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  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,773 Swaye's Wigwam

    46XiJCAB said:


    dnc said:

    I prefer jokes that punch up not down.

    Like men punching down on women athletes?
    HR, YK
    Right about what? I’m not even really sure what argument this is. If gender is a social construct, if people being transgender is fully 100% backed up by the science, if transitioning to a woman decreased their athletic performance enough to make it fair, they would still win sporting events sometimes, right?

    If her winning an event proves that this is just men punching down on female athletes then her coming in 8th in her next race should be proof I’m right.



    How many of the people on your side are going to say she lost on purpose? You should pay attention when the people arguing alongside of you are desperate to make your argument unfalsifiable.

    Trans athletes have been allowed in the Olympics since 2013. They have one medal. From a team sport. Why aren’t they dominating? Losing on purpose again? But the whole point is to shit on women and take their spots and win but they keep fucking it up and losing on purpose again?

    I am open to the idea that it is not fair. But the evidence at this point does not suggest that is true. And if the evidence did suggest it was true then there wouldn’t be a need to hyper focus on a single race. Wouldn’t need to lie about why she lost a different race. Wouldn’t need to lie about trans women dominating. Wouldn’t need to lie about her performance as a swimmer before transitioning. Lotta lies mounting up for the side that’s just telling the truth.
    Gender differences have their roots in biology. They are not social constructs no matter how many "social scientists" argue otherwise.

    Wearing dresses? Sure, that's a social construct. Having balls and elevated testosterone? Biological difference.

    The argument of the left is to try and conflate the social with the biological. It's also to conflate the small subset of intersex people with the increasing number of people with gender dysphoria bc surprise! The left tore down the social aspects of gender.

    It's all funny because the entire premise is that actual transgender people have a Biological "female" brain or vice versa. How is that possible without Biological differences if gender is a social construct?

    P.s. my actual intersex friends think your a giant bigot and tool.
    I read this book a couple months ago.
    https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/53138024-t

    TL;DR, there's science, it's real, and there's differences.

    I don't remember now whether it's in the book, or in the author's Rogan appearance, or both, regardless, consider women's 100m world records.
    https://www.worldathletics.org/records/all-time-toplists/sprints/100-metres/outdoor/women/senior


    Here's the top five high school boys times, so far during March 2022.
    https://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/Division/Top.aspx?DivID=125105


    A 15 or 16 boy from Texas would set a world record that might never be beaten, by saying he was trans.

    The top HS boys tim there would be as far ahead of the 2021 Olympic finals as Lane 4 & 6 in this photo.
    image
    I never flag posts but this deserves it. This retard Zuby set a world record because he just said he was trans retarded shit. No he didn’t.

    How come the “do your own research crowd” has never researched a single word that comes out of their mouth?

    You cannot walk into a gym or a track or a pool and say “I’m trans” and compete. There are rules in place. Rules specifically designed to make sure the competition is fair.

    We are not arguing that men aren’t bigger, stronger, faster. That’s the whole point of the rules. So if you or any other jerk off wants to spend a year medically transitioning just to own the libs, go ahead. More of that punching up I’ve heard so much about.
    You’re erasing women in favor of guys who think they’re women. Idiot you don’t even understand what you’re doing to young girls and women. Go fuck yourself Kobe. Woman hater.
    Yes, you’ll force them to carry their rapists baby but has the left ever thought about all the damage done to that girl that came in 4th instead of 3rd at a swim meet?
    JFC. White flag. Logical fallacy much?
    I think we are close to Kobe disappearing again.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,142 Standard Supporter

    46XiJCAB said:


    dnc said:

    I prefer jokes that punch up not down.

    Like men punching down on women athletes?
    HR, YK
    Right about what? I’m not even really sure what argument this is. If gender is a social construct, if people being transgender is fully 100% backed up by the science, if transitioning to a woman decreased their athletic performance enough to make it fair, they would still win sporting events sometimes, right?

    If her winning an event proves that this is just men punching down on female athletes then her coming in 8th in her next race should be proof I’m right.



    How many of the people on your side are going to say she lost on purpose? You should pay attention when the people arguing alongside of you are desperate to make your argument unfalsifiable.

