The Economist nails it
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Let’s start with your entitlements.Bendintheriver said:
The only time a rat like HH will mock "fairness" is when he wants to take your money for his politics. Otherwise "fairness" is every rats favorite word when they are trying purchase votes and enslave voters.HHusky said:
Assuming you’re talking about some sort of “fairness” concept, it should be pointed out that the appreciation on these assets was never taxed and that large estates are primarily composed of appreciated assets.Kaepsknee said:
So you believe that people should be taxed even more again when inheriting property or other assets that were ultimately paid for with after tax dollars in the first place.HHusky said:“Though rising total spending on the old is justified, a full-scale gerontocracy is not. Retirees with deep pockets do not need public handouts. On the contrary, they should bear a heavier burden as taxes shift from wages, towards property, inheritance and consumption.”
Time to stop engaging in this fantasy about lowering taxes when you have a society filled with old fuckers living on entitlements. The olds are too numerous and too wealthy overall not to be paying more.
Brilliant.
Hey HH, it isn't your money. You did shit to earn it or pay taxes on it the first time. Keep your fucking hands out of others pockets. The capital gains force many to liquidate the asset, that may not bother you because rats like to take other peoples money but it isn't right. Besides, the total collected isn't even going to move the needle when we are talking about rats spending trillions upon trillions.
How fucking vapid one must be to be a rat and believe that forcing people to sell the family farm so that rat politicians can piss the money away is a good and just thing to advocate?
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EmbarassingHHusky said:
You’re concerned about leaving a taxable estate? You’ve been sandbagging us then.RaceBannon said:
No its not. My money is mine and the same for all the other people that you are volunteering higher taxes forHHusky said:
It is, actually.RaceBannon said:
It's not your moneyHHusky said:
Assuming you’re talking about some sort of “fairness” concept, it should be pointed out that the appreciation on these assets was never taxed and that large estates are primarily composed of appreciated assets.Kaepsknee said:
So you believe that people should be taxed even more again when inheriting property or other assets that were ultimately paid for with after tax dollars in the first place.HHusky said:“Though rising total spending on the old is justified, a full-scale gerontocracy is not. Retirees with deep pockets do not need public handouts. On the contrary, they should bear a heavier burden as taxes shift from wages, towards property, inheritance and consumption.”
Time to stop engaging in this fantasy about lowering taxes when you have a society filled with old fuckers living on entitlements. The olds are too numerous and too wealthy overall not to be paying more.
Brilliant.
Fuck off
Fuck off
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Today, Social Security is the largest program in the federal budget and typically makes up almost one-quarter of total federal spending.Sep 1, 2021
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Sounds like your problem is with FDR and the progressives.HHusky said:“Though rising total spending on the old is justified, a full-scale gerontocracy is not. Retirees with deep pockets do not need public handouts. On the contrary, they should bear a heavier burden as taxes shift from wages, towards property, inheritance and consumption.”
Time to stop engaging in this fantasy about lowering taxes when you have a society filled with old fuckers living on entitlements. The olds are too numerous and too wealthy overall not to be paying more. -
Has anyone calculated the Medicare/Social Security savings that can be attributed to the vid. I bet it’s substantial.hardhat said:Death is the solution to all problems
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Sounds like 75% can be cut then. Math is hardHHusky said:Today, Social Security is the largest program in the federal budget and typically makes up almost one-quarter of total federal spending.Sep 1, 2021
And of course I paid in to SS and so did my employers. Too bad the folks you vote for looted it. -
There is no opt out on paying in to Social Security nor is there anything to stop the government from looting itMikeDamone said:
Sounds like your problem is with FDR and the progressives.HHusky said:“Though rising total spending on the old is justified, a full-scale gerontocracy is not. Retirees with deep pockets do not need public handouts. On the contrary, they should bear a heavier burden as taxes shift from wages, towards property, inheritance and consumption.”
Time to stop engaging in this fantasy about lowering taxes when you have a society filled with old fuckers living on entitlements. The olds are too numerous and too wealthy overall not to be paying more.
