Mario to Miami confirmed
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46XiJCAB said:
His stubbornness extends well beyond AB.creepycoug said:
It's no secret I like Mario. I think you're wrong about him. Helfrich was a shit head coach. Lake was a shit head coach. Mario is a young head coach who has more to learn but definitely has upside. The former think they're cute and funny and know something the rest of us don't know and almost don't take their jobs seriously ... to such an extent that they're unaware of how bad they are. The latter want to be good and can be and legitimately get to work after a game like last night to get better.MikeSeaver said:
Because he’s a shit head coach who’s going to get found out in Florida. Why not stay at a place that looks like they’re willing to hang themselves for you and probably give you 9 million dollars for two years longer than you deserve it. Also, free meth.Swaye said:Mario would be a fool to not go to Miami. What fucking dunce would pick living in Eugene over Miami? I mean seriously. World class city with arts, culture, food, women, weather and entertainment vs a methed out shithole with an Arby's.
His stubborness with A Brown is not something I can explain, but he's not the first HC to go down with his QB. And as others have said, it may say something about what's on the bench too.
He's organized, shoots pretty straight (he takes responsibility and did last night while also acknowledging when they've just been outplayed), brings in talent, and thus far has made pretty good hires. I also thought he handled the Levitt situation like a pro. He's certainly not the whole package yet but he has led your fucking team to a Rose Bowl win, got you ten wins and the North division again this season and it would be monumentally stupid for Oregon to let him go. Just MO. Getting talent in the door is job one and he does that as well as anyone. The rest remains to be seen.
JH willed that team to the RB.
When Beavis and WSU are in contention to share the North crown with Oregon, you
Exactly.dnc said:
Doesn't mean he'll be better though.honeybadger40 said:
Uncle Phil is almost pushing up daisies. He'll go after a big time coach.dnc said:
There's a pretty good argument Cristobal is the second best coach Oregon ever had on a per season basis. I'm comfortable betting their next hire won't be top 2.1to392831weretaken said:
What part of being a Husky football fan has you still believing that we can have nice things?dnc said:Odds are the next coach is worse though.
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Okay the over/under is 5 of youdtd said:
oh come the fuck ondnc said:
You're about the only Quook who hated MC before all this happened so I'll give you props for that.MikeSeaver said:
I wish I could chin this 45 timesdnc said:
Took the twins to school today and Neuheisel and whomever the main host is on ESPNU both said they can’t understand why Miami wants this guy and Oregon shouldn’t pay him anywhere near 8 p/year. “They don’t need him.”
TL,DR: He sucks. Like we’ve been saying.
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My eyes have never seen a more beautiful thing.rodmansrage said:
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Yep. Cristobal 2.0 with elite recruiting and Latino swagger is above average and able to punk a down and out P12, even though serious holes would keep them back.dnc said:
You're about the only Quook who hated MC before all this happened so I'll give you props for that.MikeSeaver said:
I wish I could chin this 45 timesdnc said:
Took the twins to school today and Neuheisel and whomever the main host is on ESPNU both said they can’t understand why Miami wants this guy and Oregon shouldn’t pay him anywhere near 8 p/year. “They don’t need him.”
TL,DR: He sucks. Like we’ve been saying.
Odds are the next coach is worse though.
Popping off is popping off, though. He now has some steak to his sizzle.
Even in this year's collapse, he was able to go into Columbus as an underdog and collect a scalp (a win any program would love to claim) and as a result had them controlling their destiny in the CFP into November.
The next guy is much more likely to be Taggert than Cristo, because as we know "it's hard". -
In fairness he said “about.” There’s room for a few more who knew.dtd said:
oh come the fuck ondnc said:
You're about the only Quook who hated MC before all this happened so I'll give you props for that.MikeSeaver said:
I wish I could chin this 45 timesdnc said:
Took the twins to school today and Neuheisel and whomever the main host is on ESPNU both said they can’t understand why Miami wants this guy and Oregon shouldn’t pay him anywhere near 8 p/year. “They don’t need him.”
TL,DR: He sucks. Like we’ve been saying. -
Same here.creepycoug said:
My eyes have never seen a more beautiful thing.rodmansrage said:
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Yes.Alexis said:
I wonder if UW is still everything that's wrong with college football?rodmansrage said:
better get wilcox inked up before someone else does.
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PasadenaHuskyFan said:
Nah, oregon's little "resurgence" is over. UW will rule the north, USC the south.RatherBeBrewing said:This whole situation has been very entertaining. I am enjoying the schadenfreude. The beauty of college football is false hope and the misery of your neighbor outweighing your own.
