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Russian Generals dropping like flies

46XiJCAB
46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
edited April 2022 in Tug Tavern
Reports are that up to 7 Russian generals have been KIA thus far. Seems that the Russian Army decided to rely upon cell towers in Ukraine for their communications. The Ukrainian military has been intercepting their communications and then pinpointing their locations, then dropping missiles on their heads.

Also reports of Russian soldiers shooting themselves to get sent home. Sabotaging their own equipment and even, reportedly, shooting down one of their own aircraft on purpose. Looks like 200K Russians having a time with 600K Ukrainian soldiers.

Home team battling their ranked opponent.
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  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,556 Standard Supporter
    46XiJCAB said:

    Reports are that up to 7 Russian generals have been KIA thus far. Seems that the Russian Army decided to rely upon cell towers in Ukraine for their communications. The Ukrainian military has been intercepting their communications and then pinpointing their locations, then dropping missiles on their heads.

    Also reports of Russian soldiers shooting themselves to get sent home. Sabotaging their own equipment and even, reportedly, shooting down one of their own aircraft on purpose. Looks like 200K Russians having a time with 600K Ukrainian soldiers.

    Home team battling their ranked opponent.

    "Over rated, Over rated"
  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,346 Founders Club

    Gotta say, I'm surprised by how inept the Russians have been. Would like @Swaye to weigh in.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,338 Founders Club
    I've got to think Taiwan is off the table now for the self-conscious CCP
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,338 Founders Club
    Kaepsknee said:

    No one outside the Ukraine really knows who is winning and who is losing in Ukraine.

    Exactly
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    edited April 2022


    Gotta say, I'm surprised by how inept the Russians have been. Would like @Swaye to weigh in.

    I can't say honestly. I can't trust any reporting of anything over there so it is hard to draw concrete inferences about exactly what, militarily, is the problem. My best guess is a combination of conscripted forces on the Russian side who are not fully willing participants, invading at the wrong time of year keeping the Russians on roads, hugely incompetent staffing throughout Russian logistics and fierce determination (and Green Beret insurgency training they are using effectively) on the part of the Ukranians.

    The whole thing has shocked me. I studied the Russian military closely (air power especially) for years and have been shocked at what a paper tiger they actually are. They just are not a functional or tough military, like 99% of military analysts assumed. It's shocking, and also has to be incredibly humbling for Putin. All he has really accomplished in ruining his economy and disrupting his home base completely is the worldwide knowledge now that the Russian military is a joke. Without nukes the French would wipe the floor with them in a week. Think about that....
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    edited April 2022

    This is what happens when you ain’t played nobody and are over ranked. Russia is like Oklahoma, facing an underfunded K-State that they’re too soft for. But the longer the game goes the better their odds, that’s how Russohoma gets Ws. Their proudest pre-WWII moment was defeating Napoleon: by retreating back and burning Moscow to the ground. Haha take that you frogs, good luck finding food so deep in our self destroyed country.

    In the last 24 hours Russia claims two Ukrainian helicopters flew a sortie into Russian territory. To a border town used as a staging area, and hit the fuel depot there with missiles. Ukraine denies. Video shows helicopters. If Russia did it as a false flag attack I’d have expected some civilian deaths.

    Russian troops pulled back from Chernobyl. Six dozen of them with radiation sickness, one dead from it. They were surprised at how little resistance they had met there back in February. The Ukrainians didn’t think anyone was stupid enough to march an army, complete with tanks and digging trenches, through soil that’s holding 35 years of undisturbed radiation.

    As the Ukes retake areas around Kyiv they’re finding dead civilians everywhere. Some of them with hands tied behind their back. Between the 5,000+ at Mariupol and the destruction of Kharkiv and Chernigiv the numbers of dead Civilians are going to be staggering. The town of Irpin, once one of the nicer suburbs of Kyiv is just rubble and stray dogs that have been fattened on Russian meat. They mostly only exfil the officers corps(es) back to Russia. I went to a nightclub in Irpin once when I was 16, took some ecstasy, got head from a slut ~10 years older than me, went back on the dance floor and realized that semen shows up under a black light pretty vividly - it’s sad to see such innocent memories stained. Telegram has some brutal war imagery.

