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    Just received this message from a guy (who shall remain anonymous) that I've interacted with over the years on DM and HH: "Just a quick personal note to say thanks for your perspectives on UW football over the years. I haven't always agreed with you, but I've appreciated your passion for the program. I had hoped this site would be a place to have fun discussing football, but even the few promising threads ultimately devolve into insults and name calling. While I certainly don't always agree with Kim, after hanging out here for a while, he has a point: some of the shtick gets old after a while. The older I get, the more I judge activities by whether I enjoy them, and I simply don't enjoy having my intelligence questioned by a bunch of internet idiots. Perhaps I will catch you in the future at another site somewhere between DM and HH. Anyway, carry on the good fight and feel free to drop an email if you want to discuss Dawgs."

    The guy that sent me this note is NO fan of kim or any of the other jerks over at DM.

    Look, I'm not going to advocate for people to be censored (like the d-bags that ruined DM), nor am I going to lecture anybody. I will only say that this website has the opportunity to become a REAL and UNFILTERED alternative to DM. The problem is that a few folks on here insist on turning threads into name-calling and 8th-grade-level cursing contests, or just an opportunity to 'zing' other people.

    I'll be the first to say that at times I've been guilty of that BS as well.

    I guess my only suggestion is that some folks should decide if they want this to become the website that ALL OF US have described at one time or another - a place of INTELLIGENT analysis where INTENSE criticism and UNSCRIPTED opinion is welcome - or do we want HH to be just a place of one-liners, biting insults, and contests to tear down others. I realize that it's often both, but I tend to agree with this guy that it tilts a little too much toward the latter.

    Just a thought. Peace. Now fire away.

    great thoughts here. One one hand, I think this site is hilarious. I think the podcast is fucking hilarious. And I love how the passionate Husky fans can vent their spleens and not worry about being cancelled by 'superfans.' I love making critical commentary without being blasted by idiots. I wish there was more of that content here. I was excited to join the boards and quickly found the sharp elbows - tough audience. But that's fine. I tried to post a straight up football comment and got LEAVE as a one word reply. Not much different than WSB. Again, I could give a fuck, (and I will no doubt get several FO's and LEAVES here...whatever). I am a media consultant and we are working on a project that tries to thread the line of attitude and substance. It's not easy to be true to the audience and culture AND be taken seriously for subject matter content...say...by advertisers or even a broader audience. This site ain't for wimps. It's hilarious and yeah, sometimes you have to really look for meaty football discussions and tolerate a lot of bullshit along the way. But it is what it is. Go Dawgs.
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    HFNYHFNY Member Posts: 4,524
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    The poster CuntWaffle makes some interesting points.

    I forwarded a good post to a good friend and he immediately dialed in on the Waffle, thinking that my was handle. I lol'ed.
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    CFetters_Nacho_LoverCFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 28,924
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    pawz said:

    Alpo said:

    Honestly was the primary reason I'd never joined in before. Very low signal:noise ratio. I get that it's fun for those participating, and this is all about entertainment, and live and let live and all that, but it is definitely a deterrent to being involved here.

    Not telling anyone wh

    Well thoought out poast. I would like to add I think one of the biggest problems is people really do take the internet too seriously. If someone tells your to DIAF on a message board do you really give a shit? Why? It is something that is so stupid to say I don't understand why someone would take offense to it. If anything the person saying it looks stupid and thats the joke.

    As far as football discussion goes I find it hard to generate a bunch of it since we still have the same brand of mediocre football we did 3 years ago after the first 7-6. We beat up scrubs, lose to elite programs, pinch out one surprise victory every year, shit the bed against a team we should have killed, suck on the road, and end up 7-6.

    Sark hasn't done anything to show us things really are looking up to where talking X's and O's is fun again. If the Huskies were really a top 10 team this year I would think this place would be much more active with overall football discussion. However, there are only so many times you can say Bishop Sankey is elite, Keith Price is undervalued, and our defense is better than it use to be but still just ok.

    tl;dr kick off your shoes, relax, and try and have some fun poasting. If you can't stand what someone posts then ignore them. The internet can be a lot of fun if you learn how to seperate it from real life.
    In other words, GTHUALTDBRLATI.


    @dnc
    @PurpleBaze
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    Huh?
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    JECARJECAR Member Posts: 580
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    pawz said:

    Alpo said:

    Honestly was the primary reason I'd never joined in before. Very low signal:noise ratio. I get that it's fun for those participating, and this is all about entertainment, and live and let live and all that, but it is definitely a deterrent to being involved here.