I have been mostly neutral, as I know Cristobal is at best an average coach, but a good program CEO and excellent recruiter. He is very replaceable. The damage of having two coaches in a row go back to their ailing momma in Florida and the stability/recruiting damage that entails is obviously less than ideal. The odds of an upgrade and the odds of a program tanker are about equal, I’d say Oregon’s are slightly tilted to being more tank proof but that’s what Nebraska and Tennessee fans thought and they had nattys and stadiums with 100,000 people who cared. -
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They almost paid Cristobal 8mil p/yr. Sounds like he cares, but is also maybe an idiot.HuskyJW said:
I don’t think Phil cares about football like he used tohoneybadger40 said:
Uncle Phil is almost pushing up daisies. He'll go after a big time coach.dnc said:
There's a pretty good argument Cristobal is the second best coach Oregon ever had on a per season basis. I'm comfortable betting their next hire won't be top 2.1to392831weretaken said:
What part of being a Husky football fan has you still believing that we can have nice things?dnc said:Odds are the next coach is worse though.
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Rick N., whom I've always liked btw, is a notorious Miami hater because his ass is still sore from 2001. I don't know about the other guy and DC.MikeSeaver said:
I wish I could chin this 45 timesdnc said:
Took the twins to school today and Neuheisel and whomever the main host is on ESPNU both said they can’t understand why Miami wants this guy and Oregon shouldn’t pay him anywhere near 8 p/year. “They don’t need him.”
TL,DR: He sucks. Like we’ve been saying.
I like the hire. He'll do well there IMO, which of course is not more important than anybody else's. I am, if nothing else, a man of the people and know my place. -
Lest ye forget UW-Miami 2000. RIP Ken Dorothycreepycoug said:
Rick N., whom I've always liked btw, is a notorious Miami hater because his ass is still sore from 2001. I don't know about the other guy and DC.MikeSeaver said:
I wish I could chin this 45 timesdnc said:
Took the twins to school today and Neuheisel and whomever the main host is on ESPNU both said they can’t understand why Miami wants this guy and Oregon shouldn’t pay him anywhere near 8 p/year. “They don’t need him.”
TL,DR: He sucks. Like we’ve been saying.
I like the hire. He'll do well there IMO, which of course is not more important than anybody else's. I am, if nothing else, a man of the people and know my place. -
At the end of the discussion he said “We all want to see Miami back on top, it’s good for college football.”creepycoug said:
Rick N., whom I've always liked btw, is a notorious Miami hater because his ass is still sore from 2001. I don't know about the other guy and DC.MikeSeaver said:
I wish I could chin this 45 timesdnc said:
Took the twins to school today and Neuheisel and whomever the main host is on ESPNU both said they can’t understand why Miami wants this guy and Oregon shouldn’t pay him anywhere near 8 p/year. “They don’t need him.”
TL,DR: He sucks. Like we’ve been saying.
I like the hire. He'll do well there IMO, which of course is not more important than anybody else's. I am, if nothing else, a man of the people and know my place. -
Mario could do well in Miami. He could also not do well. Either way it will be interesting.
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Don't follow the other conferences much but I saw Pitt and Wake in the ACC championship game? Holy shit. Clemson was down down and just lost their DC.creepycoug said:
Rick N., whom I've always liked btw, is a notorious Miami hater because his ass is still sore from 2001. I don't know about the other guy and DC.MikeSeaver said:
I wish I could chin this 45 timesdnc said:
Took the twins to school today and Neuheisel and whomever the main host is on ESPNU both said they can’t understand why Miami wants this guy and Oregon shouldn’t pay him anywhere near 8 p/year. “They don’t need him.”
TL,DR: He sucks. Like we’ve been saying.
I like the hire. He'll do well there IMO, which of course is not more important than anybody else's. I am, if nothing else, a man of the people and know my place.
He's not going to fail there. -
Waterfront Miami Vice cocaine parties versus backwood inbred meth parties. Rather easy choice IMO.haie said:
Don't follow the other conferences much but I saw Pitt and Wake in the ACC championship game? Holy shit. Clemson was down down and just lost their DC.creepycoug said:
Rick N., whom I've always liked btw, is a notorious Miami hater because his ass is still sore from 2001. I don't know about the other guy and DC.MikeSeaver said:
I wish I could chin this 45 timesdnc said:
Took the twins to school today and Neuheisel and whomever the main host is on ESPNU both said they can’t understand why Miami wants this guy and Oregon shouldn’t pay him anywhere near 8 p/year. “They don’t need him.”
