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OFFICIAL Ohio State vs. Utah Rose Bowl Game Thread
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Oregon played bend but don’t break and got stops on 4th down (iirc osu had 3-4 drives into Oregon territory they went for it and didn’t get it); Utah didn’t. Oregon definitely benefited from playing stroud early on when he didn’t quite have his reads down yet. He was unstoppable yesterdayhaie said:
tOSU is a terrible matchup for Utah in every scenario because they recruit to throwing the ball, and Utah gives up the intermediate pass on defense. They start a guy from UW (a secondary team) that ran him off. Imagine that guy now playing man.
Oregon had enough talent in the secondary to slow them down. They still got pretty lucky, start of the year.
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Losing by 1 score in the RB to AN Ohio state team is not a program killer. Now back to drama club with youcreepycoug said:
Lolz. Pressing. The problem wasn’t the running game.
Imagine the Rose Bowl game, and then imagine instead of Utah it was Oregon and everything else is the same. Now let’s go through the “ but but but” shit and tell me how that goes over with you.
Fuck it. I showed some compassion; I now take it back. Utah played over their heads and when it mattered Buck bent Ute over. And the expected outcome came to fruition as expected.
Fuck off Ute and your minions. The program is dead and has no future. Games like that are program killers. Go back to the shitty conference from whence you came. -
😂Canadawg said:
Losing by 1 score in the RB to AN Ohio state team is not a program killer. Now back to drama club with you
They scored -4 the first time, then skulled by Hebert or whoever the second time, then they benefited from a historically bad Pac this year, just to get to the rose.
They know they're aren't getting these kinds of opportunities every year and Whittingham is close to retiring.
They care. That much is true. They won't get walked all over in the South but this could be their only rose bowl ever. -
True, things lined up nicely and SC will be better but Utahs trajectory as a program is arguably the best in the nation over the past dozen years or so. Probably will hire from within with a non-Lake as well.haie said:
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They scored -4 the first time, then skulled by Hebert or whoever the second time, then they benefited from a historically bad Pac this year, just to get to the rose.
They know they're aren't getting these kinds of opportunities every year and Whittingham is close to retiring.
They care. That much is true. They won't get walked all over in the South but this could be their only rose bowl ever. -
This isn't directed at me, I agree with everything you say except for the last line. If you think that these kind of games are program killers for Utah you haven't been paying attention. 2018 conference championship game, same type of game as this Rose Bowl, laid the foundation to win the conference on the third try. Son, it's called the Utah way.creepycoug said:
Lolz. Pressing. The problem wasn’t the running game.
Imagine the Rose Bowl game, and then imagine instead of Utah it was Oregon and everything else is the same. Now let’s go through the “ but but but” shit and tell me how that goes over with you.
Fuck it. I showed some compassion; I now take it back. Utah played over their heads and when it mattered Buck bent Ute over. And the expected outcome came to fruition as expected.
Fuck off Ute and your minions. The program is dead and has no future. Games like that are program killers. Go back to the shitty conference from whence you came.
Not shocked we lost this RB. It stings because it was an opportunity to actually get one. We needed an uninterested, missing 4 NFL players type of OSU to steal one from them. OSU at full strength with something to play for would have blown us off the field.
Yes @MikeDamone that's US. Us, we, I enjoy being part of something. Put a little skin in the game and live life instead of watching it go by, leaving you bitter and empty. -
Jesus Fucking Christ.Canadawg said:
Losing by 1 score in the RB to AN Ohio state team is not a program killer. Now back to drama club with you -
It was not meant as a serious comment.89ute said:
This isn't directed at me, I agree with everything you say except for the last line. If you think that these kind of games are program killers for Utah you haven't been paying attention. 2018 conference championship game, same type of game as this Rose Bowl, laid the foundation to win the conference on the third try. Son, it's called the Utah way.
Not shocked we lost this RB. It stings because it was an opportunity to actually get one. We needed an uninterested, missing 4 NFL players type of OSU to steal one from them. OSU at full strength with something to play for would have blown us off the field.
Yes @MikeDamone that's US. Us, we, I enjoy being part of something. Put a little skin in the game and live life instead of watching it go by, leaving you bitter and empty. -
Canadawg said:
True, things lined up nicely and SC will be better but Utahs trajectory as a program is arguably the best in the nation over the past dozen years or so. Probably will hire from within with a non-Lake as well.
I realize that Ute beating Oregon twice made temporary fan boys out of some of the local doogery, but try and control yourself.
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Exactly. This was their shot. Lost a few pac 12 championship games, finally got there,then shit the bed. Wittingham is long in the tooth. This was the pinnacle. It’s a few season decline to 5-7. Simple fact.haie said:
Ehh these are the kinds of games teams don't come back from. Lloyd is gone next year, Whittingham maybe has one more season left.
