The Sneak Revisited
But, after watching it again, Wattenberg actually engaged his defender and moved him 3 yards downfield. He was the only lineman that actually got any push. The rest of the line ... horrifying to watch.
Our right tackle and right guard get off the ball slow, and then slant left. They never directly engage the defenders in front of them. The defenders get off quickly enough that they just shoot the gaps between the guard/center and tackle/guard. The d-linemen are already a yard deep in our backfield before our o-linemen engage with them, and then when they do engage with them they push them directly into the path of Morris (or, in the case of our right tackle, he whiffs entirely).
This explains how Wattenberg managed to get so far downfield, on a sneak, relatively unscathed by the pile. As he vacated and got push on the d-lineman in front of him, the vacancy gets immediately filed by the other d-linemen that our o-line pushes into that spot ... stopping Morris in his tracks.
Worse than all of that, is our left guard. He does not make contact with the d-lineman that is across from him until AFTER Morris is already stopped. That's how late he was getting off the snap. I know that Morris slanted away from our left guard, but it's still stunning to watch how slow our left guard gets off the snap. Of all of our lineman not named Wattenberg, only our left tackle seems to get off the ball with any urgency, and since the sneak went to the right, it made no difference.
Our linemen were incredibly slow off the ball ... and worse yet ... the entire blocking scheme seemed designed to push defenders directly into the path of the QB, rather than firing out straight ahead and getting a 1.5 yard push. It's a mess.
You can fast forward this video to 15:40 if you want to see it for yourself. Have a vomit bag nearby.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPvtjo40UuYComments
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Not sure what blocking scheme other than a wedge do you expect on a qb sneak. Now getting off the ball with some anticipation is something to be desired.
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Jesus why are you rewatching this abomination?
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great detail - now can you do the same on Davis' fumble
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You don’t sneak from a full yard … that’s just fucking stupid
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running that play with a qb like Eason who is 6'6" 230 pounds makes a little bit of sense. The guy can fall forward and get a yard. Dylan Morris 6'0" 200 pounds (maybe) is STUPID. Let's not forget our lesbian center who can't push his man forward 3 feet.
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I'm surprised their safeties aren't 20 yards off the line of scrimmage.
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I don’t really even remember that play. I must’ve been pretty drunk by that time
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Small issue, but why have the WR’s so far inside?huskyhooligan said:
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Going for it was the correct call.
QB sneak on a long 1.5 yards was fucking retarded.
Not understanding that it was a tie game late in the 4th, you have 3 time outs, your defense is shit, and the play was probably going to determine the game so you try to draw them offsides and then call a timeout and make sure everyone is on the same page for a pleasant/mcgrew handoff after the timeout is extra special retarded -
Punting might have worked but it would have been too pussy of a move. It was a bit long for a sneak. Also, other than the 3rd down run by McGrew, we had been gashing them in the 2nd half.Houhusky said:Going for it was the correct call.
QB sneak on a long 1.5 yards was fucking retarded.
Not understanding that it was a tie game late in the 4th, you have 3 time outs, your defense is shit, and the play was probably going to determine the game so you try to draw them offsides and then call a timeout and make sure everyone is on the same page for a pleasant/mcgrew handoff after the timeout is extra special retarded -
It only makes some sense if you’re planning on running wide and looking to have the WRs seal the edge on a defense looking to over commit to a sneak or middle runRoadDawg55 said:
Small issue, but why have the WR’s so far inside?huskyhooligan said:
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Best blocking WRs in the nation bby!RoadDawg55 said:
Small issue, but why have the WR’s so far inside?huskyhooligan said:
I'm surprised their safeties aren't 20 yards off the line of scrimmage.
JFC I hate the tight sets with this shitting OL. They can barely handle normal blocking assignments, let alone the complications that occur when you pack everyone on the box. -
I think you’re spot on in regards to leveraging cadence and a timeout in that situation … the sneak is the wrong play callHouhusky said:Going for it was the correct call.
QB sneak on a long 1.5 yards was fucking retarded.
Not understanding that it was a tie game late in the 4th, you have 3 time outs, your defense is shit, and the play was probably going to determine the game so you try to draw them offsides and then call a timeout and make sure everyone is on the same page for a pleasant/mcgrew handoff after the timeout is extra special retarded
I think if you’re efficient offensively then going for it makes sense and if you do then I’m probably looking to throw on some kind of run route or boot action … particularly given our tendencies
That said I don’t think going for it was a slam dunk … doing so IMO is an indictment on one’s thoughts on the defense to get a stop
Big picture is you can break apart in this single play all the different ways this team is poorly coached -
Lake thought the OL was the strength of the team. No wonder McDonald and Trice were doing well in practice.Houhusky said:
Best blocking WRs in the nation bby!RoadDawg55 said:
Small issue, but why have the WR’s so far inside?huskyhooligan said:
I'm surprised their safeties aren't 20 yards off the line of scrimmage.
