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thechatch
thechatch Member Posts: 7,264 Standard Supporter
I want one of you to make me believe that Joe is up to this. This is a generational moment. This is going to define the US and the West for decades.

Give me a reason to think Biden has what it takes to bring this to heel. Deep down I think all of you know that these waters are way too deep for him and his admin. I think the JC knows this. I think the vast majority of the American people knows this, and I know that the guy rolling tanks balls deep into the capital of Ukraine tomorrow morning knows this.

But give it your best shot. Talk me into thinking Joe has a path to victory here, because the math looks pretty bad from where I sit.
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  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,470 Founders Club
  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,264 Standard Supporter
    pawz said:

    JC ?

    Joint Chiefs
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,470 Founders Club
    edited February 2022
    thechatch said:

    pawz said:

    JC ?

    Joint Chiefs
    Copy.

    "if the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail"

  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    I don’t know what you think “up to this” means.

    Donald Trump is a spoiled brat who before he became president was best known for hosting a reality tv show and getting into cat fights with Rosie O’Donnell.

    Barack Obama was a junior senator from Illinois who may or may not have been born in Kenya

    George W Bush was a fucking moron. But I’d love to have a beer with him.

    Would they have been up to this? Why?

    Because Trump is intentionally rude and puffs out his chest when he knows there will be no consequences? Up for this?

    Because Obama sounded nice reading words other people wrote off a teleprompter? Up for this?

    Bush did throw out a really nice pitch in the first game back after 9/11 at Yankee Stadium. That’s about the closest any of these three got to proving they were up to something like this.

    And Ronald Reagan was a fucking actor and he’s the second most responsible for ending the Cold War, right behind Rocky.

    No one person is going to do this. Is Biden the best man to lead it? No, that’s why I voted for Bernie. But I do trust that he’s going to listen to our military and intelligence agencies. And while there are issues those groups, that’s the only way we’re going to do this, they’re going to have to deliver. And I trust that process a helluva lot more than I trust a lunatic that sicked his followers on the Capitol and listens to people like Steve Bannon, if he listens to anyone at all.
  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,347 Founders Club

    That was a long winded no from an ardent left wing shill.

    ….. FTFY
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,293 Standard Supporter

    I don’t know what you think “up to this” means.

    Donald Trump is a spoiled brat who before he became president was best known for hosting a reality tv show and getting into cat fights with Rosie O’Donnell.

    Barack Obama was a junior senator from Illinois who may or may not have been born in Kenya

    George W Bush was a fucking moron. But I’d love to have a beer with him.

    Would they have been up to this? Why?

    Because Trump is intentionally rude and puffs out his chest when he knows there will be no consequences? Up for this?

    Because Obama sounded nice reading words other people wrote off a teleprompter? Up for this?

    Bush did throw out a really nice pitch in the first game back after 9/11 at Yankee Stadium. That’s about the closest any of these three got to proving they were up to something like this.

    And Ronald Reagan was a fucking actor and he’s the second most responsible for ending the Cold War, right behind Rocky.

    No one person is going to do this. Is Biden the best man to lead it? No, that’s why I voted for Bernie. But I do trust that he’s going to listen to our military and intelligence agencies. And while there are issues those groups, that’s the only way we’re going to do this, they’re going to have to deliver. And I trust that process a helluva lot more than I trust a lunatic that sicked his followers on the Capitol and listens to people like Steve Bannon, if he listens to anyone at all.

    So, Biden is a no but you think Bernie would have been ready to handle this.
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,709 Founders Club
    SFGbob said:

    But I do trust that he’s going to listen to our military and intelligence agencies.

    You mean like he did during our Afghanistan withdrawl? The idiot child speaks!!!!

    Afghanistan story was framed as an intelligence failure. It happened faster than they thought and couldn’t react quickly. This time intelligence was right and had plenty of time and we got the exact same outcome.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    The military told Biden that they shouldn’t abandon Bagram airbase before we left. Biden ignored them.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    SFGbob said:

    But I do trust that he’s going to listen to our military and intelligence agencies.

    You mean like he did during our Afghanistan withdrawl? The idiot child speaks!!!!

