Josh Conerly, 2022 5* OL, Seattle (Rainier Beach), WA (Offered)
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Oddly enough there was a time when they would do very well herednc said:
An OL is unlikely to kill it in NIL anywhere.DawgsCanDance said:Why would any 5 star kid sign with UW now with a ton of NIL money out there by signing with a top money generating school... Seriously. To turn this around we are going to need to see some UW kids driving Corvettes [with 24/7 on campus parking, not at the dump] and getting some attractive deals with the attendant publicity ~ and sooner rather than later. I'm not saying its a good thing or a bad thing, i just think that is what is happening.
We liked our big uglies
Imagine the possibilities with someone named Lincoln Kennedy -
The yet to play qb’s for osu and al would like to weigh in on this. The one that looks like the brother from stranger things just inked a deal with what I’ll accumulatively see in my ENTIRE lifetime.HFNY said:
Need a multi-multi-multi-multi millionaire to step up, preferably a billionaire. But none of the local people who fit that care enough except for maybe the Nordstrom and Paccar families?DawgsCanDance said:Why would any 5 star kid sign with UW now with a ton of NIL money out there by signing with a top money generating school... Seriously. To turn this around we are going to need to see some UW kids driving Corvettes [with 24/7 on campus parking, not at the dump] and getting some attractive deals with the attendant publicity ~ and sooner rather than later. I'm not saying its a good thing or a bad thing, i just think that is what is happening.
In the meantime, I will look in my couch's moderately used cushions.
He might be dreaming but he’s not wrong. -
I think generally you're on the right track, but the naive, hopeful side of me still thinks there might be some guys who are willing to give up the short-term benefits of a car lease or free hamburgers for the longer-term benefits of player where their parents can come to the games, they can receive better coaching, they can win, and/or they can play with guys they know.DawgsCanDance said:Why would any 5 star kid sign with UW now with a ton of NIL money out there by signing with a top money generating school... Seriously. To turn this around we are going to need to see some UW kids driving Corvettes [with 24/7 on campus parking, not at the dump] and getting some attractive deals with the attendant publicity ~ and sooner rather than later. I'm not saying its a good thing or a bad thing, i just think that is what is happening.
Why would you risk your future getting shitty coaching from a guy who will probably get fired while you're there just for a little up front money? -
Mark Pigott does not care.HFNY said:
Need a multi-multi-multi-multi millionaire to step up, preferably a billionaire. But none of the local people who fit that care enough except for maybe the Nordstrom and Paccar families?DawgsCanDance said:Why would any 5 star kid sign with UW now with a ton of NIL money out there by signing with a top money generating school... Seriously. To turn this around we are going to need to see some UW kids driving Corvettes [with 24/7 on campus parking, not at the dump] and getting some attractive deals with the attendant publicity ~ and sooner rather than later. I'm not saying its a good thing or a bad thing, i just think that is what is happening.
In the meantime, I will look in my couch's moderately used cushions. -
Yeah i should say an incoming OL. Obviously an AA OL could make NIL money in the right place.RaceBannon said:
Oddly enough there was a time when they would do very well herednc said:
An OL is unlikely to kill it in NIL anywhere.DawgsCanDance said:Why would any 5 star kid sign with UW now with a ton of NIL money out there by signing with a top money generating school... Seriously. To turn this around we are going to need to see some UW kids driving Corvettes [with 24/7 on campus parking, not at the dump] and getting some attractive deals with the attendant publicity ~ and sooner rather than later. I'm not saying its a good thing or a bad thing, i just think that is what is happening.
