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  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    dnc said:

    I prefer jokes that punch up not down.

    Like men punching down on women athletes?
    HR, YK
    Right about what? I’m not even really sure what argument this is. If gender is a social construct, if people being transgender is fully 100% backed up by the science, if transitioning to a woman decreased their athletic performance enough to make it fair, they would still win sporting events sometimes, right?

    If her winning an event proves that this is just men punching down on female athletes then her coming in 8th in her next race should be proof I’m right.



    How many of the people on your side are going to say she lost on purpose? You should pay attention when the people arguing alongside of you are desperate to make your argument unfalsifiable.

    Trans athletes have been allowed in the Olympics since 2013. They have one medal. From a team sport. Why aren’t they dominating? Losing on purpose again? But the whole point is to shit on women and take their spots and win but they keep fucking it up and losing on purpose again?

    I am open to the idea that it is not fair. But the evidence at this point does not suggest that is true. And if the evidence did suggest it was true then there wouldn’t be a need to hyper focus on a single race. Wouldn’t need to lie about why she lost a different race. Wouldn’t need to lie about trans women dominating. Wouldn’t need to lie about her performance as a swimmer before transitioning. Lotta lies mounting up for the side that’s just telling the truth.
    Gender differences have their roots in biology. They are not social constructs no matter how many "social scientists" argue otherwise.

    Wearing dresses? Sure, that's a social construct. Having balls and elevated testosterone? Biological difference.

    The argument of the left is to try and conflate the social with the biological. It's also to conflate the small subset of intersex people with the increasing number of people with gender dysphoria bc surprise! The left tore down the social aspects of gender.

    It's all funny because the entire premise is that actual transgender people have a Biological "female" brain or vice versa. How is that possible without Biological differences if gender is a social construct?

    P.s. my actual intersex friends think your a giant bigot and tool.
    I read this book a couple months ago.
    https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/53138024-t

    TL;DR, there's science, it's real, and there's differences.

    I don't remember now whether it's in the book, or in the author's Rogan appearance, or both, regardless, consider women's 100m world records.
    https://www.worldathletics.org/records/all-time-toplists/sprints/100-metres/outdoor/women/senior


    Here's the top five high school boys times, so far during March 2022.
    https://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/Division/Top.aspx?DivID=125105


    A 15 or 16 boy from Texas would set a world record that might never be beaten, by saying he was trans.

    The top HS boys tim there would be as far ahead of the 2021 Olympic finals as Lane 4 & 6 in this photo.
    image
    I never flag posts but this deserves it. This retard Zuby set a world record because he just said he was trans retarded shit. No he didn’t.

    How come the “do your own research crowd” has never researched a single word that comes out of their mouth?

    You cannot walk into a gym or a track or a pool and say “I’m trans” and compete. There are rules in place. Rules specifically designed to make sure the competition is fair.

    We are not arguing that men aren’t bigger, stronger, faster. That’s the whole point of the rules. So if you or any other jerk off wants to spend a year medically transitioning just to own the libs, go ahead. More of that punching up I’ve heard so much about.
  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 8,076 Standard Supporter
    Yes they get female hormones, that doesn't take away his male muscle mass or lungs... those were already built.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited March 2022


    dnc said:

    I prefer jokes that punch up not down.

    Like men punching down on women athletes?
    HR, YK
    Right about what? I’m not even really sure what argument this is. If gender is a social construct, if people being transgender is fully 100% backed up by the science, if transitioning to a woman decreased their athletic performance enough to make it fair, they would still win sporting events sometimes, right?

    If her winning an event proves that this is just men punching down on female athletes then her coming in 8th in her next race should be proof I’m right.



    How many of the people on your side are going to say she lost on purpose? You should pay attention when the people arguing alongside of you are desperate to make your argument unfalsifiable.

    Trans athletes have been allowed in the Olympics since 2013. They have one medal. From a team sport. Why aren’t they dominating? Losing on purpose again? But the whole point is to shit on women and take their spots and win but they keep fucking it up and losing on purpose again?

    I am open to the idea that it is not fair. But the evidence at this point does not suggest that is true. And if the evidence did suggest it was true then there wouldn’t be a need to hyper focus on a single race. Wouldn’t need to lie about why she lost a different race. Wouldn’t need to lie about trans women dominating. Wouldn’t need to lie about her performance as a swimmer before transitioning. Lotta lies mounting up for the side that’s just telling the truth.
    Gender differences have their roots in biology. They are not social constructs no matter how many "social scientists" argue otherwise.

    Wearing dresses? Sure, that's a social construct. Having balls and elevated testosterone? Biological difference.

    The argument of the left is to try and conflate the social with the biological. It's also to conflate the small subset of intersex people with the increasing number of people with gender dysphoria bc surprise! The left tore down the social aspects of gender.

