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PurpleBaze
PurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,329 Founders Club
I know it's the Daily Mail, but I don't care.

This is due to most parents not teaching any manners to their precious little fuck trophies.

Fisherman's Grotto basically bans little brats...
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  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839
    I don't agree with the policy, so I would not eat there.

    However, I admire the man:

    He said: 'Let's put it this way, I haven't had a down year for over 20 years. Our business continues to grow.'

    I wonder what would happen if a black person tried to eat there with a crying kid.

    Any who ... good for him.
  • PurpleBaze
    PurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,329 Founders Club
    Exactly! If you don't like their policy, don't eat there.

    I saw a bunch of people on the news whining about how "this sends the wrong message". Really? It just shows that many people have kids and don't know how to raise them. Their kids are coddled and allowed to act like total shitbags in public.

    In any case, if this guy's policy was totally wrong, then free market economics would take care of the problem. Looks like his business hasn't taken a hit at all.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    Sounds like Old Fisherman's Grotto doesn't believe in the 1st Amendment...
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,676 Standard Supporter

    Exactly! If you don't like their policy, don't eat there.

    I saw a bunch of people on the news whining about how "this sends the wrong message". Really? It just shows that many people have kids and don't know how to raise them. Their kids are coddled and allowed to act like total shitbags in public.

    In any case, if this guy's policy was totally wrong, then free market economics would take care of the problem. Looks like his business hasn't taken a hit at all.

    Free market economics determines right and wrong?
  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839

    Exactly! If you don't like their policy, don't eat there.

    I saw a bunch of people on the news whining about how "this sends the wrong message". Really? It just shows that many people have kids and don't know how to raise them. Their kids are coddled and allowed to act like total shitbags in public.

    In any case, if this guy's policy was totally wrong, then free market economics would take care of the problem. Looks like his business hasn't taken a hit at all.

    Free market economics determines right and wrong?
    How is it wrong?

    I have a 3 year old and a 6 year old.

    They act like shit bags in public. According to some, I raised them wrong, boys will be boys and they like to get each other fired up and act like Muslim Terrorist on an American plane.

    If someone wants to dine away from these fucking jihadist ... I don't blame them.

    I wouldn't eat there because I have kids and know sometimes kids will just be fucktards.

    There is no law against what he is doing (my black question could challenge that), so let the free market determine his policy. If he takes a hit ... then he may change.

    But is it wrong? No.
  • PurpleBaze
    PurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,329 Founders Club

    Free market economics determines right and wrong?

    Acting up and annoying the shit out of other customers is definitely wrong. The policy is behavior based. Yes, it makes an assumption that those in strollers and high chairs are going to misbehave.

    Same type of policy should be adopted regarding people talking on their cell phones in restaurants.

    BTW, do you think the "no shirts, no shoes, no service" policy is wrong too?
  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839

    Free market economics determines right and wrong?

    Acting up and annoying the shit out of other customers is definitely wrong. The policy is behavior based. Yes, it makes an assumption that those in strollers and high chairs are going to misbehave.

    Same type of policy should be adopted regarding people talking on their cell phones in restaurants.

    BTW, do you think the "no shirts, no shoes, no service" policy is wrong too?
    You don't have kids ... do you.

    I'm on your side ... the guy has a right to do as he pleases in this scenario.

    There are adults every day who annoy the shit out of me ...

    Yes ... parents should crack down more ... but until you have one ... then two ... you will never understand.
  • PurpleBaze
    PurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,329 Founders Club
    topdawgnc said:


    You don't have kids ... do you.

    I'm on your side ... the guy has a right to do as he pleases in this scenario.

    There are adults every day who annoy the shit out of me ...

    Yes ... parents should crack down more ... but until you have one ... then two ... you will never understand.

    No, we don't have kids. But, we do have plenty of nieces and nephews who act like shitbags at times.

