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haha. so true. Not only do you have poaching of coaches any time of the year. Now you have NIL and transfer portal poaching of players anytime of the year to strengthen your own team or weaken your opponents. This is way worse than imagine. I think we are not giving enough credit for Chris Peterson leaving CFB coaching with the timing that he did. He has a commitment to college education and knew what was about to transpire.Houhusky said:The day when only a few schools can actually run a competitive basketball or football program and all the other college sports disappear without the amateur college football system that propped them up cannot occur fast enough.
The “playoff” system is fucking retarded
The sitting out major games so you don’t get hurt is fucking retarded
The open season on paying players is fucking retarded
The free agency is fucking retarded
The failing upwards incestuous coaches get more retarded every year
There is nothing left to stop the train, the NFL should just start a minor league or euro club system and kill it for good asap. College sports should just disappear and all the dumb fuck athletes that promoted and pushed for this system can see how much support and money their stupid fucking sport NOCs about gets after killing the amateur college basketball and football gravy train with dumb fucking ideas.
So now whenever a high school student commits to a school we can understand as follows:
Public statement:
After carefully discussing with family and friends for the last 3 years, I've decided to continue my education at the University of ________. Thanks to all the coaches who have helped me become the person whom i am today and thanks to coach _____ at the University for believing in me.
Actual:
At this time, based on the NIL offers I've received so far and the amount of potential income I've calculated associate with attending the University of ______. I decided to commit verbally at this time to signing at most a 1 year contract with the stated school. Thanks to all the financial advisors thus far who have help me with this decision so that I can maximize my NIL potential. If in the near future, my performance on the field improves and my NIL prospects improve, I reserve the right to back out of my verbal commitment to sign with aforementioned program before joining the team or during the middle of the season via transfer portal since as we know this contract has nothing to do with getting a continuous education and resulting degree. Thanks to all for playing along in this game and changing the rules to make this chaos possible.
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Can we get back to what a crappy WR coach Adam’s is?
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Average IQ people who work hard can spend 6 months learning javascript, .net, and database management and make $110k a year, at pretty much any age. There's zero reason to play school unless you want to teach, or do a hard science that requires shit only a research U can provide. Or hell, just learn the adobe suite and be a "graphics designer".
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Probably, I don’t really care, if “student” athletes are going to reduce it to all about cold and calculated bidness decisions so can I….BleachedAnusDawg said:
95% of football players will flame out of a minor league system where there's no 4-5 year scholarship commitment. A lot less black males getting college education as a fallback. Literally thousands less college grads every year.Houhusky said:The day when only a few schools can actually run a competitive basketball or football program and all the other college sports disappear without the amateur college football system that propped them up cannot occur fast enough.
The “playoff” system is fucking retarded
The sitting out major games so you don’t get hurt is fucking retarded
The open season on paying players is fucking retarded
The free agency is fucking retarded
The failing upwards incestuous coaches get more retarded every year
There is nothing left to stop the train, the NFL should just start a minor league or euro club system and kill it for good asap. College sports should just disappear and all the dumb fuck athletes that promoted and pushed for this system can see how much support and money their stupid fucking sport NOCs about gets after killing the amateur college basketball and football gravy train with dumb fucking ideas.
So many fucking athletic genetic lotto winning retards don’t understand they are in the entertainment industry and it relies on the irrational expenditure of dollars by people often much poorer than they.
