Down goes Chesa

RaceBannon said:

This forum became one sided because one side disappeared to be from being honest

There used to be plenty of folks here calling me trash

I miss them

WestlinnDuck said:

In the 1980s my brother worked for Chevron at their Richmond refinery in the Bay area after getting his chemical engineer degree. Lived in apartment with his wife in Walnut Creek and then bought a townhouse in Benicia. Loved to catch a cheap flight into SF and visit and go into SF for a great dinner. Nothing like flying down with my girlfriend to SF on a Friday night in early 1982 (pre-Aids) with a flight full of Oregon gays.
SF was easy to walk around, car was safe and it had a great vibe. Now, I can get the same ambiance in Portland and have the same chance of my car getting stolen or broken into.

SFGbob said:

WestlinnDuck said:

In the 1980s my brother worked for Chevron at their Richmond refinery in the Bay area after getting his chemical engineer degree. Lived in apartment with his wife in Walnut Creek and then bought a townhouse in Benicia. Loved to catch a cheap flight into SF and visit and go into SF for a great dinner. Nothing like flying down with my girlfriend to SF on a Friday night in early 1982 (pre-Aids) with a flight full of Oregon gays.
SF was easy to walk around, car was safe and it had a great vibe. Now, I can get the same ambiance in Portland and have the same chance of my car getting stolen or broken into.

TurdBomber said:

Edwin_Bambino said:

TurdBomber said:

Edwin_Bambino said:

DerekJohnson said:

Swaye said:

All the Ultra Maga's in San Fran did this.

All joking aside, I heard a report a couple months ago how Bay Area Chinese and some Japanese and Koreans were getting political and going "MAGA" because they're disgusted by how the state/city are being run. The report focused on the Chinese saying how they usually don't like to get active politically but things have gotten way out of hand.

Anecdotally this is true, Chinese American highschool kid I tutored in the city and all his buddies have turned pretty MAGA.

But it was incredibly disingenuous the way the Boudin campaign ran their recall election. Only 7 percent of San Franciscans are registered republicans, while there was some conservative outside funding this wasn’t some sinister outside take down. Trump wasn’t flying in to appoint the new DA, London Breed would get to pick a new DA.

People are sick of car break ins, sick of open air drug markets, sick of crazy homeless people running around doing whatever they want, sick of burglaries and package thefts. The Asian American community feels like they aren’t being heard.

I spent the last few years living in Polk Gulch, kind of the intersection of Pac Heights, Nob Hill, with spill over from the tenderloin. I felt like I was gaslighted with the reports that crime is down under Boudin based on what I have witnessed, and anecdotal evidence from my friends. The vast majority of shit never even gets reported. I voted to recall, all of my friends did as well, I guess according to Chesa Boudin supporters I’m no longer a Democrat but whatever.

Breed no longer has a scape goat to hide behind so she better get to fixing or her political ambitions might be blown up next.

Are San Franciscans as besieged with white guilt as Seattleites or Portlanders? If so, SF is fucked, regardless.

The Asian American demographic which is maybe more than a third of the city certainly isn’t. They have more voting power than in Seattle or Portland. The white democratic vote is probably 50/50 between those who would essentially be categorized as the Democratic Socialist / Progressive Sawant type liberals and those like myself who would categorize themselves as more moderate democrats at this point.

Boudin only got like 39 percent of the vote when he won, the two moderate candidates who received more than 50 percent of the vote took enough votes from each other that it allowed for Boudin to win with a minority of the votes in a ranked voting system. He decided this than give him a mandate to run with his SJW reformist agenda when really that’s not what the majority of the city was interested in. The recall is the result.

Locally the majority of people really only care about three things at this point, Homelessness, property crime, and building more housing both affordable and otherwise. There was recently a state senate vote for half of the city and the guy who ran his campaign based on those three things crushed the more progressive gay Hispanic candidate from the mission who ran on NIMBYism and anti gentrification. Guy didn’t even win the neighborhood he grew up in.

SF was our perfect 3 or 4 day getaway for decades. Many, many great times there. I really miss it. But it honestly started going downhill, despite all the tech money, when the City gave away the farm to Twitter, IMO. I'd rather have the city dominated by gays, vs. the tech bros. The gays have far better taste.

I have a beautiful view of that refinery out my living room window. Always fun to see them after a big rain torching off the excess gases they've collected during the year. Usually do it at night.

