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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188

    Goduckies said:

    SFGbob said:

    Sounds like someone is trying to come up with an excuse to justify the fact that they are a shitty tipper. Talk to anyone who has waited tables.

    A new study finds many waiters and waitresses feel that black Americans generally tip less than restaurant diners who are white. The study, by a researcher at Cornell University's School of Hotel Administration, found that blacks tip on average 20 percent less than whites. In addition, restaurant workers of all races dislike waiting on black people because they assume the tips will be less no matter how good the service. NPR's Juan Williams reports.

    Worst tippers are Indians followed by blacks and then Europeans.... then the tech bros from SF... Latinos are somewhat decent.
    Thanks Bro!
    I'm hearing that the cubanos no longer count because too many in Florida voted R. Sorry broseph
    White adjacent.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,676
    SFGbob said:

    Goduckies said:

    SFGbob said:

    Sounds like someone is trying to come up with an excuse to justify the fact that they are a shitty tipper. Talk to anyone who has waited tables.

    A new study finds many waiters and waitresses feel that black Americans generally tip less than restaurant diners who are white. The study, by a researcher at Cornell University's School of Hotel Administration, found that blacks tip on average 20 percent less than whites. In addition, restaurant workers of all races dislike waiting on black people because they assume the tips will be less no matter how good the service. NPR's Juan Williams reports.

    Worst tippers are Indians followed by blacks and then Europeans.... then the tech bros from SF... Latinos are somewhat decent.
    Thanks Bro!
    I'm hearing that the cubanos no longer count because too many in Florida voted R. Sorry broseph
    White adjacent.
    Facist
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited March 2022

    RoadTrip said:

    SFGbob said:

    Kaepsknee said:

    I’m a 20% max guy. And it goes down from there if service sucks. But it never goes down past 10% though.

    Here's something I've always wondered about tipping. If you order something to go do you still tip and how much?
    I suppose it depends on what kind of establishment the place is. If it's a large restaurant, the cooks get paid differently than the wait staff so no unless you want to give a few bucks to the hostess or whoever packed it up for you.
    I worked in nice joints all the way through college, and I tipped out the bartenders, hostesses, bussers and the line from my wad. When 5 or 6 waiters are all doing the same, each guy on the line walks home with about an extra $20-$25 in his pocket every shift he works. Bussers get even more tips because they earn less per hour than the guys on the line, and waiters were paid sub-minimum wage while declaring no less than 8% tips on their sales.

    If you're good, you're averaging 18% and clearing 13% on a typical night shift, so the 5% non-taxable bonus is a gift for busting your ass.

    My experiences were great, the system worked, Seattle won international awards for having the best service industries in the world and everybody was happy.

    Then came the lazy, entitled, untalented socialists fomenting their revolution from shitty, overpriced, fair-trade coffee shops where the tip jar became a fixture like the penny trays at 7-11. Tipping shifted from a reward to a tax and it's been downhill ever since. Service in Seattle almost uniformly sucks compared to 20 years ago.

    Welcome to the totalitarian world of mandatory everything.

    Fuck Off, Socialists. You ruin every fucking thing you touch.
    Non taxable?
    Mandatory reporting of 8% while going home with 13% or so, if you're any good.
    So it's all taxable. You're just breaking the law. Got it.
    Never gone over the speed limit?

    Fuck Off and Get a Life.
    One is a felony. One is a ticket. Pay what you owe asshole. Tax evaders are fuckheads.
    I prefer to call it aggressive tax mitigation strategies.

    There are many legal aggressive tax mitigation s

    The small business service industry is all about tax evasion. One of the top lunch places in downtown Portland (white owner) was the Red Coach. Place didn't take plastic, only cash. And the cash register wasn't turned on. Just the waitresses order pad yellow receipt was kept. You think the Koreans are reporting their cash receipts from their dry cleaning business? Then the entire hispanic landscaping business is run on cash.

    RoadTrip said:

    SFGbob said:

    Kaepsknee said:

    I’m a 20% max guy. And it goes down from there if service sucks. But it never goes down past 10% though.