The entitlement, zero loyalty, and sometimes contempt for the customer is not insignificant or sustainable. -
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Yeah, but that is like $5700 in todays money if we adjust for inflation since 1861.RaceBannon said:
I paid 180RTD said:
In the 80’s UW cost $400 a quarter for in state. It pays to be old.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I'm sure he would have been better off taking out $100k of debt to major in gender studies.ntxduck said:
Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, mantheknowledge said:
Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.Emoterman said:theknowledge said:
I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.RaceBannon said:People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program
Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good
The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks
The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table
And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess
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@RaceBannon jokes are so old.Arc said:
Yeah, but that is like $5700 in todays money if we adjust for inflation since 1861.RaceBannon said:
I paid 180RTD said:
In the 80’s UW cost $400 a quarter for in state. It pays to be old.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I'm sure he would have been better off taking out $100k of debt to major in gender studies.ntxduck said:
Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, mantheknowledge said:
Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.Emoterman said:theknowledge said:
I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.RaceBannon said:People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program
Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good
The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks
The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table
And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess -
dtd said:
@RaceBannon jokes are so old.Arc said:
Yeah, but that is like $5700 in todays money if we adjust for inflation since 1861.RaceBannon said:
I paid 180RTD said:
In the 80’s UW cost $400 a quarter for in state. It pays to be old.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I'm sure he would have been better off taking out $100k of debt to major in gender studies.ntxduck said:
Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, mantheknowledge said:
Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.Emoterman said:theknowledge said:
I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.RaceBannon said:People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program
Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good
The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks
The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table
And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess
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Dante’s weekly bill > UW tuition.RaceBannon said:
I paid 180RTD said:
In the 80’s UW cost $400 a quarter for in state. It pays to be old.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I'm sure he would have been better off taking out $100k of debt to major in gender studies.ntxduck said:
Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, mantheknowledge said:
Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.Emoterman said:theknowledge said:
I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.RaceBannon said:People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program
Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good
The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks
The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table
And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess
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Does that guy have any eligibility left? Seems agile and could be a good slot receiver.LawDawg1 said:dtd said:
@RaceBannon jokes are so old.Arc said:
Yeah, but that is like $5700 in todays money if we adjust for inflation since 1861.RaceBannon said:
I paid 180RTD said:
In the 80’s UW cost $400 a quarter for in state. It pays to be old.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I'm sure he would have been better off taking out $100k of debt to major in gender studies.ntxduck said:
Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, mantheknowledge said:
Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.Emoterman said:theknowledge said:
I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.RaceBannon said:People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program
Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good
The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks
The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table
And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess -
We can’t outbid Oregon’s NIL deal for him.HFNY said:
Does that guy have any eligibility left? Seems agile and could be a good slot receiver.LawDawg1 said:dtd said:
@RaceBannon jokes are so old.Arc said:
Yeah, but that is like $5700 in todays money if we adjust for inflation since 1861.RaceBannon said:
I paid 180RTD said:
In the 80’s UW cost $400 a quarter for in state. It pays to be old.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I'm sure he would have been better off taking out $100k of debt to major in gender studies.ntxduck said:
Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, mantheknowledge said:
Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.Emoterman said:theknowledge said:
I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.RaceBannon said:People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program
Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good
The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks
The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table
And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess -
With those hips? He's a corner.HFNY said:
Does that guy have any eligibility left? Seems agile and could be a good slot receiver.LawDawg1 said:dtd said:
@RaceBannon jokes are so old.Arc said:
Yeah, but that is like $5700 in todays money if we adjust for inflation since 1861.RaceBannon said:
I paid 180RTD said:
In the 80’s UW cost $400 a quarter for in state. It pays to be old.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I'm sure he would have been better off taking out $100k of debt to major in gender studies.ntxduck said:
Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, mantheknowledge said:
Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.Emoterman said:theknowledge said:
I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.RaceBannon said:People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program
Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good
The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks
The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table
And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess -
I see all these new posts about Junior Adams and I’m relieved to see that it’s just hot talk on the value of a college degree.
Oh no - wait... Oregon hired him? Well. Fuck. Why would we(?) want him(?)
My two thoughts:
1. A college degree is definitely worth it. Even if we forego all the non-tangible benefits of college and just use the raw averages readily available - with the hypothetical $100k of debt, it’s worth it. Unless you plan on living under ~12 years after graduation. Save your outlier examples, we do averages like civilized people.
2. Some of Lanning’s hires don’t make sense. But after Scott Frost all of Oregon’s WR coaches have been shitty, he’s the sixth one since 2016, so it might not matter. If he’s shitty like the rest have been at least its another notch on Oregon’s dicking-of-other-Pac-12-schools belt and a step up from hiring away Leach’s assistants.