TL,DR: He sucks. Like we’ve been saying.
I like the hire. He'll do well there IMO, which of course is not more important than anybody else's. I am, if nothing else, a man of the people and know my place.
He's not going to fail there. -
Nobody forgot anything doog. I was at the game. Rick N. obviously wasn't salty about that. You're not following the conversation very closely IMO, not that my opinion is any more important than anyone else's.LawDawg1 said:
Lest ye forget UW-Miami 2000. RIP Ken Dorothycreepycoug said:
Rick N., whom I've always liked btw, is a notorious Miami hater because his ass is still sore from 2001. I don't know about the other guy and DC.MikeSeaver said:
I wish I could chin this 45 timesdnc said:
Took the twins to school today and Neuheisel and whomever the main host is on ESPNU both said they can’t understand why Miami wants this guy and Oregon shouldn’t pay him anywhere near 8 p/year. “They don’t need him.”
TL,DR: He sucks. Like we’ve been saying.
I like the hire. He'll do well there IMO, which of course is not more important than anybody else's. I am, if nothing else, a man of the people and know my place. -
Yes, I'm sure Rick N. really wants that. I'm just sure of it. Just my opinion, which is no more important than anyone else'.MikeSeaver said:
At the end of the discussion he said “We all want to see Miami back on top, it’s good for college football.”creepycoug said:
Rick N., whom I've always liked btw, is a notorious Miami hater because his ass is still sore from 2001. I don't know about the other guy and DC.MikeSeaver said:
I wish I could chin this 45 timesdnc said:
Took the twins to school today and Neuheisel and whomever the main host is on ESPNU both said they can’t understand why Miami wants this guy and Oregon shouldn’t pay him anywhere near 8 p/year. “They don’t need him.”
TL,DR: He sucks. Like we’ve been saying.
I like the hire. He'll do well there IMO, which of course is not more important than anybody else's. I am, if nothing else, a man of the people and know my place. -
FTFYcreepycoug said:
Not that my opinion is important.LawDawg1 said:
Lest ye forget UW-Miami 2000. RIP Ken Dorothycreepycoug said:
Rick N., whom I've always liked btw, is a notorious Miami hater because his ass is still sore from 2001. I don't know about the other guy and DC.MikeSeaver said:
I wish I could chin this 45 timesdnc said:
Took the twins to school today and Neuheisel and whomever the main host is on ESPNU both said they can’t understand why Miami wants this guy and Oregon shouldn’t pay him anywhere near 8 p/year. “They don’t need him.”
TL,DR: He sucks. Like we’ve been saying.
I like the hire. He'll do well there IMO, which of course is not more important than anybody else's. I am, if nothing else, a man of the people and know my place.
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I share your outlook.CuntWaffle said:Mario could do well in Miami. He could also not do well. Either way it will be interesting.
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I remember sitting on a frienf's couch watching the Rose Bowl lamenting what a fucking shitty coach we? had. I called for him to be fired on this site after the Fresno game. Hell, I called for him to be fired last year after every game.dnc said:
Okay the over/under is 5 of youdtd said:
oh come the fuck ondnc said:
You're about the only Quook who hated MC before all this happened so I'll give you props for that.MikeSeaver said:
I wish I could chin this 45 timesdnc said:
Took the twins to school today and Neuheisel and whomever the main host is on ESPNU both said they can’t understand why Miami wants this guy and Oregon shouldn’t pay him anywhere near 8 p/year. “They don’t need him.”
TL,DR: He sucks. Like we’ve been saying. -
Saying someone hates us is kind of the definition of ooging…creepycoug said:
Yes, I'm sure Rick N. really wants that. I'm just sure of it. Just my opinion, which is no more important than anyone else'.MikeSeaver said:
At the end of the discussion he said “We all want to see Miami back on top, it’s good for college football.”creepycoug said:
Rick N., whom I've always liked btw, is a notorious Miami hater because his ass is still sore from 2001. I don't know about the other guy and DC.MikeSeaver said:
I wish I could chin this 45 timesdnc said:
Took the twins to school today and Neuheisel and whomever the main host is on ESPNU both said they can’t understand why Miami wants this guy and Oregon shouldn’t pay him anywhere near 8 p/year. “They don’t need him.”
TL,DR: He sucks. Like we’ve been saying.