    It's all funny because the entire premise is that actual transgender people have a Biological "female" brain or vice versa. How is that possible without Biological differences if gender is a social construct?

    P.s. my actual intersex friends think your a giant bigot and tool.
    I read this book a couple months ago.
    https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/53138024-t

    TL;DR, there's science, it's real, and there's differences.

    I don't remember now whether it's in the book, or in the author's Rogan appearance, or both, regardless, consider women's 100m world records.
    https://www.worldathletics.org/records/all-time-toplists/sprints/100-metres/outdoor/women/senior


    Here's the top five high school boys times, so far during March 2022.
    https://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/Division/Top.aspx?DivID=125105


    A 15 or 16 boy from Texas would set a world record that might never be beaten, by saying he was trans.

    The top HS boys tim there would be as far ahead of the 2021 Olympic finals as Lane 4 & 6 in this photo.
    image
    I never flag posts but this deserves it. This retard Zuby set a world record because he just said he was trans retarded shit. No he didn’t.

    How come the “do your own research crowd” has never researched a single word that comes out of their mouth?

    You cannot walk into a gym or a track or a pool and say “I’m trans” and compete. There are rules in place. Rules specifically designed to make sure the competition is fair.

    We are not arguing that men aren’t bigger, stronger, faster. That’s the whole point of the rules. So if you or any other jerk off wants to spend a year medically transitioning just to own the libs, go ahead. More of that punching up I’ve heard so much about.


    JFC you're a dimwit. A year of "transitioning" isn't going too offset a couple of decades of testosterone running through their veins. Tell me about all the women transitioning to men competing at the highest level with men? Why only one way?
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,897 Standard Supporter


    dnc said:

    I prefer jokes that punch up not down.

    Like men punching down on women athletes?
    HR, YK
    Right about what? I’m not even really sure what argument this is. If gender is a social construct, if people being transgender is fully 100% backed up by the science, if transitioning to a woman decreased their athletic performance enough to make it fair, they would still win sporting events sometimes, right?

    If her winning an event proves that this is just men punching down on female athletes then her coming in 8th in her next race should be proof I’m right.



    How many of the people on your side are going to say she lost on purpose? You should pay attention when the people arguing alongside of you are desperate to make your argument unfalsifiable.

    Trans athletes have been allowed in the Olympics since 2013. They have one medal. From a team sport. Why aren’t they dominating? Losing on purpose again? But the whole point is to shit on women and take their spots and win but they keep fucking it up and losing on purpose again?

    I am open to the idea that it is not fair. But the evidence at this point does not suggest that is true. And if the evidence did suggest it was true then there wouldn’t be a need to hyper focus on a single race. Wouldn’t need to lie about why she lost a different race. Wouldn’t need to lie about trans women dominating. Wouldn’t need to lie about her performance as a swimmer before transitioning. Lotta lies mounting up for the side that’s just telling the truth.
    Gender differences have their roots in biology. They are not social constructs no matter how many "social scientists" argue otherwise.

    Wearing dresses? Sure, that's a social construct. Having balls and elevated testosterone? Biological difference.

    The argument of the left is to try and conflate the social with the biological. It's also to conflate the small subset of intersex people with the increasing number of people with gender dysphoria bc surprise! The left tore down the social aspects of gender.

    It's all funny because the entire premise is that actual transgender people have a Biological "female" brain or vice versa. How is that possible without Biological differences if gender is a social construct?

    P.s. my actual intersex friends think your a giant bigot and tool.
    I read this book a couple months ago.
    https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/53138024-t

    TL;DR, there's science, it's real, and there's differences.

    I don't remember now whether it's in the book, or in the author's Rogan appearance, or both, regardless, consider women's 100m world records.
    https://www.worldathletics.org/records/all-time-toplists/sprints/100-metres/outdoor/women/senior


    Here's the top five high school boys times, so far during March 2022.
    https://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/Division/Top.aspx?DivID=125105


    A 15 or 16 boy from Texas would set a world record that might never be beaten, by saying he was trans.

    The top HS boys tim there would be as far ahead of the 2021 Olympic finals as Lane 4 & 6 in this photo.
    image
    I never flag posts but this deserves it. This retard Zuby set a world record because he just said he was trans retarded shit. No he didn’t.

    How come the “do your own research crowd” has never researched a single word that comes out of their mouth?

    You cannot walk into a gym or a track or a pool and say “I’m trans” and compete. There are rules in place. Rules specifically designed to make sure the competition is fair.

    We are not arguing that men aren’t bigger, stronger, faster. That’s the whole point of the rules. So if you or any other jerk off wants to spend a year medically transitioning just to own the libs, go ahead. More of that punching up I’ve heard so much about.