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1. Just not true, not today. Using averages from 2 decades ago when people made money writing for newspapers makes no sense. The cash me ousside girl made a million in a weekend showing her meth boobs. Trade schools make way more sense for the vast majority of people.RatherBeBrewing said:I see all these new posts about Junior Adams and I’m relieved to see that it’s just hot talk on the value of a college degree.
Oh no - wait... Oregon hired him? Well. Fuck. Why would we(?) want him(?)
My two thoughts:
1. A college degree is definitely worth it. Even if we forego all the non-tangible benefits of college and just use the raw averages readily available - with the hypothetical $100k of debt, it’s worth it. Unless you plan on living under ~12 years after graduation. Save your outlier examples, we do averages like civilized people.
2. Some of Lanning’s hires don’t make sense. But after Scott Frost all of Oregon’s WR coaches have been shitty, he’s the sixth one since 2016, so it might not matter. If he’s shitty like the rest have been at least its another notch on Oregon’s dicking-of-other-Pac-12-schools belt and a step up from hiring away Leach’s assistants.
2. Memphis of the West -
I’d take Memphis West over Jimmy Lakes Vanderbilt for Lifedtd said:
1. Just not true, not today. Using averages from 2 decades ago when people made money writing for newspapers makes no sense. The cash me ousside girl made a million in a weekend showing her meth boobs. Trade schools make way more sense for the vast majority of people.RatherBeBrewing said:I see all these new posts about Junior Adams and I’m relieved to see that it’s just hot talk on the value of a college degree.
Oh no - wait... Oregon hired him? Well. Fuck. Why would we(?) want him(?)
My two thoughts:
1. A college degree is definitely worth it. Even if we forego all the non-tangible benefits of college and just use the raw averages readily available - with the hypothetical $100k of debt, it’s worth it. Unless you plan on living under ~12 years after graduation. Save your outlier examples, we do averages like civilized people.
2. Some of Lanning’s hires don’t make sense. But after Scott Frost all of Oregon’s WR coaches have been shitty, he’s the sixth one since 2016, so it might not matter. If he’s shitty like the rest have been at least its another notch on Oregon’s dicking-of-other-Pac-12-schools belt and a step up from hiring away Leach’s assistants.
2. Memphis of the West -
Who's Junior Adams?
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For like 3 years I thought he was one of their? WRs.creepycoug said:Who's Junior Adams?
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Only thing I’ll say about Adams is it’s pretty crazy ones considered “great” recruiters can fail upwards. He was a terrible OC at Western Kentucky and did horrible at UW as WR coach, but here’s 650k and a new job! Congrats Junior!
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asdf
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1. Your observational data aligns with teachers telling kids to learn how to add fractions or they’ll end up as plumbers digging in toilets - but fail to mention that the plumbers make twice as much money as them. However the data I’m referring to is new and shows that based on earnings just two years after graduation 76% of BA/BS degree holders are earning enough to where ten years after graduation they should have recouped their investment.dtd said:
1. Just not true, not today. Using averages from 2 decades ago when people made money writing for newspapers makes no sense. The cash me ousside girl made a million in a weekend showing her meth boobs. Trade schools make way more sense for the vast majority of people.RatherBeBrewing said:I see all these new posts about Junior Adams and I’m relieved to see that it’s just hot talk on the value of a college degree.
Oh no - wait... Oregon hired him? Well. Fuck. Why would we(?) want him(?)
My two thoughts:
1. A college degree is definitely worth it. Even if we forego all the non-tangible benefits of college and just use the raw averages readily available - with the hypothetical $100k of debt, it’s worth it. Unless you plan on living under ~12 years after graduation. Save your outlier examples, we do averages like civilized people.
2. Some of Lanning’s hires don’t make sense. But after Scott Frost all of Oregon’s WR coaches have been shitty, he’s the sixth one since 2016, so it might not matter. If he’s shitty like the rest have been at least its another notch on Oregon’s dicking-of-other-Pac-12-schools belt and a step up from hiring away Leach’s assistants.
