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"Honorable nazis?"

Jesus Christ.

Passion said:

"Honorable nazis?"

Jesus Christ.

PassionFS

Not all Germans supported the Nazi party. Rommel had serious reservations regarding the Nazis, but was committed to doing his job as a General. He believed in keeping his political beliefs separate from his job, and had he spoken up he would have been gone. No warning, just gone. He wanted Hitler removed from power during the later years of the war, but did not support assassinating him. He wanted Hitler to be tried by a jury. He ended up with a choice of suicide with an honorable burial, or standing trial for treason and likely being hanged in public. He chose suicide.

Raccoon and PurpleJFS - Yes, not all Germans supported or joined the nazi party, so by definition they were NOT nazis (although we can debate the mass celebrations for Hitler by "non-nazi" civilians after he brutally conquered Poland, France and other European countries).

However, we're not talking about Germans that were not nazis. "oregonblitzkrieg" (classy name) used the term "honorable nazis," and so by definition he was referring to people that had already joined the nazi party, and yet are still honorable. Rommel had plenty of time to get his family out of Germany after the nazis seized power by killing off opposing political parties. He also could have left after the "Night of the Broken Glass." He had the means to do so, but chose not to.

Rommel protested treatment of Jews, but his larger frustration with Hitler was over stupid military decisions, not human rights violations. There is a difference. If Germany had won the war, Rommel would've gladly lived in comfort in the "Third Reich," and enjoyed his status as a national hero.

I believe that there is a sliding scale when it comes to people that were "honorable" in Germany during that time. Rommel clearly was not as evil as Himmler or Goebbels, but I struggle to call him honorable, just because he didn't want his family to be killed. A lot of people throughout history loved their families, but were assholes to other peoples' families.

You want to call somebody honorable? Here you go: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulrich_Wilhelm_Graf_Schwerin_von_Schwanenfeld

PurpleJ said:

Passion said:

Raccoon and PurpleJFS - Yes, not all Germans supported or joined the nazi party, so by definition they were NOT nazis (although we can debate the mass celebrations for Hitler by "non-nazi" civilians after he brutally conquered Poland, France and other European countries).

However, we're not talking about Germans that were not nazis. "oregonblitzkrieg" (classy name) used the term "honorable nazis," and so by definition he was referring to people that had already joined the nazi party, and yet are still honorable. Rommel had plenty of time to get his family out of Germany after the nazis seized power by killing off opposing political parties. He also could have left after the "Night of the Broken Glass." He had the means to do so, but chose not to.

Rommel protested treatment of Jews, but his larger frustration with Hitler was over stupid military decisions, not human rights violations. There is a difference. If Germany had won the war, Rommel would've gladly lived in comfort in the "Third Reich," and enjoyed his status as a national hero.

I believe that there is a sliding scale when it comes to people that were "honorable" in Germany during that time. Rommel clearly was not as evil as Himmler or Goebbels, but I struggle to call him honorable, just because he didn't want his family to be killed. A lot of people throughout history loved their families, but were assholes to other peoples' families.

You want to call somebody honorable? Here you go: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulrich_Wilhelm_Graf_Schwerin_von_Schwanenfeld

I'd like to see you be a General in the German army and LEAVE Hitler's regime, Mr. 20/20 Hindsight Moral Superiority Big Balls Guy. Hitler brought a lot of hope and change at first, so I'm sure you would have supported him.

FYI: His Afrika Corps was never accused of war crimes, and he was known to ignore orders to kill Jews and other prisoners of war. Is that honorable enough for you?

Thanks in advance for fucking off.

LMFAO! Getting sand in your birth canal because somebody refuses to call a nazi war general "honorable." That's a first for the bored.

Recalling one of my favorite scenes from "The Departed," order a cranberry juice. I heard it's helpful this time of the month.

PurpleJ said:

Passion said:

PurpleJ said:

Passion said:

Raccoon and PurpleJFS - Yes, not all Germans supported or joined the nazi party, so by definition they were NOT nazis (although we can debate the mass celebrations for Hitler by "non-nazi" civilians after he brutally conquered Poland, France and other European countries).

However, we're not talking about Germans that were not nazis. "oregonblitzkrieg" (classy name) used the term "honorable nazis," and so by definition he was referring to people that had already joined the nazi party, and yet are still honorable. Rommel had plenty of time to get his family out of Germany after the nazis seized power by killing off opposing political parties. He also could have left after the "Night of the Broken Glass." He had the means to do so, but chose not to.

