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PSA: The comparison with Lake is Gilby

Gladstone
Gladstone Member Posts: 16,419
Gilby. Not Ty. The constant Ty comparisons — however true — are going to introduce unneeded optics that will unnecessarily complicate something that should be straightforward.

Gilby was a decent coordinator, took over a relatively talented team from a Rose Bowl winning coach, and plummeted it to 1-11 by year 2 despite the cries of many that his year one 6-6 campaign had all kinds of program killing warning signs.

Lake is Gilby.

PSA over.
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  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member Posts: 15,274
    2020-OSU, Stanford and Utah all should have been losses. He won instead

    2021 so far-Montana and Oregon State should have been wins. He lost. This team is getting worse by every metric imaginable.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,720 Founders Club
    Jimmy is what Pete was for 3 out of his 6 years at UW, but a little shittier than that even.

    6-8 wins, bend and break, overly conservative D. Get up by at least 10 at half and you're really conservative on both sides of the ball and holding on, and the opponent knows it. And absolutely shit offense in need of a Gaskin-type to keep the sticks moving to apologize for bad play calling/scheme (this year that's McGrew).

    Pete lost to Utah, Arizona, Cal, Graham ASU, all sorts of teams he should have handled. Jimmy's just done it with Beavlet and Montana (Pete barely scraped by Eastern).
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,268 Founders Club

    Or Lambo

    Going 7-4 with the roster he had in 93 was a giant red flag

    The funny thing about Lambo is that I was never really embarrassed to be a Husky Fan during his reign of terror.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club

    Or Lambo

    Going 7-4 with the roster he had in 93 was a giant red flag

    The funny thing about Lambo is that I was never really embarrassed to be a Husky Fan during his reign of terror.
    I was

    And I was pissed off

    Still am

    It doesn't seem to matter though
  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member Posts: 15,274
    HuskyJW said:

    2020-OSU, Stanford and Utah all should have been losses. He won instead

    2021 so far-Montana and Oregon State should have been wins. He lost. This team is getting worse by every metric imaginable.

    Not Stanford. That was a loss

    But you catch my drift
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,072
    edited October 2021

    I'm tempted to make a Gilby > Jimmy POTD.

    As an assistant, Gilby was the coordinator for a natty. Gilby also had two head coaching jobs - at Idaho where he kicked fucking ass in the Big Sky and also at Cal where, ok...not so great - but Cal too high any way.

    Jimmy was part of a coaching staff that got blasted by Alabama.

    Advantage: Gilby

  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,134
    haie said:

    Jimmy is what Pete was for 3 out of his 6 years at UW, but a little shittier than that even.

    6-8 wins, bend and break, overly conservative D. Get up by at least 10 at half and you're really conservative on both sides of the ball and holding on, and the opponent knows it. And absolutely shit offense in need of a Gaskin-type to keep the sticks moving to apologize for bad play calling/scheme (this year that's McGrew).

    Pete lost to Utah, Arizona, Cal, Graham ASU, all sorts of teams he should have handled. Jimmy's just done it with Beavlet and Montana (Pete barely scraped by Eastern).

    A 6-1 finish for Jimmy seems unlikely
  • insinceredawg
    insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117
    haie said:

    Jimmy is what Pete was for 3 out of his 6 years at UW, but a little shittier than that even.

    6-8 wins, bend and break, overly conservative D. Get up by at least 10 at half and you're really conservative on both sides of the ball and holding on, and the opponent knows it. And absolutely shit offense in need of a Gaskin-type to keep the sticks moving to apologize for bad play calling/scheme (this year that's McGrew).

    Pete lost to Utah, Arizona, Cal, Graham ASU, all sorts of teams he should have handled. Jimmy's just done it with Beavlet and Montana (Pete barely scraped by Eastern).

    Lake will need a miracle to even sniff 6 wins and this roster is arguably better than any squad CP had from top to bottom.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,720 Founders Club
    edited October 2021

    haie said:

    Jimmy is what Pete was for 3 out of his 6 years at UW, but a little shittier than that even.

    6-8 wins, bend and break, overly conservative D. Get up by at least 10 at half and you're really conservative on both sides of the ball and holding on, and the opponent knows it. And absolutely shit offense in need of a Gaskin-type to keep the sticks moving to apologize for bad play calling/scheme (this year that's McGrew).