I like the hire. He'll do well there IMO, which of course is not more important than anybody else's. I am, if nothing else, a man of the people and know my place.
But also I really don’t care either way. He gone.
Thoughts and prayers. -
We all want to see Pittsburg back on top. It's good for college football.haie said:
Don't follow the other conferences much but I saw Pitt and Wake in the ACC championship game? Holy shit. Clemson was down down and just lost their DC.creepycoug said:
Rick N., whom I've always liked btw, is a notorious Miami hater because his ass is still sore from 2001. I don't know about the other guy and DC.MikeSeaver said:
I wish I could chin this 45 timesdnc said:
Took the twins to school today and Neuheisel and whomever the main host is on ESPNU both said they can’t understand why Miami wants this guy and Oregon shouldn’t pay him anywhere near 8 p/year. “They don’t need him.”
TL,DR: He sucks. Like we’ve been saying.
I like the hire. He'll do well there IMO, which of course is not more important than anybody else's. I am, if nothing else, a man of the people and know my place.
He's not going to fail there. -
The Black Lung Defense is ready to rumblecreepycoug said:
We all want to see Pittsburg back on top. It's good for college football.haie said:
Don't follow the other conferences much but I saw Pitt and Wake in the ACC championship game? Holy shit. Clemson was down down and just lost their DC.creepycoug said:
Rick N., whom I've always liked btw, is a notorious Miami hater because his ass is still sore from 2001. I don't know about the other guy and DC.MikeSeaver said:
I wish I could chin this 45 timesdnc said:
Took the twins to school today and Neuheisel and whomever the main host is on ESPNU both said they can’t understand why Miami wants this guy and Oregon shouldn’t pay him anywhere near 8 p/year. “They don’t need him.”
TL,DR: He sucks. Like we’ve been saying.
I like the hire. He'll do well there IMO, which of course is not more important than anybody else's. I am, if nothing else, a man of the people and know my place.
He's not going to fail there. -
We have established that you don't care either way Mike. Really, I got it. I don't really care either. I took a six month walk on the beach here recently. You no longer control the market on perspective.MikeSeaver said:
Saying someone hates us is kind of the definition of ooging…creepycoug said:
Yes, I'm sure Rick N. really wants that. I'm just sure of it. Just my opinion, which is no more important than anyone else'.MikeSeaver said:
At the end of the discussion he said “We all want to see Miami back on top, it’s good for college football.”creepycoug said:
Rick N., whom I've always liked btw, is a notorious Miami hater because his ass is still sore from 2001. I don't know about the other guy and DC.MikeSeaver said:
I wish I could chin this 45 timesdnc said:
Took the twins to school today and Neuheisel and whomever the main host is on ESPNU both said they can’t understand why Miami wants this guy and Oregon shouldn’t pay him anywhere near 8 p/year. “They don’t need him.”
TL,DR: He sucks. Like we’ve been saying.
I like the hire. He'll do well there IMO, which of course is not more important than anybody else's. I am, if nothing else, a man of the people and know my place.
But also I really don’t care either way. He gone.
Thoughts and prayers.
Just my own, humble and relatively unimportant, opinion. -
I thought the accusation was that I thought my opinion is more important than everybody else's. Is my opinion now not even enough to rate equivalent importance?LawDawg1 said:
FTFYcreepycoug said:
Not that my opinion is important.LawDawg1 said:
Lest ye forget UW-Miami 2000. RIP Ken Dorothycreepycoug said:
Rick N., whom I've always liked btw, is a notorious Miami hater because his ass is still sore from 2001. I don't know about the other guy and DC.MikeSeaver said:
I wish I could chin this 45 timesdnc said:
Took the twins to school today and Neuheisel and whomever the main host is on ESPNU both said they can’t understand why Miami wants this guy and Oregon shouldn’t pay him anywhere near 8 p/year. “They don’t need him.”
TL,DR: He sucks. Like we’ve been saying.
I like the hire. He'll do well there IMO, which of course is not more important than anybody else's. I am, if nothing else, a man of the people and know my place. -
I admittedly don't follow the Ducks closely other than when they lose their HFC, but it seems like more attention has been paid to mens and womens hoops. Probably easier to be successful in those sports.HuskyJW said:
I don’t think Phil cares about football like he used tohoneybadger40 said:
Uncle Phil is almost pushing up daisies. He'll go after a big time coach.dnc said:
There's a pretty good argument Cristobal is the second best coach Oregon ever had on a per season basis. I'm comfortable betting their next hire won't be top 2.1to392831weretaken said:
What part of being a Husky football fan has you still believing that we can have nice things?dnc said:Odds are the next coach is worse though.