2. Memphis of the West
This doesn’t take into account the higher employment rates, health insurance rates, and the rates of not being in poverty. The study is from 2020/21 and didn’t take the rocketing inflation into consideration.
The 24% of those who don’t recoup in ten years should still come out ahead in the long run and the numbers are skewed by more expensive private and for profit institutions. The obvious majors are the ones with poor return: religious studies, anthropology, film, etc.
It’s still true, maybe not as obvious as in the past, but go to a state school and get a degree that isn’t 100% fluff and you’re going to be better off than most people without one.
2. I wish, Memphis had some monster offensive numbers. This feels more like an amalgamation of a watered down, poor man’s Saban/Kirby recruiting wins system, with a strong Jim Mora flavor Jr and Todd Graham aftertaste. -
/shrug
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I'm sure they nailed this one though...LawDawg1 said:So glad UW had the opportunity for hiring Tyrone Willingham, Keith Gilbertson, Sark, and Jimmy Lake. Such solid decision making.
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Quietcowskee said:
Who’s Roi?
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Chico Rolle?HFNY said:
Does that guy have any eligibility left? Seems agile and could be a good slot receiver.LawDawg1 said:dtd said:
@RaceBannon jokes are so old.Arc said:
Yeah, but that is like $5700 in todays money if we adjust for inflation since 1861.RaceBannon said:
I paid 180RTD said:
In the 80’s UW cost $400 a quarter for in state. It pays to be old.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I'm sure he would have been better off taking out $100k of debt to major in gender studies.ntxduck said:
Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, mantheknowledge said:
Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.Emoterman said:theknowledge said:
I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.RaceBannon said:People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program
Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good
The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks
The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table
And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess -
The question is, who do DeBoer / Grubb hire as WR coach now? Is it possible a WR coach can walk (coach) and chew gum (recruit well) at the same time?
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Your head coach is Jedd fucking Fisch.GhostofMosster47 said:
I'm sure they nailed this one though...LawDawg1 said:So glad UW had the opportunity for hiring Tyrone Willingham, Keith Gilbertson, Sark, and Jimmy Lake. Such solid decision making.
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6 months of that, if you didn't spend it building something real world, is still a pretty shitty developer.dtd said:Average IQ people who work hard can spend 6 months learning javascript, .net, and database management and make $110k a year, at pretty much any age. There's zero reason to play school unless you want to teach, or do a hard science that requires shit only a research U can provide. Or hell, just learn the adobe suite and be a "graphics designer".
The bootcamps are much cheaper than college but still mostly a scam that isn't preparing someone to keep their 110k gig for more than 90 days. -
*sighRatherBeBrewing said:
1. Your observational data aligns with teachers telling kids to learn how to add fractions or they’ll end up as plumbers digging in toilets - but fail to mention that the plumbers make twice as much money as them. However the data I’m referring to is new and shows that based on earnings just two years after graduation 76% of BA/BS degree holders are earning enough to where ten years after graduation they should have recouped their investment.dtd said:
1. Just not true, not today. Using averages from 2 decades ago when people made money writing for newspapers makes no sense. The cash me ousside girl made a million in a weekend showing her meth boobs. Trade schools make way more sense for the vast majority of people.RatherBeBrewing said:I see all these new posts about Junior Adams and I’m relieved to see that it’s just hot talk on the value of a college degree.
Oh no - wait... Oregon hired him? Well. Fuck. Why would we(?) want him(?)
My two thoughts:
1. A college degree is definitely worth it. Even if we forego all the non-tangible benefits of college and just use the raw averages readily available - with the hypothetical $100k of debt, it’s worth it. Unless you plan on living under ~12 years after graduation. Save your outlier examples, we do averages like civilized people.
2. Some of Lanning’s hires don’t make sense. But after Scott Frost all of Oregon’s WR coaches have been shitty, he’s the sixth one since 2016, so it might not matter. If he’s shitty like the rest have been at least its another notch on Oregon’s dicking-of-other-Pac-12-schools belt and a step up from hiring away Leach’s assistants.