    Here's something I've always wondered about tipping. If you order something to go do you still tip and how much?
    I suppose it depends on what kind of establishment the place is. If it's a large restaurant, the cooks get paid differently than the wait staff so no unless you want to give a few bucks to the hostess or whoever packed it up for you.
    I worked in nice joints all the way through college, and I tipped out the bartenders, hostesses, bussers and the line from my wad. When 5 or 6 waiters are all doing the same, each guy on the line walks home with about an extra $20-$25 in his pocket every shift he works. Bussers get even more tips because they earn less per hour than the guys on the line, and waiters were paid sub-minimum wage while declaring no less than 8% tips on their sales.

    If you're good, you're averaging 18% and clearing 13% on a typical night shift, so the 5% non-taxable bonus is a gift for busting your ass.

    My experiences were great, the system worked, Seattle won international awards for having the best service industries in the world and everybody was happy.

    Then came the lazy, entitled, untalented socialists fomenting their revolution from shitty, overpriced, fair-trade coffee shops where the tip jar became a fixture like the penny trays at 7-11. Tipping shifted from a reward to a tax and it's been downhill ever since. Service in Seattle almost uniformly sucks compared to 20 years ago.

    Welcome to the totalitarian world of mandatory everything.

    Fuck Off, Socialists. You ruin every fucking thing you touch.
    Non taxable?
    Mandatory reporting of 8% while going home with 13% or so, if you're any good.
    So it's all taxable. You're just breaking the law. Got it.
    So? I hope they get caught.
    The obvious question this poses is what Taxpayer-Funded program are you benefitting from, Damone?

    Otherwise, what business is it of yours?
    You’re missing my point. I get reamed on taxes. I follow the law while taking everything legal way to avoid taxes and pay the absolute minimum. If I don’t follow the law,, they will fuck me. And they have the power to do so. If someone is evading taxes (vs legally avoiding) then fuck you, and I hope you get caught and get fucked royally. I’ve had my dust ups with various tax authorities. So fuck anyone who cheats on their taxes.

    This is an entirely different argument as to what I think of the tax code, the IRS and government in general. I’m sure you’re smart enough to parse this out.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited March 2022

    RoadTrip said:

    SFGbob said:

    Kaepsknee said:

    I’m a 20% max guy. And it goes down from there if service sucks. But it never goes down past 10% though.

    Here's something I've always wondered about tipping. If you order something to go do you still tip and how much?
    I suppose it depends on what kind of establishment the place is. If it's a large restaurant, the cooks get paid differently than the wait staff so no unless you want to give a few bucks to the hostess or whoever packed it up for you.
    I worked in nice joints all the way through college, and I tipped out the bartenders, hostesses, bussers and the line from my wad. When 5 or 6 waiters are all doing the same, each guy on the line walks home with about an extra $20-$25 in his pocket every shift he works. Bussers get even more tips because they earn less per hour than the guys on the line, and waiters were paid sub-minimum wage while declaring no less than 8% tips on their sales.

    If you're good, you're averaging 18% and clearing 13% on a typical night shift, so the 5% non-taxable bonus is a gift for busting your ass.

    My experiences were great, the system worked, Seattle won international awards for having the best service industries in the world and everybody was happy.

    Then came the lazy, entitled, untalented socialists fomenting their revolution from shitty, overpriced, fair-trade coffee shops where the tip jar became a fixture like the penny trays at 7-11. Tipping shifted from a reward to a tax and it's been downhill ever since. Service in Seattle almost uniformly sucks compared to 20 years ago.

    Welcome to the totalitarian world of mandatory everything.

    Fuck Off, Socialists. You ruin every fucking thing you touch.
    Non taxable?
    Mandatory reporting of 8% while going home with 13% or so, if you're any good.
    So it's all taxable. You're just breaking the law. Got it.
    Never gone over the speed limit?

    Fuck Off and Get a Life.
    One is a felony. One is a ticket. Pay what you owe asshole. Tax evaders are fuckheads.
    I prefer to call it aggressive tax mitigation strategies.

    There are many legal aggressive tax mitigation s

    The small business service industry is all about tax evasion. One of the top lunch places in downtown Portland (white owner) was the Red Coach. Place didn't take plastic, only cash. And the cash register wasn't turned on. Just the waitresses order pad yellow receipt was kept. You think the Koreans are reporting their cash receipts from their dry cleaning business? Then the entire hispanic landscaping business is run on cash.