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One thing we know is the current Oregon team can beat the current tOSU team.creepycoug said:
Lolz. Pressing. The problem wasn’t the running game.
Imagine the Rose Bowl game, and then imagine instead of Utah it was Oregon and everything else is the same. Now let’s go through the “ but but but” shit and tell me how that goes over with you.
Fuck it. I showed some compassion; I now take it back. Utah played over their heads and when it mattered Buck bent Ute over. And the expected outcome came to fruition as expected.
Fuck off Ute and your minions. The program is dead and has no future. Games like that are program killers. Go back to the shitty conference from whence you came. -
They’re likely the favorite to win the conference next year. It’s not doom and gloom unless you’re a huge pussy.MikeDamone said:
Exactly. This was their shot. Lost a few pac 12 championship games, finally got there,then shit the bed. Wittingham is long in the tooth. This was the pinnacle. It’s a few season decline to 5-7. Simple fact. -
Utah lost to BYU, SDSU, and OSU. Let that sink in.Kingdome_Urinals said:
I mean, duh, tOSU has a better roster but keep in mind they lost at home to Oregon with all their wrs, who got blown out twice in a row by Utah. It’s a bunch of teams that are not that great.
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@89ute JFC. Uoog defined. I’ve been to 6 rose bowls and I don’t even know how many other bowls games. Been to every pac 12 stadium multiple times (including rice-Eccles watching covey damn near end up in a wheel chair) and many other places. Note Dame, Nebraska, Oklahoma,Miami,LSU…etc89ute said:
This isn't directed at me, I agree with everything you say except for the last line. If you think that these kind of games are program killers for Utah you haven't been paying attention. 2018 conference championship game, same type of game as this Rose Bowl, laid the foundation to win the conference on the third try. Son, it's called the Utah way.
Not shocked we lost this RB. It stings because it was an opportunity to actually get one. We needed an uninterested, missing 4 NFL players type of OSU to steal one from them. OSU at full strength with something to play for would have blown us off the field.
Yes @MikeDamone that's US. Us, we, I enjoy being part of something. Put a little skin in the game and live life instead of watching it go by, leaving you bitter and empty.
So go fuck yourself with your “put a little skin in the game and live life”. Each shit and a bag a dicks Johnny come lately. -
They will be on a slide. Being the favorite to win the pac 12 preseason next year is the tallest midget in the circus. Do they play San Diego state again? To think they are building to something bigger is idiotic fan speakAtomicDawg said:
They’re likely the favorite to win the conference next year. It’s not doom and gloom unless you’re a huge pussy. -
creepycoug said:
I realize that Ute beating Oregon twice made temporary fan boys out of some of the local doogery, but try and control yourself.
Cold hard facts. That's called smooth sustained growth. You might be unfamiliar with that. -
Their resume is 100% twice thunder fucking an Oregon team that was falling apart at the seems. Meat's head was already in South Beach, the players had likely found out about it and were like, fuck it then, and he and his staff refused to put a non-retard QB on the field.MikeDamone said:
Utah lost to BYU, SDSU, and OSU. Let that sink in.
If we're going to talk about dead running backs, we can play these games all day long. Let's see if Ute can defend the pass next season. If they can't, they're going to get Lincoln Riley'd in the ass; moreover, I predict both Oregon and Washington will be better teams next year.
They gave it their absolute best shot and lost to a team that was still thinking about Michigan for the first 1/2 and playing without several starters and contributors on both sides of the ball. And Buck shit away two TDs in the red zone and were marching before 1/2 time only to blow the clock.
For those of you newly minted Ute fans, again, I challenge you to pretend that was Oregon against Buck yesterday and proceed accordingly with your analysis.
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So. They lost to Oregon fucking Statecreepycoug said:
Their resume is 100% twice thunder fucking an Oregon team that was falling apart at the seems. Meat's head was already in South Beach, the players had likely found out about it and were like, fuck it then, and he and his staff refused to put a non-retard QB on the field.
If we're going to talk about dead running backs, we can play these games all day long. Let's see if Ute can defend the pass next season. If they can't, they're going to get Lincoln Riley'd in the ass; moreover, I predict both Oregon and Washington will be better teams next year.
They gave it their absolute best shot and lost to a team that was still thinking about Michigan for the first 1/2 and playing without several starters and contributors on both sides of the ball. And Buck shit away two TDs in the red zone and were marching before 1/2 time only to blow the clock.
For those of you newly minted Ute fans, again, I challenge you to pretend that was Oregon against Buck yesterday and proceed accordingly with your analysis.
