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  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,619 Standard Supporter
    Some facts that appear to be a combination of hate speech and disinformation. Obviously shouldn't be taught in public school.

    The phucking virtue signaling is just off the charts. The German environmental bureaucracy is trying to shut down the largest lithium refinery in Germany. Dirty lithium needs to be processed in Russia and East Asia or Africa and then assembled into lithium batteries by the chicoms. A feel good video at the end showing the super clean cobalt mining operation by those environmental chicoms.

    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/06/is-it-immoral-to-drive-an-electric-vehicle.php

    IS IT IMMORAL TO DRIVE AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE?
    Of all the crazy policies we see implemented around us, from decriminalizing theft to teaching children to change their “gender,” perhaps the craziest is government’s determination to force us to drive electric vehicles. EVs like the Tesla are perfectly fine cars, or would be if they weren’t subsidized or mandated. But they are terrible for the environment, and the conditions under which their materials are mined raise serious ethical questions.

    Ronald Stein makes excellent points in his column titled “Is it ethical to purchase a lithium battery powered EV?”

    The lower image is just one lithium supply mine where entire mountains are eliminated. Each mine usually consists of thirty-five to forty humongous 797 Caterpillar haul trucks along with hundreds of other large equipment. Each 797 uses around half a million gallons of diesel a year. So, with an inventory of just thirty-five the haul trucks alone are using 17.5 million gallons of fuel a year for just one lithium site.
    ***
    Today, a typical EV battery weighs one thousand pounds. It contains twenty-five pounds of lithium, sixty pounds of nickel, 44 pounds of manganese, 30 pounds cobalt, 200 pounds of copper, and 400 pounds of aluminum, steel, and plastic. Inside are over 6,000 individual lithium-ion cells.

    It should concern you that all those toxic components come from mining. For instance, to manufacture each EV auto battery, you must process 25,000 pounds of brine for the lithium, 30,000 pounds of ore for the cobalt, 5,000 pounds of ore for the nickel, and 25,000 pounds of ore for copper. All told, you dig up 500,000 pounds of the earth’s crust for just one battery.


    Fossil fuels are vastly cleaner, in part because they are so efficient. And electric vehicles, once the mining and attendant environmental degradation are complete, run overwhelmingly on fossil fuels and nuclear power:

    We should all know that an electric vehicle battery does not “make” electricity – it only stores electricity produced elsewhere, primarily by coal, uranium, natural gas-powered plants, and occasionally by intermittent breezes and sunshine. So, to say an EV is a zero-emission vehicle is not at all valid as 80 percent of the electricity generated to charge the batteries is from coal, natural gas, and nuclear.

    Since twenty percent of the electricity generated in the U.S is from coal-fired plants, it follows that twenty percent of the EVs on the road are coal-powered.

    Since forty percent of the electricity generated in the U.S is from natural gas, it follows that forty percent of the EVs on the road are natural gas-powered.

    Since twenty percent of the electricity generated in the U.S is from nuclear, it follows that twenty percent of the EVs on the road are nuclear-powered.

    The extraordinary amounts of mining needed to produce electric vehicles are not only environmentally disastrous, they also carry large human costs. The cobalt that is needed for every electric vehicle comes mostly from the Congo and is produced largely by child labor.

    And, of course, to the extent that a tiny percentage of the electricity stored in EV batteries comes from solar panels, they are mostly produce by slave labor in China. And, for what it’s worth, Chinese solar panels are produced with coal-fired power plants.

    “Green” energy is a catastrophically bad idea. I think many people understand that wind and solar power and electric vehicles are economically ruinous, but when we also take into account environmental degradation and child and slave labor, one can seriously question whether it is immoral to buy an electric car.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBf58FjxJmk&t=65s
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,171 Founders Club
    It appears to me all the gay people recognize the red-headed white chick as hot.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,619 Standard Supporter
    Mello can down vote that thought. Middle dude in the back seems more his style.
    RoadTrip said:

    It appears to me all the gay people recognize the red-headed white chick as hot.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    Sources said:

