Released texts from yesterday's article in The Athletic on final days of Jimmy Lake at UW


Ahead of a scheduled Thursday meeting that week between Cohen and Lake, Cauce and Cohen each expressed hope the coach would show some willingness to alter his approach — and communicated in a way that left open the possibility he might return to coach the team following his suspension.
“Hoping this can be an opportunity for growth,” Cauce wrote in a text message. “If not… well….”
Cohen replied: “I’m so hoping he can see he needs to make changes. This will be a very telling moment.”
In reading between the lines, Cauce knew all along Lake was terrible at his job and had to go. And once again, Cohen sounds like an overweening mom praying for her wayward son to be contrite and not get fired.
Comments
-
@FireCohen is already taken Stalin. Find your own shtick
-
Petersen loved Jimmy
Cohen loved Jimmy
Cauce had doubts
Right
-
RaceBannon said:
Petersen loved Jimmy
Cohen loved Jimmy
Cauce had doubts
Right
You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time -
How do you figure on Cauce?DerekJohnson said:In reading between the lines, Cauce knew all along Lake was terrible at his job and had to go. And once again, Cohen sounds like an overweening mom praying for her wayward son to be contrite and not get fired.
Does she have other comments that support this interpretation? -
Like I said I'm reading between the lines. It's possible I'm wrong, but more likely I'm rightwhatshouldicareabout said:
How do you figure on Cauce?DerekJohnson said:In reading between the lines, Cauce knew all along Lake was terrible at his job and had to go. And once again, Cohen sounds like an overweening mom praying for her wayward son to be contrite and not get fired.
Does she have other comments that support this interpretation. -
We only point out when you're wrong.DerekJohnson said:
Like I said I'm reading between the lines. It's possible I'm wrong, but more likely I'm rightwhatshouldicareabout said:
How do you figure on Cauce?DerekJohnson said:In reading between the lines, Cauce knew all along Lake was terrible at his job and had to go. And once again, Cohen sounds like an overweening mom praying for her wayward son to be contrite and not get fired.
Does she have other comments that support this interpretation.
I appreciate your humility BTW. -
All indications in the article lead to the idea that Jimmy would have retained his job if he had any self awareness and “played the game”DerekJohnson said:
Like I said I'm reading between the lines. It's possible I'm wrong, but more likely I'm rightwhatshouldicareabout said:
How do you figure on Cauce?DerekJohnson said:In reading between the lines, Cauce knew all along Lake was terrible at his job and had to go. And once again, Cohen sounds like an overweening mom praying for her wayward son to be contrite and not get fired.
Does she have other comments that support this interpretation.
If you’re taking anything away from Cauce it’s that she’s willing to stay out of the picture unless it becomes clear that there is (or will be) too much damage to the UW name and reputation
As I’ve said elsewhere, she’s probably as good as it gets for an AD at UW in that she’s supportive and will allow you as the AD to do your job …
As for Jen, just another example of this job being too big for her skills -
Fool me twice, won’t get fooled again.DerekJohnson said:RaceBannon said:Petersen loved Jimmy
Cohen loved Jimmy
Cauce had doubts
Right
You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time -
The fact that Cohen is still AD leads me to believe otherwiseDerekJohnson said:
Like I said I'm reading between the lines. It's possible I'm wrong, but more likely I'm rightwhatshouldicareabout said:
How do you figure on Cauce?DerekJohnson said:In reading between the lines, Cauce knew all along Lake was terrible at his job and had to go. And once again, Cohen sounds like an overweening mom praying for her wayward son to be contrite and not get fired.
Does she have other comments that support this interpretation. -
Holy, shit Tequilla. The planets and stars have aligned at the exact same time.Tequilla said:
All indications in the article lead to the idea that Jimmy would have retained his job if he had any self awareness and “played the game”DerekJohnson said:
Like I said I'm reading between the lines. It's possible I'm wrong, but more likely I'm rightwhatshouldicareabout said:
How do you figure on Cauce?DerekJohnson said:In reading between the lines, Cauce knew all along Lake was terrible at his job and had to go. And once again, Cohen sounds like an overweening mom praying for her wayward son to be contrite and not get fired.
Does she have other comments that support this interpretation.
If you’re taking anything away from Cauce it’s that she’s willing to stay out of the picture unless it becomes clear that there is (or will be) too much damage to the UW name and reputation
As I’ve said elsewhere, she’s probably as good as it gets for an AD at UW in that she’s supportive and will allow you as the AD to do your job …
As for Jen, just another example of this job being too big for her skills
You made a rational point using the proper number of words.
TLDR. I agree. -
For me, I'd say a pretty standard response. I had several bosses (ADs) tell me a variation of this, over the years..."You can run it the way you want, I will stay out of the way, and am here to help you. If you cheat I will fire you, and if something gets to my desk, I will take action on it, and you might not like the result"...
The school and image take a hit when something like this goes down, as well as the egos of those up the food chain who signed off on the hire(s). A lot of us thought Jen was a wizard for CP / Hop / Yimmy early on in each hire. She is either really good at her job and was just unlucky twice, horrible at it, or somewhere in between...I don't fault her for CP, speaking as a currently burned-out coach... -
I like the AD that sits you down and says, " you better win games and put us in position to win the conference every year, with a shot now and then at a NY6. You got three years to get there and i don't care how you do it, just win, and if anything comes across my desk that makes me look bad, you're gone."
-
So you’re saying she didn’t just want him to carry on, her wayward son?DerekJohnson said:
And once again, Cohen sounds like an overweening mom praying for her wayward son to be contrite and not get fired.
But she knew there’d be peace when he was gone🤷♂️ -
I think the texts are public record so they can't say too much. They could mess with their phones to hide evidence like Durkan and Best did but it's not worth the reputational stain. If Cohen retires soon, do we trust Cauce to make the right AD hire?
At least former Husky Bruce Harrell is now Mayor after the massive disappointments of Durkan and Murray. -
Why in Gods name are you ever using a work phone if a public employee
-
i dont think public employees are the sharpest knives in the drawer.HuskyJW said:Why in Gods name are you ever using a work phone if a public employee
-
Assholerodmansrage said:
i dont think public employees are the sharpest knives in the drawer.HuskyJW said:Why in Gods name are you ever using a work phone if a public employee
-
-
I’ll believe we are good when I see it, but the buy in seems to be there. Good for DeBoer and the coaches.
-
It’s just a new, overarching can do attitude with these emaciated Dawgs.RoadDawg55 said:I’ll believe we are good when I see it, but the buy in seems to be there. Good for DeBoer and the coaches.
-
Meh. This is just classic confirmation bias. It's telling because we want it to be telling. But these exact comments are made by players every single time there's a coaching change. Sometimes they're telling, sometimes they're not. Time will tell. Either way it will be chinteresting.RaceBannon said:
-
Are you ready to be hurt again?dnc said:
Meh. This is just classic confirmation bias. It's telling because we want it to be telling. But these exact comments are made by players every single time there's a coaching change. Sometimes they're telling, sometimes they're not. Time will tell. Either way it will be chinteresting.RaceBannon said: -
DeBoer might be failing miserably in recruiting, but there's a strong sense that he is a decent person.RoadDawg55 said:I’ll believe we are good when I see it, but the buy in seems to be there. Good for DeBoer and the coaches.