Some perspective on this hire and The Real Problem
I just finished watching painfully every snap from Indiana in 2019. Where the UW savior was the OC. ( I don’t give a fuck what Fresno State did) I wanted to see what calls he made with less talent than the other team vs power five. Not as bad as the dip shit Mr Lake but honestly Sark score more points and is a better OC.
The real problem is this. UW’s new coach is a good guy try hard that will soon be so far in over his head vs Riley and The Cuban from Washington’s Mexico that we will assume upper campus ultimate fantasy. 8-5 forever and the funding to just keep the other sports going . And Jen Cohen will keep her job because upper campus doesn’t give a shit boys. This dude shouldn’t last 3 years and should be an OC tops . With Jen at AD he will last 5-8 years. It’s a two team conference and we will never see anything other than the Autozone pedophile bowl . He will never win a recruiting battle vs USC, Oregon or UCLA. It is about the Jimmy and the Joe’s not the X’s and the 0’s. He can’t close.
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Disagree with most of this but gave you a chin for the Autozone Pedophile Bowel in honor of @Canadawg
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When nothing else matters, I can usually say to myself, "Oh, well. At least it's over."
For some reason, I can't even muster those trite words to combat the doom and gloom I see coming in the dark clouds piling up offshore.
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My point exactly
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So Jimmy Lake wasn't committed to helping the UW students be successful on the field, in the classroom and in their lives after graduation? Love the mask theater. Good thing your dog is vaccinated.RaceBannon said: -
They were #19 in espn offensive FPI efficiency rating when he was there.
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And look at the differences before and after.backthepack said:They were #19 in espn offensive FPI efficiency rating when he was there.
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Ummmmm....hello. Some of us (me) have been saying the real root of the problem is WeAreAFatLesboSchool. Now more than ever
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Swaye, you think Tarbox and Dee wouldn’t do as well as this guy? Ha.. Dude put down the Rose Colored glasses. Riley is going to own this conference along with Super Mario for the next 8 years. Jen didn’t open up the check book. USC finally said fuck it. That’s a problem. Curious as to why you think Riley won’t dominate.
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Kill yourself.Clevdawg said:Congratulations to Jen Cohen for hiring the best high school football coach west of Minneapolis. Reportedly Jen Pushed Hard For Chuck Tarbox of Juanita, Dee Hawkes from Bothell, Monte Kohler, O’Dea, Bill Beattie, Tumwater all quoted family concerns and a lack of commitment from upper campus in declining Jen’s overtures. Which included the complimentary B@&$ J@& from a fatty still wasn’t enough to close the deal.
I just finished watching painfully every snap from Indiana in 2019. Where the UW savior was the OC. ( I don’t give a fuck what Fresno State did) I wanted to see what calls he made with less talent than the other team vs power five. Not as bad as the dip shit Mr Lake but honestly Sark score more points and is a better OC.
The real problem is this. UW’s new coach is a good guy try hard that will soon be so far in over his head vs Riley and The Cuban from Washington’s Mexico that we will assume upper campus ultimate fantasy. 8-5 forever and the funding to just keep the other sports going . And Jen Cohen will keep her job because upper campus doesn’t give a shit boys. This dude shouldn’t last 3 years and should be an OC tops . With Jen at AD he will last 5-8 years. It’s a two team conference and we will never see anything other than the Autozone pedophile bowl . He will never win a recruiting battle vs USC, Oregon or UCLA. It is about the Jimmy and the Joe’s not the X’s and the 0’s. He can’t close. -
Holy fuck. Why would you do that?Clevdawg said:
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Why would I watch every snap? I wanted see how he makes decisions. I did. Sark was better as an OC. The new coach is a nice guy that is going to get annihilated.
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Guy reminds me a lot of Tedford and wouldn’t be surprised if he has a similar career at UW as he did at Cal. Gradually become a 7-9 winner get a couple big years, upset USC maybe and play them close a couple times but never really fill out the trophy case. Only thing is can Deboer find and bring in some Marshawn and Desean’s and a Rodgers? Seems unlikely.
The focus should be on trying to own the North. USC probably takes off and you’re glad you now only play them twice every four years and hope you can sneak up on them in a title game.
Problem is Oregon is in the way. I don’t think at least getting competitive with them is impossible. They kind of remind me of UW in 2018 under Pete and lost to Stanford and Utah. -
Clevdawg said:
Why would I watch every snap? I wanted see how he makes decisions. I did. Sark was better as an OC. The new coach is a nice guy that is going to get annihilated.
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Here's 9 reasons why I don't think Riley is all he's cracked up to be. His offense scores points, woopdeefuck. His defenses are also utter shite and they played on the brink all season long. If Oklahoma wasn't dominant in the Big 12, I don't see why he's all of sudden going to be dominant in the PAC. He kept Alex Grinch as DC which brings into question his decision-making skills already. This is a sizzle hire because of his offenses. Do people forget that you also need a defense? USC just gave up 60+ points to UCLA. Good luck fixing that with Alex Grinch.Clevdawg said:Swaye, you think Tarbox and Dee wouldn’t do as well as this guy? Ha.. Dude put down the Rose Colored glasses. Riley is going to own this conference along with Super Mario for the next 8 years. Jen didn’t open up the check book. USC finally said fuck it. That’s a problem. Curious as to why you think Riley won’t dominate.