    Sounds like a bit of a mixed bag.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,485 Founders Club
    Russia can use Bitcoin to do business with China. The sanctions will not stop them.
  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,264 Standard Supporter
    Biden has two major FP/Military blunders in 7 months that will cost many American lives.

    I’m sure glad the adults are back in charge. That was a long 4 years of relative peace throughout the world.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    Doogles said:





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  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    I don’t know what you think “up to this” means.

    Donald Trump is a spoiled brat who before he became president was best known for hosting a reality tv show and getting into cat fights with Rosie O’Donnell.

    Barack Obama was a junior senator from Illinois who may or may not have been born in Kenya

    George W Bush was a fucking moron. But I’d love to have a beer with him.

    Would they have been up to this? Why?

    Because Trump is intentionally rude and puffs out his chest when he knows there will be no consequences? Up for this?

    Because Obama sounded nice reading words other people wrote off a teleprompter? Up for this?

    Bush did throw out a really nice pitch in the first game back after 9/11 at Yankee Stadium. That’s about the closest any of these three got to proving they were up to something like this.

    And Ronald Reagan was a fucking actor and he’s the second most responsible for ending the Cold War, right behind Rocky.

    No one person is going to do this. Is Biden the best man to lead it? No, that’s why I voted for Bernie. But I do trust that he’s going to listen to our military and intelligence agencies. And while there are issues those groups, that’s the only way we’re going to do this, they’re going to have to deliver. And I trust that process a helluva lot more than I trust a lunatic that sicked his followers on the Capitol and listens to people like Steve Bannon, if he listens to anyone at all.

    When laughing is the only response necessary. God love ya Kobe. You tried little fella.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    Come on man, the Vegetable got this. He went toe to toe with Corn Pop at the pool of death.

    What can you say at this point after what we learned about China today, other than the only way this works out is if Joey stays the fuck out of the kitchen.
  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,264 Standard Supporter
    https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/463307-solomon-these-once-secret-memos-cast-doubt-on-joe-bidens-ukraine-story?amp

    Biden probably has no problem watching Zelensky fall get his head chopped off.

    It was Zelensky who is investigating the firing of the former head prosecutor that was leading the probe on corruption with Hunter and Burisma.

    You know, the guy who Biden bragged about getting fired.

  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    thechatch said:

    https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/463307-solomon-these-once-secret-memos-cast-doubt-on-joe-bidens-ukraine-story?amp

    Biden probably has no problem watching Zelensky fall get his head chopped off.

    It was Zelensky who is investigating the firing of the former head prosecutor that was leading the probe on corruption with Hunter and Burisma.

    You know, the guy who Biden bragged about getting fired.

    But hhusky is really, really mad that you bring that topic up. You just can't! It's not relevant at all.
  • MelloDawg
    MelloDawg Member Posts: 6,852
    edited February 2022
    thechatch said:

    https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/463307-solomon-these-once-secret-memos-cast-doubt-on-joe-bidens-ukraine-story?amp

    Biden probably has no problem watching Zelensky fall get his head chopped off.

    It was Zelensky who is investigating the firing of the former head prosecutor that was leading the probe on corruption with Hunter and Burisma.

    You know, the guy who Biden bragged about getting fired.

    Wasn’t it Trump who withhel $400 million in military aid from Zelensky though? I think it was Trump who withheld $400 million in military aid.

    $400 million in military aid sounds helpful.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    MelloDawg said:

    thechatch said:

    https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/463307-solomon-these-once-secret-memos-cast-doubt-on-joe-bidens-ukraine-story?amp

    Biden probably has no problem watching Zelensky fall get his head chopped off.

    It was Zelensky who is investigating the firing of the former head prosecutor that was leading the probe on corruption with Hunter and Burisma.

    You know, the guy who Biden bragged about getting fired.

    Wasn’t it Trump who withheld $400 million in military aid from Zelensky though? I think it was Trump who withheld $400 million in military aid.

    $400 million in military aid sounds helpful.
    Did they ever get the military aid? Did you complain when Biden/Obama only sent them MRE's and blankets? Will you now run and hide like a Kunt?