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hardhat
hardhat Member Posts: 8,344
I thought that being liberal meant having values that cared about individual freedom and liberty. I thought being liberal meant we cared about governments and corporations having too much power. I thought it meant giving a voice to the voiceless, taking unpopular stances and even siding with those who you hated if their rights were being trampled.

Today apparently this is what it means:


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  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,427 Founders Club
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    hardhat said:

    I thought that being liberal meant having values that cared about individual freedom and liberty. I thought being liberal meant we cared about governments and corporations having too much power. I thought it meant giving a voice to the voiceless, taking unpopular stances and even siding with those who you hated if their rights were being trampled.

    Today apparently this is what it means:


    @Kobe. @MellowDawg.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,427 Founders Club
    46XiJCAB said:

    hardhat said:

    I thought that being liberal meant having values that cared about individual freedom and liberty. I thought being liberal meant we cared about governments and corporations having too much power. I thought it meant giving a voice to the voiceless, taking unpopular stances and even siding with those who you hated if their rights were being trampled.

    Today apparently this is what it means:


    @Kobe. @MellowDawg.
    53 seconds


    @PurpleBaze
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,543 Standard Supporter

    Us classical liberals haven’t moved.

    They just became conservatives. At best "conservative" dems were private and public union shills and were never classical liberals. The word "liberal" just got co-opted by leftard fascists. It worked so well, that leftards have pretty much abandoned the term due to its strong negative reaction with voters and are now "progressives". Of course asking a progressive about why their ideas are all fascistic is like asking the slobberer to define black.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    They got old and evil obv
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Us classical liberals haven’t moved.

    They just became conservatives. At best "conservative" dems were private and public union shills and were never classical liberals. The word "liberal" just got co-opted by leftard fascists. It worked so well, that leftards have pretty much abandoned the term due to its strong negative reaction with voters and are now "progressives". Of course asking a progressive about why their ideas are all fascistic is like asking the slobberer to define black.
    Classical liberals aren’t conservatives. HTH
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member Posts: 8,145

    Us classical liberals haven’t moved.

    They just became conservatives. At best "conservative" dems were private and public union shills and were never classical liberals. The word "liberal" just got co-opted by leftard fascists. It worked so well, that leftards have pretty much abandoned the term due to its strong negative reaction with voters and are now "progressives". Of course asking a progressive about why their ideas are all fascistic is like asking the slobberer to define black.
    Classical liberals aren’t conservatives. HTH
    What's a conservative?
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    RoadTrip said:

    Us classical liberals haven’t moved.

    They just became conservatives. At best "conservative" dems were private and public union shills and were never classical liberals. The word "liberal" just got co-opted by leftard fascists. It worked so well, that leftards have pretty much abandoned the term due to its strong negative reaction with voters and are now "progressives". Of course asking a progressive about why their ideas are all fascistic is like asking the slobberer to define black.
    Classical liberals aren’t conservatives. HTH
    What's a conservative?
    A classical liberal that’s uncomfortable with how conservative they’ve gotten in old age.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited February 2022

    RoadTrip said:

    Us classical liberals haven’t moved.

    They just became conservatives. At best "conservative" dems were private and public union shills and were never classical liberals. The word "liberal" just got co-opted by leftard fascists. It worked so well, that leftards have pretty much abandoned the term due to its strong negative reaction with voters and are now "progressives". Of course asking a progressive about why their ideas are all fascistic is like asking the slobberer to define black.
    Classical liberals aren’t conservatives. HTH
    What's a conservative?
    A classical liberal that’s uncomfortable with how conservative they’ve gotten in old age.
    Dim bulb heard from.

    You didn’t even know what classical liberalism is until 10 minutes ago and since then all you know is what is in Wikipedia.
  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    What's a progressive?
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    hardhat said:

    What's a progressive?