    Anyway, I actually don't have a problem with the kids. It's really some parents who don't properly monitor and discipline their kids. I've seen it way too often. They'll let their kids just run around and tear up a place and not say a word. I've also seen some really good parenting, but it's not the norm.

    You're also right that there are many adults who act like the world revolves around them. I get to spend too much time at public places, thanks to my line of work. I'm at airports, hotels, and restaurants more than I care to be. So, I get to see plenty of real self-centered, entitled behavior.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,676 Standard Supporter

    Free market economics determines right and wrong?

    Acting up and annoying the shit out of other customers is definitely wrong. The policy is behavior based. Yes, it makes an assumption that those in strollers and high chairs are going to misbehave.

    Same type of policy should be adopted regarding people talking on their cell phones in restaurants.

    BTW, do you think the "no shirts, no shoes, no service" policy is wrong too?
    No shoes, no shirt is a little different. That's just common decency, although a lot of people disregard it here ans seem to get away with it. Nobody likes obnoxious kids. I tend to avoid restaurants that are kid friendly, but every time there's an annoying kid on my flight I cringe.

    Restaurants should have every right to refuse service to obnoxious customers, including parents who make no attempt to discipline their spawn, but banning all kids (I know that's not exactly the case here) seems over the line.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,676 Standard Supporter

    Exactly! If you don't like their policy, don't eat there.

    I saw a bunch of people on the news whining about how "this sends the wrong message". Really? It just shows that many people have kids and don't know how to raise them. Their kids are coddled and allowed to act like total shitbags in public.

    In any case, if this guy's policy was totally wrong, then free market economics would take care of the problem. Looks like his business hasn't taken a hit at all.

    Free market economics determines right and wrong?
    No, it doesn't "determine" right or wrong. But if a business is doing wrong, often times the free market takes care of it.

    This place was pretty much put of of business by the free market responding to their business practice of not baking wedding cakes for the gays:

    oregonlive.com/gresham/index.ssf/2013/09/gresham_bakery_that_refused_to.html

    Thanks, I just wanted someone to acknowledge that.
  • PurpleBaze
    PurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,329 Founders Club

    No shoes, no shirt is a little different. That's just common decency, although a lot of people disregard it here ans seem to get away with it. Nobody likes obnoxious kids. I tend to avoid restaurants that are kid friendly, but every time there's an annoying kid on my flight I cringe.

    Restaurants should have every right to refuse service to obnoxious customers, including parents who make no attempt to discipline their spawn, but banning all kids (I know that's not exactly the case here) seems over the line.

    Well, I guess the restaurant had to make a choice between policing behavior or just making a blanket policy. The latter is easier, IMHO. If they were to go with the policing method, there would be quite a few more pissed off customers. It's a lot uglier to kick somebody out after they have set foot in your establishment vs. asking them to stay out.

    As for airplanes, don't get me started. I've spent my fair share of time in aluminum tubes with screaming babies, big fat guys sitting next to me, etc. At least in a restaurant, you have the option to get up and leave. In an airplane, you're just plain (or plane - hardy har har) fucked.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560

    Free market economics determines right and wrong?

    Acting up and annoying the shit out of other customers is definitely wrong. The policy is behavior based. Yes, it makes an assumption that those in strollers and high chairs are going to misbehave.

    Same type of policy should be adopted regarding people talking on their cell phones in restaurants.

    BTW, do you think the "no shirts, no shoes, no service" policy is wrong too?
    No shoes, no shirt is a little different. That's just common decency, although a lot of people disregard it here ans seem to get away with it. Nobody likes obnoxious kids. I tend to avoid restaurants that are kid friendly, but every time there's an annoying kid on my flight I cringe.

    Restaurants should have every right to refuse service to obnoxious customers, including parents who make no attempt to discipline their spawn, but banning all kids (I know that's not exactly the case here) seems over the line.
    If your going to ban brats that's fine, but the banning of strollers, high chairs, and boosters seems to ban all children. If you have a well-behaved child I guess they have to sit on your lap? I say keep the accessories, but if a child gets out of line. Ass. Door. Out to the entire dining party.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Free market economics determines right and wrong?