    Not telling anyone wh

    Well thoought out poast. I would like to add I think one of the biggest problems is people really do take the internet too seriously. If someone tells your to DIAF on a message board do you really give a shit? Why? It is something that is so stupid to say I don't understand why someone would take offense to it. If anything the person saying it looks stupid and thats the joke.

    As far as football discussion goes I find it hard to generate a bunch of it since we still have the same brand of mediocre football we did 3 years ago after the first 7-6. We beat up scrubs, lose to elite programs, pinch out one surprise victory every year, shit the bed against a team we should have killed, suck on the road, and end up 7-6.

    Sark hasn't done anything to show us things really are looking up to where talking X's and O's is fun again. If the Huskies were really a top 10 team this year I would think this place would be much more active with overall football discussion. However, there are only so many times you can say Bishop Sankey is elite, Keith Price is undervalued, and our defense is better than it use to be but still just ok.

    tl;dr kick off your shoes, relax, and try and have some fun poasting. If you can't stand what someone posts then ignore them. The internet can be a lot of fun if you learn how to seperate it from real life.
    In other words, GTHUALTDBRLATI.


    @dnc
    @PurpleBaze
    @CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    the "middle of store",'75k' bullshit has to stop. Does everyone here live in a fucking cattle heard? You guys are a bunch of nerdy bastatages. 75k, hee hee. bunch of dorks around here. Not much different than kimmy
    The only person that’s says stuff like this are Army Rangers who are above 6’4”
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    GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,481
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    JECAR said:

    pawz said:

    Alpo said:

    Honestly was the primary reason I'd never joined in before. Very low signal:noise ratio. I get that it's fun for those participating, and this is all about entertainment, and live and let live and all that, but it is definitely a deterrent to being involved here.

    Not telling anyone wh

    Well thoought out poast. I would like to add I think one of the biggest problems is people really do take the internet too seriously. If someone tells your to DIAF on a message board do you really give a shit? Why? It is something that is so stupid to say I don't understand why someone would take offense to it. If anything the person saying it looks stupid and thats the joke.

    As far as football discussion goes I find it hard to generate a bunch of it since we still have the same brand of mediocre football we did 3 years ago after the first 7-6. We beat up scrubs, lose to elite programs, pinch out one surprise victory every year, shit the bed against a team we should have killed, suck on the road, and end up 7-6.

    Sark hasn't done anything to show us things really are looking up to where talking X's and O's is fun again. If the Huskies were really a top 10 team this year I would think this place would be much more active with overall football discussion. However, there are only so many times you can say Bishop Sankey is elite, Keith Price is undervalued, and our defense is better than it use to be but still just ok.

    tl;dr kick off your shoes, relax, and try and have some fun poasting. If you can't stand what someone posts then ignore them. The internet can be a lot of fun if you learn how to seperate it from real life.
    In other words, GTHUALTDBRLATI.


    @dnc
    @PurpleBaze
    @CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    the "middle of store",'75k' bullshit has to stop. Does everyone here live in a fucking cattle heard? You guys are a bunch of nerdy bastatages. 75k, hee hee. bunch of dorks around here. Not much different than kimmy
    The only person that’s says stuff like this are Army Rangers who are above 6’4”
    What are you wearing?
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    CanadawgCanadawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 4,056
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    I dont know what's going on here. Feels like bait. I'm gonna sit this thread out
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    PasadenaHuskyFanPasadenaHuskyFan Member Posts: 611
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    Swaye said:

    Just received this message from a guy (who shall remain anonymous) that I've interacted with over the years on DM and HH: "Just a quick personal note to say thanks for your perspectives on UW football over the years. I haven't always agreed with you, but I've appreciated your passion for the program. I had hoped this site would be a place to have fun discussing football, but even the few promising threads ultimately devolve into insults and name calling. While I certainly don't always agree with Kim, after hanging out here for a while, he has a point: some of the shtick gets old after a while. The older I get, the more I judge activities by whether I enjoy them, and I simply don't enjoy having my intelligence questioned by a bunch of internet idiots. Perhaps I will catch you in the future at another site somewhere between DM and HH. Anyway, carry on the good fight and feel free to drop an email if you want to discuss Dawgs."

    The guy that sent me this note is NO fan of kim or any of the other jerks over at DM.