    Pete lost to Utah, Arizona, Cal, Graham ASU, all sorts of teams he should have handled. Jimmy's just done it with Beavlet and Montana (Pete barely scraped by Eastern).

    Dude is probably winning 3-4 games. This is not close.
    ntxduck said:

    haie said:

    Jimmy is what Pete was for 3 out of his 6 years at UW, but a little shittier than that even.

    6-8 wins, bend and break, overly conservative D. Get up by at least 10 at half and you're really conservative on both sides of the ball and holding on, and the opponent knows it. And absolutely shit offense in need of a Gaskin-type to keep the sticks moving to apologize for bad play calling/scheme (this year that's McGrew).

    Pete lost to Utah, Arizona, Cal, Graham ASU, all sorts of teams he should have handled. Jimmy's just done it with Beavlet and Montana (Pete barely scraped by Eastern).

    A 6-1 finish for Jimmy seems unlikely
    Pete had to win out to get to 500 and get to a bowl against Southern Fried Chicken U in 2015.

    Won 8 because he got Hawaii and a super shit schedule in 14. Hawaii, Georgia State, Eastern (they might be a loss now but they gave up 50 to Cyler that year)

    I said Jimmy's a bit shittier so don't twist.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,720 Founders Club

    haie said:

    Jimmy is what Pete was for 3 out of his 6 years at UW, but a little shittier than that even.

    6-8 wins, bend and break, overly conservative D. Get up by at least 10 at half and you're really conservative on both sides of the ball and holding on, and the opponent knows it. And absolutely shit offense in need of a Gaskin-type to keep the sticks moving to apologize for bad play calling/scheme (this year that's McGrew).

    Pete lost to Utah, Arizona, Cal, Graham ASU, all sorts of teams he should have handled. Jimmy's just done it with Beavlet and Montana (Pete barely scraped by Eastern).

    Dude is probably winning 3-4 games. This is not close.
    4 minimum because of the Apple Cup and Arizona.

    There will be a blowout loss somewhere in there from UCLA/ASU/Oregon.

    But it's been close losses in every game except Mishitagain.
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,331
    haie said:

    haie said:

    Jimmy is what Pete was for 3 out of his 6 years at UW, but a little shittier than that even.

    6-8 wins, bend and break, overly conservative D. Get up by at least 10 at half and you're really conservative on both sides of the ball and holding on, and the opponent knows it. And absolutely shit offense in need of a Gaskin-type to keep the sticks moving to apologize for bad play calling/scheme (this year that's McGrew).

    Pete lost to Utah, Arizona, Cal, Graham ASU, all sorts of teams he should have handled. Jimmy's just done it with Beavlet and Montana (Pete barely scraped by Eastern).

    Dude is probably winning 3-4 games. This is not close.
    4 minimum because of the Apple Cup and Arizona.

    There will be a blowout loss somewhere in there from UCLA/ASU/Oregon.

    But it's been close losses in every game except Mishitagain.
    We should beat wazzu. But they actually look way better than us right now. You have a melt down every game like everyone else and then have weird undeserved optimism during the week because were Washington. . This team sucks really bad.
  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,787 Swaye's Wigwam
    my hate for this shit is waning - just not worth it.

    Saturday I just shook my head in disbelief.
    Oregon fan and I were talking he was hoping we? would beat OSU. Saw him late yesterday and said "told you we are crappy" he then said the Ducks played badly. My retort was I thought they looked fine. PAC12 national image is the ducks and they suck
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,720 Founders Club

    haie said:

    haie said:

    Jimmy is what Pete was for 3 out of his 6 years at UW, but a little shittier than that even.

    6-8 wins, bend and break, overly conservative D. Get up by at least 10 at half and you're really conservative on both sides of the ball and holding on, and the opponent knows it. And absolutely shit offense in need of a Gaskin-type to keep the sticks moving to apologize for bad play calling/scheme (this year that's McGrew).

    Pete lost to Utah, Arizona, Cal, Graham ASU, all sorts of teams he should have handled. Jimmy's just done it with Beavlet and Montana (Pete barely scraped by Eastern).