    Gals, you need to see the bigger picture

    We are 800K below where we were in 2020. The recovery BS is just that.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,619 Standard Supporter
    As we said, the US and state governments are holding up the permit process and combined with new restrictions on flare gas that is adding to the delay in development. They don't want new drilling, no new pipelines and no new gasoline refineries. They want the mythical cheap green electric unicorn car. Not a voting issue however for 81 million Americans.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,619 Standard Supporter
    Well, at least Britney Griner managed to stay out of the Ukraine.

    https://ace.mu.nu/

    Those worries about the war in Ukraine spiraling out of control just got more worrisome:

    International fury as Russian separatists sentence two Brits Shaun Pinner, 48, and Aiden Aslin, 28, to death by firing squad after they joined the Ukrainian army and were captured at siege of Mariupol
    Brits Shaun Pinner, 48, and Aiden Aslin, 28, were captured in Ukraine in April during the siege of Mariupol

    The so-called supreme court of the Donetsk People's Republic (DPR) issued the death sentences on Thursday

    Moroccan national Saaudun Brahim has also been sentenced, reports said. Video showed the trio in a cage

    The trio were accused of being 'mercenaries' after fighting for Ukraine's armed forces in the battle for the city

    Russian media reported that they would appeal. The court is not internationally recognised, the BBC reported

    UK Foreign Secretary Liz Truss condemned the death sentences as a 'sham judgment with absolutely no legitimacy'. No10 said it was 'deeply concerned'
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    edited June 2022

    Some facts that appear to be a combination of hate speech and disinformation. Obviously shouldn't be taught in public school.

    The phucking virtue signaling is just off the charts. The German environmental bureaucracy is trying to shut down the largest lithium refinery in Germany. Dirty lithium needs to be processed in Russia and East Asia or Africa and then assembled into lithium batteries by the chicoms. A feel good video at the end showing the super clean cobalt mining operation by those environmental chicoms.

    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/06/is-it-immoral-to-drive-an-electric-vehicle.php

    IS IT IMMORAL TO DRIVE AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE?
    Of all the crazy policies we see implemented around us, from decriminalizing theft to teaching children to change their “gender,” perhaps the craziest is government’s determination to force us to drive electric vehicles. EVs like the Tesla are perfectly fine cars, or would be if they weren’t subsidized or mandated. But they are terrible for the environment, and the conditions under which their materials are mined raise serious ethical questions.

    Ronald Stein makes excellent points in his column titled “Is it ethical to purchase a lithium battery powered EV?”

    The lower image is just one lithium supply mine where entire mountains are eliminated. Each mine usually consists of thirty-five to forty humongous 797 Caterpillar haul trucks along with hundreds of other large equipment. Each 797 uses around half a million gallons of diesel a year. So, with an inventory of just thirty-five the haul trucks alone are using 17.5 million gallons of fuel a year for just one lithium site.
    ***
    Today, a typical EV battery weighs one thousand pounds. It contains twenty-five pounds of lithium, sixty pounds of nickel, 44 pounds of manganese, 30 pounds cobalt, 200 pounds of copper, and 400 pounds of aluminum, steel, and plastic. Inside are over 6,000 individual lithium-ion cells.

    It should concern you that all those toxic components come from mining. For instance, to manufacture each EV auto battery, you must process 25,000 pounds of brine for the lithium, 30,000 pounds of ore for the cobalt, 5,000 pounds of ore for the nickel, and 25,000 pounds of ore for copper. All told, you dig up 500,000 pounds of the earth’s crust for just one battery.


    Fossil fuels are vastly cleaner, in part because they are so efficient. And electric vehicles, once the mining and attendant environmental degradation are complete, run overwhelmingly on fossil fuels and nuclear power:

    We should all know that an electric vehicle battery does not “make” electricity – it only stores electricity produced elsewhere, primarily by coal, uranium, natural gas-powered plants, and occasionally by intermittent breezes and sunshine. So, to say an EV is a zero-emission vehicle is not at all valid as 80 percent of the electricity generated to charge the batteries is from coal, natural gas, and nuclear.

    Since twenty percent of the electricity generated in the U.S is from coal-fired plants, it follows that twenty percent of the EVs on the road are coal-powered.

    Since forty percent of the electricity generated in the U.S is from natural gas, it follows that forty percent of the EVs on the road are natural gas-powered.

    Since twenty percent of the electricity generated in the U.S is from nuclear, it follows that twenty percent of the EVs on the road are nuclear-powered.