Rommel protested treatment of Jews, but his larger frustration with Hitler was over stupid military decisions, not human rights violations. There is a difference. If Germany had won the war, Rommel would've gladly lived in comfort in the "Third Reich," and enjoyed his status as a national hero.

I believe that there is a sliding scale when it comes to people that were "honorable" in Germany during that time. Rommel clearly was not as evil as Himmler or Goebbels, but I struggle to call him honorable, just because he didn't want his family to be killed. A lot of people throughout history loved their families, but were assholes to other peoples' families.

You want to call somebody honorable? Here you go: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulrich_Wilhelm_Graf_Schwerin_von_Schwanenfeld

I'd like to see you be a General in the German army and LEAVE Hitler's regime, Mr. 20/20 Hindsight Moral Superiority Big Balls Guy. Hitler brought a lot of hope and change at first, so I'm sure you would have supported him.

FYI: His Afrika Corps was never accused of war crimes, and he was known to ignore orders to kill Jews and other prisoners of war. Is that honorable enough for you?

Thanks in advance for fucking off.

LMFAO! Getting sand in your birth canal because somebody refuses to call a nazi war general "honorable." That's a first for the bored.

Recalling one of my favorite scenes from "The Departed," order a cranberry juice. I heard it's helpful this time of the month.

Not sandy, just pointing out the flaws in your argument. Based on your response, I'm guessing you have nothing to rebut it with. Nice to see you haven't changed. Have a nice day.

I already skewered your argument with my previous post. I never said Rommel's Afrika corps committed atrocities, and I already said that he spoke up against the mistreatment of Jews.

But he fought for the world dominance of a regime that committed horrible mass atrocities against civilians. Some of the worse crimes the world has ever seen. And we're supposed to overlook this simply because he was a soldier? "I don't agree with mass murdering innocent people, but I'm going to do everything I can to give you the power to keep doing it."

Fuck that. You're a general; you have connections and the means to move. Make arrangements, pack up your family, and get the hell out. Lots of Germans did. Loyalty to the army is not as important as loyalty to humanity.

You've got no answer to that. You've got no answer to Rommel's willingness to kill people that opposed everything the Third Reich stood for. Rommel was in the same room with Hitler on countless occasions. Pull out your fucking pistol and blow his head off.

Telling somebody to "fuck off" is not indicative of sand? Yah, right. One cranberry comin' up.

Passion said:

PurpleJ said:

Passion said:

PurpleJ said:

Passion said:

Raccoon and PurpleJFS - Yes, not all Germans supported or joined the nazi party, so by definition they were NOT nazis (although we can debate the mass celebrations for Hitler by "non-nazi" civilians after he brutally conquered Poland, France and other European countries).

However, we're not talking about Germans that were not nazis. "oregonblitzkrieg" (classy name) used the term "honorable nazis," and so by definition he was referring to people that had already joined the nazi party, and yet are still honorable. Rommel had plenty of time to get his family out of Germany after the nazis seized power by killing off opposing political parties. He also could have left after the "Night of the Broken Glass." He had the means to do so, but chose not to.

Rommel protested treatment of Jews, but his larger frustration with Hitler was over stupid military decisions, not human rights violations. There is a difference. If Germany had won the war, Rommel would've gladly lived in comfort in the "Third Reich," and enjoyed his status as a national hero.

I believe that there is a sliding scale when it comes to people that were "honorable" in Germany during that time. Rommel clearly was not as evil as Himmler or Goebbels, but I struggle to call him honorable, just because he didn't want his family to be killed. A lot of people throughout history loved their families, but were assholes to other peoples' families.

You want to call somebody honorable? Here you go: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulrich_Wilhelm_Graf_Schwerin_von_Schwanenfeld

I'd like to see you be a General in the German army and LEAVE Hitler's regime, Mr. 20/20 Hindsight Moral Superiority Big Balls Guy. Hitler brought a lot of hope and change at first, so I'm sure you would have supported him.

FYI: His Afrika Corps was never accused of war crimes, and he was known to ignore orders to kill Jews and other prisoners of war. Is that honorable enough for you?

Thanks in advance for fucking off.

LMFAO! Getting sand in your birth canal because somebody refuses to call a nazi war general "honorable." That's a first for the bored.