We liked our big uglies
Imagine the possibilities with someone named Lincoln Kennedy -
These are teenagers and you’re giving them the benefit of the doubt…Easy-E said it best “young, dumb, and full of cum.”RealRhino said:
I think generally you're on the right track, but the naive, hopeful side of me still thinks there might be some guys who are willing to give up the short-term benefits of a car lease or free hamburgers for the longer-term benefits of player where their parents can come to the games, they can receive better coaching, they can win, and/or they can play with guys they know.DawgsCanDance said:Why would any 5 star kid sign with UW now with a ton of NIL money out there by signing with a top money generating school... Seriously. To turn this around we are going to need to see some UW kids driving Corvettes [with 24/7 on campus parking, not at the dump] and getting some attractive deals with the attendant publicity ~ and sooner rather than later. I'm not saying its a good thing or a bad thing, i just think that is what is happening.
Why would you risk your future getting shitty coaching from a guy who will probably get fired while you're there just for a little up front money? -
I think we're trying to sell to the ones whose parents would step in and tell them the real money is in the NFL, not in a Taco Time sponsorship for free burritos or even a duffel bag full of Nike gear.dirtysouwfdawg said:
These are teenagers and you’re giving them the benefit of the doubt…Easy-E said it best “young, dumb, and full of cum.”RealRhino said:
I think generally you're on the right track, but the naive, hopeful side of me still thinks there might be some guys who are willing to give up the short-term benefits of a car lease or free hamburgers for the longer-term benefits of player where their parents can come to the games, they can receive better coaching, they can win, and/or they can play with guys they know.DawgsCanDance said:Why would any 5 star kid sign with UW now with a ton of NIL money out there by signing with a top money generating school... Seriously. To turn this around we are going to need to see some UW kids driving Corvettes [with 24/7 on campus parking, not at the dump] and getting some attractive deals with the attendant publicity ~ and sooner rather than later. I'm not saying its a good thing or a bad thing, i just think that is what is happening.
Why would you risk your future getting shitty coaching from a guy who will probably get fired while you're there just for a little up front money? -
The point is there are teams out there that play good football, are a good educational university and regularly put guys in the pros in at advanced rate that have a business community that will step up and pay highly ranked prospects a substantial sum to attend.
I realize this is breathlessly stating the obvious but this is now totally out in the public view, and is a new wide open landscape to recognize and deal with without insisting on romantic illusions -
Rolling up to the Michigan game inHFNY said:
Need a multi-multi-multi-multi millionaire to step up, preferably a billionaire. But none of the local people who fit that care enough except for maybe the Nordstrom and Paccar families?DawgsCanDance said:Why would any 5 star kid sign with UW now with a ton of NIL money out there by signing with a top money generating school... Seriously. To turn this around we are going to need to see some UW kids driving Corvettes [with 24/7 on campus parking, not at the dump] and getting some attractive deals with the attendant publicity ~ and sooner rather than later. I'm not saying its a good thing or a bad thing, i just think that is what is happening.
In the meantime, I will look in my couch's moderately used cushions.
Looking fly as hell
If our team doesn't roll up to the Michigan game swagged out in whatever designer clothes they want from Nordstrom in custom Purple and Gold Kenworth w900s I will be extremely disappointed. -
We might even flip that Texas kid. W900 > f250Bread said:
Rolling up to the Michigan game inHFNY said:
Need a multi-multi-multi-multi millionaire to step up, preferably a billionaire. But none of the local people who fit that care enough except for maybe the Nordstrom and Paccar families?DawgsCanDance said:Why would any 5 star kid sign with UW now with a ton of NIL money out there by signing with a top money generating school... Seriously. To turn this around we are going to need to see some UW kids driving Corvettes [with 24/7 on campus parking, not at the dump] and getting some attractive deals with the attendant publicity ~ and sooner rather than later. I'm not saying its a good thing or a bad thing, i just think that is what is happening.
In the meantime, I will look in my couch's moderately used cushions.
Looking fly as hell
If our team doesn't roll up to the Michigan game swagged out in whatever designer clothes they want from Nordstrom in custom Purple and Gold Kenworth w900s I will be extremely disappointed. -
This is whole nil is so crazy, man. 17 year old kids signing million dollar deals before even playing a snap of college ball.
