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Tequilla
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I appreciate Tracy’s hustle and looking out for his brother
I appreciate that kids got to do what’s in their best interest
But publicly stating last night that Mario’s building Oregon into the Alabama of the West Coast when your brother is on staff at that school’s biggest rival … just sits wrong with me to then say that next UW coach better keep his brother on staff
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It’s almost like his judgment is clouded.Tequilla said:
I appreciate Tracy’s hustle and looking out for his brother
I appreciate that kids got to do what’s in their best interest
But publicly stating last night that Mario’s building Oregon into the Alabama of the West Coast when your brother is on staff at that school’s biggest rival … just sits wrong with me to then say that next UW coach better keep his brother on staff -
I want his brother fired just for that commentTequilla said:
I appreciate Tracy’s hustle and looking out for his brother
I appreciate that kids got to do what’s in their best interest
But publicly stating last night that Mario’s building Oregon into the Alabama of the West Coast when your brother is on staff at that school’s biggest rival … just sits wrong with me to then say that next UW coach better keep his brother on staff
Alabama destroys the trash of their conference. Oregon barely squeeks by, or in Stanfords case, loses -
He hasn’t exactly been sending all his top talent to UW lately, which is kind of why his brother had a job. Takes two to tango Tracy.
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He’s a fucking idiot but he has the in state talent so he can gate keep it.
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It’s why I didn’t really like the hire to start …
It was done almost exclusively to aid in establishing the link to the shady AAU hoops world that has seeped into football with the 7x7 underwear Olympics
So it basically sets up Tracy’s brother to land a high % of these players or if not he becomes either dead weight on the payroll or fired
There’s really no way to resolve the relationship without Tracy taking it personal and there’s no way that’s a long term positive for UW -
Tracy Ford gonna Tracy Ford.
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How many FSP kids have committed to UW since Tracy’s brother was hired? Oh wait that’s right, almost none
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and say the number of Ford Sports kids who choose UW with Thomas Ford on staff is the exact same as the number of Ford Sports kids who choose UW without Thomas Ford on staff
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All of it's overstated. I have no idea if his brother is of any value. The new guy can judge that. Tracy also doesn't have the leverage a lot of you think he does.
A good recruiter will sell a kid regardless of what his trainer thinks (and I don't think Tracy is one to go all scorched earth and jeopardize his own reputation out of spite anyways). And winning trumps everything. As always. -
Power I agree with you onGreenRiverGatorz said:All of it's overstated. I have no idea if his brother is of any value. The new guy can judge that. Tracy also doesn't have the leverage a lot of you think he does.
A good recruiter will sell a kid regardless of what his trainer thinks (and I don't think Tracy is one to go all scorched earth and jeopardize his own reputation out of spite anyways). And winning trumps everything. As always.
Where I disagree is that he has the ability to be chilly if things go south and that vibe has the chance to indirectly be a negative going forward … the whole perception is reality thing -
What a preening bitch.
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Sure, lots of things are/can be a negative. But I don't believe Tracy will ever have a material impact on our recruiting. If he did, we would've seen results from his brother being on staff.Tequilla said:
Power I agree with you on
Where I disagree is that he has the ability to be chilly if things go south and that vibe has the chance to indirectly be a negative going forward … the whole perception is reality thing -
Like the frog and the scorpion. Everyone to their own nature.PurpleThrobber said:Tracy Ford gonna Tracy Ford.
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The world of basketball is a little different, but this is exactly what happened with Roy Williams at UNC. Won titles in 2005 and 2009, Top 5 classes. Then came John Wall and his AAU handlers around 2009. He was interested in UNC, but Roy basically told his handlers to fuck off because he didn't deal with those guys, the "uncles," all that bullshit. He dealt with high school coaches and families. So Wall signed with Kentucky and poisoned the well throughout the AAU circuit for years about how Roy didn't develop NBA guys, his style was outdated, etc. (note the NC over Gonzaga a few years later). After that, the classes started coming in #15 or so, with the lone bright spot whenever he could convince a legacy or an OKG-type from Iowa or Minnesota to come.Tequilla said:
Power I agree with you on
Where I disagree is that he has the ability to be chilly if things go south and that vibe has the chance to indirectly be a negative going forward … the whole perception is reality thing
For my money, though, it's worth it not to sell your soul. Tracy can go fuck off.
1. What has it helped us so far? We aren't getting the top WA kids NOW, so what good is it?
2. He claims he doesn't steer kids. So if he doesn't, why do we need an 'in' with FSP?
3. Owing somebody something in this game NEVER works out, from what I can tell. Look at USC promising the starting job to JT Daniels. For what? He got hurt, lost his job, you lost the team bc they knew starting him was bullshit, you look weak, JT transferred anyway. Look at all the recruiting "package deals" that never amount to shit. At worst you end up losing the good player if he doesn't turn out and then you're stuck with a wasted scholarship. Look at Tennessee paying $ to Tootoot and Alabama to Kaho. Both gone. I'm sure it works sometimes, but if it doesn't you risk losing your team.
If we hire a good enough coach, it won't matter. I'm not saying I believe any particular rumor, but can you imagine Bob Stoops thinking, "Oh no, I better keep Tracy Ford on my good side! Whatever will I do without his stamp of approval?" -
Tracy Ford is classic AAU program ego. They are quite convincing that THEY and they only are the magic sauce to get a kid a schollie somewhere. These days there are Tracy Fords In every moderate sized city in the country. Some are grifter hanger ons, some know their stuff. There’s more grifters than true trainers.DerekJohnson said:
Like the frog and the scorpion. Everyone to their own nature.
They reality is genetics is the biggest determinant.
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Tom Herman actively caring about FSPs opinion
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So even if we get a decent coach, Tracy Ford's gonna be butthurt and will not allow any of his special talent to go to UW.
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This is the FSP that made Black Beast and Ahmed slower for their pro day, right?
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Without actually clicking the article, let me guess - Brandon Huffman wrote it?