    Trans athletes have been allowed in the Olympics since 2013. They have one medal. From a team sport. Why aren’t they dominating? Losing on purpose again? But the whole point is to shit on women and take their spots and win but they keep fucking it up and losing on purpose again?

    I am open to the idea that it is not fair. But the evidence at this point does not suggest that is true. And if the evidence did suggest it was true then there wouldn’t be a need to hyper focus on a single race. Wouldn’t need to lie about why she lost a different race. Wouldn’t need to lie about trans women dominating. Wouldn’t need to lie about her performance as a swimmer before transitioning. Lotta lies mounting up for the side that’s just telling the truth.
    Gender differences have their roots in biology. They are not social constructs no matter how many "social scientists" argue otherwise.

    Wearing dresses? Sure, that's a social construct. Having balls and elevated testosterone? Biological difference.

    The argument of the left is to try and conflate the social with the biological. It's also to conflate the small subset of intersex people with the increasing number of people with gender dysphoria bc surprise! The left tore down the social aspects of gender.

    It's all funny because the entire premise is that actual transgender people have a Biological "female" brain or vice versa. How is that possible without Biological differences if gender is a social construct?

    P.s. my actual intersex friends think your a giant bigot and tool.
    I read this book a couple months ago.
    https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/53138024-t

    TL;DR, there's science, it's real, and there's differences.

    I don't remember now whether it's in the book, or in the author's Rogan appearance, or both, regardless, consider women's 100m world records.
    https://www.worldathletics.org/records/all-time-toplists/sprints/100-metres/outdoor/women/senior


    Here's the top five high school boys times, so far during March 2022.
    https://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/Division/Top.aspx?DivID=125105


    A 15 or 16 boy from Texas would set a world record that might never be beaten, by saying he was trans.

    The top HS boys tim there would be as far ahead of the 2021 Olympic finals as Lane 4 & 6 in this photo.
    image
    I never flag posts but this deserves it. This retard Zuby set a world record because he just said he was trans retarded shit. No he didn’t.

    How come the “do your own research crowd” has never researched a single word that comes out of their mouth?

    You cannot walk into a gym or a track or a pool and say “I’m trans” and compete. There are rules in place. Rules specifically designed to make sure the competition is fair.

    We are not arguing that men aren’t bigger, stronger, faster. That’s the whole point of the rules. So if you or any other jerk off wants to spend a year medically transitioning just to own the libs, go ahead. More of that punching up I’ve heard so much about.
    You’re erasing women in favor of guys who think they’re women. Idiot you don’t even understand what you’re doing to young girls and women. Go fuck yourself Kobe. Woman hater.
    Yes, you’ll force them to carry their rapists baby but has the left ever thought about all the damage done to that girl that came in 4th instead of 3rd at a swim meet?
    JFC. White flag. Logical fallacy much?
    I think we are close to Kobe disappearing again.
    His brain checked out a long time ago.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    46XiJCAB said:


    dnc said:

    I prefer jokes that punch up not down.

    Like men punching down on women athletes?
    HR, YK
    Right about what? I’m not even really sure what argument this is. If gender is a social construct, if people being transgender is fully 100% backed up by the science, if transitioning to a woman decreased their athletic performance enough to make it fair, they would still win sporting events sometimes, right?

    If her winning an event proves that this is just men punching down on female athletes then her coming in 8th in her next race should be proof I’m right.



    How many of the people on your side are going to say she lost on purpose? You should pay attention when the people arguing alongside of you are desperate to make your argument unfalsifiable.

    Trans athletes have been allowed in the Olympics since 2013. They have one medal. From a team sport. Why aren’t they dominating? Losing on purpose again? But the whole point is to shit on women and take their spots and win but they keep fucking it up and losing on purpose again?

    I am open to the idea that it is not fair. But the evidence at this point does not suggest that is true. And if the evidence did suggest it was true then there wouldn’t be a need to hyper focus on a single race. Wouldn’t need to lie about why she lost a different race. Wouldn’t need to lie about trans women dominating. Wouldn’t need to lie about her performance as a swimmer before transitioning. Lotta lies mounting up for the side that’s just telling the truth.
    Gender differences have their roots in biology. They are not social constructs no matter how many "social scientists" argue otherwise.