I guess in this nuts economy might as well grab what you can get and what's available and then some.
If boosters or companies want to spend "supporting" the next xxx high school star to potentially flameout ... I guess it is what it is.
Remember Craig Chambers?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/699015-college-football-recruiting-the-20-worst-5-star-recruiting-busts-of-the-2000s.amp.html -
There's always a break in period for something new. The usual suspect winners are first th throw money at everyone. It will settle down
Once you get past the 5 star must have guys you pay for upfront it has always been smarter to pay off performance in college
Under the table or over.
Billy got his Camaro and loan once he was the starter. Summer jobs programs are for current players
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It is nuts. The Ohio State QB that got 1.4 mil might sit on the bench for a few years. Ohio State is starting a freshman that was the #2 QB of his class the year before.animate said:This is whole nil is so crazy, man. 17 year old kids signing million dollar deals before even playing a snap of college ball.
I guess in this nuts economy might as well grab what you can get and what's available and then some.
If boosters or companies want to spend "supporting" the next xxx high school star to potentially flameout ... I guess it is what it is.
Remember Craig Chambers?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/699015-college-football-recruiting-the-20-worst-5-star-recruiting-busts-of-the-2000s.amp.html
Granted Ewers is from Texas, and an elite QB with a mullet that started for the biggest program in the state is valuable, but still. -
I don’t think UW players will reap the benefits of NIL. A superstar QB would. Amazon and Microsoft could easily put a couple mil aside for UW players but they won’t.
Local businesses will use a player from the Seahawks, Mariners, Kraken, and Sounders before using a UW player. A random player on the Seahawks like Freddie Swain has more name value than any UW player. -
So there’s more business people in Columbus? State College?RoadDawg55 said:I don’t think UW players will reap the benefits of NIL. A superstar QB would. Amazon and Microsoft could easily put a couple mil aside for UW players but they won’t.
Local businesses will use a player from the Seahawks, Mariners, Kraken, and Sounders before using a UW player. A random player on the Seahawks like Freddie Swain has more name value than any UW player.
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No.NeGgaPlEaSe said:
So there’s more business people in Columbus? State College?RoadDawg55 said:I don’t think UW players will reap the benefits of NIL. A superstar QB would. Amazon and Microsoft could easily put a couple mil aside for UW players but they won’t.
Local businesses will use a player from the Seahawks, Mariners, Kraken, and Sounders before using a UW player. A random player on the Seahawks like Freddie Swain has more name value than any UW player.
There's more recognition of college fb players in those communities because they are college football towns with no pro sports (okay one hockey team).
Seattle isn't a college town. -
It's going to be interesting how many kids wash out after getting paid. Becoming an overnight millionaire at 17-18 years old is going to send some kids off the rails
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I don't think this is the natural order. It's something that was created by 30 years of fuckery at UW. I think that, had UW and local media made any effort at all, star Huskies would have just as much local celebrity as Mariner or Seahawk players.dnc said:
No.NeGgaPlEaSe said:
So there’s more business people in Columbus? State College?RoadDawg55 said:I don’t think UW players will reap the benefits of NIL. A superstar QB would. Amazon and Microsoft could easily put a couple mil aside for UW players but they won’t.
Local businesses will use a player from the Seahawks, Mariners, Kraken, and Sounders before using a UW player. A random player on the Seahawks like Freddie Swain has more name value than any UW player.
There's more recognition of college fb players in those communities because they are college football towns with no pro sports (okay one hockey team).
Seattle isn't a college town.
