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"Sarkisian more teddy than papa bear in Seferian-Jenkins case"

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  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member Posts: 15,266
    No agenda there.....
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Sark outed himself as a gay bear ($75,000) during the postgame handshake in Autzen last year.... NTTAWWT.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,127
    edited July 2013
    Who gives a shit what Bear Bryant did a long fucking time ago? I'm sure there are other good coaches who did not suspend a guy for DUI as well. It's an irrelevant article.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Counterpoint: Urban Meyer won a national title and popped off with a future triple murderer (allegedly) on the roster.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    Best thing Sark has done in several months.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Best thing Sark has done in several months.

    Best. Backhanded compliment. Ever.
  • IrishDawg22
    IrishDawg22 Member Posts: 2,754
    I hope he does not suspend them at all. And if he does, I hope it is for the Idaho St game. I want a coach who is willing to push the limits to win.

    Our own program's history tells us that it works. You just need everyone on board.
  • tracker
    tracker Member Posts: 866

    Joe Fucking Namath! Really? Who the fuck remembers Broadway Joe?

    Seems to me ASJ's been publicly embarrassed, spent a night in jail, has a DUI conviction, took complete responsibility for his actions, is out a chunk of money, what else did I miss? He's done his time. . .move on. No suspension.

    Of course, the writer is correct. Sark needs to stop being a flake and just say what, if any, team punishment there is. It's called Leadership, Sark.
  • tracker
    tracker Member Posts: 866

    I remember Joe

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQqIQyT-RuM

    He never stopped drinking

    There was a reason they called him "Broadway Joe".

    BTW, I wanna kiss you.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    tracker said:

    I remember Joe

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQqIQyT-RuM

    He never stopped drinking

    There was a reason they called him "Broadway Joe".

    BTW, I wanna kiss you.
    You can get drunk AND go on national TV. Life of abundance
  • Mad_Son
    Mad_Son Member Posts: 10,194
    If Sark wanted to save his career AND look tough, he would say ASJ is out for the bowl (assuming a bowl happens). At least this shows he cares more about winning, even if he rarely knows how to best go about doing that.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,280 Founders Club
    Mad_Son said:

    If Sark wanted to save his career AND look tough, he would say ASJ is out for the bowl (assuming a bowl happens). At least this shows he cares more about winning, even if he rarely knows how to best go about doing that.

    If I were Sark, I would have already gotten out in front of this thing by saying ASJ is practicing with the team and will miss the first quarter of the BSU game. And then I'd be done with it instead of letting it linger.
  • tracker
    tracker Member Posts: 866

    Mad_Son said:

    If Sark wanted to save his career AND look tough, he would say ASJ is out for the bowl (assuming a bowl happens). At least this shows he cares more about winning, even if he rarely knows how to best go about doing that.

    If I were Sark, I would have already gotten out in front of this thing by saying ASJ is practicing with the team and will miss the first quarter of the BSU game. And then I'd be done with it instead of letting it linger.
    Yes.

    This is the thing that bothers me most about Sark. He just doesn't seem to understand that he's the leader of the program. He's the point guy. People look to him for decisions and leadership and it's just not there. He waits and weighs public opinion before making decisions. He just doesn't have that charismatic, self-confident "it" factor that good leaders have.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,280 Founders Club
    tracker said:

    Mad_Son said:

    If Sark wanted to save his career AND look tough, he would say ASJ is out for the bowl (assuming a bowl happens). At least this shows he cares more about winning, even if he rarely knows how to best go about doing that.

    If I were Sark, I would have already gotten out in front of this thing by saying ASJ is practicing with the team and will miss the first quarter of the BSU game. And then I'd be done with it instead of letting it linger.
    Yes.

    This is the thing that bothers me most about Sark. He just doesn't seem to understand that he's the leader of the program. He's the point guy. People look to him for decisions and leadership and it's just not there. He waits and weighs public opinion before making decisions. He just doesn't have that charismatic, self-confident "it" factor that good leaders have.
    This may sound like nit-picking... But for example, I don't like that Sark poses with his players in front of the trophy with a current player felling comfortable enough to put their arm around him. It denotes a lack of authority in that context, and it doesn't send the right signal to anyone viewing the pic. You wouldn't see that with Saban, Miles or even Jimmy Mora.

    It sends the message that the coach is buddy-buddy and a bit of a people pleaser and a puss.

    Now, it's nit-picking in the sense that if we were going 10-3 every year, I wouldn't care how they posed for pics. But it stands out in view of 7-6.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 11,453

    tracker said:

    Mad_Son said:

    If Sark wanted to save his career AND look tough, he would say ASJ is out for the bowl (assuming a bowl happens). At least this shows he cares more about winning, even if he rarely knows how to best go about doing that.

    If I were Sark, I would have already gotten out in front of this thing by saying ASJ is practicing with the team and will miss the first quarter of the BSU game. And then I'd be done with it instead of letting it linger.
    Yes.

    This is the thing that bothers me most about Sark. He just doesn't seem to understand that he's the leader of the program. He's the point guy. People look to him for decisions and leadership and it's just not there. He waits and weighs public opinion before making decisions. He just doesn't have that charismatic, self-confident "it" factor that good leaders have.
    This may sound like nit-picking... But for example, I don't like that Sark poses with his players in front of the trophy with a current player felling comfortable enough to put their arm around him. It denotes a lack of authority in that context, and it doesn't send the right signal to anyone viewing the pic. You wouldn't see that with Saban, Miles or even Jimmy Mora.