Madhoff died in prison for his Ponzi scheme -
Ha ha ha. Entitlements? WTF are those? I have never been entitled or given anything in my life. Are you one of those rats who thinks that everyone who is white, excluding yourself of course, was born with some sort of entitlement?HHusky said:
Let’s start with your entitlements.Bendintheriver said:
The only time a rat like HH will mock "fairness" is when he wants to take your money for his politics. Otherwise "fairness" is every rats favorite word when they are trying purchase votes and enslave voters.HHusky said:
Assuming you’re talking about some sort of “fairness” concept, it should be pointed out that the appreciation on these assets was never taxed and that large estates are primarily composed of appreciated assets.Kaepsknee said:
So you believe that people should be taxed even more again when inheriting property or other assets that were ultimately paid for with after tax dollars in the first place.HHusky said:“Though rising total spending on the old is justified, a full-scale gerontocracy is not. Retirees with deep pockets do not need public handouts. On the contrary, they should bear a heavier burden as taxes shift from wages, towards property, inheritance and consumption.”
Time to stop engaging in this fantasy about lowering taxes when you have a society filled with old fuckers living on entitlements. The olds are too numerous and too wealthy overall not to be paying more.
Brilliant.
Hey HH, it isn't your money. You did shit to earn it or pay taxes on it the first time. Keep your fucking hands out of others pockets. The capital gains force many to liquidate the asset, that may not bother you because rats like to take other peoples money but it isn't right. Besides, the total collected isn't even going to move the needle when we are talking about rats spending trillions upon trillions.
How fucking vapid one must be to be a rat and believe that forcing people to sell the family farm so that rat politicians can piss the money away is a good and just thing to advocate?
The government never needs to increase taxes. They need to cut spending. -
It never should have been put in place in the first place. A struggling young family paying 13% to transfer to older people who are spending their days in leisure is immoral. Should have never happened. Thanks once again to the progressives for their dumbass idea that further hurts the poor.HHusky said:
You can fly speck the sentence, but the idea that the numerous and wealthy should continue to be subsidized by the fewer and less wealthy does need revisiting.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Pretty sure inheritance taxes aren't taxes on the old but sure.gifHHusky said:“Though rising total spending on the old is justified, a full-scale gerontocracy is not. Retirees with deep pockets do not need public handouts. On the contrary, they should bear a heavier burden as taxes shift from wages, towards property, inheritance and consumption.”
Time to stop engaging in this fantasy about lowering taxes when you have a society filled with old fuckers living on entitlements. The olds are too numerous and too wealthy overall not to be paying more. -
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Nope. The only hope is to live long enough to get some of the stolen money back.RaceBannon said:
There is no opt out on paying in to Social Security nor is there anything to stop the government from looting itMikeDamone said:
Sounds like your problem is with FDR and the progressives.HHusky said:“Though rising total spending on the old is justified, a full-scale gerontocracy is not. Retirees with deep pockets do not need public handouts. On the contrary, they should bear a heavier burden as taxes shift from wages, towards property, inheritance and consumption.”
Time to stop engaging in this fantasy about lowering taxes when you have a society filled with old fuckers living on entitlements. The olds are too numerous and too wealthy overall not to be paying more.
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Only the Dazzler can think if someone steals your stuff, and gives some of it back, they are giving you something.Bendintheriver said:
Ha ha ha. Entitlements? WTF are those? I have never been entitled or given anything in my life. Are you one of those rats who thinks that everyone who is white, excluding yourself of course, was born with some sort of entitlement?HHusky said:
Let’s start with your entitlements.Bendintheriver said:
The only time a rat like HH will mock "fairness" is when he wants to take your money for his politics. Otherwise "fairness" is every rats favorite word when they are trying purchase votes and enslave voters.HHusky said:
Assuming you’re talking about some sort of “fairness” concept, it should be pointed out that the appreciation on these assets was never taxed and that large estates are primarily composed of appreciated assets.Kaepsknee said:
So you believe that people should be taxed even more again when inheriting property or other assets that were ultimately paid for with after tax dollars in the first place.HHusky said:“Though rising total spending on the old is justified, a full-scale gerontocracy is not. Retirees with deep pockets do not need public handouts. On the contrary, they should bear a heavier burden as taxes shift from wages, towards property, inheritance and consumption.”
