How bad was S&C under Ivan? (Tequila long)
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Here's a list of games during Sark's tenure that we can all agree our superior conditioning led directly to our victory:
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Dont know where youre getting this info brah. Everyone knows iso biceps 5 days a week, when used in tandem with Advocare products, produces Gameday champions
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If you recall, Ivan was supposed to replace Tyrone's guy (can't recall his name) and bring the team up to big college strength and size. It's another example of Sark's fraudulent head coach status, a great coach would know who was a top guy for that position from years of experience. Now watch the USC 4 and 5 star kids regress in the training program.
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I still can't believe ASJ came back weighing 290 going into the season last year. I don't get how that was even possible or how Sark allowed it to happen. That alone should have been cause for Sark being fired. I feel the same way about Sark supposedly allowing Mike Cox to dick around recruiting Garnett and Banner. I hope Woodward was at least chewing Sark out about that type of stuff and asking him what the fuck he was doing.bananasnblondes said:Ivan was a complete fraud. When Sark took over there was all this talk about "the players Willingham left all have huge bellies and skinny arms". Well, after Ivan got a hold of em they just had skinny arms. For visual proof you can go find the fall practice pics from last year that the LP3 took. Pay special attention to Erik Kohler. This is a guy who was in "Ivan's system" for 4 years and he had the physique of a backup on a high school team. I don't think ASJ added a pound of muscle in his years as a husky, and then there were all the non-contact injuries.
It's nice to see that Socha is a proponent of old school strength training. Ivan was big into resistance bands and crossfit type shit that he was probably getting kick backs on. Last years strength numbers were so appalling I'm surprised Sark even let them be leaked, and of course Kim was there to quickly tell everyone that they didn't understand how football strength training works now.
Much like with the head coaches office, it's nice to have an adult in the weight room again
Strength coaches are important, but they are somewhat interchangeable. If you get in the weight room and work hard, the results will come. I know that's simplistic and there is a lot of intricate stuff that goes into a college football S&C program, but the head coach sets the tone. We went from having a fat, undisciplined party animal to a real football coach. The whole program has been improved because of that. -
Trent Greener was his name. The players disliked him so much that some of them like CJ Wallace ended up training at Gold's Gym instead.
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S&C was a huge emphasis for Carroll when first he got to USC. I recall reading something about how very few players could squat and clean a certain amount. Then a year later it something like 20 guys were able to lift that amount.
I guess we don't need to wait, because Socha has already got a hold of them. -
Wasn't Greener Willingham's 1st S&C coach and then when he was replaced, Kim and the LP3 started telling us how terrible he was and the new guy was awesome?DerekJohnson said:Trent Greener was his name. The players disliked him so much that some of them like CJ Wallace ended up training at Gold's Gym instead.
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Here is some more evidence, thanks to USC's scout site. http://usc.scout.com/story/1377439-lewis-tough-enough-to-eat-nails
He seems more concerned with addressing the question "why" rather than "how much", a philosophy he's cultivated in his own time as a head coach and a method he says differs slightly than his mentor's. "It's not always about the weights, it's about the whys. Why we do things." Lewis explained. "Coach Carlisle's philosophy was really about how to, how fast, how much."
This quote helps strengthen (lol) the previous statements on why the S&C program is much more difficult now. Under Lewis, it isn't always about the weights, and it isn't about completing a certain amount. Now, Socha sets quotas for these players to meet and demands that they do these work-outs properly. No shit the S&C is going to be a lot harder when you have a coach that demands you complete what was assigned to you and that you complete them the right way. Just go back to Riva's video. Or look at those Pro Days numbers above. Or back to ASJ's assessment by the NFL scouts, calling him soft.
Other gems from the article:
Lewis emphasized multiple times the importance of players "buying in" to a strength program.
"It's just a great staff who has been put together and we are just buying into that."
"We're going to play 100 miles per hour and we're going to win. It's going to be great." -
Greener was a joke. Ty basically threw Emptermann under the bus and fucked him over. Needless to say, the team was not happy about that at all. Not that it's important that the team is friends with the S&C coach, but to fire Emptermann after the spring and bring in a guy the whole team hated and was a complete joke. I'll just say in Ty's first year, that didn't exactly help the players buy into his system (not that he even had one).CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
Wasn't Greener Willingham's 1st S&C coach and then when he was replaced, Kim and the LP3 started telling us how terrible he was and the new guy was awesome?DerekJohnson said:Trent Greener was his name. The players disliked him so much that some of them like CJ Wallace ended up training at Gold's Gym instead.