    Dude is probably winning 3-4 games. This is not close.
    4 minimum because of the Apple Cup and Arizona.

    There will be a blowout loss somewhere in there from UCLA/ASU/Oregon.

    But it's been close losses in every game except Mishitagain.
    We should beat wazzu. But they actually look way better than us right now. You have a melt down every game like everyone else and then have weird undeserved optimism during the week because were Washington. . This team sucks really bad.
    We've lost close games except Michigan, which is an outlier circumstance and our second game of the year.

    We might have a blowout loss to Stanford on the road again or one of UCLA/ASU/Oregon. But most likely Stanford will be close as well, because they're aren't a good football team either.
    The 3 better teams are at home. It will be hard to blow us out at home unless the team has quit completely.

    We'll have, at worst, a close loss to Wazzu and/or Colorado because that's how every game has gone except one. But then we'll take another close, lucky win somewhere else.

    Math says based on everything this year, it's unlikely that we win just 3-4.

    But most likely we beat Wazzu (not going to get into that, but expect a W) and Colorado (who somehow made a worse hire than we did), and Arizona who is not currently Power 5.

    5 wins. 2/3 of UCLA/ASU/Oregon will be close, conservatively. Stanford a close game, most likely.

    We win 5-7. Upper bound is 7-8 wins.

    That is a Pete year 3/6 years.
  • insinceredawg
    insinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117
    haie said:

    haie said:

    haie said:

    Jimmy is what Pete was for 3 out of his 6 years at UW, but a little shittier than that even.

    6-8 wins, bend and break, overly conservative D. Get up by at least 10 at half and you're really conservative on both sides of the ball and holding on, and the opponent knows it. And absolutely shit offense in need of a Gaskin-type to keep the sticks moving to apologize for bad play calling/scheme (this year that's McGrew).

    Pete lost to Utah, Arizona, Cal, Graham ASU, all sorts of teams he should have handled. Jimmy's just done it with Beavlet and Montana (Pete barely scraped by Eastern).

    Dude is probably winning 3-4 games. This is not close.
    4 minimum because of the Apple Cup and Arizona.

    There will be a blowout loss somewhere in there from UCLA/ASU/Oregon.

    But it's been close losses in every game except Mishitagain.
    We should beat wazzu. But they actually look way better than us right now. You have a melt down every game like everyone else and then have weird undeserved optimism during the week because were Washington. . This team sucks really bad.
    We've lost close games except Michigan, which is an outlier circumstance and our second game of the year.

    We might have a blowout loss to Stanford on the road again or one of UCLA/ASU/Oregon. But most likely Stanford will be close as well, because they're aren't a good football team either.
    The 3 better teams are at home. It will be hard to blow us out at home unless the team has quit completely.

    We'll have, at worst, a close loss to Wazzu and/or Colorado because that's how every game has gone except one. But then we'll take another close, lucky win somewhere else.

    Math says based on everything this year, it's unlikely that we win just 3-4.

    But most likely we beat Wazzu (not going to get into that, but expect a W) and Colorado (who somehow made a worse hire than we did), and Arizona who is not currently Power 5.

    5 wins. 2/3 of UCLA/ASU/Oregon will be close, conservatively. Stanford a close game, most likely.

    We win 5-7. Upper bound is 7-8 wins.

    That is a Pete year 3/6 years.
    Mel Tucker left them for Sparty in the middle of February a week after signing day and after he told them he was staying. They didn't have much time to find a new coach without disrupting the entire offseason schedule.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    haie said:

    Jimmy is what Pete was for 3 out of his 6 years at UW, but a little shittier than that even.

    6-8 wins, bend and break, overly conservative D. Get up by at least 10 at half and you're really conservative on both sides of the ball and holding on, and the opponent knows it. And absolutely shit offense in need of a Gaskin-type to keep the sticks moving to apologize for bad play calling/scheme (this year that's McGrew).

    Pete lost to Utah, Arizona, Cal, Graham ASU, all sorts of teams he should have handled. Jimmy's just done it with Beavlet and Montana (Pete barely scraped by Eastern).