    The extraordinary amounts of mining needed to produce electric vehicles are not only environmentally disastrous, they also carry large human costs. The cobalt that is needed for every electric vehicle comes mostly from the Congo and is produced largely by child labor.

    And, of course, to the extent that a tiny percentage of the electricity stored in EV batteries comes from solar panels, they are mostly produce by slave labor in China. And, for what it’s worth, Chinese solar panels are produced with coal-fired power plants.

    “Green” energy is a catastrophically bad idea. I think many people understand that wind and solar power and electric vehicles are economically ruinous, but when we also take into account environmental degradation and child and slave labor, one can seriously question whether it is immoral to buy an electric car.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBf58FjxJmk&t=65s

    Those stats showing the mining necessary to make one EV battery should be put on a bumper sticker. And then an army should start slapping them on every EV.

    I don’t care if you own one, I just don’t want you to believe you’re a moral superior for doing so.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,619 Standard Supporter
    And I don't want to phucking pay for it or for your damn charger.
    46XiJCAB said:

    Some facts that appear to be a combination of hate speech and disinformation. Obviously shouldn't be taught in public school.

    The phucking virtue signaling is just off the charts. The German environmental bureaucracy is trying to shut down the largest lithium refinery in Germany. Dirty lithium needs to be processed in Russia and East Asia or Africa and then assembled into lithium batteries by the chicoms. A feel good video at the end showing the super clean cobalt mining operation by those environmental chicoms.

    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/06/is-it-immoral-to-drive-an-electric-vehicle.php

    IS IT IMMORAL TO DRIVE AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE?
    Of all the crazy policies we see implemented around us, from decriminalizing theft to teaching children to change their “gender,” perhaps the craziest is government’s determination to force us to drive electric vehicles. EVs like the Tesla are perfectly fine cars, or would be if they weren’t subsidized or mandated. But they are terrible for the environment, and the conditions under which their materials are mined raise serious ethical questions.

    Ronald Stein makes excellent points in his column titled “Is it ethical to purchase a lithium battery powered EV?”

    The lower image is just one lithium supply mine where entire mountains are eliminated. Each mine usually consists of thirty-five to forty humongous 797 Caterpillar haul trucks along with hundreds of other large equipment. Each 797 uses around half a million gallons of diesel a year. So, with an inventory of just thirty-five the haul trucks alone are using 17.5 million gallons of fuel a year for just one lithium site.
    ***
    Today, a typical EV battery weighs one thousand pounds. It contains twenty-five pounds of lithium, sixty pounds of nickel, 44 pounds of manganese, 30 pounds cobalt, 200 pounds of copper, and 400 pounds of aluminum, steel, and plastic. Inside are over 6,000 individual lithium-ion cells.

    It should concern you that all those toxic components come from mining. For instance, to manufacture each EV auto battery, you must process 25,000 pounds of brine for the lithium, 30,000 pounds of ore for the cobalt, 5,000 pounds of ore for the nickel, and 25,000 pounds of ore for copper. All told, you dig up 500,000 pounds of the earth’s crust for just one battery.


    Fossil fuels are vastly cleaner, in part because they are so efficient. And electric vehicles, once the mining and attendant environmental degradation are complete, run overwhelmingly on fossil fuels and nuclear power:

    We should all know that an electric vehicle battery does not “make” electricity – it only stores electricity produced elsewhere, primarily by coal, uranium, natural gas-powered plants, and occasionally by intermittent breezes and sunshine. So, to say an EV is a zero-emission vehicle is not at all valid as 80 percent of the electricity generated to charge the batteries is from coal, natural gas, and nuclear.

    Since twenty percent of the electricity generated in the U.S is from coal-fired plants, it follows that twenty percent of the EVs on the road are coal-powered.

    Since forty percent of the electricity generated in the U.S is from natural gas, it follows that forty percent of the EVs on the road are natural gas-powered.

    Since twenty percent of the electricity generated in the U.S is from nuclear, it follows that twenty percent of the EVs on the road are nuclear-powered.

    The extraordinary amounts of mining needed to produce electric vehicles are not only environmentally disastrous, they also carry large human costs. The cobalt that is needed for every electric vehicle comes mostly from the Congo and is produced largely by child labor.