    When they empty the pockets of the dead Russian soldiers there’s almost always jewelry, just piles of rings. One abandoned APC was stuffed with loot - but really shitty loot. Toys, new in the box frying pans, welding equipment, and my favorite; a bag of transitional post-USSR currency (Karbovanets aka Coupons) that Ukraine hasn’t used since 1998, in bills that were worth pennies then have been literally worthless since 1998. A common refrain in the videos are Ukrainian soldiers asking just how poor are these Russians. Some of the POWs are shocked at how much better Ukrainian peasants have it, let alone the middle class. Those guys would be fighting their own government if they knew how Moscow and Piter are compared to the rest of Russia.

    I have been wondering just how bad the war crimes actually are there. Your description aligns with what my best guess would have been. Massive frustration at their own shrimp dicks has them acting out badly. When militaries are humiliated is usually when atrocities occur (Japanese exlcuded). If there is evidence of civilian executions it will be interesting to see how the world will handle it. The problem is, we aren't going to go fight Russia to be able to get to any of the leaders who will be charged at the Hague. All responsible will live out their days in some shit village in Russia.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,060 Founders Club
    https://youtu.be/_3fZQmMZ4kY

    This guy has some fantastic analysis of why Ukraine is giving Russia such a hard time.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,034
    edited April 2022

    https://youtu.be/_3fZQmMZ4kY

    This guy has some fantastic analysis of why Ukraine is giving Russia such a hard time.

    The Throbber had Russia in his Final Four but right now St. Peters is ahead of them at halftime in a second round game.

    BTW, fuck Coach K.


  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,801 Founders Club
    Seems like the EU and NATO and the US mid term election team flapped their gums for 5 weeks while brave Uranians are fighting and dying and possibly winning, A tie at least seems certain

    There was never a good option for no fly zones, fighter jets, or a nuclear exchange.

    We talked about the home field advantage at the start of the season. And how the NIL deals for the Red Machine players weren't enough
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    Swaye said:

    No person in history uses more words to say less than her.
    Armstrong & Getty were playing clips of a woman on Tik Tok that does an impersonation of Harris that's so spot on you'd think it was her.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    The more that Harris is in the spotlight the worse for Dems
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    I thought this was going to be about a new Harlem Globetrotters opponent.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,556 Standard Supporter
    46XiJCAB said:

    Swaye said:

    No person in history uses more words to say less than her.
    Armstrong & Getty were playing clips of a woman on Tik Tok that does an impersonation of Harris that's so spot on you'd think it was her.
    https://www.tiktok.com/@therachelmaria/video/7058450598785748270?lang=en
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662

    I thought this was going to be about a new Harlem Globetrotters opponent.

    Nice lol

    Nice work damone
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662

    Kaepsknee said:

    No one outside the Ukraine really knows who is winning and who is losing in Ukraine.

    Exactly
    Still think we need to sponsor Ukrainian women in the ages of 18-26

    I have an extra bedroom
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,338 Founders Club
    Swaye said:

    No person in history uses more words to say less than her.
    She does less with more?
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,338 Founders Club

    Kaepsknee said:

    No one outside the Ukraine really knows who is winning and who is losing in Ukraine.

    I’ve been able to reach my grandmother a few times on her cell, she has an overly rosy view since she gets her news from Ukrainian TV and radio. She’s also in Kyiv, fairly close (~30 KM) to the Russian high tide mark they’ve been pushed back from. She says after the first week they thought the Russians might take the capital, but now the Russians have had to “withdraw” because they were getting slaughtered. They did a shit ton of damage to the outlying towns, though. Just destroyed everything out of spite.
    I’m

    A friend, one of the few people there I trust/groomsmen level type friend, has a more realistic outlook based on what he’s doing. He also says Kyiv is safe for now, but the Russians aren’t going to stop trying to cleave the country. They’ve moved from taking land to terrorizing the people into submission. Donbas and particularly Luhansk - where it’s been going on for eight years- is an apocalyptic wasteland of fighting between elite units from both, bolstered by what they call “cannon meat”. He says both sides have shown restraint compared to what they’re capable of, because they don’t think it’s ending soon. It’s still much more bloody than one would think if they only watched BeeBeeSee or our other Western bitch pederast media.
    what's her view of Zelensky?
  • RatherBeBrewing
    RatherBeBrewing Member Posts: 1,557
    War crime update: the scale is unfathomable. Russians never expected to retreat from the occupied areas. Western media holds back the worst of it, and the brutality is everything that was expected and then some. Makes the Yugoslav wars seem like a miniature version with restraint. In the last 24 hours 400+ civilian corpses found just between two liberated suburban towns by Kyiv with a combined prewar population of ~60,000.