2. Memphis of the West
This doesn’t take into account the higher employment rates, health insurance rates, and the rates of not being in poverty. The study is from 2020/21 and didn’t take the rocketing inflation into consideration.
The 24% of those who don’t recoup in ten years should still come out ahead in the long run and the numbers are skewed by more expensive private and for profit institutions. The obvious majors are the ones with poor return: religious studies, anthropology, film, etc.
It’s still true, maybe not as obvious as in the past, but go to a state school and get a degree that isn’t 100% fluff and you’re going to be better off than most people without one.
2. I wish, Memphis had some monster offensive numbers. This feels more like an amalgamation of a watered down, poor man’s Saban/Kirby recruiting wins system, with a strong Jim Mora flavor Jr and Todd Graham aftertaste.
Re: data
Yes, let's normalize our inherently non-normal data for kurtosis and skew. The overwhelming majority of wealth made that drives up the averages is made by less than 5% of graduate earners.
Odds are those guys were going to be successful anyways so it's opportunity cost as I mentioned.
Use the mode instead of the mean.
Now reverse the process for non-graduates to adjust for people that college would have never benefited anyways.
Aka you can't fix stupid.
We haven't even talked about market projection and demographics out over tim.
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I was told no stats would be involvedUW_Doog_Bot said:
*sighRatherBeBrewing said:
1. Your observational data aligns with teachers telling kids to learn how to add fractions or they’ll end up as plumbers digging in toilets - but fail to mention that the plumbers make twice as much money as them. However the data I’m referring to is new and shows that based on earnings just two years after graduation 76% of BA/BS degree holders are earning enough to where ten years after graduation they should have recouped their investment.dtd said:
1. Just not true, not today. Using averages from 2 decades ago when people made money writing for newspapers makes no sense. The cash me ousside girl made a million in a weekend showing her meth boobs. Trade schools make way more sense for the vast majority of people.RatherBeBrewing said:I see all these new posts about Junior Adams and I’m relieved to see that it’s just hot talk on the value of a college degree.
Oh no - wait... Oregon hired him? Well. Fuck. Why would we(?) want him(?)
My two thoughts:
1. A college degree is definitely worth it. Even if we forego all the non-tangible benefits of college and just use the raw averages readily available - with the hypothetical $100k of debt, it’s worth it. Unless you plan on living under ~12 years after graduation. Save your outlier examples, we do averages like civilized people.
2. Some of Lanning’s hires don’t make sense. But after Scott Frost all of Oregon’s WR coaches have been shitty, he’s the sixth one since 2016, so it might not matter. If he’s shitty like the rest have been at least its another notch on Oregon’s dicking-of-other-Pac-12-schools belt and a step up from hiring away Leach’s assistants.
2. Memphis of the West
This doesn’t take into account the higher employment rates, health insurance rates, and the rates of not being in poverty. The study is from 2020/21 and didn’t take the rocketing inflation into consideration.
The 24% of those who don’t recoup in ten years should still come out ahead in the long run and the numbers are skewed by more expensive private and for profit institutions. The obvious majors are the ones with poor return: religious studies, anthropology, film, etc.
It’s still true, maybe not as obvious as in the past, but go to a state school and get a degree that isn’t 100% fluff and you’re going to be better off than most people without one.
2. I wish, Memphis had some monster offensive numbers. This feels more like an amalgamation of a watered down, poor man’s Saban/Kirby recruiting wins system, with a strong Jim Mora flavor Jr and Todd Graham aftertaste.
Re: data
Yes, let's normalize our inherently non-normal data for kurtosis and skew. The overwhelming majority of wealth made that drives up the averages is made by less than 5% of graduate earners.
Odds are those guys were going to be successful anyways so it's opportunity cost as I mentioned.
Use the mode instead of the mean.
Now reverse the process for non-graduates to adjust for people that college would have never benefited anyways.
Aka you can't fix stupid.
We haven't even talked about market projection and demographics out over tim.
TLDR YMMV and correlation ain't causation.