    Acting up and annoying the shit out of other customers is definitely wrong. The policy is behavior based. Yes, it makes an assumption that those in strollers and high chairs are going to misbehave.

    Same type of policy should be adopted regarding people talking on their cell phones in restaurants.

    BTW, do you think the "no shirts, no shoes, no service" policy is wrong too?
    No shoes, no shirt is a little different. That's just common decency, although a lot of people disregard it here ans seem to get away with it. Nobody likes obnoxious kids. I tend to avoid restaurants that are kid friendly, but every time there's an annoying kid on my flight I cringe.

    Restaurants should have every right to refuse service to obnoxious customers, including parents who make no attempt to discipline their spawn, but banning all kids (I know that's not exactly the case here) seems over the line.
    So why are you arguing something that isn't the case?




  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited July 2014

    Free market economics determines right and wrong?

    Acting up and annoying the shit out of other customers is definitely wrong. The policy is behavior based. Yes, it makes an assumption that those in strollers and high chairs are going to misbehave.

    Same type of policy should be adopted regarding people talking on their cell phones in restaurants.

    BTW, do you think the "no shirts, no shoes, no service" policy is wrong too?
    No shoes, no shirt is a little different. That's just common decency, although a lot of people disregard it here ans seem to get away with it. Nobody likes obnoxious kids. I tend to avoid restaurants that are kid friendly, but every time there's an annoying kid on my flight I cringe.

    Restaurants should have every right to refuse service to obnoxious customers, including parents who make no attempt to discipline their spawn, but banning all kids (I know that's not exactly the case here) seems over the line.
    If your going to ban brats that's fine, but the banning of strollers, high chairs, and boosters seems to ban all children. If you have a well-behaved child I guess they have to sit on your lap? I say keep the accessories, but if a child gets out of line. Ass. Door. Out to the entire dining party.
    Yes, they can sit on your lap. If you don't like it, eat at the hundreds of other places that will give your kid a high chair.

    Why does every asshole with a kid think they're special and the world revolves around them just because the successfully fucked and shit out a kid?

    They don't want your business. That's their right. Your right is to spend money someplace that does.
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    topdawgnc said:

    Exactly! If you don't like their policy, don't eat there.

    I saw a bunch of people on the news whining about how "this sends the wrong message". Really? It just shows that many people have kids and don't know how to raise them. Their kids are coddled and allowed to act like total shitbags in public.

    In any case, if this guy's policy was totally wrong, then free market economics would take care of the problem. Looks like his business hasn't taken a hit at all.

    Free market economics determines right and wrong?
    How is it wrong?

    I have a 3 year old and a 6 year old.

    They act like shit bags in public. According to some, I raised them wrong, boys will be boys and they like to get each other fired up and act like Muslim Terrorist on an American plane.

    If someone wants to dine away from these fucking jihadist ... I don't blame them.

    I wouldn't eat there because I have kids and know sometimes kids will just be fucktards.

    There is no law against what he is doing (my black question could challenge that), so let the free market determine his policy. If he takes a hit ... then he may change.

    But is it wrong? No.
    Pics?

    /nambla'd

  • RaccoonHarry
    RaccoonHarry Member Posts: 2,161
    I bet they had restaurants like that in Nazi Germany
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560

    Free market economics determines right and wrong?

    Acting up and annoying the shit out of other customers is definitely wrong. The policy is behavior based. Yes, it makes an assumption that those in strollers and high chairs are going to misbehave.

    Same type of policy should be adopted regarding people talking on their cell phones in restaurants.

    BTW, do you think the "no shirts, no shoes, no service" policy is wrong too?
    No shoes, no shirt is a little different. That's just common decency, although a lot of people disregard it here ans seem to get away with it. Nobody likes obnoxious kids. I tend to avoid restaurants that are kid friendly, but every time there's an annoying kid on my flight I cringe.