    RoadTrip said:

    SFGbob said:

    Kaepsknee said:

    I’m a 20% max guy. And it goes down from there if service sucks. But it never goes down past 10% though.

    Here's something I've always wondered about tipping. If you order something to go do you still tip and how much?
    I suppose it depends on what kind of establishment the place is. If it's a large restaurant, the cooks get paid differently than the wait staff so no unless you want to give a few bucks to the hostess or whoever packed it up for you.
    I worked in nice joints all the way through college, and I tipped out the bartenders, hostesses, bussers and the line from my wad. When 5 or 6 waiters are all doing the same, each guy on the line walks home with about an extra $20-$25 in his pocket every shift he works. Bussers get even more tips because they earn less per hour than the guys on the line, and waiters were paid sub-minimum wage while declaring no less than 8% tips on their sales.

    If you're good, you're averaging 18% and clearing 13% on a typical night shift, so the 5% non-taxable bonus is a gift for busting your ass.

    My experiences were great, the system worked, Seattle won international awards for having the best service industries in the world and everybody was happy.

    Then came the lazy, entitled, untalented socialists fomenting their revolution from shitty, overpriced, fair-trade coffee shops where the tip jar became a fixture like the penny trays at 7-11. Tipping shifted from a reward to a tax and it's been downhill ever since. Service in Seattle almost uniformly sucks compared to 20 years ago.

    Welcome to the totalitarian world of mandatory everything.

    Fuck Off, Socialists. You ruin every fucking thing you touch.
    Non taxable?
    Mandatory reporting of 8% while going home with 13% or so, if you're any good.
    So it's all taxable. You're just breaking the law. Got it.
    So? I hope they get caught.
    The obvious question this poses is what Taxpayer-Funded program are you benefitting from, Damone?

    Otherwise, what business is it of yours?
    The aggressive tax mitigation policies are the sale of renewable tax credits and bonus depreciation. They are completely legal. The sort of not legal tax shelters once pushed by the Big Accounting and Law firms were busted up with lots of jail time and penalties.
    Westlinn gets it.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,676

    RoadTrip said:

    SFGbob said:

    Kaepsknee said:

    I’m a 20% max guy. And it goes down from there if service sucks. But it never goes down past 10% though.

    Here's something I've always wondered about tipping. If you order something to go do you still tip and how much?
    I suppose it depends on what kind of establishment the place is. If it's a large restaurant, the cooks get paid differently than the wait staff so no unless you want to give a few bucks to the hostess or whoever packed it up for you.
    I worked in nice joints all the way through college, and I tipped out the bartenders, hostesses, bussers and the line from my wad. When 5 or 6 waiters are all doing the same, each guy on the line walks home with about an extra $20-$25 in his pocket every shift he works. Bussers get even more tips because they earn less per hour than the guys on the line, and waiters were paid sub-minimum wage while declaring no less than 8% tips on their sales.

    If you're good, you're averaging 18% and clearing 13% on a typical night shift, so the 5% non-taxable bonus is a gift for busting your ass.

    My experiences were great, the system worked, Seattle won international awards for having the best service industries in the world and everybody was happy.

    Then came the lazy, entitled, untalented socialists fomenting their revolution from shitty, overpriced, fair-trade coffee shops where the tip jar became a fixture like the penny trays at 7-11. Tipping shifted from a reward to a tax and it's been downhill ever since. Service in Seattle almost uniformly sucks compared to 20 years ago.

    Welcome to the totalitarian world of mandatory everything.

    Fuck Off, Socialists. You ruin every fucking thing you touch.
    Non taxable?
    Mandatory reporting of 8% while going home with 13% or so, if you're any good.
    So it's all taxable. You're just breaking the law. Got it.
    Never gone over the speed limit?

    Fuck Off and Get a Life.
    One is a felony. One is a ticket. Pay what you owe asshole. Tax evaders are fuckheads.
    I prefer to call it aggressive tax mitigation strategies.

    There are many legal aggressive tax mitigation s

    The small business service industry is all about tax evasion. One of the top lunch places in downtown Portland (white owner) was the Red Coach. Place didn't take plastic, only cash. And the cash register wasn't turned on. Just the waitresses order pad yellow receipt was kept. You think the Koreans are reporting their cash receipts from their dry cleaning business? Then the entire hispanic landscaping business is run on cash.