    Wearing dresses? Sure, that's a social construct. Having balls and elevated testosterone? Biological difference.

    The argument of the left is to try and conflate the social with the biological. It's also to conflate the small subset of intersex people with the increasing number of people with gender dysphoria bc surprise! The left tore down the social aspects of gender.

    It's all funny because the entire premise is that actual transgender people have a Biological "female" brain or vice versa. How is that possible without Biological differences if gender is a social construct?

    P.s. my actual intersex friends think your a giant bigot and tool.
    I read this book a couple months ago.
    https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/53138024-t

    TL;DR, there's science, it's real, and there's differences.

    I don't remember now whether it's in the book, or in the author's Rogan appearance, or both, regardless, consider women's 100m world records.
    https://www.worldathletics.org/records/all-time-toplists/sprints/100-metres/outdoor/women/senior


    Here's the top five high school boys times, so far during March 2022.
    https://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/Division/Top.aspx?DivID=125105


    A 15 or 16 boy from Texas would set a world record that might never be beaten, by saying he was trans.

    The top HS boys tim there would be as far ahead of the 2021 Olympic finals as Lane 4 & 6 in this photo.
    image
    I never flag posts but this deserves it. This retard Zuby set a world record because he just said he was trans retarded shit. No he didn’t.

    How come the “do your own research crowd” has never researched a single word that comes out of their mouth?

    You cannot walk into a gym or a track or a pool and say “I’m trans” and compete. There are rules in place. Rules specifically designed to make sure the competition is fair.

    We are not arguing that men aren’t bigger, stronger, faster. That’s the whole point of the rules. So if you or any other jerk off wants to spend a year medically transitioning just to own the libs, go ahead. More of that punching up I’ve heard so much about.
    You’re erasing women in favor of guys who think they’re women. Idiot you don’t even understand what you’re doing to young girls and women. Go fuck yourself Kobe. Woman hater.
    Yes, you’ll force them to carry their rapists baby but has the left ever thought about all the damage done to that girl that came in 4th instead of 3rd at a swim meet?
    JFC. White flag. Logical fallacy much?
    I think we are close to Kobe disappearing again.
    We are now into emotional outburst territory.
  • TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    46XiJCAB said:


    dnc said:

    I prefer jokes that punch up not down.

    Like men punching down on women athletes?
    HR, YK
    Right about what? I’m not even really sure what argument this is. If gender is a social construct, if people being transgender is fully 100% backed up by the science, if transitioning to a woman decreased their athletic performance enough to make it fair, they would still win sporting events sometimes, right?

    If her winning an event proves that this is just men punching down on female athletes then her coming in 8th in her next race should be proof I’m right.



    How many of the people on your side are going to say she lost on purpose? You should pay attention when the people arguing alongside of you are desperate to make your argument unfalsifiable.

    Trans athletes have been allowed in the Olympics since 2013. They have one medal. From a team sport. Why aren’t they dominating? Losing on purpose again? But the whole point is to shit on women and take their spots and win but they keep fucking it up and losing on purpose again?

    I am open to the idea that it is not fair. But the evidence at this point does not suggest that is true. And if the evidence did suggest it was true then there wouldn’t be a need to hyper focus on a single race. Wouldn’t need to lie about why she lost a different race. Wouldn’t need to lie about trans women dominating. Wouldn’t need to lie about her performance as a swimmer before transitioning. Lotta lies mounting up for the side that’s just telling the truth.
    Gender differences have their roots in biology. They are not social constructs no matter how many "social scientists" argue otherwise.

    Wearing dresses? Sure, that's a social construct. Having balls and elevated testosterone? Biological difference.

    The argument of the left is to try and conflate the social with the biological. It's also to conflate the small subset of intersex people with the increasing number of people with gender dysphoria bc surprise! The left tore down the social aspects of gender.

    It's all funny because the entire premise is that actual transgender people have a Biological "female" brain or vice versa. How is that possible without Biological differences if gender is a social construct?