Time to stop engaging in this fantasy about lowering taxes when you have a society filled with old fuckers living on entitlements. The olds are too numerous and too wealthy overall not to be paying more.
Brilliant.
Hey HH, it isn't your money. You did shit to earn it or pay taxes on it the first time. Keep your fucking hands out of others pockets. The capital gains force many to liquidate the asset, that may not bother you because rats like to take other peoples money but it isn't right. Besides, the total collected isn't even going to move the needle when we are talking about rats spending trillions upon trillions.
How fucking vapid one must be to be a rat and believe that forcing people to sell the family farm so that rat politicians can piss the money away is a good and just thing to advocate?
The government never needs to increase taxes. They need to cut spending. -
I'm like Bob. I paid into social security with an employer match at the maximum social security base for decades. Put into a IRA and invested into a S&P 500 index and my retirement would be boosted by millions. But, my Mom probably paid in less than $100 in Social Security and yet pulled out at least $400,000 out of it. Today, young people will be lucky to get anything out of it. The social security fund, no matter how much people who just retired got screwed, was never actuarily sound. Then toss in the social security disability scam. No serious vetting and like all government program designed to deal out benefits with little accountability.HHusky said:Today, Social Security is the largest program in the federal budget and typically makes up almost one-quarter of total federal spending.Sep 1, 2021
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Atl says no to Social Security and Medicare.Bendintheriver said:
Ha ha ha. Entitlements? WTF are those? I have never been entitled or given anything in my life. Are you one of those rats who thinks that everyone who is white, excluding yourself of course, was born with some sort of entitlement?HHusky said:
Let’s start with your entitlements.Bendintheriver said:
The only time a rat like HH will mock "fairness" is when he wants to take your money for his politics. Otherwise "fairness" is every rats favorite word when they are trying purchase votes and enslave voters.HHusky said:
Assuming you’re talking about some sort of “fairness” concept, it should be pointed out that the appreciation on these assets was never taxed and that large estates are primarily composed of appreciated assets.Kaepsknee said:
So you believe that people should be taxed even more again when inheriting property or other assets that were ultimately paid for with after tax dollars in the first place.HHusky said:“Though rising total spending on the old is justified, a full-scale gerontocracy is not. Retirees with deep pockets do not need public handouts. On the contrary, they should bear a heavier burden as taxes shift from wages, towards property, inheritance and consumption.”
Time to stop engaging in this fantasy about lowering taxes when you have a society filled with old fuckers living on entitlements. The olds are too numerous and too wealthy overall not to be paying more.
Brilliant.
Hey HH, it isn't your money. You did shit to earn it or pay taxes on it the first time. Keep your fucking hands out of others pockets. The capital gains force many to liquidate the asset, that may not bother you because rats like to take other peoples money but it isn't right. Besides, the total collected isn't even going to move the needle when we are talking about rats spending trillions upon trillions.
How fucking vapid one must be to be a rat and believe that forcing people to sell the family farm so that rat politicians can piss the money away is a good and just thing to advocate?
The government never needs to increase taxes. They need to cut spending.
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Lots of righteous indignation about what shouldn't have happened. Not very helpful in deciding what to do now that it already happened.MikeDamone said:
It never should have been put in place in the first place. A struggling young family paying 13% to transfer to older people who are spending their days in leisure is immoral. Should have never happened. Thanks once again to the progressives for their dumbass idea that further hurts the poor.HHusky said:
You can fly speck the sentence, but the idea that the numerous and wealthy should continue to be subsidized by the fewer and less wealthy does need revisiting.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Pretty sure inheritance taxes aren't taxes on the old but sure.gifHHusky said:“Though rising total spending on the old is justified, a full-scale gerontocracy is not. Retirees with deep pockets do not need public handouts. On the contrary, they should bear a heavier burden as taxes shift from wages, towards property, inheritance and consumption.”