Tui would have been as recognizable around town as Junior, Edgar, or Arod if he had been promoted like them. That's what I'm postulating. Maybe I'm full of shit but I don't think so. The "fans" gobble up whomever the media serves them. -
The Hawks making the super bowl in 05 while UW was head on to owen12 turned the tide
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Gay as it sounds, I would love it if they pimped this shit!Bread said:
Rolling up to the Michigan game inHFNY said:
Need a multi-multi-multi-multi millionaire to step up, preferably a billionaire. But none of the local people who fit that care enough except for maybe the Nordstrom and Paccar families?DawgsCanDance said:Why would any 5 star kid sign with UW now with a ton of NIL money out there by signing with a top money generating school... Seriously. To turn this around we are going to need to see some UW kids driving Corvettes [with 24/7 on campus parking, not at the dump] and getting some attractive deals with the attendant publicity ~ and sooner rather than later. I'm not saying its a good thing or a bad thing, i just think that is what is happening.
In the meantime, I will look in my couch's moderately used cushions.
Looking fly as hell
If our team doesn't roll up to the Michigan game swagged out in whatever designer clothes they want from Nordstrom in custom Purple and Gold Kenworth w900s I will be extremely disappointed. -
So we're believing that businesses are paying players out of a legitimate desire for their endorsement services?dnc said:
No.NeGgaPlEaSe said:
So there’s more business people in Columbus? State College?RoadDawg55 said:I don’t think UW players will reap the benefits of NIL. A superstar QB would. Amazon and Microsoft could easily put a couple mil aside for UW players but they won’t.
Local businesses will use a player from the Seahawks, Mariners, Kraken, and Sounders before using a UW player. A random player on the Seahawks like Freddie Swain has more name value than any UW player.
There's more recognition of college fb players in those communities because they are college football towns with no pro sports (okay one hockey team).
Seattle isn't a college town.
That's cute.
The reason Microsoft or Amazon won't pay a UW player for NIL is the same reason they wouldn't pay for the #1 recruit in a midwest college town: they DGAF. You know who does? Rich college football fans who want to feel like they're part of the team and important. In the past, they'd give PSAs cars, family apartments, trips, cash, whatever under the table in an effort to attract them to their school. The only difference now is they can brag about it on Twitter and write it off at tax time.
Those OSU guysm didn't get free cars because it's great advertising, they got free cars because getting players like that to come to the local school helps the local school win. Those quarterbacks didn't get over a million dollars because local business owners need influencers; they got over a million because the people who paid them think watching their team win is worth it.
Think of it more like Detlef's $500K donation, only paid directly to the players, than some kind of legitimate business transaction.
You don't need Seattle big business to step up for the same reason tOSU doesn't. You just need a dozen rabid Husky fans with a million extra dollars per year in the bank to be vain and crazy enough to decide the most satisfying use of that exccess would be to personally big-dick the states of Alabama, Ohio, and South Carolina by buying a winner. -
dnc said:
No.NeGgaPlEaSe said:
So there’s more business people in Columbus? State College?RoadDawg55 said:I don’t think UW players will reap the benefits of NIL. A superstar QB would. Amazon and Microsoft could easily put a couple mil aside for UW players but they won’t.
Local businesses will use a player from the Seahawks, Mariners, Kraken, and Sounders before using a UW player. A random player on the Seahawks like Freddie Swain has more name value than any UW player.
There's more recognition of college fb players in those communities because they are college football towns with no pro sports (okay one hockey team).
Seattle isn't a college town.
Zero reason that should stay the same unless you had competent leadership at the AD. Sloppy Tits needs to create a culture where people craved to be a part of the cool kids. Everyone wants to. -
hopefullySources said:It's going to be interesting how many kids wash out after getting paid. Becoming an overnight millionaire at 17-18 years old is going to send some kids off the rails
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It does have some to do with that. Players at college football factories with nothing else going don’t have to share attention. They are the big ticket in town.chuck said:
I don't think this is the natural order. It's something that was created by 30 years of fuckery at UW. I think that, had UW and local media made any effort at all, star Huskies would have just as much local celebrity as Mariner or Seahawk players.dnc said:
No.NeGgaPlEaSe said:
So there’s more business people in Columbus? State College?RoadDawg55 said:I don’t think UW players will reap the benefits of NIL. A superstar QB would. Amazon and Microsoft could easily put a couple mil aside for UW players but they won’t.