USMChawk said:

Edwin_Bambino said:

WestlinnDuck said:

Exactly. That's why I didn't expect Edwin to explain some pretty basic stuff, like why he would vote for an anti-American anti-free enterprise dementia patient over Trump. Ed likes $6 a gallon gas? Average 30 year mortgage rate just hit 5.2% up from under 3% when the dementia patient got elected. I don't think phucking over working Americans is moderate at all. So, a $300,000 30 year fixed mortgage is $1,265 a month at 3.0% and $1,647 a month at 5.2% or just about $4,600 a year in increased costs for a shitty basic starter home or a small condo. Average home price in Portland is now $550,000. A moderate republican would say build more houses with less regulations. A moderate democrat votes for dems who want no new single residential developments.

SFGbob said:

Edwin_Bambino said:

RoadTrip said:

Edwin_Bambino said:

TurdBomber said:

Edwin_Bambino said:

DerekJohnson said:

Swaye said:

All the Ultra Maga's in San Fran did this.

All joking aside, I heard a report a couple months ago how Bay Area Chinese and some Japanese and Koreans were getting political and going "MAGA" because they're disgusted by how the state/city are being run. The report focused on the Chinese saying how they usually don't like to get active politically but things have gotten way out of hand.

Anecdotally this is true, Chinese American highschool kid I tutored in the city and all his buddies have turned pretty MAGA.

But it was incredibly disingenuous the way the Boudin campaign ran their recall election. Only 7 percent of San Franciscans are registered republicans, while there was some conservative outside funding this wasn’t some sinister outside take down. Trump wasn’t flying in to appoint the new DA, London Breed would get to pick a new DA.

People are sick of car break ins, sick of open air drug markets, sick of crazy homeless people running around doing whatever they want, sick of burglaries and package thefts. The Asian American community feels like they aren’t being heard.

I spent the last few years living in Polk Gulch, kind of the intersection of Pac Heights, Nob Hill, with spill over from the tenderloin. I felt like I was gaslighted with the reports that crime is down under Boudin based on what I have witnessed, and anecdotal evidence from my friends. The vast majority of shit never even gets reported. I voted to recall, all of my friends did as well, I guess according to Chesa Boudin supporters I’m no longer a Democrat but whatever.

Breed no longer has a scape goat to hide behind so she better get to fixing or her political ambitions might be blown up next.

Are San Franciscans as besieged with white guilt as Seattleites or Portlanders? If so, SF is fucked, regardless.

The Asian American demographic which is maybe more than a third of the city certainly isn’t. They have more voting power than in Seattle or Portland. The white democratic vote is probably 50/50 between those who would essentially be categorized as the Democratic Socialist / Progressive Sawant type liberals and those like myself who would categorize themselves as more moderate democrats at this point.

Boudin only got like 39 percent of the vote when he won, the two moderate candidates who received more than 50 percent of the vote took enough votes from each other that it allowed for Boudin to win with a minority of the votes in a ranked voting system. He decided this than give him a mandate to run with his SJW reformist agenda when really that’s not what the majority of the city was interested in. The recall is the result.

Locally the majority of people really only care about three things at this point, Homelessness, property crime, and building more housing both affordable and otherwise. There was recently a state senate vote for half of the city and the guy who ran his campaign based on those three things crushed the more progressive gay Hispanic candidate from the mission who ran on NIMBYism and anti gentrification. Guy didn’t even win the neighborhood he grew up in.

Thank you for wanting an honest engagement but there is no such thing as a moderate democrat these days. That kind of opinion can get you put into solitary confinement today.

Eh that may or may not be true. I think a lot of people would say the same for republicans, maybe not on this forum but you get my point. I’m just providing my perspective as someone who has lived in SF for a decade and is a democrat who supported the recall, instead of the hot takes you see on MSNBC or Fox News.

There are Republicans that support abortion rights. I know because I am one. There are no Rats who oppose abortion. The party doesn't even allow anyone with that position to speak at the party convention. What qualifies you as a moderate?

I’m at work, not really trying to debate the perceived differences between a moderate and liberal democrat. If you want to call me a rat commie George Soros loving dem because I voted for Biden over trump feel free.

Once again, I was only really coming through to provide some perspective, whether you agree or disagree is entirely up to you. This forum is very one sided politically so thought you all might find what I have to say as a resident of SF with a different political perspective interesting. Cheers.

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