    P.s. my actual intersex friends think your a giant bigot and tool.
    I read this book a couple months ago.
    https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/53138024-t

    TL;DR, there's science, it's real, and there's differences.

    I don't remember now whether it's in the book, or in the author's Rogan appearance, or both, regardless, consider women's 100m world records.
    https://www.worldathletics.org/records/all-time-toplists/sprints/100-metres/outdoor/women/senior


    Here's the top five high school boys times, so far during March 2022.
    https://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/Division/Top.aspx?DivID=125105


    A 15 or 16 boy from Texas would set a world record that might never be beaten, by saying he was trans.

    The top HS boys tim there would be as far ahead of the 2021 Olympic finals as Lane 4 & 6 in this photo.
    image
    I never flag posts but this deserves it. This retard Zuby set a world record because he just said he was trans retarded shit. No he didn’t.

    How come the “do your own research crowd” has never researched a single word that comes out of their mouth?

    You cannot walk into a gym or a track or a pool and say “I’m trans” and compete. There are rules in place. Rules specifically designed to make sure the competition is fair.

    We are not arguing that men aren’t bigger, stronger, faster. That’s the whole point of the rules. So if you or any other jerk off wants to spend a year medically transitioning just to own the libs, go ahead. More of that punching up I’ve heard so much about.
    You’re erasing women in favor of guys who think they’re women. Idiot you don’t even understand what you’re doing to young girls and women. Go fuck yourself Kobe. Woman hater.
    Yes, you’ll force them to carry their rapists baby but has the left ever thought about all the damage done to that girl that came in 4th instead of 3rd at a swim meet?
    JFC. White flag. Logical fallacy much?
    I mean if we’re talking about the harm being done to young girls and women, I think context is important.

    So which do you think will be more harmful to young girls and women, Mike? I’d love to hear the classical liberal take on it.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited March 2022

    46XiJCAB said:


    dnc said:

    I prefer jokes that punch up not down.

    Like men punching down on women athletes?
    HR, YK
    Right about what? I’m not even really sure what argument this is. If gender is a social construct, if people being transgender is fully 100% backed up by the science, if transitioning to a woman decreased their athletic performance enough to make it fair, they would still win sporting events sometimes, right?

    If her winning an event proves that this is just men punching down on female athletes then her coming in 8th in her next race should be proof I’m right.



    How many of the people on your side are going to say she lost on purpose? You should pay attention when the people arguing alongside of you are desperate to make your argument unfalsifiable.

    Trans athletes have been allowed in the Olympics since 2013. They have one medal. From a team sport. Why aren’t they dominating? Losing on purpose again? But the whole point is to shit on women and take their spots and win but they keep fucking it up and losing on purpose again?

    I am open to the idea that it is not fair. But the evidence at this point does not suggest that is true. And if the evidence did suggest it was true then there wouldn’t be a need to hyper focus on a single race. Wouldn’t need to lie about why she lost a different race. Wouldn’t need to lie about trans women dominating. Wouldn’t need to lie about her performance as a swimmer before transitioning. Lotta lies mounting up for the side that’s just telling the truth.
    Gender differences have their roots in biology. They are not social constructs no matter how many "social scientists" argue otherwise.

    Wearing dresses? Sure, that's a social construct. Having balls and elevated testosterone? Biological difference.

    The argument of the left is to try and conflate the social with the biological. It's also to conflate the small subset of intersex people with the increasing number of people with gender dysphoria bc surprise! The left tore down the social aspects of gender.

    It's all funny because the entire premise is that actual transgender people have a Biological "female" brain or vice versa. How is that possible without Biological differences if gender is a social construct?

    P.s. my actual intersex friends think your a giant bigot and tool.
    I read this book a couple months ago.
    https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/53138024-t

    TL;DR, there's science, it's real, and there's differences.

    I don't remember now whether it's in the book, or in the author's Rogan appearance, or both, regardless, consider women's 100m world records.
    https://www.worldathletics.org/records/all-time-toplists/sprints/100-metres/outdoor/women/senior


    Here's the top five high school boys times, so far during March 2022.
    https://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/Division/Top.aspx?DivID=125105


    A 15 or 16 boy from Texas would set a world record that might never be beaten, by saying he was trans.

