and to do so without nuclear power plants is beyond impractical, a unicorn farts fancy feast. To tap into the CURRENT grid with all those additional EVs would be enormously stupid. Rolling black outs? Grid failure.MikeDamone said:Can't wait for the rolling blackouts when 50 million vehicles need to be charged daily using solar and wind power.
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/environment/new-state-federal-report-puts-10-27-billion-price-tag-on-lower-snake-river-dam-removal/ -
Thought it was Ultra MAGAs. Oops!
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If they were smart about this, the left that is they wouldn't be pushing EV's, they would be pushing rail like Europe has...it is pretty slick, the trains go everywhere, but they still have cars as well, but much less since the trains are so efficient. Problem is cost, but they were just willing to spend 2 trillion on crap... well if they reallocated those funds to that type of project it would accomplish their goals and be useful... you still need airports because nobody is taking a train across county, but it would be very efficient to land at an airport like I did in Zurich and go right up in the mountains on the trains....
Now having said that I don't think the cost is even close to worth it as it would cost trillions, but if that is their goal, that's where they should start and it would work... the pocketbook would suck for a few years though. -
As much as euros are fags, the rail system works. I took trains all over. Cheap. Easy. Fast. And they go to small towns.Goduckies said:If they were smart about this, the left that is they wouldn't be pushing EV's, they would be pushing rail like Europe has...it is pretty slick, the trains go everywhere, but they still have cars as well, but much less since the trains are so efficient. Problem is cost, but they were just willing to spend 2 trillion on crap... well if they reallocated those funds to that type of project it would accomplish their goals and be useful... you still need airports because nobody is taking a train across county, but it would be very efficient to land at an airport like I did in Zurich and go right up in the mountains on the trains....
Now having said that I don't think the cost is even close to worth it as it would cost trillions, but if that is their goal, that's where they should start and it would work... the pocketbook would suck for a few years though.
For the US to build something like this government would have to get the fuck out of the way. The California bullet train is a poster child for shitty government projects. They pay 10x more for it and it sucks if it ever even gets done. Last time I heard Portland light rail now costs about 200 million/mile to build. -
Because it's already built inMikeDamone said:
As much as euros are fags, the rail system works. I took trains all over. Cheap. Easy. Fast. And they go to small towns.Goduckies said:If they were smart about this, the left that is they wouldn't be pushing EV's, they would be pushing rail like Europe has...it is pretty slick, the trains go everywhere, but they still have cars as well, but much less since the trains are so efficient. Problem is cost, but they were just willing to spend 2 trillion on crap... well if they reallocated those funds to that type of project it would accomplish their goals and be useful... you still need airports because nobody is taking a train across county, but it would be very efficient to land at an airport like I did in Zurich and go right up in the mountains on the trains....
Now having said that I don't think the cost is even close to worth it as it would cost trillions, but if that is their goal, that's where they should start and it would work... the pocketbook would suck for a few years though.
In America you have to plow through neighborhoods to put your fix rail 1820 tech in
East coast rail works
West coast mass transit is what you want the other assholes on the freeway to take and rail is fine as long as NIMBY
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Euro rail makes east coast rail look silly.RaceBannon said:
Because it's already built inMikeDamone said:
As much as euros are fags, the rail system works. I took trains all over. Cheap. Easy. Fast. And they go to small towns.Goduckies said:If they were smart about this, the left that is they wouldn't be pushing EV's, they would be pushing rail like Europe has...it is pretty slick, the trains go everywhere, but they still have cars as well, but much less since the trains are so efficient. Problem is cost, but they were just willing to spend 2 trillion on crap... well if they reallocated those funds to that type of project it would accomplish their goals and be useful... you still need airports because nobody is taking a train across county, but it would be very efficient to land at an airport like I did in Zurich and go right up in the mountains on the trains....
Now having said that I don't think the cost is even close to worth it as it would cost trillions, but if that is their goal, that's where they should start and it would work... the pocketbook would suck for a few years though.
In America you have to plow through neighborhoods to put your fix rail 1820 tech in
East coast rail works
West coast mass transit is what you want the other assholes on the freeway to take and rail is fine as long as NIMBY -
Joe Biden. Dazzler knows. That’s why he won’t talk about his ignorant vote.
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Portland light rail does not work when you need it most - during temperature extremes - heat waves or freezing type temps.MikeDamone said:
As much as euros are fags, the rail system works. I took trains all over. Cheap. Easy. Fast. And they go to small towns.Goduckies said:If they were smart about this, the left that is they wouldn't be pushing EV's, they would be pushing rail like Europe has...it is pretty slick, the trains go everywhere, but they still have cars as well, but much less since the trains are so efficient. Problem is cost, but they were just willing to spend 2 trillion on crap... well if they reallocated those funds to that type of project it would accomplish their goals and be useful... you still need airports because nobody is taking a train across county, but it would be very efficient to land at an airport like I did in Zurich and go right up in the mountains on the trains....
Now having said that I don't think the cost is even close to worth it as it would cost trillions, but if that is their goal, that's where they should start and it would work... the pocketbook would suck for a few years though.