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Petersens later classes were ranked better than his first 3, but still not as good as Oregon’s. Bottom line is Oregon had higher ranked recruiting classes during the Petersen era regardless who there coach was at Oregon. Which is MY FUCKING POINT. Oregon has a built in recruiting advantage with Nike/PK. This speaks nothing to the fact that a good coach can overcome this with better player development and coaching.1to392831weretaken said:
And I would argue that you're wrong. I predict that year one of NIL will have taught some marketing/branding firms a good lesson, and we'll quickly stop seeing million dollar deals for two-handoff quarterbacks. With that gone, NIL will become exactly what I predicted: The same system as before, only legal, tax deductible, and injected with serious amounts of rhino cum. NIL equaling a level playing field is the same kind of Randian fantasy as me having the same access to a Koenigsegg Jesko as Bill Gates. I mean, both of us are allowed to buy one, right?HuskyJW said:I would argue NIL levels the playing field
Just using the example of our little plucky neighbor to the south, when you have an "owner" willing to part with millions to win, you can do things like build an expensive house for players to "rent out" or other such nonsense that used to all happen under the table. WSU's allowed to do the same thing now, but can they?
I would argue this is exactly the case. I remember Cal's stadium packed and rockin' as Lynch drove the training cart around the field. As I kid, I remember Cal always being a legit contender. The COVID excuses seem lame, but they are true. And I'm no defender of Wilcox, being first (and right) to say he was a mediocre at best DC here when everyone else seems to blow him for his three-consecutive-blowouts-every-season performance.chuck said:...Bruce Snyder did it at Cal. Jeff Tedford did it at Cal. It can be done at Cal unless you're saying the school is more hostile to winning football now than it was then...
As for the Great @MikeDamone @chuck War of 2021, I see it both ways: Oregon sells itself more than Warshington right now. Having somebody at Oregon who actually gives a shit about recruiting also matters. The end. I can't remember who all was involved at this point, but it seems like some posters are arguing against Damone's demonstrable three-year recruiting advantage over Petersen by pointing to results on the field/in the draft with those respective players, then others are arguing that Petersen's later classes were better, even though the results on the field for those players tilt way toward Oregon.
As for @CallMeBigErn, weirdly hostile for just having an opinion that's clearly shared by many people in the biz of college football. I disagree, Wilcox is shit, but I think Ern's probably right for the wrong reason: We're all forgetting that this is all just a simulation to cause UW fans pain. 26 pages of laughing at misfortune later, and we all forget that no matter who Oregon hires, he's going to buttfuck UW anyway, whether it makes sense or not, because that's how the world seems to work lately. Besides, at least a dozen pages of piling on and calling a guy a doog in a 26 page schadenfreude thread about Oregon losing their coach seems awfully ironic. A bit little-brotherish... -
This isn't true though. Per 247 (your site of choice earlier in this thread)MikeDamone said:
Petersens later classes were ranked better than his first 3, but still not as good as Oregon’s. Bottom line is Oregon had higher ranked recruiting classes during the Petersen era regardless who there coach was at Oregon. Which is MY FUCKING POINT. Oregon has a built in recruiting advantage with Nike/PK. This speaks nothing to the fact that a good coach can overcome this with better player development and coaching.1to392831weretaken said:
And I would argue that you're wrong. I predict that year one of NIL will have taught some marketing/branding firms a good lesson, and we'll quickly stop seeing million dollar deals for two-handoff quarterbacks. With that gone, NIL will become exactly what I predicted: The same system as before, only legal, tax deductible, and injected with serious amounts of rhino cum. NIL equaling a level playing field is the same kind of Randian fantasy as me having the same access to a Koenigsegg Jesko as Bill Gates. I mean, both of us are allowed to buy one, right?HuskyJW said:I would argue NIL levels the playing field
Just using the example of our little plucky neighbor to the south, when you have an "owner" willing to part with millions to win, you can do things like build an expensive house for players to "rent out" or other such nonsense that used to all happen under the table. WSU's allowed to do the same thing now, but can they?
I would argue this is exactly the case. I remember Cal's stadium packed and rockin' as Lynch drove the training cart around the field. As I kid, I remember Cal always being a legit contender. The COVID excuses seem lame, but they are true. And I'm no defender of Wilcox, being first (and right) to say he was a mediocre at best DC here when everyone else seems to blow him for his three-consecutive-blowouts-every-season performance.chuck said:...Bruce Snyder did it at Cal. Jeff Tedford did it at Cal. It can be done at Cal unless you're saying the school is more hostile to winning football now than it was then...
