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Same feeling here. I have to admit that Kwat probably made the best choice. He damaged his reputation but that will fade and he made a fuck ton if money doing it. He got away from Jimmy which must've felt like the most important thing to him.Houhusky said:
Simple. Jimmy is/was that bad.doogville said:Will never understand Kwat hitching his wagon to Sark. Dude could have gone to any number of big-time programs.
Perplexing to say the least.
Imagine doing all the work for your your subordinate only for him to get promoted to equal "co-DC" and then get a massive HC bag when you know he doesnt know shit, hasn't learned shit, and never did any of the actual work. I dont blame him.
I dont know that I'd want him back. His success was with Petersen as HC. Pete's assistants, for the most part, overperform. -
Say again?chuck said:
Same feeling here. I have to admit that Kwat probably made the best choice. He damaged his reputation but that will fade and he made a fuck ton if money doing it. He got away from Jimmy which must've felt like the most important thing to him.Houhusky said:
Simple. Jimmy is/was that bad.doogville said:Will never understand Kwat hitching his wagon to Sark. Dude could have gone to any number of big-time programs.
Perplexing to say the least.
Imagine doing all the work for your your subordinate only for him to get promoted to equal "co-DC" and then get a massive HC bag when you know he doesnt know shit, hasn't learned shit, and never did any of the actual work. I dont blame him.
I dont know that I'd want him back. His success was with Petersen as HC. Pete's assistants, for the most part, overperform. -
His assistants are better under him than they do without him. Jonathan Smith is the only example I can think of that doesn't fit.LawDawg1 said:
Say again?chuck said:
Same feeling here. I have to admit that Kwat probably made the best choice. He damaged his reputation but that will fade and he made a fuck ton if money doing it. He got away from Jimmy which must've felt like the most important thing to him.Houhusky said:
Simple. Jimmy is/was that bad.doogville said:Will never understand Kwat hitching his wagon to Sark. Dude could have gone to any number of big-time programs.
Perplexing to say the least.
Imagine doing all the work for your your subordinate only for him to get promoted to equal "co-DC" and then get a massive HC bag when you know he doesnt know shit, hasn't learned shit, and never did any of the actual work. I dont blame him.
I dont know that I'd want him back. His success was with Petersen as HC. Pete's assistants, for the most part, overperform. -
And it was a two-high look way too often with both safeties way off the LOS. We were outmanned inside the box and our safeties would make tackles after an eight yard gain. (That is, when they didn't take a horrible angle and miss the tackle completely.) It was the easiest pre-snap read in the world for the QB to make.NorwegianHusky said:
We played a 4-2-5 but with a regular nickel, not a hybrid safety/lb big nickel. The DL alignment and gap responsibilities will also be different.theLSkid said:The 4-2-5 is literally what we’ve ran for the last 8 years, nothing different.
The Husky position is another way of saying Nickel, or Star if you’re a Rams fan.
The 4-2-5 relies heavily on interior pass rush and versatile DB play, we did not have a nickel who could play the run game (bookie)
And the interior pass rush was non-existent, it’s hard for the DEs to sack a QB AND keep contain.
We put way too much on our DTs in the run game, and on our DBs in the pass game. Worked well when we had elite corners and elite DTs. This year we only had elite corners.
Better to have a scheme where you find guys who can fill a role, rather than require certain positions to be good at everything.
Shoot that version of 4-2-5 into the sun, or at least the idiot playcaller that would show that look on, like, 2nd and 4. -
Same with James. We chased his assistants for a decade or morechuck said:
His assistants are better under him than they do without him. Jonathan Smith is the only example I can think of that doesn't fit.LawDawg1 said:
Say again?chuck said:
Same feeling here. I have to admit that Kwat probably made the best choice. He damaged his reputation but that will fade and he made a fuck ton if money doing it. He got away from Jimmy which must've felt like the most important thing to him.Houhusky said:
Simple. Jimmy is/was that bad.doogville said:Will never understand Kwat hitching his wagon to Sark. Dude could have gone to any number of big-time programs.
Perplexing to say the least.
Imagine doing all the work for your your subordinate only for him to get promoted to equal "co-DC" and then get a massive HC bag when you know he doesnt know shit, hasn't learned shit, and never did any of the actual work. I dont blame him.
I dont know that I'd want him back. His success was with Petersen as HC. Pete's assistants, for the most part, overperform.
Gilby was the exception then as an assistant not head coach. Could always coach the O line -
I could give you $2 million reasonsdoogville said:Will never understand Kwat hitching his wagon to Sark. Dude could have gone to any number of big-time programs.