    RoadTrip said:

    SFGbob said:

    Kaepsknee said:

    I’m a 20% max guy. And it goes down from there if service sucks. But it never goes down past 10% though.

    Here's something I've always wondered about tipping. If you order something to go do you still tip and how much?
    I suppose it depends on what kind of establishment the place is. If it's a large restaurant, the cooks get paid differently than the wait staff so no unless you want to give a few bucks to the hostess or whoever packed it up for you.
    I worked in nice joints all the way through college, and I tipped out the bartenders, hostesses, bussers and the line from my wad. When 5 or 6 waiters are all doing the same, each guy on the line walks home with about an extra $20-$25 in his pocket every shift he works. Bussers get even more tips because they earn less per hour than the guys on the line, and waiters were paid sub-minimum wage while declaring no less than 8% tips on their sales.

    If you're good, you're averaging 18% and clearing 13% on a typical night shift, so the 5% non-taxable bonus is a gift for busting your ass.

    My experiences were great, the system worked, Seattle won international awards for having the best service industries in the world and everybody was happy.

    Then came the lazy, entitled, untalented socialists fomenting their revolution from shitty, overpriced, fair-trade coffee shops where the tip jar became a fixture like the penny trays at 7-11. Tipping shifted from a reward to a tax and it's been downhill ever since. Service in Seattle almost uniformly sucks compared to 20 years ago.

    Welcome to the totalitarian world of mandatory everything.

    Fuck Off, Socialists. You ruin every fucking thing you touch.
    Non taxable?
    Mandatory reporting of 8% while going home with 13% or so, if you're any good.
    So it's all taxable. You're just breaking the law. Got it.
    So? I hope they get caught.
    The obvious question this poses is what Taxpayer-Funded program are you benefitting from, Damone?

    Otherwise, what business is it of yours?
    You’re missing my point. I get reamed on taxes. I follow the law while taking everything legal way to avoid taxes and pay the absolute minimum. If I don’t follow the law,, they will fuck me. And they have the power to do so. If someone is evading taxes (vs legally avoiding) then fuck you, and I hope you get caught and get fucked royally. I’ve had my dust ups with various tax authorities. So fuck anyone who cheats on their taxes.

    This is an entirely different argument as to what I think of the tax code, the IRS and government in general. I’m sure you’re smart enough to parse this out.
    IRS is asshoe
  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 8,077 Standard Supporter

    Goduckies said:

    Goduckies said:

    If you say so

    You're an Uber driver in N Idaho. Remember that story about driving nurses?

    Everything else is bullshit.
    And your point? I made 1800 last week up here... 1000 so far this week here and its slow season... and every single thing I have mentioned in this thread is the truth... I have no reason to lie.
    You clear $50k a year max after expenses and taxes. You claim to be in N Idaho and the Bay Area at the same time. And are a world traveler. You're full of shit.




    I wasn't average and at Wells that 68k is base... I actually made 75 at the end... plus bonus on top
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    Goduckies said:

    Goduckies said:

    Goduckies said:

    If you say so

    You're an Uber driver in N Idaho. Remember that story about driving nurses?

    Everything else is bullshit.
    And your point? I made 1800 last week up here... 1000 so far this week here and its slow season... and every single thing I have mentioned in this thread is the truth... I have no reason to lie.
    You clear $50k a year max after expenses and taxes. You claim to be in N Idaho and the Bay Area at the same time. And are a world traveler. You're full of shit.




    I wasn't average and at Wells that 68k is base... I actually made 75 at the end... plus bonus on top
    Big money. No wonder could afford the big 7 series.
  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 8,077 Standard Supporter
    edited March 2022
    Also Mike I moved to CDA last March if you have any degree which I doubt your dumb ass would have figured out that I had moved.

    Also... I did every single one of those trips, plus flew to the bay area for 2 weddings... some were cruises some straight there
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    Goduckies said:

    Also Mike I moved to CDA last March if you have any degree which I doubt your dumb ass would have figured out that I had moved.

    You previously used that you were driving in SF in the present tense. Mr pulling down 75k in the Bay Area world traveler.