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Defensive Scheme
GayThoughts
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Rumored DC William Inge runs a 4-2-5 defense with a unique "Husky" position that has caught my eye.
"4-2-5 defensive scheme in 2020 signaled the introduction of the Husky position group at Fresno State. (Julius) Brown led the transition of four individuals into a unique position whose responsibilities include those of a strong-side linebacker and a safety – a hybrid position."
Although I'm lukewarm on Inge being the DC, it'd be nice to get Dom Hampton and Jacobe Covington on the field and spell the end of Jack Sirmon's time in the program.
"4-2-5 defensive scheme in 2020 signaled the introduction of the Husky position group at Fresno State. (Julius) Brown led the transition of four individuals into a unique position whose responsibilities include those of a strong-side linebacker and a safety – a hybrid position."
Although I'm lukewarm on Inge being the DC, it'd be nice to get Dom Hampton and Jacobe Covington on the field and spell the end of Jack Sirmon's time in the program.
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Covington was playing corner this year.
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Its college football, they dont need to learn complex cover 1 cross rat man under hybrid zone schemes.
75% is use the scheme that gets the best players you have on the field
25% is use the scheme that counters what the offense is trying to do -
We need a head coach that helps his DC adapt and adjust as the game swings back and forth between 5 wides throwing it all over and run it up your ass in the I formation
Obviously the ideal is a defensive line of future NFL stars so the other 7 guys can take the rest of the field. That's the other DAWGS this year.
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I pray whoever our DC(s) is/are that they teach proper ILB play. The last three years with Wellington, Manure, and Sirmon have made our maddening two-gap scheme and the absence of adjustments look like we’re the dumbest, most stubborn myopic staff in America, not to mention shitty developers of LBs or at least don’t know who to play.
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The 4-2-5 is literally what we’ve ran for the last 8 years, nothing different.
The Husky position is another way of saying Nickel, or Star if you’re a Rams fan.
The 4-2-5 relies heavily on interior pass rush and versatile DB play, we did not have a nickel who could play the run game (bookie)
And the interior pass rush was non-existent, it’s hard for the DEs to sack a QB AND keep contain.
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Basically what we’ve been playing but with four down linemen instead of two or three.theLSkid said:The 4-2-5 is literally what we’ve ran for the last 8 years, nothing different.
The Husky position is another way of saying Nickel, or Star if you’re a Rams fan.
The 4-2-5 relies heavily on interior pass rush and versatile DB play, we did not have a nickel who could play the run game (bookie)
And the interior pass rush was non-existent, it’s hard for the DEs to sack a QB AND keep contain.
Should be far more effective against the run. -
Patterson as DC at Texas has legs.
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Setting hisself up to take over when Sark gets fired 7 games into next season.RaceBannon said:Patterson as DC at Texas has legs.
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fuck kwatRaceBannon said:Patterson as DC at Texas has legs.
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Hm.. possible Kwiat return? Doubt it
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Sark thinks he can lick Gary's back and get high.RaceBannon said:Patterson as DC at Texas has legs.
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Will never understand Kwat hitching his wagon to Sark. Dude could have gone to any number of big-time programs.
Perplexing to say the least. -
Trying to get away from Jimmy as soon as he could.doogville said:Will never understand Kwat hitching his wagon to Sark. Dude could have gone to any number of big-time programs.
Perplexing to say the least. -
Simple. Jimmy is/was that bad.doogville said:Will never understand Kwat hitching his wagon to Sark. Dude could have gone to any number of big-time programs.
Perplexing to say the least.
Imagine doing all the work for your your subordinate only for him to get promoted to equal "co-DC" and then get a massive HC bag when you know he doesnt know shit, hasn't learned shit, and never did any of the actual work. I dont blame him. -
Is what Sark didbackthepack said:
fuck kwatRaceBannon said:Patterson as DC at Texas has legs.
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Exactly. Sark>JimmyHouhusky said:
Simple. Jimmy is/was that bad.doogville said:Will never understand Kwat hitching his wagon to Sark. Dude could have gone to any number of big-time programs.
Perplexing to say the least.
Imagine doing all the work for your your subordinate only for him to get promoted to equal "co-DC" and then get a massive HC bag when you know he doesnt know shit, hasn't learned shit, and never did any of the actual work. I dont blame him. -
Sark > Jimmy POTDPasadenaHuskyFan said:
Exactly. Sark>JimmyHouhusky said:
Simple. Jimmy is/was that bad.doogville said:Will never understand Kwat hitching his wagon to Sark. Dude could have gone to any number of big-time programs.
Perplexing to say the least.