Recalling one of my favorite scenes from "The Departed," order a cranberry juice. I heard it's helpful this time of the month.

Not sandy, just pointing out the flaws in your argument. Based on your response, I'm guessing you have nothing to rebut it with. Nice to see you haven't changed. Have a nice day.

I already skewered your argument with my previous post. I never said Rommel's Afrika corps committed atrocities, and I already said that he spoke up against the mistreatment of Jews.

But he fought for the world dominance of a regime that committed horrible mass atrocities against civilians. Some of the worse crimes the world has ever seen. And we're supposed to overlook this simply because he was a soldier? "I don't agree with mass murdering innocent people, but I'm going to do everything I can to give you the power to keep doing it."

Fuck that. You're a general; you have connections and the means to move. Make arrangements, pack up your family, and get the hell out. Lots of Germans did. Loyalty to the army is not as important as loyalty to humanity.

You've got no answer to that. You've got no answer to Rommel's willingness to kill people that opposed everything the Third Reich stood for. Rommel was in the same room with Hitler on countless occasions. Pull out your fucking pistol and blow his head off.

Telling somebody to "fuck off" is not indicative of sand? Yah, right. One cranberry comin' up.

Not only stupid, but stupid and naive. Deadly combo

Passion said:

PostGameOrangeSlices said:

Passion said:

PurpleJ said:

Passion said:

PurpleJ said:

Passion said:

Raccoon and PurpleJFS - Yes, not all Germans supported or joined the nazi party, so by definition they were NOT nazis (although we can debate the mass celebrations for Hitler by "non-nazi" civilians after he brutally conquered Poland, France and other European countries).

However, we're not talking about Germans that were not nazis. "oregonblitzkrieg" (classy name) used the term "honorable nazis," and so by definition he was referring to people that had already joined the nazi party, and yet are still honorable. Rommel had plenty of time to get his family out of Germany after the nazis seized power by killing off opposing political parties. He also could have left after the "Night of the Broken Glass." He had the means to do so, but chose not to.

Rommel protested treatment of Jews, but his larger frustration with Hitler was over stupid military decisions, not human rights violations. There is a difference. If Germany had won the war, Rommel would've gladly lived in comfort in the "Third Reich," and enjoyed his status as a national hero.

I believe that there is a sliding scale when it comes to people that were "honorable" in Germany during that time. Rommel clearly was not as evil as Himmler or Goebbels, but I struggle to call him honorable, just because he didn't want his family to be killed. A lot of people throughout history loved their families, but were assholes to other peoples' families.

You want to call somebody honorable? Here you go: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulrich_Wilhelm_Graf_Schwerin_von_Schwanenfeld

I'd like to see you be a General in the German army and LEAVE Hitler's regime, Mr. 20/20 Hindsight Moral Superiority Big Balls Guy. Hitler brought a lot of hope and change at first, so I'm sure you would have supported him.

FYI: His Afrika Corps was never accused of war crimes, and he was known to ignore orders to kill Jews and other prisoners of war. Is that honorable enough for you?

Thanks in advance for fucking off.

LMFAO! Getting sand in your birth canal because somebody refuses to call a nazi war general "honorable." That's a first for the bored.

Recalling one of my favorite scenes from "The Departed," order a cranberry juice. I heard it's helpful this time of the month.

Not sandy, just pointing out the flaws in your argument. Based on your response, I'm guessing you have nothing to rebut it with. Nice to see you haven't changed. Have a nice day.

I already skewered your argument with my previous post. I never said Rommel's Afrika corps committed atrocities, and I already said that he spoke up against the mistreatment of Jews.

But he fought for the world dominance of a regime that committed horrible mass atrocities against civilians. Some of the worse crimes the world has ever seen. And we're supposed to overlook this simply because he was a soldier? "I don't agree with mass murdering innocent people, but I'm going to do everything I can to give you the power to keep doing it."

Fuck that. You're a general; you have connections and the means to move. Make arrangements, pack up your family, and get the hell out. Lots of Germans did. Loyalty to the army is not as important as loyalty to humanity.

You've got no answer to that. You've got no answer to Rommel's willingness to kill people that opposed everything the Third Reich stood for. Rommel was in the same room with Hitler on countless occasions. Pull out your fucking pistol and blow his head off.