    Restaurants should have every right to refuse service to obnoxious customers, including parents who make no attempt to discipline their spawn, but banning all kids (I know that's not exactly the case here) seems over the line.
    If your going to ban brats that's fine, but the banning of strollers, high chairs, and boosters seems to ban all children. If you have a well-behaved child I guess they have to sit on your lap? I say keep the accessories, but if a child gets out of line. Ass. Door. Out to the entire dining party.
    Yes, they can sit on your lap. If you don't like it, eat at the hundreds of other places that will give your kid a high chair.

    Why does every asshole with a kid think they're special and the world revolves around them just because the successfully fucked and shit out a kid?

    They don't want your business. That's their right. Your right is to spend money someplace that does.
    Even if a person brings their own?
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Free market economics determines right and wrong?

    Acting up and annoying the shit out of other customers is definitely wrong. The policy is behavior based. Yes, it makes an assumption that those in strollers and high chairs are going to misbehave.

    Same type of policy should be adopted regarding people talking on their cell phones in restaurants.

    BTW, do you think the "no shirts, no shoes, no service" policy is wrong too?
    No shoes, no shirt is a little different. That's just common decency, although a lot of people disregard it here ans seem to get away with it. Nobody likes obnoxious kids. I tend to avoid restaurants that are kid friendly, but every time there's an annoying kid on my flight I cringe.

    Restaurants should have every right to refuse service to obnoxious customers, including parents who make no attempt to discipline their spawn, but banning all kids (I know that's not exactly the case here) seems over the line.
    If your going to ban brats that's fine, but the banning of strollers, high chairs, and boosters seems to ban all children. If you have a well-behaved child I guess they have to sit on your lap? I say keep the accessories, but if a child gets out of line. Ass. Door. Out to the entire dining party.
    Yes, they can sit on your lap. If you don't like it, eat at the hundreds of other places that will give your kid a high chair.

    Why does every asshole with a kid think they're special and the world revolves around them just because the successfully fucked and shit out a kid?

    They don't want your business. That's their right. Your right is to spend money someplace that does.
    Even if a person brings their own?
    They would charge a "corkage fee" for that.
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381

    Free market economics determines right and wrong?

    Acting up and annoying the shit out of other customers is definitely wrong. The policy is behavior based. Yes, it makes an assumption that those in strollers and high chairs are going to misbehave.

    Same type of policy should be adopted regarding people talking on their cell phones in restaurants.

    BTW, do you think the "no shirts, no shoes, no service" policy is wrong too?
    No shoes, no shirt is a little different. That's just common decency, although a lot of people disregard it here ans seem to get away with it. Nobody likes obnoxious kids. I tend to avoid restaurants that are kid friendly, but every time there's an annoying kid on my flight I cringe.

    Restaurants should have every right to refuse service to obnoxious customers, including parents who make no attempt to discipline their spawn, but banning all kids (I know that's not exactly the case here) seems over the line.
    If your going to ban brats that's fine, but the banning of strollers, high chairs, and boosters seems to ban all children. If you have a well-behaved child I guess they have to sit on your lap? I say keep the accessories, but if a child gets out of line. Ass. Door. Out to the entire dining party.
    Yes, they can sit on your lap. If you don't like it, eat at the hundreds of other places that will give your kid a high chair.

    Why does every asshole with a kid think they're special and the world revolves around them just because the successfully fucked and shit out a kid?

    They don't want your business. That's their right. Your right is to spend money someplace that does.
    Even if a person brings their own?
    They would charge a "corkage fee" for that.
    /nambla'd

  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560

    Free market economics determines right and wrong?

    Acting up and annoying the shit out of other customers is definitely wrong. The policy is behavior based. Yes, it makes an assumption that those in strollers and high chairs are going to misbehave.

    Same type of policy should be adopted regarding people talking on their cell phones in restaurants.

    BTW, do you think the "no shirts, no shoes, no service" policy is wrong too?
    No shoes, no shirt is a little different. That's just common decency, although a lot of people disregard it here ans seem to get away with it. Nobody likes obnoxious kids. I tend to avoid restaurants that are kid friendly, but every time there's an annoying kid on my flight I cringe.

