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Sark's post-game press conference

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  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,107
    Bonedog said:

    Humanity’s relationship with alcohol is almost as old as civilization itself. Almost as soon as people discovered fermentation, it became apparent that some people could become dependent on alcohol. In 1784, physician and father of the American temperance movement, Benjamin Rush, identified an “uncontrollable and irresistible desire to consume alcohol” among certain people.(1) For most of human history, however, alcoholism was seen as a moral shortcoming or a lack of discipline.

    People suffering from alcoholism were said to be “unable to hold their liquor”. This misconception has stubbornly persisted into the present day, unfortunately. Why laypeople might view alcoholism this way is somewhat understandable. Most of us are still conditioned to think of disease only as an acquired infection like influenza or an illness like cancer. Others see the disease model as a “cop-out” or an attempt by the addict or alcoholic to shirk responsibility. Mental illness in general, is still widely misunderstood and unfortunately can carry a certain stigma.

    Alcoholism is Classified as a Disease

    Some may be surprised to know that the debate over whether to categorize alcoholism and addiction as a disease was largely settled in the medical and scientific community more than 60 years ago. In fact, the American Medical Association formally recognized alcoholism and addiction as a disease as early as 1956. (2) The AMA’s position was even cited in the U.S. Supreme Court case (Budd v. California, 385 U.S. 909 (1966) (3). Dr. William Silkworth of New York City’s Towns Hospital is widely recognized as the first clinician to study and endorse the disease model of alcoholism. His pioneering work in treating alcoholics and advising the founders of Alcoholic Anonymous was directly responsible for transforming the way the medical community viewed alcoholism.

    As Alcoholics Anonymous grew as a new resource for people struggling with alcohol, clinicians and scientists began to study the phenomenon of alcoholism and addiction from a different point of view. In the past, most chronic relapse patients were seen as “lost causes”, destined to be institutionalized for what was left of their lives. Following the work of Dr. Silkworth and others, they recognized that medical treatment combined with social intervention and therapy was yielding more promising results than anyone had seen with traditional methods alone. Today alcohol dependence is understood as a disease and listed as such in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) published by the American Psychiatric Association (APA).

    Treatment for Alcoholism is Still Evolving

    Thanks to the revolution in gene research, we are beginning to unravel the genetic component which makes some people so much more susceptible to chronic alcohol abuse. Two genes related to alcohol metabolism, ADH1B and ALDH2 have shown the strongest correlation with the risk of alcoholism. (4) The greater scientific understanding of the roots of alcoholism paired with a more data-driven approach to treatment has brought a new era in addiction treatment to fruition. Perhaps more than ever, the medical and recovery communities are working as partners and the long-term efficacy of treatment for alcoholism is the focus. It’s widely accepted that recognizing alcoholism as a disease was the essential sea change that needed to occur for more effective treatment to begin to be developed.

    (1) https://academic.oup.com/alcalc/article/35/1/10/142396
    (2) https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/318639
    (3) https://www.ama-assn.org/delivering-care/public-health/court-listened-ama-defining-alcoholism-disease-not-crime
    (4) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4056340/
    Disagree

    Alcoholism, obesity, drug addiction, sex addiction. All ties back to lack of self control and discipline.

    If you want to call that a mental illness, SarkSure.gif

    It's not a fucking disease and it's insulting to someone that has a fucking disease.
  • SourcesSources Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 4,308 Founders Club

    Disagree

    Alcoholism, obesity, drug addiction, sex addiction. All ties back to lack of self control and discipline.

    If you want to call that a mental illness, SarkSure.gif

    It's not a fucking disease and it's insulting to someone that has a fucking disease.

  • BonedogBonedog Member Posts: 650
    edited November 2021

    Disagree

    Alcoholism, obesity, drug addiction, sex addiction. All ties back to lack of self control and discipline.

    If you want to call that a mental illness, SarkSure.gif

    It's not a fucking disease and it's insulting to someone that has a fucking disease.
    Wrong! Ever see anyone die a alcoholic death? They couldn’t stop drinking? No amount of will power or choice could stop them? Alcoholic decease centers in the mind. Diabetes is a disease and the diabetic can take insulin for it. The alcoholics only avenue is abstinence and spiritual help period.
  • FremontTrollFremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744

    PK has actually been Sark's problem, weirdly...

    Sark is PK’s problem. Sark’s program is rotting from the top, as expected.
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,107

    Sark is PK’s problem. Sark’s program is rotting from the top, as expected.
    His offense is scoring points. PKs defense is really fucking bad.
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,107
    edited November 2021
    Bonedog said:

    Wrong! Ever see anyone die a alcoholic death? They couldn’t stop drinking? No amount of will power or choice could stop them? Alcoholic decease centers in the mind. Diabetes is a disease and the diabetic can take insulin for it. The alcoholics only avenue is abstinence and spiritual help period.

    https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=alcoholism+is+not+a+disease&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart#d=gs_qabs&u=#p=m4vwUrvxGi0J

    https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=alcoholism+is+not+a+disease&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart#d=gs_qabs&u=#p=v3hDrAkF7J0J

    https://www.baldwinresearch.com/alcoholism.cfm

    https://nypost.com/2015/07/12/addiction-is-not-a-disease-and-were-treating-drug-and-alcohol-addicts-wrong/

    https://rehabs.com/pro-talk/how-and-why-addiction-is-not-a-disease-a-neuroscientist-challenges-traditional-views/



    It's really easy to take the cop out path and call it a disease. I get it.