    It sends the message that the coach is buddy-buddy and a bit of a people pleaser and a puss.

    Now, it's nit-picking in the sense that if we were going 10-3 every year, I wouldn't care how they posed for pics. But it stands out in view of 7-6.
    I think it is nit picking. I don't like Sark but I don't mind this. I'm sure you have pics of Carroll doing that with players even now with the Seahawks.

    I do agree with you that not making a decision on ASJ falls on him. He should make a decision on ASJ stick with it, so the team can move on from it. Answer all the questions now and get focused on beating Boise.

    Anyways all this is a mute point, the season is already over.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    tracker said:

    Mad_Son said:

    If Sark wanted to save his career AND look tough, he would say ASJ is out for the bowl (assuming a bowl happens). At least this shows he cares more about winning, even if he rarely knows how to best go about doing that.

    If I were Sark, I would have already gotten out in front of this thing by saying ASJ is practicing with the team and will miss the first quarter of the BSU game. And then I'd be done with it instead of letting it linger.
    Yes.

    This is the thing that bothers me most about Sark. He just doesn't seem to understand that he's the leader of the program. He's the point guy. People look to him for decisions and leadership and it's just not there. He waits and weighs public opinion before making decisions. He just doesn't have that charismatic, self-confident "it" factor that good leaders have.
    This may sound like nit-picking... But for example, I don't like that Sark poses with his players in front of the trophy with a current player felling comfortable enough to put their arm around him. It denotes a lack of authority in that context, and it doesn't send the right signal to anyone viewing the pic. You wouldn't see that with Saban, Miles or even Jimmy Mora.

    It sends the message that the coach is buddy-buddy and a bit of a people pleaser and a puss.

    Now, it's nit-picking in the sense that if we were going 10-3 every year, I wouldn't care how they posed for pics. But it stands out in view of 7-6.
    That was my point when I started this thread. Sark does not command respect. He is the players buddy

    hardcorehusky.com/forums/#/discussion/1368/don-james-vs-sark-a-pictorial/p1
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,738 Founders Club

    tracker said:

    Mad_Son said:

    If Sark wanted to save his career AND look tough, he would say ASJ is out for the bowl (assuming a bowl happens). At least this shows he cares more about winning, even if he rarely knows how to best go about doing that.

    If I were Sark, I would have already gotten out in front of this thing by saying ASJ is practicing with the team and will miss the first quarter of the BSU game. And then I'd be done with it instead of letting it linger.
    Yes.

    This is the thing that bothers me most about Sark. He just doesn't seem to understand that he's the leader of the program. He's the point guy. People look to him for decisions and leadership and it's just not there. He waits and weighs public opinion before making decisions. He just doesn't have that charismatic, self-confident "it" factor that good leaders have.
    This may sound like nit-picking... But for example, I don't like that Sark poses with his players in front of the trophy with a current player felling comfortable enough to put their arm around him. It denotes a lack of authority in that context, and it doesn't send the right signal to anyone viewing the pic. You wouldn't see that with Saban, Miles or even Jimmy Mora.

    It sends the message that the coach is buddy-buddy and a bit of a people pleaser and a puss.

    Now, it's nit-picking in the sense that if we were going 10-3 every year, I wouldn't care how they posed for pics. But it stands out in view of 7-6.
    Very much agree. Sark needs to knock off the big brother act and start being a figure that commands respect. These kids wouldn't be dancing around and all smiles while getting drilled if they "feared" and respected the HC a bit.
  • Dawgs4ever
    Dawgs4ever Member Posts: 170
    He's trying to be cute and keep BSU guessing as to whether ASJ will play. A good coach wouldn't give a shit if BSU knew that ASJ was playing because it wouldn't matter in the outcome.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    edited July 2013
    It would probably be good for Sark to maybe not have ASJ for the game anyways. Maybe then he'll actually be force to run the football, and blindly come to the realization that running the football with Sankey actually wins football games.
  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,346 Founders Club

    Would a statement like this from any college coach work "I'm not going to punish the entire team for one players mistake and that's what suspending him would do. We are going to handle this matter internally. And believe me when we are through with player x he's going to wish he had just been suspended". Obviously the last line is bullshit but it plays to crowd.

    This would work and it wouldn't have to be bullshit. They could run his ass into the ground, push him until he's puking and crying for his momma, and then push him some more. That would get the point across and I think ASJ is the type who would take the punishment without pulling an Adam James. In fact he'd probably use the experience as a warning to his team mates.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,127

    Would a statement like this from any college coach work "I'm not going to punish the entire team for one players mistake and that's what suspending him would do. We are going to handle this matter internally. And believe me when we are through with player x he's going to wish he had just been suspended". Obviously the last line is bullshit but it plays to crowd.

    Good post. This would be another effective way to handle the situation.

    This is just another instance of Sark getting cute like his playcalling and trying to get WSU to jump offsides on 3rd and 1. He probably thinks it is good gamemanship to keep this a secret.

  • HeretoBeatmyChest
    HeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295

    It would probably be good for Sark to maybe not have ASJ for the game anyways. Maybe then he'll actually be force to run the football, and blindly come to the realization that running the football with Sankey actually wins football games.

    The Duck has a point.
  • HeretoBeatmyChest
    HeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295

    Counterpoint: Urban Meyer Rick Neuheisel won a Rose Bowl national title and popped off with a future triple murderer Jeremiah Pharms (allegedly) on the roster.