As for the Great @MikeDamone @chuck War of 2021, I see it both ways: Oregon sells itself more than Warshington right now. Having somebody at Oregon who actually gives a shit about recruiting also matters. The end. I can't remember who all was involved at this point, but it seems like some posters are arguing against Damone's demonstrable three-year recruiting advantage over Petersen by pointing to results on the field/in the draft with those respective players, then others are arguing that Petersen's later classes were better, even though the results on the field for those players tilt way toward Oregon.
As for @CallMeBigErn, weirdly hostile for just having an opinion that's clearly shared by many people in the biz of college football. I disagree, Wilcox is shit, but I think Ern's probably right for the wrong reason: We're all forgetting that this is all just a simulation to cause UW fans pain. 26 pages of laughing at misfortune later, and we all forget that no matter who Oregon hires, he's going to buttfuck UW anyway, whether it makes sense or not, because that's how the world seems to work lately. Besides, at least a dozen pages of piling on and calling a guy a doog in a 26 page schadenfreude thread about Oregon losing their coach seems awfully ironic. A bit little-brotherish...
2018: UW 13th nationally, Oregon 17th
2019: Oregon 9th, UW 10th
2020: UW 12th, Oregon 17th
Three year average: Oregon 14.3, UW 11.6
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Depends on metric. Total points, sure, barely, because Oregon always took bigger classes. On a per player basis, UW's were higher rated. So, yes, UW can outrecruit Nike U. It's been done very recently.MikeDamone said:
Petersens later classes were ranked better than his first 3, but still not as good as Oregon’s. Bottom line is Oregon had higher ranked recruiting classes during the Petersen era regardless who there coach was at Oregon. Which is MY FUCKING POINT. Oregon has a built in recruiting advantage with Nike/PK. This speaks nothing to the fact that a good coach can overcome this with better player development and coaching.1to392831weretaken said:
And I would argue that you're wrong. I predict that year one of NIL will have taught some marketing/branding firms a good lesson, and we'll quickly stop seeing million dollar deals for two-handoff quarterbacks. With that gone, NIL will become exactly what I predicted: The same system as before, only legal, tax deductible, and injected with serious amounts of rhino cum. NIL equaling a level playing field is the same kind of Randian fantasy as me having the same access to a Koenigsegg Jesko as Bill Gates. I mean, both of us are allowed to buy one, right?HuskyJW said:I would argue NIL levels the playing field
Just using the example of our little plucky neighbor to the south, when you have an "owner" willing to part with millions to win, you can do things like build an expensive house for players to "rent out" or other such nonsense that used to all happen under the table. WSU's allowed to do the same thing now, but can they?
I would argue this is exactly the case. I remember Cal's stadium packed and rockin' as Lynch drove the training cart around the field. As I kid, I remember Cal always being a legit contender. The COVID excuses seem lame, but they are true. And I'm no defender of Wilcox, being first (and right) to say he was a mediocre at best DC here when everyone else seems to blow him for his three-consecutive-blowouts-every-season performance.chuck said:...Bruce Snyder did it at Cal. Jeff Tedford did it at Cal. It can be done at Cal unless you're saying the school is more hostile to winning football now than it was then...
As for the Great @MikeDamone @chuck War of 2021, I see it both ways: Oregon sells itself more than Warshington right now. Having somebody at Oregon who actually gives a shit about recruiting also matters. The end. I can't remember who all was involved at this point, but it seems like some posters are arguing against Damone's demonstrable three-year recruiting advantage over Petersen by pointing to results on the field/in the draft with those respective players, then others are arguing that Petersen's later classes were better, even though the results on the field for those players tilt way toward Oregon.
As for @CallMeBigErn, weirdly hostile for just having an opinion that's clearly shared by many people in the biz of college football. I disagree, Wilcox is shit, but I think Ern's probably right for the wrong reason: We're all forgetting that this is all just a simulation to cause UW fans pain. 26 pages of laughing at misfortune later, and we all forget that no matter who Oregon hires, he's going to buttfuck UW anyway, whether it makes sense or not, because that's how the world seems to work lately. Besides, at least a dozen pages of piling on and calling a guy a doog in a 26 page schadenfreude thread about Oregon losing their coach seems awfully ironic. A bit little-brotherish...