    JFC you're a dimwit. A year of "transitioning" isn't going too offset a couple of decades of testosterone running through their veins. Tell me about all the women transitioning to men competing at the highest level with men? Why only one way?
    When local high school males can dominate the US Women's World Cup team there is a lot slippage in male strength to still end up better than the top women. Plus, like voter registration who is checking to see if "transitioning" includes estrogen and how much? Like pedo hill, men pretending to be women in sports seems like another hill I'm happy to make the left defend.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959


    dnc said:

    I prefer jokes that punch up not down.

    Like men punching down on women athletes?
    HR, YK
    Right about what? I’m not even really sure what argument this is. If gender is a social construct, if people being transgender is fully 100% backed up by the science, if transitioning to a woman decreased their athletic performance enough to make it fair, they would still win sporting events sometimes, right?

    If her winning an event proves that this is just men punching down on female athletes then her coming in 8th in her next race should be proof I’m right.



    How many of the people on your side are going to say she lost on purpose? You should pay attention when the people arguing alongside of you are desperate to make your argument unfalsifiable.

    Trans athletes have been allowed in the Olympics since 2013. They have one medal. From a team sport. Why aren’t they dominating? Losing on purpose again? But the whole point is to shit on women and take their spots and win but they keep fucking it up and losing on purpose again?

    I am open to the idea that it is not fair. But the evidence at this point does not suggest that is true. And if the evidence did suggest it was true then there wouldn’t be a need to hyper focus on a single race. Wouldn’t need to lie about why she lost a different race. Wouldn’t need to lie about trans women dominating. Wouldn’t need to lie about her performance as a swimmer before transitioning. Lotta lies mounting up for the side that’s just telling the truth.
    Gender differences have their roots in biology. They are not social constructs no matter how many "social scientists" argue otherwise.

    Wearing dresses? Sure, that's a social construct. Having balls and elevated testosterone? Biological difference.

    The argument of the left is to try and conflate the social with the biological. It's also to conflate the small subset of intersex people with the increasing number of people with gender dysphoria bc surprise! The left tore down the social aspects of gender.

    It's all funny because the entire premise is that actual transgender people have a Biological "female" brain or vice versa. How is that possible without Biological differences if gender is a social construct?

    P.s. my actual intersex friends think your a giant bigot and tool.
    I read this book a couple months ago.
    https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/53138024-t

    TL;DR, there's science, it's real, and there's differences.

    I don't remember now whether it's in the book, or in the author's Rogan appearance, or both, regardless, consider women's 100m world records.
    https://www.worldathletics.org/records/all-time-toplists/sprints/100-metres/outdoor/women/senior


    Here's the top five high school boys times, so far during March 2022.
    https://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/Division/Top.aspx?DivID=125105


    A 15 or 16 boy from Texas would set a world record that might never be beaten, by saying he was trans.

    The top HS boys tim there would be as far ahead of the 2021 Olympic finals as Lane 4 & 6 in this photo.
    image
    I never flag posts but this deserves it. This retard Zuby set a world record because he just said he was trans retarded shit. No he didn’t.

    How come the “do your own research crowd” has never researched a single word that comes out of their mouth?

    You cannot walk into a gym or a track or a pool and say “I’m trans” and compete. There are rules in place. Rules specifically designed to make sure the competition is fair.

    We are not arguing that men aren’t bigger, stronger, faster. That’s the whole point of the rules. So if you or any other jerk off wants to spend a year medically transitioning just to own the libs, go ahead. More of that punching up I’ve heard so much about.
    So what your saying is, there's some set of criteria for being a woman.
    To compete in organized sporting events you must meet a criteria, yes.

    I wouldn’t even object to the concept that there’s a set criteria in every day life. But you’ve never checked someone’s chromosomes or ovaries. It’s how they present.

    So which one is a man and which one is a woman?





    And explain to me how your walking around seeing people criteria would call the first one a woman and the second one a man.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,460 Founders Club
    I doubt the democrats wanted this in an election year. Usually best as an off year sop to the demented base and then act normal for the election year

    Jackson opened the door

    Leave the kids alone

    Let women be women

    End the covid bullshit


    Three easy issues.


    I'd prefer

    Fossil fuels for everyone

    Lock the border

    End the covid bullshit and save the economy

    We take what we can get I guess
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    I doubt the democrats wanted this in an election year. Usually best as an off year sop to the demented base and then act normal for the election year

    Jackson opened the door

    Leave the kids alone

    Let women be women

    End the covid bullshit


    Three easy issues.


    I'd prefer

    Fossil fuels for everyone

    Lock the border

    End the covid bullshit and save the economy

    We take what we can get I guess

    "First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season."
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959


    It’s all just Marxism.