    Lake will need a miracle to even sniff 6 wins and this roster is arguably better than any squad CP had from top to bottom.
    This team has only begun to quit. They still have the talent to play up when they are motivated. Once any remaining motivation runs dry and they quit in earnest it's going to get a lot worse.
    Looking forward to that day
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    haie said:

    haie said:

    haie said:

    Jimmy is what Pete was for 3 out of his 6 years at UW, but a little shittier than that even.

    6-8 wins, bend and break, overly conservative D. Get up by at least 10 at half and you're really conservative on both sides of the ball and holding on, and the opponent knows it. And absolutely shit offense in need of a Gaskin-type to keep the sticks moving to apologize for bad play calling/scheme (this year that's McGrew).

    Pete lost to Utah, Arizona, Cal, Graham ASU, all sorts of teams he should have handled. Jimmy's just done it with Beavlet and Montana (Pete barely scraped by Eastern).

    Dude is probably winning 3-4 games. This is not close.
    4 minimum because of the Apple Cup and Arizona.

    There will be a blowout loss somewhere in there from UCLA/ASU/Oregon.

    But it's been close losses in every game except Mishitagain.
    We should beat wazzu. But they actually look way better than us right now. You have a melt down every game like everyone else and then have weird undeserved optimism during the week because were Washington. . This team sucks really bad.
    We've lost close games except Michigan, which is an outlier circumstance and our second game of the year.

    We might have a blowout loss to Stanford on the road again or one of UCLA/ASU/Oregon. But most likely Stanford will be close as well, because they're aren't a good football team either.
    The 3 better teams are at home. It will be hard to blow us out at home unless the team has quit completely.

    We'll have, at worst, a close loss to Wazzu and/or Colorado because that's how every game has gone except one. But then we'll take another close, lucky win somewhere else.

    Math says based on everything this year, it's unlikely that we win just 3-4.

    But most likely we beat Wazzu (not going to get into that, but expect a W) and Colorado (who somehow made a worse hire than we did), and Arizona who is not currently Power 5.

    5 wins. 2/3 of UCLA/ASU/Oregon will be close, conservatively. Stanford a close game, most likely.

    We win 5-7. Upper bound is 7-8 wins.

    That is a Pete year 3/6 years.
    FUCK OFF

    Michigan being an outlier I guess is fair … we’re clearly out of their league with Jimmy at the helm and Michigan still likely sucks until they prove otherwise
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,720 Founders Club
    edited October 2021
    Tequilla said:

    haie said:

    haie said:

    haie said:

    Jimmy is what Pete was for 3 out of his 6 years at UW, but a little shittier than that even.

    6-8 wins, bend and break, overly conservative D. Get up by at least 10 at half and you're really conservative on both sides of the ball and holding on, and the opponent knows it. And absolutely shit offense in need of a Gaskin-type to keep the sticks moving to apologize for bad play calling/scheme (this year that's McGrew).

    Pete lost to Utah, Arizona, Cal, Graham ASU, all sorts of teams he should have handled. Jimmy's just done it with Beavlet and Montana (Pete barely scraped by Eastern).

    Dude is probably winning 3-4 games. This is not close.
    4 minimum because of the Apple Cup and Arizona.

    There will be a blowout loss somewhere in there from UCLA/ASU/Oregon.

    But it's been close losses in every game except Mishitagain.
    We should beat wazzu. But they actually look way better than us right now. You have a melt down every game like everyone else and then have weird undeserved optimism during the week because were Washington. . This team sucks really bad.
    We've lost close games except Michigan, which is an outlier circumstance and our second game of the year.

    We might have a blowout loss to Stanford on the road again or one of UCLA/ASU/Oregon. But most likely Stanford will be close as well, because they're aren't a good football team either.
    The 3 better teams are at home. It will be hard to blow us out at home unless the team has quit completely.

    We'll have, at worst, a close loss to Wazzu and/or Colorado because that's how every game has gone except one. But then we'll take another close, lucky win somewhere else.

    Math says based on everything this year, it's unlikely that we win just 3-4.

    But most likely we beat Wazzu (not going to get into that, but expect a W) and Colorado (who somehow made a worse hire than we did), and Arizona who is not currently Power 5.

    5 wins. 2/3 of UCLA/ASU/Oregon will be close, conservatively. Stanford a close game, most likely.

    We win 5-7. Upper bound is 7-8 wins.