    Mass graves, people with their hands tied and shot, people hiding in basements blown up with hand grenades or set in fire, children dead from bleeding caused by gang rapes, thousands of women subjected to sexual violence, stomach turning torture, people killed just for fun, civil leaders and officials slaughtered with their families. Old people saying that the German blitzkrieg and occupation was nowhere near this horrific.

    Human Rights Watch is fairly mild, but I figure for the gentle American consumer this is more appropriate versus other sources: https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/04/03/ukraine-apparent-war-crimes-russia-controlled-areas
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,556 Standard Supporter

    War crime update: the scale is unfathomable. Russians never expected to retreat from the occupied areas. Western media holds back the worst of it, and the brutality is everything that was expected and then some. Makes the Yugoslav wars seem like a miniature version with restraint. In the last 24 hours 400+ civilian corpses found just between two liberated suburban towns by Kyiv with a combined prewar population of ~60,000.

    Mass graves, people with their hands tied and shot, people hiding in basements blown up with hand grenades or set in fire, children dead from bleeding caused by gang rapes, thousands of women subjected to sexual violence, stomach turning torture, people killed just for fun, civil leaders and officials slaughtered with their families. Old people saying that the German blitzkrieg and occupation was nowhere near this horrific.

    Human Rights Watch is fairly mild, but I figure for the gentle American consumer this is more appropriate versus other sources: https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/04/03/ukraine-apparent-war-crimes-russia-controlled-areas

    It's almost like the American founders with the 2A had a plan other than being slaughtered and raped.
  • TXDawg
    TXDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 851 Founders Club

    46XiJCAB said:

    Reports are that up to 7 Russian generals have been KIA thus far. Seems that the Russian Army decided to rely upon cell towers in Ukraine for their communications. The Ukrainian military has been intercepting their communications and then pinpointing their locations, then dropping missiles on their heads.

    Also reports of Russian soldiers shooting themselves to get sent home. Sabotaging their own equipment and even, reportedly, shooting down one of their own aircraft on purpose. Looks like 200K Russians having a time with 600K Ukrainian soldiers.

    Home team battling their ranked opponent.

    "Over rated, Over rated"
    But Doogman said the Russian military was 5*. I’m so surprised that when they got on the field, they couldn’t perform.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,897

    War crime update: the scale is unfathomable. Russians never expected to retreat from the occupied areas. Western media holds back the worst of it, and the brutality is everything that was expected and then some. Makes the Yugoslav wars seem like a miniature version with restraint. In the last 24 hours 400+ civilian corpses found just between two liberated suburban towns by Kyiv with a combined prewar population of ~60,000.

    Mass graves, people with their hands tied and shot, people hiding in basements blown up with hand grenades or set in fire, children dead from bleeding caused by gang rapes, thousands of women subjected to sexual violence, stomach turning torture, people killed just for fun, civil leaders and officials slaughtered with their families. Old people saying that the German blitzkrieg and occupation was nowhere near this horrific.

    Human Rights Watch is fairly mild, but I figure for the gentle American consumer this is more appropriate versus other sources: https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/04/03/ukraine-apparent-war-crimes-russia-controlled-areas

    It's almost like the American founders with the 2A had a plan other than being slaughtered and raped.
    People forget what a single-minded piece of shit you are, Gasbag.

    They forget.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,556 Standard Supporter
    TXDawg said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Reports are that up to 7 Russian generals have been KIA thus far. Seems that the Russian Army decided to rely upon cell towers in Ukraine for their communications. The Ukrainian military has been intercepting their communications and then pinpointing their locations, then dropping missiles on their heads.

    Also reports of Russian soldiers shooting themselves to get sent home. Sabotaging their own equipment and even, reportedly, shooting down one of their own aircraft on purpose. Looks like 200K Russians having a time with 600K Ukrainian soldiers.

    Home team battling their ranked opponent.

    "Over rated, Over rated"
    But Doogman said the Russian military was 5*. I’m so surprised that when they got on the field, they couldn’t perform.
    In hindsight, the overall corruption of the Russian culture contaminated their military. Like the Olympics in Sochi, a huge amount of the construction funding was stolen and then the subsequent actual construction was world class sh*tty. The quality of the American officer class of the US military was a result of a strict meritocracy rather than payoffs. That's being undermined as fast as the dems can get there. The Russians obviously have serious morale problems, logistic problems and leadership problems as a result of corruption and promoted incompetents. And like the US in Iraq and Afghanistan they have had a complete failure in their intelligence agencies. Plus who wants to tell a murderous dictator like Putin the hard truth?
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    Dazzler is incapable of telling the truth on an anonymous message board, he’d be even a bigger pussy in front of Putin.