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LONG brutal article on our current foreign policy mess...

HoustonHusky
HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,000
Long read, but good.

commentarymagazine.com/article/the-meltdown/

BTW...was at that 7-1 game. Nutz.

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  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    That's your source?
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    The author is plainly uncomfortable with a man of color being President.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited August 2014
    Well written article. But most people would rather hear a few sound bites than spend the time to actually understand shit.

    Hi OBK!!
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,112 Founders Club

    Well written article. But most people would rather hear a few sound bites than spend the time to actually understand shit.

    Hi OBK!!

    Bush lied, people died
    No justice, no peace
    1,2,3,4 we won't fight your fucking war
    Kill the ragheads
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,532 Founders Club
    We're here, we're queer, and we want Mora as the Husky coach! (circa 2007)
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Well written article. But most people would rather hear a few sound bites than spend the time to actually understand shit.

    Hi OBK!!

    Bush lied, people died
    No justice, no peace
    1,2,3,4 we won't fight your fucking war
    Kill the ragheads
    Know justice, know peace.

  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Good read and did a very good job at condensing everything down. It is really astonishing how people don't realize how badly Obama has fucked us over internationally.

    But the Bush Doctrine!!!!
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208

    tldr

    too stupid, couldn't read?

  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    edited August 2014

    tldr

    too stupid, couldn't read?

    I think it is more along the lines of doesn't want to read the truth. It is like the lump on the breast that all of a sudden has "always been there, not an issue".
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,401
    The Libertarian in me wants to GTFO in all facets but the practical side says to work with the non-crazies in the region (the Kurds, Israel, and......oh wait that's about it). I wish the Germans would sack up and carry more of the load but they continue to hide behind American power.

    Lower oil prices would take the sting out of a lot of the wallets of the crazies who fund the crazies who do the fighting.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited August 2014
    HFNY said:

    The Libertarian in me wants to GTFO in all facets but the practical side says to work with the non-crazies in the region (the Kurds, Israel, and......oh wait that's about it). I wish the Germans would sack up and carry more of the load but they continue to hide behind American power.

    Allowing German power to be unleashed might not be the best thing to do. Having them as a little brother keeps them under control and allows us to sublimate their tendency to want to dominate everything around them geopolitically. It also enhances the perception of our status as a superpower to have such a powerful country stuffed in our back pocket.
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,401
    Decent point though I wasn't thinking that they would be "unleashed". Special forces would be nice so that our's don't get too strained or they could chip in some billions to fund the Peshmerga. Heck, since we're still running massive deficits, they could even throw the billions our way for us to disperse.

    HFNY said:

    The Libertarian in me wants to GTFO in all facets but the practical side says to work with the non-crazies in the region (the Kurds, Israel, and......oh wait that's about it). I wish the Germans would sack up and carry more of the load but they continue to hide behind American power.

    Allowing German power to be unleashed might not be the best thing to do. Having them as a little brother keeps them under control and allows us to sublimate their tendency to want to dominate everything around them geopolitically. It also enhances the perception of our status as a superpower to have such a powerful country stuffed in our back pocket.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    HFNY said:

    The Libertarian in me wants to GTFO in all facets but the practical side says to work with the non-crazies in the region (the Kurds, Israel, and......oh wait that's about it). I wish the Germans would sack up and carry more of the load but they continue to hide behind American power.

    Lower oil prices would take the sting out of a lot of the wallets of the crazies who fund the crazies who do the fighting.

    What about oil priced in rubles/yuan?
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,401
    Oil is globally priced in dollars (like a lot of commodities). The Chinese are hoping to get some commodities eventually priced in yuan but I don't see that happening, at least in the next few years.

    With the USA ending tapering and then likely to raise rates in early / mid 2015 and the Chinese growth slowing (as well as having a population aging much faster than our's), I see the yuan weakening relative to the dollar. I'm not a FX trader though.

    HFNY said:

    The Libertarian in me wants to GTFO in all facets but the practical side says to work with the non-crazies in the region (the Kurds, Israel, and......oh wait that's about it). I wish the Germans would sack up and carry more of the load but they continue to hide behind American power.