    That is a Pete year 3/6 years.
    FUCK OFF

    Michigan being an outlier I guess is fair … we’re clearly out of their league with Jimmy at the helm and Michigan still likely sucks until they prove otherwise
    Super hurtful FO while you're making zero counterpoints here.

    Everyone wants them to lose every single game. I get that.

    But I'm focusing on conference play of not just UW, but all other teams too.

    Beavlet 2-0 (convincing win and unconvincing win over 2 bad staffs with more talent)

    @GhostofMosster47 0-2 (they need to go to FCS NOW)

    Everyone else is mediocre.

    Hard to see raw talent winning just 3-4 games. Maybe Jimmy gets it done but it's unlikely given our schedule and the teams we're playing.

    AGAIN: who is Jimmy most like? It's like everyone forgot that Pete was mediocre, close to being less than mediocre, 3/6 years with this same mindset/schemes every fucking game.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    haie said:

    haie said:

    haie said:

    Jimmy is what Pete was for 3 out of his 6 years at UW, but a little shittier than that even.

    6-8 wins, bend and break, overly conservative D. Get up by at least 10 at half and you're really conservative on both sides of the ball and holding on, and the opponent knows it. And absolutely shit offense in need of a Gaskin-type to keep the sticks moving to apologize for bad play calling/scheme (this year that's McGrew).

    Pete lost to Utah, Arizona, Cal, Graham ASU, all sorts of teams he should have handled. Jimmy's just done it with Beavlet and Montana (Pete barely scraped by Eastern).

    Dude is probably winning 3-4 games. This is not close.
    4 minimum because of the Apple Cup and Arizona.

    There will be a blowout loss somewhere in there from UCLA/ASU/Oregon.

    But it's been close losses in every game except Mishitagain.
    We should beat wazzu. But they actually look way better than us right now. You have a melt down every game like everyone else and then have weird undeserved optimism during the week because were Washington. . This team sucks really bad.
    We've lost close games except Michigan, which is an outlier circumstance and our second game of the year.

    We might have a blowout loss to Stanford on the road again or one of UCLA/ASU/Oregon. But most likely Stanford will be close as well, because they're aren't a good football team either.
    The 3 better teams are at home. It will be hard to blow us out at home unless the team has quit completely.

    We'll have, at worst, a close loss to Wazzu and/or Colorado because that's how every game has gone except one. But then we'll take another close, lucky win somewhere else.

    Math says based on everything this year, it's unlikely that we win just 3-4.

    But most likely we beat Wazzu (not going to get into that, but expect a W) and Colorado (who somehow made a worse hire than we did), and Arizona who is not currently Power 5.

    5 wins. 2/3 of UCLA/ASU/Oregon will be close, conservatively. Stanford a close game, most likely.

    We win 5-7. Upper bound is 7-8 wins.

    That is a Pete year 3/6 years.
    The team has quit completely

    Hth
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,331
    haie said:

    Tequilla said:

    haie said:

    haie said:

    haie said:

    Jimmy is what Pete was for 3 out of his 6 years at UW, but a little shittier than that even.

    6-8 wins, bend and break, overly conservative D. Get up by at least 10 at half and you're really conservative on both sides of the ball and holding on, and the opponent knows it. And absolutely shit offense in need of a Gaskin-type to keep the sticks moving to apologize for bad play calling/scheme (this year that's McGrew).

    Pete lost to Utah, Arizona, Cal, Graham ASU, all sorts of teams he should have handled. Jimmy's just done it with Beavlet and Montana (Pete barely scraped by Eastern).

    Dude is probably winning 3-4 games. This is not close.
    4 minimum because of the Apple Cup and Arizona.

    There will be a blowout loss somewhere in there from UCLA/ASU/Oregon.

    But it's been close losses in every game except Mishitagain.
    We should beat wazzu. But they actually look way better than us right now. You have a melt down every game like everyone else and then have weird undeserved optimism during the week because were Washington. . This team sucks really bad.
    We've lost close games except Michigan, which is an outlier circumstance and our second game of the year.

    We might have a blowout loss to Stanford on the road again or one of UCLA/ASU/Oregon. But most likely Stanford will be close as well, because they're aren't a good football team either.
    The 3 better teams are at home. It will be hard to blow us out at home unless the team has quit completely.