Local businesses will use a player from the Seahawks, Mariners, Kraken, and Sounders before using a UW player. A random player on the Seahawks like Freddie Swain has more name value than any UW player.
There's more recognition of college fb players in those communities because they are college football towns with no pro sports (okay one hockey team).
Seattle isn't a college town.
Tui would have been as recognizable around town as Junior, Edgar, or Arod if he had been promoted like them. That's what I'm postulating. Maybe I'm full of shit but I don't think so. The "fans" gobble up whomever the media serves them.
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All good stuff EXCEPT your second paragraph. AL and tOSU’s qb’s received these contracts through legit regional/national brands. I don’t think those fuckers are tied to any one school because it’s decision by committee. Those fucks are hoping that the kids have an amazing college career and just maybe they amount to shit in the NFL and then they really have something at that point to push their brand.1to392831weretaken said:
So we're believing that businesses are paying players out of a legitimate desire for their endorsement services?dnc said:
No.NeGgaPlEaSe said:
So there’s more business people in Columbus? State College?RoadDawg55 said:I don’t think UW players will reap the benefits of NIL. A superstar QB would. Amazon and Microsoft could easily put a couple mil aside for UW players but they won’t.
Local businesses will use a player from the Seahawks, Mariners, Kraken, and Sounders before using a UW player. A random player on the Seahawks like Freddie Swain has more name value than any UW player.
There's more recognition of college fb players in those communities because they are college football towns with no pro sports (okay one hockey team).
Seattle isn't a college town.
That's cute.
The reason Microsoft or Amazon won't pay a UW player for NIL is the same reason they wouldn't pay for the #1 recruit in a midwest college town: they DGAF. You know who does? Rich college football fans who want to feel like they're part of the team and important. In the past, they'd give PSAs cars, family apartments, trips, cash, whatever under the table in an effort to attract them to their school. The only difference now is they can brag about it on Twitter and write it off at tax time.
Those OSU guysm didn't get free cars because it's great advertising, they got free cars because getting players like that to come to the local school helps the local school win. Those quarterbacks didn't get over a million dollars because local business owners need influencers; they got over a million because the people who paid them think watching their team win is worth it.
Think of it more like Detlef's $500K donation, only paid directly to the players, than some kind of legitimate business transaction.
You don't need Seattle big business to step up for the same reason tOSU doesn't. You just need a dozen rabid Husky fans with a million extra dollars per year in the bank to be vain and crazy enough to decide the most satisfying use of that exccess would be to personally big-dick the states of Alabama, Ohio, and South Carolina by buying a winner.
Gtsm, cash app, leaf, etc.
If I had time to create a business plan I would honestly start a marketing company That acted as an agency to broker these deals. Early entry in this is still available. Any of you fucks want to start a business?
I mean, come on - read this shit. 3rd paragraph. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nflpa-permits-nfl-agents-to-represent-college-football-players-in-nil-marketing-agreements-per-reports/amp/
You know damn well these agents will rep these kids. These agents will funnel these players through whatever they need to ensure they go pro. Sounds like the gold rush where any body can get a piece. -
The problem with real companies is they actually expect a return on their investment.
Bob's Used Car Dealership in Columbus DGAF -
How much you think D-Mo could get for Ranch Corn Nuts?
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Certainly UW incompetence has played a role in this.
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Bob just wants to be part of the squadNeighbor2972 said:The problem with real companies is they actually expect a return on their investment.
Bob's Used Car Dealership in Columbus DGAF -
This...Neighbor2972 said:The problem with real companies is they actually expect a return on their investment.
Bob's Used Car Dealership in Columbus DGAF
And this.RaceBannon said:
Bob just wants to be part of the squadNeighbor2972 said:The problem with real companies is they actually expect a return on their investment.
Bob's Used Car Dealership in Columbus DGAF