    Lower oil prices would take the sting out of a lot of the wallets of the crazies who fund the crazies who do the fighting.

    What about oil priced in rubles/yuan?
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,401
    No I read ZH but I don't see it materially affecting anything much over the next few years. Of the top 15 economies in the world, nearly all are solid American allies and it appears that the Bernanke / Wall Street / Obama / Yellen cabal is mostly finished devaluing the dollar (which partially created the incentive for other countries to seek currency agreements with China).

    Russia may not even be in the top 10 of countries by GDP anymore since their economy is contracting and if the dollar continues to strengthen, lower oil and nat gas prices will hurt them even more. China is undoubtedly a power but as noted before, their growth is slowing and the bill for their aging population will be increasing since their working age population peaked in 2010:

    icis.com/blogs/asian-chemical-connections/2014/05/demographics-guarantee-china-property-crisis/

    I can't blame China and other countries not in the USA orbit for seeking out currency swap agreements but if we get a new president willing to tackle the structural problems in the USA (corporate tax reform, personal income tax reform, consolidating poverty programs and / or giving more power to the states, etc etc), our economy will become stronger and so will the dollar.




  • jecornel
    jecornel Member Posts: 9,737
    one day you will be dead, and none of this will have mattered....moveon.org
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    jecornel said:

    one day you will be dead, and none of this will have mattered....moveon.org

    classic libtard response
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    edited August 2014
    jecornel said:

    one day you will be dead, and none of this will have mattered....moveon.org

    I can say the same thing about the environment or Iraq.

    I guess stuff like this only matters when it affects you... Pretty selfish world view, if true.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,126 Standard Supporter
    HFNY said:

    The Libertarian in me wants to GTFO in all facets but the practical side says to work with the non-crazies in the region (the Kurds, Israel, and......oh wait that's about it). I wish the Germans would sack up and carry more of the load but they continue to hide behind American power.

    Lower oil prices would take the sting out of a lot of the wallets of the crazies who fund the crazies who do the fighting.

    The Germans are 0-2 since 1914 but covered the halftime prop bet in each contest.


  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,112 Founders Club
    Down goes Libya
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club

    HFNY said:

    The Libertarian in me wants to GTFO in all facets but the practical side says to work with the non-crazies in the region (the Kurds, Israel, and......oh wait that's about it). I wish the Germans would sack up and carry more of the load but they continue to hide behind American power.

    Lower oil prices would take the sting out of a lot of the wallets of the crazies who fund the crazies who do the fighting.

    The Germans are 0-2 since 1914 but covered the halftime prop bet in each contest.


    Gotta stop scheduling ranked powerhouses like the US and England.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    PurpleJ said:

    HFNY said:

    The Libertarian in me wants to GTFO in all facets but the practical side says to work with the non-crazies in the region (the Kurds, Israel, and......oh wait that's about it). I wish the Germans would sack up and carry more of the load but they continue to hide behind American power.

    Lower oil prices would take the sting out of a lot of the wallets of the crazies who fund the crazies who do the fighting.

    The Germans are 0-2 since 1914 but covered the halftime prop bet in each contest.


    Gotta stop scheduling ranked powerhouses like the US and England.
    Anytime you fight in Russia in December is special.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,112 Founders Club
    Germany loses world wars but dominates world soccer

    Coincidence?
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited August 2014
    PurpleJ said:

    HFNY said:

    The Libertarian in me wants to GTFO in all facets but the practical side says to work with the non-crazies in the region (the Kurds, Israel, and......oh wait that's about it). I wish the Germans would sack up and carry more of the load but they continue to hide behind American power.

    Lower oil prices would take the sting out of a lot of the wallets of the crazies who fund the crazies who do the fighting.

    The Germans are 0-2 since 1914 but covered the halftime prop bet in each contest.


    Gotta stop scheduling ranked powerhouses like the US and England.
    Germans are like FSU and Ohio State. They schedule creampuffs like France, Benelux and Poland during the regular season. By the time they get to the end of the season with a stainless record, they get slammed by SEC champion Russia and the US and England from the PAC.