  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344

    hardhat said:

    What's a progressive?




    copypasta?
  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    These are progressives



    Progressives can also be found demanding kids to be masked, schools to be closed, police departments to be defunded, asking for all crimes under $1000 to be unprosecutable, and doing fun things like dressing up in black and trying to harass former chief of police of Seattle Carmen Best at her home. Just a lovable, smart bunch of folks with all the good ideas.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    hardhat said:

    What's a progressive?




    Obama fixed this with the ACA. Move on. The Messiah worked his magic.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    hardhat said:

    These are progressives



    Progressives can also be found demanding kids to be masked, schools to be closed, police departments to be defunded, asking for all crimes under $1000 to be unprosecutable, and doing fun things like dressing up in black and trying to harass former chief of police of Seattle Carmen Best at her home. Just a lovable, smart bunch of folks with all the good ideas.
    It requires a special kind of gullible fool to believe any of those people on the street want to be anywhere where they have to obey rules.
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member Posts: 8,145
    hardhat said:

    What's a progressive?

    A progressive is a Marxist. I guess my take on a classical liberal is someone who had issues with governments imposing their wills upon people. I would say these people questioned authority in general. Most of them believed people were free to live their lives as they chose. However, over time, many of these people stopped questioning the expanse and largesse of government. I'm sure I've missed additional characteristics but I'd like someone to define a conservative.
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member Posts: 8,145
    hardhat said:

    These are progressives



    Progressives can also be found demanding kids to be masked, schools to be closed, police departments to be defunded, asking for all crimes under $1000 to be unprosecutable, and doing fun things like dressing up in black and trying to harass former chief of police of Seattle Carmen Best at her home. Just a lovable, smart bunch of folks with all the good ideas.
    So Marxists
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,543 Standard Supporter

    Us classical liberals haven’t moved.

    They just became conservatives. At best "conservative" dems were private and public union shills and were never classical liberals. The word "liberal" just got co-opted by leftard fascists. It worked so well, that leftards have pretty much abandoned the term due to its strong negative reaction with voters and are now "progressives". Of course asking a progressive about why their ideas are all fascistic is like asking the slobberer to define black.
    Classical liberals aren’t conservatives. HTH
    I'm pretty much a classic liberal and I'm a conservative. If they aren't conservative, then we obviously have a different definition of conservatism.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited February 2022

    Us classical liberals haven’t moved.

    They just became conservatives. At best "conservative" dems were private and public union shills and were never classical liberals. The word "liberal" just got co-opted by leftard fascists. It worked so well, that leftards have pretty much abandoned the term due to its strong negative reaction with voters and are now "progressives". Of course asking a progressive about why their ideas are all fascistic is like asking the slobberer to define black.
    Classical liberals aren’t conservatives. HTH
    I'm pretty much a classic liberal and I'm a conservative. If they aren't conservative, then we obviously have a different definition of conservatism.
    No, then you don’t know what a classical liberal is.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,886

    Us classical liberals haven’t moved.

    They just became conservatives. At best "conservative" dems were private and public union shills and were never classical liberals. The word "liberal" just got co-opted by leftard fascists. It worked so well, that leftards have pretty much abandoned the term due to its strong negative reaction with voters and are now "progressives". Of course asking a progressive about why their ideas are all fascistic is like asking the slobberer to define black.
    Classical liberals aren’t conservatives. HTH
    I'm pretty much a classic liberal and I'm a conservative. If they aren't conservative, then we obviously have a different definition of conservatism.
    No, then you don’t know what a classical liberal is.
    It's not an Austrian anarchist, Mike.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    Us classical liberals haven’t moved.

    They just became conservatives. At best "conservative" dems were private and public union shills and were never classical liberals. The word "liberal" just got co-opted by leftard fascists. It worked so well, that leftards have pretty much abandoned the term due to its strong negative reaction with voters and are now "progressives". Of course asking a progressive about why their ideas are all fascistic is like asking the slobberer to define black.
    Classical liberals aren’t conservatives. HTH
    I'm pretty much a classic liberal and I'm a conservative. If they aren't conservative, then we obviously have a different definition of conservatism.
    HRYK.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    HHusky said:

    Us classical liberals haven’t moved.