Imagine doing all the work for your your subordinate only for him to get promoted to equal "co-DC" and then get a massive HC bag when you know he doesnt know shit, hasn't learned shit, and never did any of the actual work. I dont blame him. -
Why? Produced nothing but great defenses when he was here. Was the first to recognize Jimmy as the incompetent boob he was, and this year's broken D under Bob just further solidified how integral Kwat was to our defensive success.backthepack said:
fuck kwatRaceBannon said:Patterson as DC at Texas has legs.
I don't want him back since we need to completely cleanse ourselves of all things Pete and Jimmy, and I of course enjoyed seeing him and Sark fail epically in Texas. But I'll always love him for the badass Ds he gave us during his tenure here. -
Post. Of. The. Year.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Sark thinks he can lick Gary's back and get high.RaceBannon said:Patterson as DC at Texas has legs.
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Peas and carrots isn't going to cut it anymore.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Why? Produced nothing but great defenses when he was here. Was the first to recognize Jimmy as the incompetent boob he was, and this year's broken D under Bob just further solidified how integral Kwat was to our defensive success.backthepack said:
fuck kwatRaceBannon said:Patterson as DC at Texas has legs.
I don't want him back since we need to completely cleanse ourselves of all things Pete and Jimmy, and I of course enjoyed seeing him and Sark fail epically in Texas. But I'll always love him for the badass Ds he gave us during his tenure here.
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Wouldn't the whole point of hiring Donte Williams as co-DC would be to hire someone like Kwat who is a good defensive mind but not a recruiter? I want to move on from the Petersen tree so I hope we can get someone else but I would not lose sleep if Kwat was hired back here. He won't be so that point is moot but still.backthepack said:
Peas and carrots isn't going to cut it anymore.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Why? Produced nothing but great defenses when he was here. Was the first to recognize Jimmy as the incompetent boob he was, and this year's broken D under Bob just further solidified how integral Kwat was to our defensive success.backthepack said:
fuck kwatRaceBannon said:Patterson as DC at Texas has legs.
I don't want him back since we need to completely cleanse ourselves of all things Pete and Jimmy, and I of course enjoyed seeing him and Sark fail epically in Texas. But I'll always love him for the badass Ds he gave us during his tenure here. -
I hate Kwat for the same reasons Race hates HaenerCuntWaffle said:
Wouldn't the whole point of hiring Donte Williams as co-DC would be to hire someone like Kwat who is a good defensive mind but not a recruiter? I want to move on from the Petersen tree so I hope we can get someone else but I would not lose sleep if Kwat was hired back here. He won't be so that point is moot but still.backthepack said:
Peas and carrots isn't going to cut it anymore.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Why? Produced nothing but great defenses when he was here. Was the first to recognize Jimmy as the incompetent boob he was, and this year's broken D under Bob just further solidified how integral Kwat was to our defensive success.backthepack said:
fuck kwatRaceBannon said:Patterson as DC at Texas has legs.
I don't want him back since we need to completely cleanse ourselves of all things Pete and Jimmy, and I of course enjoyed seeing him and Sark fail epically in Texas. But I'll always love him for the badass Ds he gave us during his tenure here.
I don't blame him for telling Lake to fuck off but I don't care -
I'm surprised it isn't getting moar traction.Doogles said:
Post. Of. The. Year.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Sark thinks he can lick Gary's back and get high.RaceBannon said:Patterson as DC at Texas has legs.
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On first read I pictured Sark running his tongue over Gary's back hair, liver spots and atypical moles. It made me chuckle. On second read I got the joke. It takes a minute.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I'm surprised it isn't getting moar traction.Doogles said:
Post. Of. The. Year.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Sark thinks he can lick Gary's back and get high.RaceBannon said:Patterson as DC at Texas has legs.
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I hate kwat because his scheme is limp dick football. Texas was a huge disaster on defense this year. It worked before coaches figured it out. It’s like how lambo stayed with the 46 defense way too long.CuntWaffle said:
Wouldn't the whole point of hiring Donte Williams as co-DC would be to hire someone like Kwat who is a good defensive mind but not a recruiter? I want to move on from the Petersen tree so I hope we can get someone else but I would not lose sleep if Kwat was hired back here. He won't be so that point is moot but still.backthepack said:
Peas and carrots isn't going to cut it anymore.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Why? Produced nothing but great defenses when he was here. Was the first to recognize Jimmy as the incompetent boob he was, and this year's broken D under Bob just further solidified how integral Kwat was to our defensive success.backthepack said:
fuck kwatRaceBannon said:Patterson as DC at Texas has legs.
I don't want him back since we need to completely cleanse ourselves of all things Pete and Jimmy, and I of course enjoyed seeing him and Sark fail epically in Texas. But I'll always love him for the badass Ds he gave us during his tenure here.
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We played a 4-2-5 but with a regular nickel, not a hybrid safety/lb big nickel. The DL alignment and gap responsibilities will also be different.theLSkid said:The 4-2-5 is literally what we’ve ran for the last 8 years, nothing different.