    Look, I'm not going to advocate for people to be censored (like the d-bags that ruined DM), nor am I going to lecture anybody. I will only say that this website has the opportunity to become a REAL and UNFILTERED alternative to DM. The problem is that a few folks on here insist on turning threads into name-calling and 8th-grade-level cursing contests, or just an opportunity to 'zing' other people.

    I'll be the first to say that at times I've been guilty of that BS as well.

    I guess my only suggestion is that some folks should decide if they want this to become the website that ALL OF US have described at one time or another - a place of INTELLIGENT analysis where INTENSE criticism and UNSCRIPTED opinion is welcome - or do we want HH to be just a place of one-liners, biting insults, and contests to tear down others. I realize that it's often both, but I tend to agree with this guy that it tilts a little too much toward the latter.

    Just a thought. Peace. Now fire away.

    great thoughts here. One one hand, I think this site is hilarious. I think the podcast is fucking hilarious. And I love how the passionate Husky fans can vent their spleens and not worry about being cancelled by 'superfans.' I love making critical commentary without being blasted by idiots. I wish there was more of that content here. I was excited to join the boards and quickly found the sharp elbows - tough audience. But that's fine. I tried to post a straight up football comment and got LEAVE as a one word reply. Not much different than WSB. Again, I could give a fuck, (and I will no doubt get several FO's and LEAVES here...whatever). I am a media consultant and we are working on a project that tries to thread the line of attitude and substance. It's not easy to be true to the audience and culture AND be taken seriously for subject matter content...say...by advertisers or even a broader audience. This site ain't for wimps. It's hilarious and yeah, sometimes you have to really look for meaty football discussions and tolerate a lot of bullshit along the way. But it is what it is. Go Dawgs.
    I am actually not going to bust your balls for replying to years old copypasta like a noob. I liked the cut of your jib in this poast so I will illuminate instead of fumigate - which is weird for me, but you may not understand why.

    A LEAVE can be sort of a term of endearment or an actual call to kill yourself. The trick is being here long enough to figure out the difference. This place very intentionally tries to deny entry to wimps, morons and casuals. We always used to say we'd rather have 50 smart fans with standards than 50 thousands Doogman mouth breathers - and we actually mean that.

    It's a tough love go fuck yourself culture that many people have spent the better part of two decades honing to a sharp point. To stab losers with. In the dick. Not kidding. Many of the long termers here go back to the late 90's and early 2000's on message boards, and we? have gypsied around the interwebs together, going from website to website, as we either got kicked out en masse or the websites failed or were overrun with Fox lawyers. At this point, we are a tribe of disaffected malcontents that have been kicked out of every bar in the county, except this one. So it's our bar. And we protect it like it's ours. With malice to all.

    We are basically the biblical Jews of Husky fandom. @RaceBannon is our Moses, only older. Pharaoh keeps fucking with us but we manage to survive. Like cockroaches. We talk about the tits of underage coaches daughters, we make paraplegic jokes to actual paraplegics, and we will always ask for naked pics of wives and daughters of friends and enemies alike. To be fair, we have few friends. We like that too. Having few friends keeps us nimble and fast, and ready for anything Charlie wants to throw at us. Years of being on the run has made us sharp, and hard (lulz) like iron, with breath like kerosene. We smoke weed and talk shit and like it when people are offended. We named this place the Thunder Dome. For a reason. Ten men enter, one man leaves, or in this case makes it to be a part of our tribe.

    It's been a three decade war with upper campus, the AD, and 81% of this no account fanbase that has no standards and just wants good clean games with no injuries. Guess what? We like injuries. Fuck the kids we always say.

    So, we don't dislike all newcomers, we just don't trust them. Could be a spy for Pharaoh, or just a wimpy fag. You have to earn entry to this club. Nothing given. Always earned. That said, you can come to the movement later in life and still be taken into the fold, just axe @YellowSnow (he fucking has his own bored here for Christs sake). You just have to be able to pick things up quickly, knife fight in a phone booth a little bit, and not try to take stands on pedophilia when someone asks how old the new Coaches underage daughter is. People who do that and then triple down on it are huge fags and will be scorned with copypasta for an age.