JFC I hate the tight sets with this shitting OL. They can barely handle normal blocking assignments, let alone the complications that occur when you pack everyone on the box. -
If they had run the wild Columbian and given to Bynum in the fly sweep he'd still be running. I was screaming at my TV for it, but I've been screaming for McGrew to hand off to the fly sweep for two games now.
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I don’t think he’s allowed to. Probably get buried on the depth chart again if he tried to hand it off to the fly sweep receiver. I mean, I can only assume based on playing time being divvied out to favorites instead of based on merit at several positions.chuck said:If they had run the wild Columbian and given to Bynum in the fly sweep he'd still be running. I was screaming at my TV for it, but I've been screaming for McGrew to hand off to the fly sweep for two games now.
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We haven't run a bootleg all season. With Morris' diminutiveness and deficiencies, the one thing he can do decently well is throw on the run. Amazing we haven't tried that, especially with our porous OL. Don is so fucking dumb. They're all dumb.Tequilla said:
I think you’re spot on in regards to leveraging cadence and a timeout in that situation … the sneak is the wrong play callHouhusky said:Going for it was the correct call.
QB sneak on a long 1.5 yards was fucking retarded.
Not understanding that it was a tie game late in the 4th, you have 3 time outs, your defense is shit, and the play was probably going to determine the game so you try to draw them offsides and then call a timeout and make sure everyone is on the same page for a pleasant/mcgrew handoff after the timeout is extra special retarded
I think if you’re efficient offensively then going for it makes sense and if you do then I’m probably looking to throw on some kind of run route or boot action … particularly given our tendencies
That said I don’t think going for it was a slam dunk … doing so IMO is an indictment on one’s thoughts on the defense to get a stop
Big picture is you can break apart in this single play all the different ways this team is poorly coached -
If you really want to be a run first team …Beno4Life said:
We haven't run a bootleg all season. With Morris' diminutiveness and deficiencies, the one thing he can do decently well is throw on the run. Amazing we haven't tried that, especially with our porous OL. Don is so fucking dumb. They're all dumb.Tequilla said:
I think you’re spot on in regards to leveraging cadence and a timeout in that situation … the sneak is the wrong play callHouhusky said:Going for it was the correct call.
QB sneak on a long 1.5 yards was fucking retarded.
Not understanding that it was a tie game late in the 4th, you have 3 time outs, your defense is shit, and the play was probably going to determine the game so you try to draw them offsides and then call a timeout and make sure everyone is on the same page for a pleasant/mcgrew handoff after the timeout is extra special retarded
I think if you’re efficient offensively then going for it makes sense and if you do then I’m probably looking to throw on some kind of run route or boot action … particularly given our tendencies
That said I don’t think going for it was a slam dunk … doing so IMO is an indictment on one’s thoughts on the defense to get a stop
Big picture is you can break apart in this single play all the different ways this team is poorly coached
Then a lot of what you do has to be running stretch / off tackle that gets the defense flowing one way and susceptible to play action going the other way -
According to Lake it always "works in practice" so they'll keep doing it in games.
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Morris' accuracy is terrible on the run. Yes, he is less likely to get a pass batted down and he may be able to actually see his receiver but that doesn't matter when he can't hit the broadside of a barn without setting his feet.Beno4Life said:
We haven't run a bootleg all season. With Morris' diminutiveness and deficiencies, the one thing he can do decently well is throw on the run. Amazing we haven't tried that, especially with our porous OL. Don is so fucking dumb. They're all dumb.Tequilla said:
I think you’re spot on in regards to leveraging cadence and a timeout in that situation … the sneak is the wrong play callHouhusky said:Going for it was the correct call.
QB sneak on a long 1.5 yards was fucking retarded.
Not understanding that it was a tie game late in the 4th, you have 3 time outs, your defense is shit, and the play was probably going to determine the game so you try to draw them offsides and then call a timeout and make sure everyone is on the same page for a pleasant/mcgrew handoff after the timeout is extra special retarded
I think if you’re efficient offensively then going for it makes sense and if you do then I’m probably looking to throw on some kind of run route or boot action … particularly given our tendencies
That said I don’t think going for it was a slam dunk … doing so IMO is an indictment on one’s thoughts on the defense to get a stop
Big picture is you can break apart in this single play all the different ways this team is poorly coached
(This is an especially large problem given he can't stand or maneuver in the pocket.)