    The top HS boys tim there would be as far ahead of the 2021 Olympic finals as Lane 4 & 6 in this photo.
    image
    I never flag posts but this deserves it. This retard Zuby set a world record because he just said he was trans retarded shit. No he didn’t.

    How come the “do your own research crowd” has never researched a single word that comes out of their mouth?

    You cannot walk into a gym or a track or a pool and say “I’m trans” and compete. There are rules in place. Rules specifically designed to make sure the competition is fair.

    We are not arguing that men aren’t bigger, stronger, faster. That’s the whole point of the rules. So if you or any other jerk off wants to spend a year medically transitioning just to own the libs, go ahead. More of that punching up I’ve heard so much about.
    You’re erasing women in favor of guys who think they’re women. Idiot you don’t even understand what you’re doing to young girls and women. Go fuck yourself Kobe. Woman hater.
    Yes, you’ll force them to carry their rapists baby but has the left ever thought about all the damage done to that girl that came in 4th instead of 3rd at a swim meet?
    JFC. White flag. Logical fallacy much?
    I mean if we’re talking about the harm being done to young girls and women, I think context is important.

    So which do you think will be more harmful to young girls and women, Mike? I’d love to hear the classical liberal take on it.
    Keep digging. Most people would stop when the hole is too deep. Keep rocking the logical fallacies. It’s you’re best move. You don’t give a fuck about young girls. That’s apparent.
  • Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,861 Founders Club


    dnc said:

    I prefer jokes that punch up not down.

    Like men punching down on women athletes?
    HR, YK
    Right about what? I’m not even really sure what argument this is. If gender is a social construct, if people being transgender is fully 100% backed up by the science, if transitioning to a woman decreased their athletic performance enough to make it fair, they would still win sporting events sometimes, right?

    If her winning an event proves that this is just men punching down on female athletes then her coming in 8th in her next race should be proof I’m right.



    How many of the people on your side are going to say she lost on purpose? You should pay attention when the people arguing alongside of you are desperate to make your argument unfalsifiable.

    Trans athletes have been allowed in the Olympics since 2013. They have one medal. From a team sport. Why aren’t they dominating? Losing on purpose again? But the whole point is to shit on women and take their spots and win but they keep fucking it up and losing on purpose again?

    I am open to the idea that it is not fair. But the evidence at this point does not suggest that is true. And if the evidence did suggest it was true then there wouldn’t be a need to hyper focus on a single race. Wouldn’t need to lie about why she lost a different race. Wouldn’t need to lie about trans women dominating. Wouldn’t need to lie about her performance as a swimmer before transitioning. Lotta lies mounting up for the side that’s just telling the truth.
    Gender differences have their roots in biology. They are not social constructs no matter how many "social scientists" argue otherwise.

    Wearing dresses? Sure, that's a social construct. Having balls and elevated testosterone? Biological difference.

    The argument of the left is to try and conflate the social with the biological. It's also to conflate the small subset of intersex people with the increasing number of people with gender dysphoria bc surprise! The left tore down the social aspects of gender.

    It's all funny because the entire premise is that actual transgender people have a Biological "female" brain or vice versa. How is that possible without Biological differences if gender is a social construct?

    P.s. my actual intersex friends think your a giant bigot and tool.
    I read this book a couple months ago.
    https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/53138024-t

    TL;DR, there's science, it's real, and there's differences.

    I don't remember now whether it's in the book, or in the author's Rogan appearance, or both, regardless, consider women's 100m world records.
    https://www.worldathletics.org/records/all-time-toplists/sprints/100-metres/outdoor/women/senior


    Here's the top five high school boys times, so far during March 2022.
    https://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/Division/Top.aspx?DivID=125105


    A 15 or 16 boy from Texas would set a world record that might never be beaten, by saying he was trans.

    The top HS boys tim there would be as far ahead of the 2021 Olympic finals as Lane 4 & 6 in this photo.
    image
    I never flag posts but this deserves it. This retard Zuby set a world record because he just said he was trans retarded shit. No he didn’t.