Perplexing to say the least. -
2016 d line was one of the better ones we had. Too bad we did not have a fucking edge rusher worth a shitRaceBannon said:
That was a great defensewhatshouldicareabout said:
At Texas, the head coach is the issue.AtomicDawg said:
I hate kwat because his scheme is limp dick football. Texas was a huge disaster on defense this year. It worked before coaches figured it out. It’s like how lambo stayed with the 46 defense way too long.CuntWaffle said:
Wouldn't the whole point of hiring Donte Williams as co-DC would be to hire someone like Kwat who is a good defensive mind but not a recruiter? I want to move on from the Petersen tree so I hope we can get someone else but I would not lose sleep if Kwat was hired back here. He won't be so that point is moot but still.backthepack said:
Peas and carrots isn't going to cut it anymore.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Why? Produced nothing but great defenses when he was here. Was the first to recognize Jimmy as the incompetent boob he was, and this year's broken D under Bob just further solidified how integral Kwat was to our defensive success.backthepack said:
fuck kwatRaceBannon said:Patterson as DC at Texas has legs.
I don't want him back since we need to completely cleanse ourselves of all things Pete and Jimmy, and I of course enjoyed seeing him and Sark fail epically in Texas. But I'll always love him for the badass Ds he gave us during his tenure here.
Kwait held Bama to 17 points when they averaged 42 PPG
By 2019 it wasn't. This year it was pathetic at Texas
I know Lake took over but Kwat agreed to let him have the title and 81 percent here thought it was great -
We had one and he got hurtFireCohen said:
2016 d line was one of the better ones we had. Too bad we did not have a fucking edge rusher worth a shitRaceBannon said:
That was a great defensewhatshouldicareabout said:
At Texas, the head coach is the issue.AtomicDawg said:
I hate kwat because his scheme is limp dick football. Texas was a huge disaster on defense this year. It worked before coaches figured it out. It’s like how lambo stayed with the 46 defense way too long.CuntWaffle said:
Wouldn't the whole point of hiring Donte Williams as co-DC would be to hire someone like Kwat who is a good defensive mind but not a recruiter? I want to move on from the Petersen tree so I hope we can get someone else but I would not lose sleep if Kwat was hired back here. He won't be so that point is moot but still.backthepack said:
Peas and carrots isn't going to cut it anymore.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Why? Produced nothing but great defenses when he was here. Was the first to recognize Jimmy as the incompetent boob he was, and this year's broken D under Bob just further solidified how integral Kwat was to our defensive success.backthepack said:
fuck kwatRaceBannon said:Patterson as DC at Texas has legs.
I don't want him back since we need to completely cleanse ourselves of all things Pete and Jimmy, and I of course enjoyed seeing him and Sark fail epically in Texas. But I'll always love him for the badass Ds he gave us during his tenure here.
Kwait held Bama to 17 points when they averaged 42 PPG
By 2019 it wasn't. This year it was pathetic at Texas
I know Lake took over but Kwat agreed to let him have the title and 81 percent here thought it was great -
You’re talking personnel differences and packages, not scheme. Look at TCU from 2009 vs 2019, looks like a different defense because the SS (their nickel) is a massive linebacker in 09, now he’s an Elijah molden type, it’s how football changes and who you can RECRUIT.NorwegianHusky said:
We played a 4-2-5 but with a regular nickel, not a hybrid safety/lb big nickel. The DL alignment and gap responsibilities will also be different.theLSkid said:The 4-2-5 is literally what we’ve ran for the last 8 years, nothing different.
The Husky position is another way of saying Nickel, or Star if you’re a Rams fan.
The 4-2-5 relies heavily on interior pass rush and versatile DB play, we did not have a nickel who could play the run game (bookie)
And the interior pass rush was non-existent, it’s hard for the DEs to sack a QB AND keep contain.
We put way too much on our DTs in the run game, and on our DBs in the pass game. Worked well when we had elite corners and elite DTs. This year we only had elite corners.
Better to have a scheme where you find guys who can fill a role, rather than require certain positions to be good at everything.
The DL will change because our younger guys weren’t able to slant techniques like a traditional 4-2-5, they didn’t have the ability and would get washed. We tried it, didn’t work. Playing a base front in a 4-2-5 is not what coaches want to do anyways.
I agree with what you said about DBs and DTs but that won’t change with this Fresno Scheme.
Recruit better players = Defense gets better
Now if you want to talk about Arandas 3-4 Tite front..