    We'll have, at worst, a close loss to Wazzu and/or Colorado because that's how every game has gone except one. But then we'll take another close, lucky win somewhere else.

    Math says based on everything this year, it's unlikely that we win just 3-4.

    But most likely we beat Wazzu (not going to get into that, but expect a W) and Colorado (who somehow made a worse hire than we did), and Arizona who is not currently Power 5.

    5 wins. 2/3 of UCLA/ASU/Oregon will be close, conservatively. Stanford a close game, most likely.

    We win 5-7. Upper bound is 7-8 wins.

    That is a Pete year 3/6 years.
    FUCK OFF

    Michigan being an outlier I guess is fair … we’re clearly out of their league with Jimmy at the helm and Michigan still likely sucks until they prove otherwise
    Super hurtful FO while you're making zero counterpoints here.

    Everyone wants them to lose every single game. I get that.

    But I'm focusing on conference play of not just UW, but all other teams too.

    Beavlet 2-0

    @GhostofMosster47 0-2

    Everyone else is mediocre.

    Hard to see raw talent winning just 3-4 games. Maybe Jimmy gets it done but it's unlikely given our schedule and the teams we're playing.

    AGAIN: who is Jimmy most like? It's like everyone forgot that Pete was mediocre, close to being less than mediocre, 3/6 years with this same mindset/schemes every fucking game.
    The conference is absolutely horrible. I just see us inviting every team we play to run the ball because that’s our super secret plan. If we do that there is not a team that can’t beat us. Maybe Arizona.

    I am thinking 1-3 wins. When the team quits it’s gonna get bad. Having seen cal play back to back weeks that’s a horrible football team that kicked for the win on the road vs uw.

    Losses

    Oregon
    Stanford
    UCLA
    Arizona st

    50/50
    Wazzu
    Colorado

    Wins
    Arizona
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,720 Founders Club

    haie said:

    haie said:

    haie said:

    Jimmy is what Pete was for 3 out of his 6 years at UW, but a little shittier than that even.

    6-8 wins, bend and break, overly conservative D. Get up by at least 10 at half and you're really conservative on both sides of the ball and holding on, and the opponent knows it. And absolutely shit offense in need of a Gaskin-type to keep the sticks moving to apologize for bad play calling/scheme (this year that's McGrew).

    Pete lost to Utah, Arizona, Cal, Graham ASU, all sorts of teams he should have handled. Jimmy's just done it with Beavlet and Montana (Pete barely scraped by Eastern).

    Dude is probably winning 3-4 games. This is not close.
    4 minimum because of the Apple Cup and Arizona.

    There will be a blowout loss somewhere in there from UCLA/ASU/Oregon.

    But it's been close losses in every game except Mishitagain.
    We should beat wazzu. But they actually look way better than us right now. You have a melt down every game like everyone else and then have weird undeserved optimism during the week because were Washington. . This team sucks really bad.
    We've lost close games except Michigan, which is an outlier circumstance and our second game of the year.

    We might have a blowout loss to Stanford on the road again or one of UCLA/ASU/Oregon. But most likely Stanford will be close as well, because they're aren't a good football team either.
    The 3 better teams are at home. It will be hard to blow us out at home unless the team has quit completely.

    We'll have, at worst, a close loss to Wazzu and/or Colorado because that's how every game has gone except one. But then we'll take another close, lucky win somewhere else.

    Math says based on everything this year, it's unlikely that we win just 3-4.

    But most likely we beat Wazzu (not going to get into that, but expect a W) and Colorado (who somehow made a worse hire than we did), and Arizona who is not currently Power 5.

    5 wins. 2/3 of UCLA/ASU/Oregon will be close, conservatively. Stanford a close game, most likely.

    We win 5-7. Upper bound is 7-8 wins.

    That is a Pete year 3/6 years.
    The team has quit completely

    Hth
    Ugghhh, I've been to every fucking game in person except Mich.

    They did not quit against Beavlet. Actually everyone looked pretty fucking confident except when they were watching Morris bounce balls off of fucking OL heads.

    As a matter of fact, when they went up 24-17 with 8 minutes to go and Little Seanny McGrew was running them over, their fans started getting really fucking scared. Pete Squad saved the day though.