    How come the “do your own research crowd” has never researched a single word that comes out of their mouth?

    You cannot walk into a gym or a track or a pool and say “I’m trans” and compete. There are rules in place. Rules specifically designed to make sure the competition is fair.

    We are not arguing that men aren’t bigger, stronger, faster. That’s the whole point of the rules. So if you or any other jerk off wants to spend a year medically transitioning just to own the libs, go ahead. More of that punching up I’ve heard so much about.
    Whatever rules they have are a joke and politically correct stupidity has replaced fairness
  • TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    46XiJCAB said:


    dnc said:

    I prefer jokes that punch up not down.

    Like men punching down on women athletes?
    HR, YK
    Right about what? I’m not even really sure what argument this is. If gender is a social construct, if people being transgender is fully 100% backed up by the science, if transitioning to a woman decreased their athletic performance enough to make it fair, they would still win sporting events sometimes, right?

    If her winning an event proves that this is just men punching down on female athletes then her coming in 8th in her next race should be proof I’m right.



    How many of the people on your side are going to say she lost on purpose? You should pay attention when the people arguing alongside of you are desperate to make your argument unfalsifiable.

    Trans athletes have been allowed in the Olympics since 2013. They have one medal. From a team sport. Why aren’t they dominating? Losing on purpose again? But the whole point is to shit on women and take their spots and win but they keep fucking it up and losing on purpose again?

    I am open to the idea that it is not fair. But the evidence at this point does not suggest that is true. And if the evidence did suggest it was true then there wouldn’t be a need to hyper focus on a single race. Wouldn’t need to lie about why she lost a different race. Wouldn’t need to lie about trans women dominating. Wouldn’t need to lie about her performance as a swimmer before transitioning. Lotta lies mounting up for the side that’s just telling the truth.
    Gender differences have their roots in biology. They are not social constructs no matter how many "social scientists" argue otherwise.

    Wearing dresses? Sure, that's a social construct. Having balls and elevated testosterone? Biological difference.

    The argument of the left is to try and conflate the social with the biological. It's also to conflate the small subset of intersex people with the increasing number of people with gender dysphoria bc surprise! The left tore down the social aspects of gender.

    It's all funny because the entire premise is that actual transgender people have a Biological "female" brain or vice versa. How is that possible without Biological differences if gender is a social construct?

    P.s. my actual intersex friends think your a giant bigot and tool.
    I read this book a couple months ago.
    https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/53138024-t

    TL;DR, there's science, it's real, and there's differences.

    I don't remember now whether it's in the book, or in the author's Rogan appearance, or both, regardless, consider women's 100m world records.
    https://www.worldathletics.org/records/all-time-toplists/sprints/100-metres/outdoor/women/senior


    Here's the top five high school boys times, so far during March 2022.
    https://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/Division/Top.aspx?DivID=125105


    A 15 or 16 boy from Texas would set a world record that might never be beaten, by saying he was trans.

    The top HS boys tim there would be as far ahead of the 2021 Olympic finals as Lane 4 & 6 in this photo.
    image
    I never flag posts but this deserves it. This retard Zuby set a world record because he just said he was trans retarded shit. No he didn’t.

    How come the “do your own research crowd” has never researched a single word that comes out of their mouth?

    You cannot walk into a gym or a track or a pool and say “I’m trans” and compete. There are rules in place. Rules specifically designed to make sure the competition is fair.

    We are not arguing that men aren’t bigger, stronger, faster. That’s the whole point of the rules. So if you or any other jerk off wants to spend a year medically transitioning just to own the libs, go ahead. More of that punching up I’ve heard so much about.
    You’re erasing women in favor of guys who think they’re women. Idiot you don’t even understand what you’re doing to young girls and women. Go fuck yourself Kobe. Woman hater.
    Yes, you’ll force them to carry their rapists baby but has the left ever thought about all the damage done to that girl that came in 4th instead of 3rd at a swim meet?
    JFC. White flag. Logical fallacy much?
    I mean if we’re talking about the harm being done to young girls and women, I think context is important.