Let the 2022 shit talk begin. -
I can never remember what team creep is a fan of. Hard to understand the angle of this meltdown without that info
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That's the difference between you and me. I call them like I see them. You call them like a doog. If Oregon had played that exactly game yesterday I could pretty much write your posts for you.Canadawg said:I can never remember what team creep is a fan of. Hard to understand the angle of this meltdown without that info
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So, if ...Canadawg said:
Cold hard facts. That's called smooth sustained growth. You might be unfamiliar with that.
8, 5, 5, 9, 10, 9, 7, 9, 11 and 10 win seasons in the Pac 12 with bowl victories in the Sun, two Vegas, a Foster Farms and a Heart of Dallas Bowl and losses in the Holiday, Alamo and Rose bowls translates to:
"Utahs trajectory as a program is arguably the best in the nation over the past dozen years or so"
for you, then please stay on your side of the stadium.
What it says to me, especially given the history of the division in which they play, is stable program with stable good but not great coaching. A HC who either doesn't have what it takes to play big OR is at a place where he's doing the most that can be done with what's there. Either way, "best trajectory in the nation" is not what comes to mind.
Maybe you got carried away with your drafting or English isn't your first language. Either way, your "cold hard facts" fell flat.
That's not a meltdown my struggling Canadian friend. That's me being me. Take or leave it. IDGAF. -
He's a Uoog. Factcreepycoug said:
So, if ...
8, 5, 5, 9, 10, 9, 7, 9, 11 and 10 win seasons in the Pac 12 with bowl victories in the Sun, two Vegas, a Foster Farms and a Heart of Dallas Bowl and losses in the Holiday, Alamo and Rose bowls translates to:
"Utahs trajectory as a program is arguably the best in the nation over the past dozen years or so"
for you, then please stay on your side of the stadium.
What it says to me is stable program with stable coaching with a consistently good coach who either doesn't have what it takes to play big OR is at a place where he's doing the most that can be done with what's there. Either way, "best trajectory in the nation" is not what comes to mind.
Maybe you got carried away with your drafting or English isn't your first language. Either way, your "cold hard facts" fell flat.
That's not a meltdown my struggling Canadian friend. That's me being me. Take or leave it. IDGAF. -
Lol fucking ruthless in this thred. -
I don’t think they are a great power. But certainly are the tallest midget right now. Especially in the south. That’s what this conference is a bunch of midgets.MikeDamone said:
They will be on a slide. Being the favorite to win the pac 12 preseason next year is the tallest midget in the circus. Do they play San Diego state again? To think they are building to something bigger is idiotic fan speak -
If this somehow translated to massive recruiting and it was still unknown what KW could do with a top 10 or 15 class, then you'd wonder, "hmm, give him another recruiting cycle and let's see." But it probably won't. Yeah they play hard and produce some good players and they're normally not an easy out. And, I started this whole discussion with an acknowledgement that they took their best shot and played out of their minds. But, it's hard to ignore the reality that with everything lined up as good as it's going to get, they lost to a seriously flawed Ohio State team. I give them credit for leaving nothing on the field. But the idea that this is a harbinger of greatness to come is wishful thinking. And they better find a fucking corner back because Riley will have Trojan throwing the ball downfield, and like I said, I have a sneaking suspicion that either or both UW and Duck will be no cake walk next season. So it's not like the conference is gift wrapped for them. Oregon just skull fucked them hard in the P12 CCG a couple of years ago and look where they are now.AtomicDawg said:
I don’t think they are a great power. But certainly are the tallest midget right now. Especially in the south. That’s what this conference is a bunch of midgets.
I don't hate Ute like I do Cuog, so this is a sober take. I wanted them to win frankly because I'm a bit like Woolley on the Big 10 shit (which is more historical bias on my part but whatever). But if this trip to the Rose somehow helps them level up in recruiting, then of course all bets are off. That goes for any program. -
They’re owning their division, not the conference (nobody is) but that’s puts them in the championship game basically every year despite their best offensive player dying. Take out covid 2020 and that’s 3 straight division titles and the favorite to do it again. Usc needs to knock them off first. I don’t think it’s happening next season though. Would be funny if they did it in year one of Riley.creepycoug said:
If this somehow translated to massive recruiting and it was still unknown what KW could do with a top 10 or 15 class, then you'd wonder, "hmm, give him another recruiting cycle and let's see." But it probably won't. Yeah they play hard and produce some good players and they're normally not an easy out. And, I started this whole discussion with an acknowledgement that they took their best shot and played out of their minds. But, it's hard to ignore the reality that with everything lined up as good as it's going to get, they lost to a seriously flawed Ohio State team. I give them credit for leaving nothing on the field. But the idea that this is a harbinger of greatness to come is wishful thinking. And they better find a fucking corner back because Riley will have Trojan throwing the ball downfield, and like I said, I have a sneaking suspicion that either or both UW and Duck will be no cake walk next season. So it's not like the conference is gift wrapped for them. Oregon just skull fucked them hard in the P12 CCG a couple of years ago and look where they are now.