    Some people, whether by nature or nurture or environment, are more prone to the pleasure response from damaging behaviors. People are different, riveting stuff.

    Again, equating an alcoholic to someone dying of cancer is a fucking joke and sums up pretty much everything wrong with modern society.

  • QuietcowskeeQuietcowskee Member Posts: 4,171
    The 12 steps are about taking responsibility fuckos. Sark sucks and he’s supposed to know it.
  • FremontTrollFremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744

    His offense is scoring points. PKs defense is really fucking bad.
    The offense and defense are both Sark’s responsibility. He is head coach not coordinator. HTH.
  • AtomicDawgAtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,324

    The offense and defense are both Sark’s responsibility. He is head coach not coordinator. HTH.
    The offense has sucked plenty also.

    Arkansas
    Baylor
    Osu

    The team just finds a way to lose.
  • BonedogBonedog Member Posts: 650


    https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=alcoholism+is+not+a+disease&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart#d=gs_qabs&u=#p=m4vwUrvxGi0J

    https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=alcoholism+is+not+a+disease&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart#d=gs_qabs&u=#p=v3hDrAkF7J0J

    https://www.baldwinresearch.com/alcoholism.cfm

    https://nypost.com/2015/07/12/addiction-is-not-a-disease-and-were-treating-drug-and-alcohol-addicts-wrong/

    https://rehabs.com/pro-talk/how-and-why-addiction-is-not-a-disease-a-neuroscientist-challenges-traditional-views/



    It's really easy to take the cop out path and call it a disease. I get it.

    Some people, whether by nature or nurture or environment, are more prone to the pleasure response from damaging behaviors. People are different, riveting stuff.

    Again, equating an alcoholic to someone dying of cancer is a fucking joke and sums up pretty much everything wrong with modern society.

    We agree to disagree. We agree JL fucking sucks though
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,107

    The offense and defense are both Sark’s responsibility. He is head coach not coordinator. HTH.
    Jesus fucking Christ you are asinine

    Unlike Jimmy hiring Donovan which is a fucking disaster on paper and on the field, Sark hiring Kwat was a fucking slam dunk on paper.

    And Kwat is getting ass fucked by fucking KANSAS

    Hope this fucking helps.
  • chuckchuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,658 Swaye's Wigwam

    His offense is scoring points. PKs defense is really fucking bad.
    PK is his employee and he's responsible for his performance. PK was a successful and respected coordinator before he saddled himself with Sark. His shittiness is 100% on Sarkisian.
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,107
    chuck said:

    PK is his employee and he's responsible for his performance. PK was a successful and respected coordinator before he saddled himself with Sark. His shittiness is 100% on Sarkisian.
    Is it that, or is the scheme horrible without elite DTs and secondary and PK refuses to adapt?

    Sark was leading Oklahoma by 21 in the second quarter.

    I get that the headcoach is ultimately responsible for the team's performance, but Kwat has been an unmitigated disaster so far.
  • dtddtd Member Posts: 5,198 Standard Supporter
    Sources said:


    God damnit Otto, you've got lupus!
  • GladstoneGladstone Member Posts: 16,419
    Remember, Wilcox crushed it as a DC everywhere save for Sark at USC. He struggled and was scapegoated, going to Wisconsin afterwards and immediately improving their defense. I feel bad for Kwat, although he did tether to Sark willingly. He knew Lake was DOA but maybe the money was too great to turn down.
  • CFetters_Nacho_LoverCFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,058 Founders Club

    Disagree

    Alcoholism, obesity, drug addiction, sex addiction. All ties back to lack of self control and discipline.

    If you want to call that a mental illness, SarkSure.gif

    It's not a fucking disease and it's insulting to someone that has a fucking disease.
    How dare you say my disease isn’t a disease?
  • GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    Gladstone said:

    Remember, Wilcox crushed it as a DC everywhere save for Sark at USC. He struggled and was scapegoated, going to Wisconsin afterwards and immediately improving their defense. I feel bad for Kwat, although he did tether to Sark willingly. He knew Lake was DOA but maybe the money was too great to turn down.

    But Wilcox was also good when Sark was at UW, so that's a bit of a hole in the narrative.

    I have no problem recognizing that Sark deserves a lion's share of the blame for his shitty defenses at multiple stops. But Kwat also deserves every bit of criticism for this current atrocity that he's in charge of. As great as he was here, he clearly couldn't translate that to success at Texas, and you'd have to twist yourself into knots to not blame him for that shit stain of a D he rolls out every week.
  • DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 67,954 Founders Club
    Bonedog said:

    Id take 7 win Steve over Jimmy Fake



    I'd take Keith Gilbertson over Jimmy Lake. So? coach_pete_JPG said: RaceBannon said:

    I’m most curious what he’s going to kick with 4 letters…


    Had the same question. Narrowed it down to cunt or arse
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