    And, of course, to the extent that a tiny percentage of the electricity stored in EV batteries comes from solar panels, they are mostly produce by slave labor in China. And, for what it’s worth, Chinese solar panels are produced with coal-fired power plants.

    “Green” energy is a catastrophically bad idea. I think many people understand that wind and solar power and electric vehicles are economically ruinous, but when we also take into account environmental degradation and child and slave labor, one can seriously question whether it is immoral to buy an electric car.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBf58FjxJmk&t=65s

    Those stats showing the mining necessary to make one EV battery should be put on a bumper sticker. And then an army should start slapping them on every EV.

    I don’t care if you own one, I just don’t want you to believe you’re a moral superior for doing so.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,114 Standard Supporter
    46XiJCAB said:

    Some facts that appear to be a combination of hate speech and disinformation. Obviously shouldn't be taught in public school.

    The phucking virtue signaling is just off the charts. The German environmental bureaucracy is trying to shut down the largest lithium refinery in Germany. Dirty lithium needs to be processed in Russia and East Asia or Africa and then assembled into lithium batteries by the chicoms. A feel good video at the end showing the super clean cobalt mining operation by those environmental chicoms.

    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/06/is-it-immoral-to-drive-an-electric-vehicle.php

    IS IT IMMORAL TO DRIVE AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE?
    Of all the crazy policies we see implemented around us, from decriminalizing theft to teaching children to change their “gender,” perhaps the craziest is government’s determination to force us to drive electric vehicles. EVs like the Tesla are perfectly fine cars, or would be if they weren’t subsidized or mandated. But they are terrible for the environment, and the conditions under which their materials are mined raise serious ethical questions.

    Ronald Stein makes excellent points in his column titled “Is it ethical to purchase a lithium battery powered EV?”

    The lower image is just one lithium supply mine where entire mountains are eliminated. Each mine usually consists of thirty-five to forty humongous 797 Caterpillar haul trucks along with hundreds of other large equipment. Each 797 uses around half a million gallons of diesel a year. So, with an inventory of just thirty-five the haul trucks alone are using 17.5 million gallons of fuel a year for just one lithium site.
    ***
    Today, a typical EV battery weighs one thousand pounds. It contains twenty-five pounds of lithium, sixty pounds of nickel, 44 pounds of manganese, 30 pounds cobalt, 200 pounds of copper, and 400 pounds of aluminum, steel, and plastic. Inside are over 6,000 individual lithium-ion cells.

    It should concern you that all those toxic components come from mining. For instance, to manufacture each EV auto battery, you must process 25,000 pounds of brine for the lithium, 30,000 pounds of ore for the cobalt, 5,000 pounds of ore for the nickel, and 25,000 pounds of ore for copper. All told, you dig up 500,000 pounds of the earth’s crust for just one battery.


    Fossil fuels are vastly cleaner, in part because they are so efficient. And electric vehicles, once the mining and attendant environmental degradation are complete, run overwhelmingly on fossil fuels and nuclear power:

    We should all know that an electric vehicle battery does not “make” electricity – it only stores electricity produced elsewhere, primarily by coal, uranium, natural gas-powered plants, and occasionally by intermittent breezes and sunshine. So, to say an EV is a zero-emission vehicle is not at all valid as 80 percent of the electricity generated to charge the batteries is from coal, natural gas, and nuclear.

    Since twenty percent of the electricity generated in the U.S is from coal-fired plants, it follows that twenty percent of the EVs on the road are coal-powered.

    Since forty percent of the electricity generated in the U.S is from natural gas, it follows that forty percent of the EVs on the road are natural gas-powered.

    Since twenty percent of the electricity generated in the U.S is from nuclear, it follows that twenty percent of the EVs on the road are nuclear-powered.

    The extraordinary amounts of mining needed to produce electric vehicles are not only environmentally disastrous, they also carry large human costs. The cobalt that is needed for every electric vehicle comes mostly from the Congo and is produced largely by child labor.

    And, of course, to the extent that a tiny percentage of the electricity stored in EV batteries comes from solar panels, they are mostly produce by slave labor in China. And, for what it’s worth, Chinese solar panels are produced with coal-fired power plants.