Time to stop engaging in this fantasy about lowering taxes when you have a society filled with old fuckers living on entitlements. The olds are too numerous and too wealthy overall not to be paying more. -
PressingHHusky said:
Atl says no to Social Security and Medicare.Bendintheriver said:
Ha ha ha. Entitlements? WTF are those? I have never been entitled or given anything in my life. Are you one of those rats who thinks that everyone who is white, excluding yourself of course, was born with some sort of entitlement?HHusky said:
Let’s start with your entitlements.Bendintheriver said:
The only time a rat like HH will mock "fairness" is when he wants to take your money for his politics. Otherwise "fairness" is every rats favorite word when they are trying purchase votes and enslave voters.HHusky said:
Assuming you’re talking about some sort of “fairness” concept, it should be pointed out that the appreciation on these assets was never taxed and that large estates are primarily composed of appreciated assets.Kaepsknee said:
So you believe that people should be taxed even more again when inheriting property or other assets that were ultimately paid for with after tax dollars in the first place.HHusky said:“Though rising total spending on the old is justified, a full-scale gerontocracy is not. Retirees with deep pockets do not need public handouts. On the contrary, they should bear a heavier burden as taxes shift from wages, towards property, inheritance and consumption.”
Time to stop engaging in this fantasy about lowering taxes when you have a society filled with old fuckers living on entitlements. The olds are too numerous and too wealthy overall not to be paying more.
Brilliant.
Hey HH, it isn't your money. You did shit to earn it or pay taxes on it the first time. Keep your fucking hands out of others pockets. The capital gains force many to liquidate the asset, that may not bother you because rats like to take other peoples money but it isn't right. Besides, the total collected isn't even going to move the needle when we are talking about rats spending trillions upon trillions.
How fucking vapid one must be to be a rat and believe that forcing people to sell the family farm so that rat politicians can piss the money away is a good and just thing to advocate?
The government never needs to increase taxes. They need to cut spending.
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I paid both halves.RaceBannon said:
Sounds like 75% can be cut then. Math is hardHHusky said:Today, Social Security is the largest program in the federal budget and typically makes up almost one-quarter of total federal spending.Sep 1, 2021
And of course I paid in to SS and so did my employers. Too bad the folks you vote for looted it.
So what?
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So no one wants to cut their own entitlements.MikeDamone said:
PressingHHusky said:
Atl says no to Social Security and Medicare.Bendintheriver said:
Ha ha ha. Entitlements? WTF are those? I have never been entitled or given anything in my life. Are you one of those rats who thinks that everyone who is white, excluding yourself of course, was born with some sort of entitlement?HHusky said:
Let’s start with your entitlements.Bendintheriver said:
The only time a rat like HH will mock "fairness" is when he wants to take your money for his politics. Otherwise "fairness" is every rats favorite word when they are trying purchase votes and enslave voters.HHusky said:
Assuming you’re talking about some sort of “fairness” concept, it should be pointed out that the appreciation on these assets was never taxed and that large estates are primarily composed of appreciated assets.Kaepsknee said:
So you believe that people should be taxed even more again when inheriting property or other assets that were ultimately paid for with after tax dollars in the first place.HHusky said:“Though rising total spending on the old is justified, a full-scale gerontocracy is not. Retirees with deep pockets do not need public handouts. On the contrary, they should bear a heavier burden as taxes shift from wages, towards property, inheritance and consumption.”
Time to stop engaging in this fantasy about lowering taxes when you have a society filled with old fuckers living on entitlements. The olds are too numerous and too wealthy overall not to be paying more.
Brilliant.
Hey HH, it isn't your money. You did shit to earn it or pay taxes on it the first time. Keep your fucking hands out of others pockets. The capital gains force many to liquidate the asset, that may not bother you because rats like to take other peoples money but it isn't right. Besides, the total collected isn't even going to move the needle when we are talking about rats spending trillions upon trillions.
How fucking vapid one must be to be a rat and believe that forcing people to sell the family farm so that rat politicians can piss the money away is a good and just thing to advocate?
The government never needs to increase taxes. They need to cut spending.
Principled!
Seems like I predicted that.
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Madam, all I asked is which of you will vote to stop your own stream of payments.WestlinnDuck said:
I'm like Bob. I paid into social security with an employer match at the maximum social security base for decades. Put into a IRA and invested into a S&P 500 index and my retirement would be boosted by millions. But, my Mom probably paid in less than $100 in Social Security and yet pulled out at least $400,000 out of it. Today, young people will be lucky to get anything out of it. The social security fund, no matter how much people who just retired got screwed, was never actuarily sound. Then toss in the social security disability scam. No serious vetting and like all government program designed to deal out benefits with little accountability.HHusky said:Today, Social Security is the largest program in the federal budget and typically makes up almost one-quarter of total federal spending.Sep 1, 2021
No one, apparently.