I don't hate Ute like I do Cuog, so this is a sober take. I wanted them to win frankly because I'm a bit like Woolley on the Big 10 shit (which is more historical bias on my part but whatever). But if this trip to the Rose somehow helps them level up in recruiting, then of course all bets are off. That goes for any program. -
Forget the running back dying. Oregon over the last three years is a different team when Verdell is healthy, which was like 30% of the time. They also dealt with injuries on the O line. UW lost ZTF to a likely career limiting injury. Shit happens.AtomicDawg said:
They’re owning their division, not the conference (nobody is) but that’s puts them in the championship game basically every year despite their best offensive player dying. Take out covid 2020 and that’s 3 straight division titles and the favorite to do it again. Usc needs to knock them off first. I don’t think it’s happening next season though. Would be funny if they did it in year one of Riley.
As to the rest, that is my point. USC has been functionally retarded for a while now, Chip has not found the magic at UCLA, Doovil is flawed, Zona is dreck ... at least UW and Oregon have each other with which to contend. So cakewalking to the CCG means what exactly? I listed his bowl record. Since joining the conference they have done exactly shit post-season.
Again, solid program, but I just don't see the Ute love. I'll say it just one more time: Oregon is in that game and we? are in a free for all about how shitty they are and how they couldn't beat a one-legged and drunk Buck unit that didn't want to be there. The Ute affection is entirely wrapped up in what they did to Oregon at the end of the season and because they don't represent a threat to UW, who has never really struggled with them for some odd reason (preferring instead to struggle with Cal, for some even more odd reason).
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Who is loving Utah? They had a shot to beat tOSU and blew it, but the whole thing about tOSU missing some receivers is kind of stupid, a lot of teams are missing players for various reasons.creepycoug said:
Forget the running back dying. Oregon over the last three years is a different team when Verdell is healthy, which was like 30% of the time. They also dealt with injuries on the O line. UW lost ZTF to a likely career limiting injury. Shit happens.
As to the rest, that is my point. USC has been functionally retarded for a while now, Chip has not found the magic at UCLA, Doovil is flawed, Zona is dreck ... at least UW and Oregon have each other with which to contend. So cakewalking to the CCG means what exactly? I listed his bowl record. Since joining the conference they have done exactly shit post-season.
Again, solid program, but I just don't see the Ute love. I'll say it just one more time: Oregon is in that game and we? are in a free for all about how shitty they are and how they couldn't beat a one-legged and drunk Buck unit that didn't want to be there. The Ute affection is entirely wrapped up in what they did to Oregon at the end of the season and because they don't represent a threat to UW, who has never really struggled with them for some odd reason (preferring instead to struggle with Cal, for some even more odd reason).
But, we shall see. I stand be corrected.
And even with their WR's tOSU's defense is awful. Did you see Michigan's offense against Georgia? That offense was worse than UW's in 2016 and they rolled the Buckeyes.
Hating Utah makes you tough today? Whatever works for you. -
Yep, I woke up today and thought that the upside of Ute losing was that it opened up an opportunity to make me tough.
That seems pretty stupid too.
I don't write the stories. Take it up with the media. But going in without your top 2 receivers and two starting corners among others seems like at least a marginally significant point.
Anyway.
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The Pac-12 champion lost to BYU (by 9), San Diego State and an Ohio State team who had their best offensive players sitting out and an atrocious defense. Can we go home now?
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Leave some words for the rest of so you can make a concise and readable point. Writing many words does not equal an effective point my blathering buddy.creepycoug said:
So, if ...
8, 5, 5, 9, 10, 9, 7, 9, 11 and 10 win seasons in the Pac 12 with bowl victories in the Sun, two Vegas, a Foster Farms and a Heart of Dallas Bowl and losses in the Holiday, Alamo and Rose bowls translates to:
"Utahs trajectory as a program is arguably the best in the nation over the past dozen years or so"
for you, then please stay on your side of the stadium.
What it says to me, especially given the history of the division in which they play, is stable program with stable good but not great coaching. A HC who either doesn't have what it takes to play big OR is at a place where he's doing the most that can be done with what's there. Either way, "best trajectory in the nation" is not what comes to mind.
Maybe you got carried away with your drafting or English isn't your first language. Either way, your "cold hard facts" fell flat.
That's not a meltdown my struggling Canadian friend. That's me being me. Take or leave it. IDGAF.