    So which do you think will be more harmful to young girls and women, Mike? I’d love to hear the classical liberal take on it.
    Keep digging. Most people would stop when the hole is too deep. Keep rocking the logical fallacies. It’s you’re best move. You don’t give a fuck about young girls. That’s apparent.
    The classical liberal in a nut shell.
  • Ice_HolmvikIce_Holmvik Member Posts: 2,912


    dnc said:

    I prefer jokes that punch up not down.

    Like men punching down on women athletes?
    HR, YK
    Right about what? I’m not even really sure what argument this is. If gender is a social construct, if people being transgender is fully 100% backed up by the science, if transitioning to a woman decreased their athletic performance enough to make it fair, they would still win sporting events sometimes, right?

    If her winning an event proves that this is just men punching down on female athletes then her coming in 8th in her next race should be proof I’m right.



    How many of the people on your side are going to say she lost on purpose? You should pay attention when the people arguing alongside of you are desperate to make your argument unfalsifiable.

    Trans athletes have been allowed in the Olympics since 2013. They have one medal. From a team sport. Why aren’t they dominating? Losing on purpose again? But the whole point is to shit on women and take their spots and win but they keep fucking it up and losing on purpose again?

    I am open to the idea that it is not fair. But the evidence at this point does not suggest that is true. And if the evidence did suggest it was true then there wouldn’t be a need to hyper focus on a single race. Wouldn’t need to lie about why she lost a different race. Wouldn’t need to lie about trans women dominating. Wouldn’t need to lie about her performance as a swimmer before transitioning. Lotta lies mounting up for the side that’s just telling the truth.
    Gender differences have their roots in biology. They are not social constructs no matter how many "social scientists" argue otherwise.

    Wearing dresses? Sure, that's a social construct. Having balls and elevated testosterone? Biological difference.

    The argument of the left is to try and conflate the social with the biological. It's also to conflate the small subset of intersex people with the increasing number of people with gender dysphoria bc surprise! The left tore down the social aspects of gender.

    It's all funny because the entire premise is that actual transgender people have a Biological "female" brain or vice versa. How is that possible without Biological differences if gender is a social construct?

    P.s. my actual intersex friends think your a giant bigot and tool.
    I read this book a couple months ago.
    https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/53138024-t

    TL;DR, there's science, it's real, and there's differences.

    I don't remember now whether it's in the book, or in the author's Rogan appearance, or both, regardless, consider women's 100m world records.
    https://www.worldathletics.org/records/all-time-toplists/sprints/100-metres/outdoor/women/senior


    Here's the top five high school boys times, so far during March 2022.
    https://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/Division/Top.aspx?DivID=125105


    A 15 or 16 boy from Texas would set a world record that might never be beaten, by saying he was trans.

    The top HS boys tim there would be as far ahead of the 2021 Olympic finals as Lane 4 & 6 in this photo.
    image
    I never flag posts but this deserves it. This retard Zuby set a world record because he just said he was trans retarded shit. No he didn’t.

    How come the “do your own research crowd” has never researched a single word that comes out of their mouth?

    You cannot walk into a gym or a track or a pool and say “I’m trans” and compete. There are rules in place. Rules specifically designed to make sure the competition is fair.

    We are not arguing that men aren’t bigger, stronger, faster. That’s the whole point of the rules. So if you or any other jerk off wants to spend a year medically transitioning just to own the libs, go ahead. More of that punching up I’ve heard so much about.
    So what your saying is, there's some set of criteria for being a woman.
    To compete in organized sporting events you must meet a criteria, yes.

    I wouldn’t even object to the concept that there’s a set criteria in every day life. But you’ve never checked someone’s chromosomes or ovaries. It’s how they present.

    So which one is a man and which one is a woman?





    And explain to me how your walking around seeing people criteria would call the first one a woman and the second one a man.
    The one who was born with a cock and balls is a man. The one who was born with a pussy, a uterus and ovaries is a woman.

    No amount of any bullshit you spout changes that. A woman who has taken testosterone, had surgery, and dresses like a man is a woman. If a woman wants to take hormones and live as a man, fine by me. Live and let live. And I will call them what the appear to be. But they won't be getting that prostate checked anytime soon.