    Restaurants should have every right to refuse service to obnoxious customers, including parents who make no attempt to discipline their spawn, but banning all kids (I know that's not exactly the case here) seems over the line.
    If your going to ban brats that's fine, but the banning of strollers, high chairs, and boosters seems to ban all children. If you have a well-behaved child I guess they have to sit on your lap? I say keep the accessories, but if a child gets out of line. Ass. Door. Out to the entire dining party.
    Yes, they can sit on your lap. If you don't like it, eat at the hundreds of other places that will give your kid a high chair.

    Why does every asshole with a kid think they're special and the world revolves around them just because the successfully fucked and shit out a kid?

    They don't want your business. That's their right. Your right is to spend money someplace that does.
    Even if a person brings their own?
    They would charge a "corkage fee" for that.
    If I had well behaved kids, and the chowder was good enough, I'd pay it
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam

    topdawgnc said:

    Free market economics determines right and wrong?

    Acting up and annoying the shit out of other customers is definitely wrong. The policy is behavior based. Yes, it makes an assumption that those in strollers and high chairs are going to misbehave.

    Same type of policy should be adopted regarding people talking on their cell phones in restaurants.

    BTW, do you think the "no shirts, no shoes, no service" policy is wrong too?
    You don't have kids ... do you.

    I'm on your side ... the guy has a right to do as he pleases in this scenario.

    There are adults every day who annoy the shit out of me ...

    Yes ... parents should crack down more ... but until you have one ... then two ... you will never understand.
    I raised two kids and think this policy is great. Fucking people taking there snot nosed ill-mannered shits in places and where people are expecting to not be annoyed by kids is wrong. This isn't banning kids, just ones that annoy people trying to eat. If you insist on taking your crying brat to dinner, go to McDonalds or Chuick E Cheese.

    Just like the assholes who are bringing their fucking dogs everywhere these days. Grocery store, bar, airport...leave your fucking dog at home. I'd love to take my dog everywhere too, but I understand no one loves my dog as much as I do and people's fucking dogs hair and dog assholes on my chair or in my shopping cart is not cool.

    We've become a society of narcissists who think we can do whatever we want no matter what the affect on other is.

    I hate people.

    Fuckin' A,

    Toppy - you'd better get a handle on those little twerps before they're stealing cars and smoking crack. Maybe a 3 year old can be forgiven for being somewhat out of control, but a six year old still acting like a clown in public needs a talking to. I have two sons, now 21 and 18, and the younger one was as full of piss and vinegar as any kid you're going to see. He walked just past 6 months and was potty trained by 18 months. That was about the same time he kicked the front window screen out, and took off to see his brother at school when it was about 40 degrees and raining........and school was a mile away.

    Guess what? We didn't take that fuckin' kid out to nice places to eat. In fact, we didn't take him out to eat with us until he could be reasoned with and could understand that he was going to get his ass beat if he wanted to raise hell in public. Unacceptable behavior, and my kids knew that even though I let them do their thing, wild behavior in public just doesn't fly.

    I never wanted to discourage my kids from being tough, being aggressive, but that is different from being ill-mannered.

    I'd eat there now with my kids. I wouldn't have 15 years ago. I'd have been happy to let the patrons of this place eat in peace, too. That's what Chuck E. Cheese is for.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    I'm waiting for an airline to step up and use this business model. Kids on planes are the fucking worst.
  • PurpleBaze
    PurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,329 Founders Club

    It's happening already.

    It can't happen soon enough.

    Child poops on airplane seat...
  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839

    It's happening already.

    It can't happen soon enough.

    Child poops on airplane seat...
    Jesus ...

    Those fucking Chi-Coms ... fucking animals.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    The moral to this entire story is not to get married, but if you do, never create spawn. Just drink, fuck, and snort coke all day. And eat wherever the fuck you like.