    “Green” energy is a catastrophically bad idea. I think many people understand that wind and solar power and electric vehicles are economically ruinous, but when we also take into account environmental degradation and child and slave labor, one can seriously question whether it is immoral to buy an electric car.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBf58FjxJmk&t=65s

    Those stats showing the mining necessary to make one EV battery should be put on a bumper sticker. And then an army should start slapping them on every EV.

    I don’t care if you own one, I just don’t want you to believe you’re a moral superior for doing so.
    Unless you’re wearing a mask while coaching in the NBA Finals and rant about gun control in pregame press conferences. Then, totally moral superior.

  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,114 Standard Supporter
    Maher went full on TDS during last nights episode. He had a couple redpill moments like this but he spent most of the time attacking Kellyann Conway.

  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,619 Standard Supporter
    Who supports another forever war?

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukraine-fears-it-might-lose-western-support-over-war-fatigue

    Ukraine Fears It Might Lose Western Support Over "War Fatigue"

    BY TYLER DURDEN
    SATURDAY, JUN 11, 2022 - 08:30 AM
    Authored by Dave DeCamp via AntiWar.com,

    As the war in Ukraine drags on, Ukrainian officials fear that Kyiv might lose some Western support due to "war fatigue," The Associated Press reported on Friday.

    The US and its allies have committed billions of dollars in weapons, but some Western European leaders have been calling for a negotiated solution to end the fighting, an idea Ukrainian officials have rejected.

    "The fatigue is growing, people want some kind of outcome [that is beneficial] for themselves, and we want [another] outcome for ourselves," Zelensky said.

    The current situation on the battlefield is not looking good for Ukraine. An advisor to Zelensky said Thursday that they are losing between 100 and 200 troops each day as Russia continues to make slow but steady gains in the east.

    Zelensky has made clear that his goal is to drive Russia out of the territory it has captured since February 24, which would require a massive military offensive.

    While there is some sentiment among European leaders for Ukraine to make concessions to Russia to achieve peace, top US and NATO officials are encouraging Ukraine to keep fighting.

    NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said last week that Ukraine shouldn’t drop the goal of driving Ukraine out of all of its territory, including Crimea, which Russia has controlled since 2014. Stoltenberg also said last week that the Western military alliance should be prepared to support Ukraine for the "long haul."

    Observing of that interview, The Washington Post report said that many US officials privately doubt Ukraine could expel Russia from the region and that such goals would "doom Kyiv to an endless war."
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,619 Standard Supporter
    I appreciated being lectured to by actors who have made millions on movies with gun violence and have armed security. Really, I do. I love hypocrisy.


  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,000
    edited June 2022
    Live video of @HHusky…I can’t believe people like this exist. Anyone think this guy would have lived past the age of 20 in any time in history before 1950?

    And no clue who she is but definitely would.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,619 Standard Supporter
    Looks to have the arm strength of BearsLose or Grace Kelly.

    Live video of @HHusky…I can’t believe people like this exist. Anyone think this guy would have lived past the age of 20 in any time in history before 1950?

    And no clue who she is but definitely would.

  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,832 Standard Supporter
    retro abortion candidate.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,114 Standard Supporter


    CDA Police must not have been told the FBI plants were coming to town.

  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,832 Standard Supporter
    Patriot front aren't patriots.
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,171 Founders Club



    CDA Police must not have been told the FBI plants were coming to town.

    I hope this is the story
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,171 Founders Club
    Sledog said:

    Patriot front aren't patriots.

    What is the Patriot Front?
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,114 Standard Supporter
    edited June 2022
    Sledog said:

    Patriot front aren't patriots.

    Agreed - think they have a compound off 95 near the Rez.

  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    Live video of @HHusky…I can’t believe people like this exist. Anyone think this guy would have lived past the age of 20 in any time in history before 1950?

    And no clue who she is but definitely would.

    Men are not built to cross their legs like women, unless they try really hard. She’s winning the debate so he adopts the “I just can’t talk to you because you make no sense” tactic. Leftists do this when they’re getting their dumbass handed to them. HHusky favorite.
  • Cougzz
    Cougzz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 307 Swaye's Wigwam
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,091 Founders Club
    edited June 2022