    Please check your prostrate privelege.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited March 2022

    46XiJCAB said:


    dnc said:

    I prefer jokes that punch up not down.

    Like men punching down on women athletes?
    HR, YK
    Right about what? I’m not even really sure what argument this is. If gender is a social construct, if people being transgender is fully 100% backed up by the science, if transitioning to a woman decreased their athletic performance enough to make it fair, they would still win sporting events sometimes, right?

    If her winning an event proves that this is just men punching down on female athletes then her coming in 8th in her next race should be proof I’m right.



    How many of the people on your side are going to say she lost on purpose? You should pay attention when the people arguing alongside of you are desperate to make your argument unfalsifiable.

    Trans athletes have been allowed in the Olympics since 2013. They have one medal. From a team sport. Why aren’t they dominating? Losing on purpose again? But the whole point is to shit on women and take their spots and win but they keep fucking it up and losing on purpose again?

    I am open to the idea that it is not fair. But the evidence at this point does not suggest that is true. And if the evidence did suggest it was true then there wouldn’t be a need to hyper focus on a single race. Wouldn’t need to lie about why she lost a different race. Wouldn’t need to lie about trans women dominating. Wouldn’t need to lie about her performance as a swimmer before transitioning. Lotta lies mounting up for the side that’s just telling the truth.
    Gender differences have their roots in biology. They are not social constructs no matter how many "social scientists" argue otherwise.

    Wearing dresses? Sure, that's a social construct. Having balls and elevated testosterone? Biological difference.

    The argument of the left is to try and conflate the social with the biological. It's also to conflate the small subset of intersex people with the increasing number of people with gender dysphoria bc surprise! The left tore down the social aspects of gender.

    It's all funny because the entire premise is that actual transgender people have a Biological "female" brain or vice versa. How is that possible without Biological differences if gender is a social construct?

    P.s. my actual intersex friends think your a giant bigot and tool.
    I read this book a couple months ago.
    https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/53138024-t

    TL;DR, there's science, it's real, and there's differences.

    I don't remember now whether it's in the book, or in the author's Rogan appearance, or both, regardless, consider women's 100m world records.
    https://www.worldathletics.org/records/all-time-toplists/sprints/100-metres/outdoor/women/senior


    Here's the top five high school boys times, so far during March 2022.
    https://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/Division/Top.aspx?DivID=125105


    A 15 or 16 boy from Texas would set a world record that might never be beaten, by saying he was trans.

    The top HS boys tim there would be as far ahead of the 2021 Olympic finals as Lane 4 & 6 in this photo.
    image
    I never flag posts but this deserves it. This retard Zuby set a world record because he just said he was trans retarded shit. No he didn’t.

    How come the “do your own research crowd” has never researched a single word that comes out of their mouth?

    You cannot walk into a gym or a track or a pool and say “I’m trans” and compete. There are rules in place. Rules specifically designed to make sure the competition is fair.

    We are not arguing that men aren’t bigger, stronger, faster. That’s the whole point of the rules. So if you or any other jerk off wants to spend a year medically transitioning just to own the libs, go ahead. More of that punching up I’ve heard so much about.
    You’re erasing women in favor of guys who think they’re women. Idiot you don’t even understand what you’re doing to young girls and women. Go fuck yourself Kobe. Woman hater.
    Yes, you’ll force them to carry their rapists baby but has the left ever thought about all the damage done to that girl that came in 4th instead of 3rd at a swim meet?
    JFC. White flag. Logical fallacy much?
    I mean if we’re talking about the harm being done to young girls and women, I think context is important.

    So which do you think will be more harmful to young girls and women, Mike? I’d love to hear the classical liberal take on it.
    Keep digging. Most people would stop when the hole is too deep. Keep rocking the logical fallacies. It’s you’re best move. You don’t give a fuck about young girls. That’s apparent.
    The classical liberal in a nut shell.
    Logical fallacy in a nut shell.

    From someone who thinks if you're not the most radical leftist progressive communist then you're a conservative this doesn't mean much.

    Bill Maher might as well be William F Buckley to TKS these days.
  • GoduckiesGoduckies Member Posts: 6,561
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