For the US to build something like this government would have to get the fuck out of the way. The California bullet train is a poster child for shitty government projects. They pay 10x more for it and it sucks if it ever even gets done. Last time I heard Portland light rail now costs about 200 million/mile to build. -
Or if you want to go someplace other than a crime ridden shithole area. Like near Sven’s place. It’s easy walking distance to his lower middle class domiciletrublue said:
Portland light rail does not work when you need it most - during temperature extremes - heat waves or freezing type temps.MikeDamone said:
As much as euros are fags, the rail system works. I took trains all over. Cheap. Easy. Fast. And they go to small towns.Goduckies said:If they were smart about this, the left that is they wouldn't be pushing EV's, they would be pushing rail like Europe has...it is pretty slick, the trains go everywhere, but they still have cars as well, but much less since the trains are so efficient. Problem is cost, but they were just willing to spend 2 trillion on crap... well if they reallocated those funds to that type of project it would accomplish their goals and be useful... you still need airports because nobody is taking a train across county, but it would be very efficient to land at an airport like I did in Zurich and go right up in the mountains on the trains....
Now having said that I don't think the cost is even close to worth it as it would cost trillions, but if that is their goal, that's where they should start and it would work... the pocketbook would suck for a few years though.
For the US to build something like this government would have to get the fuck out of the way. The California bullet train is a poster child for shitty government projects. They pay 10x more for it and it sucks if it ever even gets done. Last time I heard Portland light rail now costs about 200 million/mile to build. -
Euro rail seems to be a lot safer than US rail. Taking Tri-Met in Portland is like going to a third world. Look at how Giuliani cleaned up the NY transit system. Went from Bernie Goetz and Charles Bronson to safest large transit system in the US. Now its back to the Jungle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VNMg-dbQk0
MikeDamone said:
Euro rail makes east coast rail look silly.RaceBannon said:
Because it's already built inMikeDamone said:
As much as euros are fags, the rail system works. I took trains all over. Cheap. Easy. Fast. And they go to small towns.Goduckies said:If they were smart about this, the left that is they wouldn't be pushing EV's, they would be pushing rail like Europe has...it is pretty slick, the trains go everywhere, but they still have cars as well, but much less since the trains are so efficient. Problem is cost, but they were just willing to spend 2 trillion on crap... well if they reallocated those funds to that type of project it would accomplish their goals and be useful... you still need airports because nobody is taking a train across county, but it would be very efficient to land at an airport like I did in Zurich and go right up in the mountains on the trains....
Now having said that I don't think the cost is even close to worth it as it would cost trillions, but if that is their goal, that's where they should start and it would work... the pocketbook would suck for a few years though.
In America you have to plow through neighborhoods to put your fix rail 1820 tech in
East coast rail works
West coast mass transit is what you want the other assholes on the freeway to take and rail is fine as long as NIMBY -
The the NEC is a joke compared to Europe... 125 mph max and too many curves. The only positive about WW2 is when they rebuilt Europe they put the trains in and it is very efficient now.
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Also, western Europe has a much larger population density, sort of like the north eastern corridor of the US were Amtrak makes some sense. Plus the local US governments use their transit funds as a union slush fund. Everyone is overpaid and underworked. Not sure what is going on in Europe. Look at BART in the Bay Area. Should be pretty much paid for, but they are not collecting fares, not maintaining track and trains and no way to effectively police the trains when there is no penalty for most crimes in SF.Goduckies said:
The the NEC is a joke compared to Europe... 125 mph max and too many curves. The only positive about WW2 is when they rebuilt Europe they put the trains in and it is very efficient now.
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I think what we are saying is everything the left touches turns to shit.WestlinnDuck said:Also, western Europe has a much larger population density, sort of like the north eastern corridor of the US were Amtrak makes some sense. Plus the local US governments use their transit funds as a union slush fund. Everyone is overpaid and underworked. Not sure what is going on in Europe. Look at BART in the Bay Area. Should be pretty much paid for, but they are not collecting fares, not maintaining track and trains and no way to effectively police the trains when there is no penalty for most crimes in SF.
Goduckies said:The the NEC is a joke compared to Europe... 125 mph max and too many curves. The only positive about WW2 is when they rebuilt Europe they put the trains in and it is very efficient now.
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European trains run in snow just finetrublue said:
Portland light rail does not work when you need it most - during temperature extremes - heat waves or freezing type temps.MikeDamone said:
As much as euros are fags, the rail system works. I took trains all over. Cheap. Easy. Fast. And they go to small towns.Goduckies said:If they were smart about this, the left that is they wouldn't be pushing EV's, they would be pushing rail like Europe has...it is pretty slick, the trains go everywhere, but they still have cars as well, but much less since the trains are so efficient. Problem is cost, but they were just willing to spend 2 trillion on crap... well if they reallocated those funds to that type of project it would accomplish their goals and be useful... you still need airports because nobody is taking a train across county, but it would be very efficient to land at an airport like I did in Zurich and go right up in the mountains on the trains....
Now having said that I don't think the cost is even close to worth it as it would cost trillions, but if that is their goal, that's where they should start and it would work... the pocketbook would suck for a few years though.
For the US to build something like this government would have to get the fuck out of the way. The California bullet train is a poster child for shitty government projects. They pay 10x more for it and it sucks if it ever even gets done. Last time I heard Portland light rail now costs about 200 million/mile to build.