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And USC's defense needs MAJOR work.
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Indeed. That defense is a dumpster fire and there's nothing that indicates Riley and Grinch can fix it. Look at Oklahoma's D every year under Riley/Grinch. It's moldy rotten shit. I don't get it.digits said:And USC's defense needs MAJOR work.
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Riley is a great hire by SC, but nothing is guaranteed.
He might find rebuilding the House that Clay built a little more difficult than being handed Stoops' baby coming off a sugar bowl win over Bama.
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Maybe he’s banking on the Pac-12 QB situation remaining the same as all the top rated ones leave the region other than who he brings to USC?CallMeBigErn said:
Indeed. That defense is a dumpster fire and there's nothing that indicates Riley and Grinch can fix it. Look at Oklahoma's D every year under Riley/Grinch. It's moldy rotten shit. I don't get it.digits said:And USC's defense needs MAJOR work.
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Said it in another thread, but USC is vulnerable for one year because of the talent void from their bad 2019/2020 classes. Riley will recruit and have them elite soon enough… but the Pac12 can prevent a landslide if we collectively keep them at 8-4 or 9-3 next season
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Riley wants to coach at the highest level. If he’s as good as he should be at USC, he’ll be gone in less than five years and be in the NFL.
There are no Sabans who stay at one place for 10-20 years anymore. If Saban wasn’t 106 years old, he’d move on, too.
Not sure what this has to do with UW, but we will all still be bitching and moaning about our? coach this year, next year and fucking forever. It’s what we do. -
Does this extend to the fan bases as well? Because some people seriously need it especially up in here...
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I'm sure he will get top QB talent just like he has at Oklahoma. That hasn't kept him from having unspeakable losses every year and numerous one-score victories in a shitty conference. He's barely beaten juggernauts like Army, Tulane, and Kansas and he's been repeatedly beaten by Kansas State, Iowa State, and Baylor despite talent advantages ... He's a very good coach but I wouldn't call him great yet until he fields a top 50 defense.WoolleyDoog said:
Maybe he’s banking on the Pac-12 QB situation remaining the same as all the top rated ones leave the region other than who he brings to USC?CallMeBigErn said:
Indeed. That defense is a dumpster fire and there's nothing that indicates Riley and Grinch can fix it. Look at Oklahoma's D every year under Riley/Grinch. It's moldy rotten shit. I don't get it.digits said:And USC's defense needs MAJOR work.
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Problem I have with the hire is USC and LSU swung for the fences and nailed it. Did UW even try? Did UW try to lure a lateral hire from a power 5? Going after a coach that would make WSU and Arizona excited just doesn’t make a lot of sense unless you tried and struck out everywhere else. I am hopeful this guy and his staff kill it, but very pessimistic at the lazy ass approach and failure to even try.
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You should PM @IrishDawg22, he has this place dialed in.ChillyDawg said:Does this extend to the fan bases as well? Because some people seriously need it especially up in here...
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Ironic.LawDawg1 said:Problem I have with the hire is USC and LSU swung for the fences and nailed it. Did UW even try? Did UW try to lure a lateral hire from a power 5? Going after a coach that would make WSU and Arizona excited just doesn’t make a lot of sense unless you tried and struck out everywhere else. I am hopeful this guy and his staff kill it, but very pessimistic at the lazy ass approach and failure to even try.
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When Mel Tucker got 9 million after going 8-1 the market changed
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Sorry to break it to you all but we've not been relevant for 30 years outside of a year with Pete.LawDawg1 said:Problem I have with the hire is USC and LSU swung for the fences and nailed it. Did UW even try? Did UW try to lure a lateral hire from a power 5? Going after a coach that would make WSU and Arizona excited just doesn’t make a lot of sense unless you tried and struck out everywhere else. I am hopeful this guy and his staff kill it, but very pessimistic at the lazy ass approach and failure to even try.
Forget recruits being alive, most coaches were kids at best.
Both USC and LSU have won NCs or multiple since "we" did.
Heck when replacing Owens we had to hire a guy from Kent State who was 7-4.
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Lame take. “Warren Winlock Miller Race Race Bannon Duckfighter Illustrated Bill Moos Olympia High School” trash Bill Beattie doesn’t deserve mention. Everyone knows Tumwater = Sid Otton. His grandsons, Cade and Ryan, should beat you. Repeatedly.Clevdawg said:Congratulations to Jen Cohen for hiring the best high school football coach west of Minneapolis. Reportedly Jen Pushed Hard For Chuck Tarbox of Juanita, Dee Hawkes from Bothell, Monte Kohler, O’Dea, Bill Beattie, Tumwater all quoted family concerns and a lack of commitment from upper campus in declining Jen’s overtures.
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