    They just became conservatives. At best "conservative" dems were private and public union shills and were never classical liberals. The word "liberal" just got co-opted by leftard fascists. It worked so well, that leftards have pretty much abandoned the term due to its strong negative reaction with voters and are now "progressives". Of course asking a progressive about why their ideas are all fascistic is like asking the slobberer to define black.
    Classical liberals aren’t conservatives. HTH
    I'm pretty much a classic liberal and I'm a conservative. If they aren't conservative, then we obviously have a different definition of conservatism.
    No, then you don’t know what a classical liberal is.
    It's not an Austrian anarchist, Mike.
    No shit dumbfuck.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Us classical liberals haven’t moved.

    They just became conservatives. At best "conservative" dems were private and public union shills and were never classical liberals. The word "liberal" just got co-opted by leftard fascists. It worked so well, that leftards have pretty much abandoned the term due to its strong negative reaction with voters and are now "progressives". Of course asking a progressive about why their ideas are all fascistic is like asking the slobberer to define black.
    Classical liberals aren’t conservatives. HTH
    I'm pretty much a classic liberal and I'm a conservative. If they aren't conservative, then we obviously have a different definition of conservatism.
    HRYK.
    Add the dim bulb TKS to the list of those who don’t know the deference. It’s not that hard to figure out.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    Us classical liberals haven’t moved.

    They just became conservatives. At best "conservative" dems were private and public union shills and were never classical liberals. The word "liberal" just got co-opted by leftard fascists. It worked so well, that leftards have pretty much abandoned the term due to its strong negative reaction with voters and are now "progressives". Of course asking a progressive about why their ideas are all fascistic is like asking the slobberer to define black.
    Classical liberals aren’t conservatives. HTH
    I'm pretty much a classic liberal and I'm a conservative. If they aren't conservative, then we obviously have a different definition of conservatism.
    HRYK.
    Add the dim bulb TKS to the list of those who don’t know the deference. It’s not that hard to figure out.
    The difference between you two is @WestlinnDuck embraces who he is. You’re still pretending you’re that college kid that tried weed once and experimented with your roommate.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    hardhat said:

    What's a progressive?




    Because nothing says you care more than spending money on programs of "social uplift." Who gives a fuck if they work or not or if they make the problem worse it's all about spending money on "social uplift."

    Go ahead Kobe, identify for us some of these "social uplift" programs we just don't currently spend enough money on.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited February 2022

    Us classical liberals haven’t moved.

    They just became conservatives. At best "conservative" dems were private and public union shills and were never classical liberals. The word "liberal" just got co-opted by leftard fascists. It worked so well, that leftards have pretty much abandoned the term due to its strong negative reaction with voters and are now "progressives". Of course asking a progressive about why their ideas are all fascistic is like asking the slobberer to define black.
    Classical liberals aren’t conservatives. HTH
    I'm pretty much a classic liberal and I'm a conservative. If they aren't conservative, then we obviously have a different definition of conservatism.
    HRYK.
    Add the dim bulb TKS to the list of those who don’t know the deference. It’s not that hard to figure out.
    The difference between you two is @WestlinnDuck embraces who he is. You’re still pretending you’re that college kid that tried weed once and experimented with your roommate.
    Maybe you can look it up on Wikipedia so you'll understand. That seems to be your main source of knowledge. Dim bulb
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    HHusky said:

    Us classical liberals haven’t moved.

    They just became conservatives. At best "conservative" dems were private and public union shills and were never classical liberals. The word "liberal" just got co-opted by leftard fascists. It worked so well, that leftards have pretty much abandoned the term due to its strong negative reaction with voters and are now "progressives". Of course asking a progressive about why their ideas are all fascistic is like asking the slobberer to define black.
    Classical liberals aren’t conservatives. HTH
    I'm pretty much a classic liberal and I'm a conservative. If they aren't conservative, then we obviously have a different definition of conservatism.
    No, then you don’t know what a classical liberal is.
    It's not an Austrian anarchist, Mike.
    Shitty human being says what?