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In 2020, the share of U.S. federal budget spent on Medicare was 12 percent, a four-times increase since 1970. If current laws stand, the share of federal spending on Medicare could rise to one fifth of total budget by 2051.
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HHusky said:
I’m with you, but there’s just not the level of support for the idea we need.hardhat said:Death is the solution to all problems
Suggestion: take a second to organize your thoughts before posting, so that you don’t have to invariably post twice within a time span of a minute or two. I understand you think you have so much to say you must respond to everything, but it is really just annoying.HHusky said:
You can fly speck the sentence, but the idea that the numerous and wealthy should continue to be subsidized by the fewer and less wealthy does need revisiting.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Pretty sure inheritance taxes aren't taxes on the old but sure.gifHHusky said:“Though rising total spending on the old is justified, a full-scale gerontocracy is not. Retirees with deep pockets do not need public handouts. On the contrary, they should bear a heavier burden as taxes shift from wages, towards property, inheritance and consumption.”
Time to stop engaging in this fantasy about lowering taxes when you have a society filled with old fuckers living on entitlements. The olds are too numerous and too wealthy overall not to be paying more. -
Reading the bored poasts is still a voluntary activity.SkipBoyd said:HHusky said:
I’m with you, but there’s just not the level of support for the idea we need.hardhat said:Death is the solution to all problems
Suggestion: take a second to organize your thoughts before posting, so that you don’t have to invariably post twice within a time span of a minute or two. I understand you think you have so much to say you must respond to everything, but it is really just annoying.HHusky said:
You can fly speck the sentence, but the idea that the numerous and wealthy should continue to be subsidized by the fewer and less wealthy does need revisiting.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Pretty sure inheritance taxes aren't taxes on the old but sure.gifHHusky said:“Though rising total spending on the old is justified, a full-scale gerontocracy is not. Retirees with deep pockets do not need public handouts. On the contrary, they should bear a heavier burden as taxes shift from wages, towards property, inheritance and consumption.”
Time to stop engaging in this fantasy about lowering taxes when you have a society filled with old fuckers living on entitlements. The olds are too numerous and too wealthy overall not to be paying more. -
Asked and answeredHHusky said:
I paid both halves.RaceBannon said:
Sounds like 75% can be cut then. Math is hardHHusky said:Today, Social Security is the largest program in the federal budget and typically makes up almost one-quarter of total federal spending.Sep 1, 2021
And of course I paid in to SS and so did my employers. Too bad the folks you vote for looted it.
So what?
Which of you is going to vote to end the payments flowing to you?
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You know what we need? More chain migration in which legal aliens bring over there parents and grandparents and then stick them on medicare. That's a solution that would definitely take an MBA to figure out.HHusky said:In 2020, the share of U.S. federal budget spent on Medicare was 12 percent, a four-times increase since 1970. If current laws stand, the share of federal spending on Medicare could rise to one fifth of total budget by 2051.
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Doesn’t seem like Gasbag is committing to cut his own entitlements.WestlinnDuck said:
You know what we need? More chain migration in which legal aliens bring over there parents and grandparents and then stick them on medicare. That's a solution that would definitely take an MBA to figure out.HHusky said:In 2020, the share of U.S. federal budget spent on Medicare was 12 percent, a four-times increase since 1970. If current laws stand, the share of federal spending on Medicare could rise to one fifth of total budget by 2051.
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H has successfully argued that social security isn't an entitlement but is an income tax
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No, but I'll play, suppose *we don't pay "high taxes" because we are poors.HHusky said:HHusky said:Did anyone actually go look at their effective rate of taxation?
You girls are great at telling me what someone could pay.
So your answer is No.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I notice you completely ignored my other comment. Real head scratcher as to why.HHusky said:Did anyone actually go look at their effective rate of taxation?
You girls are great at telling me what someone could pay.