The Husky position is another way of saying Nickel, or Star if you’re a Rams fan.
The 4-2-5 relies heavily on interior pass rush and versatile DB play, we did not have a nickel who could play the run game (bookie)
And the interior pass rush was non-existent, it’s hard for the DEs to sack a QB AND keep contain.
We put way too much on our DTs in the run game, and on our DBs in the pass game. Worked well when we had elite corners and elite DTs. This year we only had elite corners.
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At Texas, the head coach is the issue.AtomicDawg said:
I hate kwat because his scheme is limp dick football. Texas was a huge disaster on defense this year. It worked before coaches figured it out. It’s like how lambo stayed with the 46 defense way too long.CuntWaffle said:
Wouldn't the whole point of hiring Donte Williams as co-DC would be to hire someone like Kwat who is a good defensive mind but not a recruiter? I want to move on from the Petersen tree so I hope we can get someone else but I would not lose sleep if Kwat was hired back here. He won't be so that point is moot but still.backthepack said:
Peas and carrots isn't going to cut it anymore.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Why? Produced nothing but great defenses when he was here. Was the first to recognize Jimmy as the incompetent boob he was, and this year's broken D under Bob just further solidified how integral Kwat was to our defensive success.backthepack said:
fuck kwatRaceBannon said:Patterson as DC at Texas has legs.
I don't want him back since we need to completely cleanse ourselves of all things Pete and Jimmy, and I of course enjoyed seeing him and Sark fail epically in Texas. But I'll always love him for the badass Ds he gave us during his tenure here.
Kwait held Bama to 17 points when they averaged 42 PPG -
That was a great defensewhatshouldicareabout said:
At Texas, the head coach is the issue.AtomicDawg said:
I hate kwat because his scheme is limp dick football. Texas was a huge disaster on defense this year. It worked before coaches figured it out. It’s like how lambo stayed with the 46 defense way too long.CuntWaffle said:
Wouldn't the whole point of hiring Donte Williams as co-DC would be to hire someone like Kwat who is a good defensive mind but not a recruiter? I want to move on from the Petersen tree so I hope we can get someone else but I would not lose sleep if Kwat was hired back here. He won't be so that point is moot but still.backthepack said:
Peas and carrots isn't going to cut it anymore.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Why? Produced nothing but great defenses when he was here. Was the first to recognize Jimmy as the incompetent boob he was, and this year's broken D under Bob just further solidified how integral Kwat was to our defensive success.backthepack said:
fuck kwatRaceBannon said:Patterson as DC at Texas has legs.
I don't want him back since we need to completely cleanse ourselves of all things Pete and Jimmy, and I of course enjoyed seeing him and Sark fail epically in Texas. But I'll always love him for the badass Ds he gave us during his tenure here.
Kwait held Bama to 17 points when they averaged 42 PPG
By 2019 it wasn't. This year it was pathetic at Texas
I know Lake took over but Kwat agreed to let him have the title and 81 percent here thought it was great
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He was fine then. 91 was a great defense for lambo. 98 wasn’t. The scheme is easy to beat if you throw underneath and run the ball patiently. And kwat and jimmy still commit to deep safeties in obvious run situations. Or play nickel personnel when 3rd and short.whatshouldicareabout said:
At Texas, the head coach is the issue.AtomicDawg said:
I hate kwat because his scheme is limp dick football. Texas was a huge disaster on defense this year. It worked before coaches figured it out. It’s like how lambo stayed with the 46 defense way too long.CuntWaffle said:
Wouldn't the whole point of hiring Donte Williams as co-DC would be to hire someone like Kwat who is a good defensive mind but not a recruiter? I want to move on from the Petersen tree so I hope we can get someone else but I would not lose sleep if Kwat was hired back here. He won't be so that point is moot but still.backthepack said:
Peas and carrots isn't going to cut it anymore.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Why? Produced nothing but great defenses when he was here. Was the first to recognize Jimmy as the incompetent boob he was, and this year's broken D under Bob just further solidified how integral Kwat was to our defensive success.backthepack said:
fuck kwatRaceBannon said:Patterson as DC at Texas has legs.
I don't want him back since we need to completely cleanse ourselves of all things Pete and Jimmy, and I of course enjoyed seeing him and Sark fail epically in Texas. But I'll always love him for the badass Ds he gave us during his tenure here.
Kwait held Bama to 17 points when they averaged 42 PPG
Things change. Things stay the same. Quit living in the past.
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As the first Jimmy Lake hatter here, I wouldn't really have a problem bringing Kwat back.
Its a little bit lazy and a bit safe but there are 100s worse DCs DeBoner could pick and it would allow Deboner to simplify his job as Offense and recruiting.