Telling somebody to "fuck off" is not indicative of sand? Yah, right. One cranberry comin' up.

Not only stupid, but stupid and naive. Deadly combo

Wow...brilliant arguments. Based in fact and filled with persuasiveness. Well done.

Well, you already failed in your rebuttal to such arguments. So I really can't blame pgos for low tweaking you.

PostGameOrangeSlices said:

Passion said:

PostGameOrangeSlices said:

Passion said:

PurpleJ said:

Passion said:

PurpleJ said:

Passion said:

Raccoon and PurpleJFS - Yes, not all Germans supported or joined the nazi party, so by definition they were NOT nazis (although we can debate the mass celebrations for Hitler by "non-nazi" civilians after he brutally conquered Poland, France and other European countries).

However, we're not talking about Germans that were not nazis. "oregonblitzkrieg" (classy name) used the term "honorable nazis," and so by definition he was referring to people that had already joined the nazi party, and yet are still honorable. Rommel had plenty of time to get his family out of Germany after the nazis seized power by killing off opposing political parties. He also could have left after the "Night of the Broken Glass." He had the means to do so, but chose not to.

Rommel protested treatment of Jews, but his larger frustration with Hitler was over stupid military decisions, not human rights violations. There is a difference. If Germany had won the war, Rommel would've gladly lived in comfort in the "Third Reich," and enjoyed his status as a national hero.

I believe that there is a sliding scale when it comes to people that were "honorable" in Germany during that time. Rommel clearly was not as evil as Himmler or Goebbels, but I struggle to call him honorable, just because he didn't want his family to be killed. A lot of people throughout history loved their families, but were assholes to other peoples' families.

You want to call somebody honorable? Here you go: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulrich_Wilhelm_Graf_Schwerin_von_Schwanenfeld

I'd like to see you be a General in the German army and LEAVE Hitler's regime, Mr. 20/20 Hindsight Moral Superiority Big Balls Guy. Hitler brought a lot of hope and change at first, so I'm sure you would have supported him.

FYI: His Afrika Corps was never accused of war crimes, and he was known to ignore orders to kill Jews and other prisoners of war. Is that honorable enough for you?

Thanks in advance for fucking off.

LMFAO! Getting sand in your birth canal because somebody refuses to call a nazi war general "honorable." That's a first for the bored.

Recalling one of my favorite scenes from "The Departed," order a cranberry juice. I heard it's helpful this time of the month.

Not sandy, just pointing out the flaws in your argument. Based on your response, I'm guessing you have nothing to rebut it with. Nice to see you haven't changed. Have a nice day.

I already skewered your argument with my previous post. I never said Rommel's Afrika corps committed atrocities, and I already said that he spoke up against the mistreatment of Jews.

But he fought for the world dominance of a regime that committed horrible mass atrocities against civilians. Some of the worse crimes the world has ever seen. And we're supposed to overlook this simply because he was a soldier? "I don't agree with mass murdering innocent people, but I'm going to do everything I can to give you the power to keep doing it."

Fuck that. You're a general; you have connections and the means to move. Make arrangements, pack up your family, and get the hell out. Lots of Germans did. Loyalty to the army is not as important as loyalty to humanity.

You've got no answer to that. You've got no answer to Rommel's willingness to kill people that opposed everything the Third Reich stood for. Rommel was in the same room with Hitler on countless occasions. Pull out your fucking pistol and blow his head off.

Telling somebody to "fuck off" is not indicative of sand? Yah, right. One cranberry comin' up.

Not only stupid, but stupid and naive. Deadly combo

Wow...brilliant arguments. Based in fact and filled with persuasiveness. Well done.

Not going to waste my time responding to your drivel dude, Purp already made you look foolish. I bet you think everyone in the US military during WW2 was a "good guy".

Not how the world works

I already gave an example of an "honorable" German that opposed Hitler in the right way, and paid for it. I also said that Rommel was in no way in the same category as Goebbels and Himmler.

If you want to praise Rommel, go for it. I'll save my praise for Ulrich-Wilhelm Graf Schwerin von Schwanenfeld.

I wonder if Passion knows about this.

MikeDamone said:

PurpleJ said:

MikeDamone said:

Mods?

I thought you were a mod?

Not a mod or a dev or staff.

I should have made my sarcasm more obvious. I was mocking whoever said that.

AZDuck said:

Getting to be like Poland 1939 in here.