Do you think we should be paying higher taxes commensurate with spending?HHusky said:
You couldn’t tell my answer is Yes?UW_Doog_Bot said:
So no answer. White flag.UW_Doog_Bot said:
No, but I'll play, suppose *we don't pay "high taxes" because we are poors.HHusky said:HHusky said:Did anyone actually go look at their effective rate of taxation?
You girls are great at telling me what someone could pay.
So your answer is No.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I notice you completely ignored my other comment. Real head scratcher as to why.HHusky said:Did anyone actually go look at their effective rate of taxation?
You girls are great at telling me what someone could pay.
Do you think we should be paying higher taxes commensurate with spending?
That’s on you.
In general, we should raise the money we want to spend. And we should raise it from those who have it.HHusky said:
Might have been voices in your head.UW_Doog_Bot said:
You're contradicting yourself. I heard from you we need to raise taxes on the lower class.HHusky said:
You can fly speck the sentence, but the idea that the numerous and wealthy should continue to be subsidized by the fewer and less wealthy does need revisiting.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Pretty sure inheritance taxes aren't taxes on the old but sure.gifHHusky said:“Though rising total spending on the old is justified, a full-scale gerontocracy is not. Retirees with deep pockets do not need public handouts. On the contrary, they should bear a heavier burden as taxes shift from wages, towards property, inheritance and consumption.”
Time to stop engaging in this fantasy about lowering taxes when you have a society filled with old fuckers living on entitlements. The olds are too numerous and too wealthy overall not to be paying more. -
More from the more fiscally responsible alternative party. Build Back Better through more "infrastructure" It's almost like the dems and the US Chamber of Commerce want more cheap labor to phuck over the American worker.
https://justthenews.com/government/congress/scalise-spending-bill-includes-giving-out-630000-green-cards-foreign-workers
The Democrats' $1.75 trillion spending bill includes making 630,000 unused green cards available to foreign workers and their families, House Minority Whip Steve Scalise (R-La.) revealed Monday.
Scalise noted that in the 2,135-page spending bill, there is a provision under Section 60002 to make about 630,000 unused green cards available to foreigners while many Americans are unemployed or underemployed.
Since President Biden took office, over 1.4 million illegal immigrants have been arrested along the southern border, which is more than the population of the ninth-largest city in America, Dallas, Texas, Scalise added.
The congressman tweeted out on Monday: "Dems' radical spending bill exposed: Green cards for migrants and their families without limits. The provision eliminates current caps and immediately makes approximately 630,000 cards available. It's their way of sneaking their open-borders agenda into this bill."
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Fuck the fuck off. There is no reason 'society' deserves the benefit of living frugally, investing soundly and leaving behind something for one's family. Or to charity or whoever the fuck they want?HHusky said:“Though rising total spending on the old is justified, a full-scale gerontocracy is not. Retirees with deep pockets do not need public handouts. On the contrary, they should bear a heavier burden as taxes shift from wages, towards property, inheritance and consumption.”
Time to stop engaging in this fantasy about lowering taxes when you have a society filled with old fuckers living on entitlements. The olds are too numerous and too wealthy overall not to be paying more.
Fuck off. FUCK OFF.
How about the government live within its means and stay the fuck out of the income distribution game?
FUCK OFF.
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Throbber just wonders why we can't all be characters in Atlas Shrugged.PurpleThrobber said:
Fuck the fuck off. There is no reason 'society' deserves the benefit of living frugally, investing soundly and leaving behind something for one's family. Or to charity or whoever the fuck they want?HHusky said:“Though rising total spending on the old is justified, a full-scale gerontocracy is not. Retirees with deep pockets do not need public handouts. On the contrary, they should bear a heavier burden as taxes shift from wages, towards property, inheritance and consumption.”
Time to stop engaging in this fantasy about lowering taxes when you have a society filled with old fuckers living on entitlements. The olds are too numerous and too wealthy overall not to be paying more.
Fuck off. FUCK OFF.
How about the government live within its means and stay the fuck out of the income distribution game?
FUCK OFF.
Social security is plainly an entitlement. Don't make blob come here and correct you.RaceBannon said:H has successfully argued that social security isn't an entitlement but is an income tax
So mission accomplished there
Even though that destroyed his "point"