    We don't give a fuck about being relatable to the masses, or getting access, or anything else. We care about one thing as it relates to football. That's it. Just one thing. We are, after all, simple men with simple requests. Win, or else.
    My unvarnished overrall response to this thread is as follows (and it is actually for real, without too many jokes and stuff, which is hard for me to):

    I do see a bit of what some folks are saying, and I say that as one of the chief bombthrowers, smartasses, and sexists on here. It can get a bit over the top around here. And, it is certainly monotonous. Some of these jokes have been used about Avogadro's number of times, that's right, one mole of times for you Chem nerds. So yeah, I get it. I don't really know how to change it, and I am still not sure it should change, but I can see that some would find it tiresome and old.

    The counterpoint to these items is as follows:

    If you don't like scantily clad women, well, this isn't the site for you. I mean, it's not like DJ let's full blown nudity on here. These are basically bikini shots - and in most cases, no more slutty/seductive than the yearly SI swimsuit issue, or a 30 minute Victoria Secret infomercial on basic cable - not sure what that says about society now, but it is the truth. In fact, my last .gif with the girl rolling over...she actually has MORE on than some of the SI girls - and I REALLY did receive a couple of complaints about it, and some other just funny PM's. So yeah, if you find that offensive, don't turn on your TV, never get on the internet, and don't look at Sears circulars in the Sunday Paper (bra ads ftw).

    Cursing. Um, see above. It's the internet.

    Inside jokes. Well, this one is tricky. I have been trading these jokes for 5 or so years now from just before HHBV1 to now. Some of these guys go back quite a bit farther than that (like old old Freebird days). I hate to take a "it is what it is" stance, but it sort of is. When the same 10-12 people, who all LOVE UW Football, have been trading jokes for 5-10 years, this is what you get. I will grant you, it isn't inclusive feeling to new members, but shit man, I have personally seen 5-10 new members spend about a month on here, and not only get used to it, but embrace it. Like the "New Members Post" says, lurk a bit, and you will get it. If you just don't like it, as opposed to not understanding it, I don't know what to say. Perhaps it should be toned down a bit, who am I to say, but I doubt it will.

    Blasting people and callinghem ignorant. I am just going to assume that Aubbie sent Passion the PM. I probably blasted him more than anyone in that thread. Totally over the top, and I am fine with it to be perfectly honest. I like Aubs fine, but the fact is he really does move goalposts, make excuses, and generally Doog it up, all after saying he was drawing a line in the sand. It's a joke. And, after just watching our 10th dismantling in a row, I had had it with that crap. I know others must have felt the same. I really do believe that fans like him (and far far worse than him) are what allowed Husky Football to fall to this low ebb. So, not going to apologize. At the same time, it isn't like I would try to kick his ass at the Aurora 7-11 if I ever met him. I would probably give him some shit for his opinions, but not in some hardcore way. If you can't take someone calling you an asshole after that game, then grow thicker skin. I have been called much worse in PM's from the Doog Nation on Doogfarm. I have yet to lose one second of sleep over it. Nor did I run away from it, I got banned instead. People need to learn the difference.

    Has anyone here ever really read Tiger Droppings or Shaggy Bevo? It is just as over the top there as here. Tons of half nude .gif's, retard jokes, inside jokes, hoping Coaching staffs get run over by semi's, misogynistic picture threads, etc. That is what makes them fun. But, these kind of sites aren't for everyone. I don't suppose girls would like them (who cares), or dudes who might as well be girls, or any Sounders fan. But, if you have some hair on your balls, and roll with stuff a little bit, I think this place can be fun, for almost anyone (as long as you aren't BleenorFS). PostGameOrange and I downvote each other all the time, and flip shit, and then in the next thread we are man crushing all over each other with 22 upvotes in a row. Who gives a shit.

    So, in the words of every great HS Football Coach in the world, "rub some dirt on it pussy, and get back in the game."

    Negativity. This board goes as UW Football goes, and when it is the 12th year in a row with no chance at a Rose Bowl, in mid-October, well you can figure the rest out. DJ said my thoughts here much more eloquently above anyway.

    The one area I can really see me agreeing, to an extent, is in the lack of football discussion at times. I myself should probably talk 20 percent more football, and 20 percent less one liners. This area is also sort of influenced by the negativity discussion above. How many times can we discuss Mariota running all over us, and Keith price running for his life? Two or three threads about our total lack of pass rush, and that topic is pretty well dead. I am pretty sure we don't even have a band anymore, so not much to talk about there. Etc.

    Jesus Christ. I went TequillaFS with this reponse. Nobody will even be reading by now, so I will slip in a clever little FUCK OFF.
    imagine writing this
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