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Keionte Scott, 2022 (JUCO) 3* DB, Ephraim (Snow College), UT (Offered)
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Arizona DB coach punching air right now.
His tape is pretty good, certainly a playmaker. Would like to know measurables of course. Not too much info about him, looks like he wasn't really recruited out of hs, maybe he grew a lot in the last couple years.
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Not watching the video at this point …
But having to go the JuCo route in DB recruiting is pretty damn telling -
Telling of what? I mean, I probably know most of what you'd say, but am curious for your full take.Tequilla said:Not watching the video at this point …
But having to go the JuCo route in DB recruiting is pretty damn telling
One concern it immediately raises for me is that they're not feeling too good about the db room, specifically the corners, behind Gordon and McDuffie. I read somewhere earlier that Elijah Jackson and Powell were the guys standing out behind the starters. That caused me to raise an eyebrow, now this offer increases my suspicions about what that means.
I haven't watched so I don't even know, but I assume he's a corner. -
Terrence and Whillup just went 1 for 16 on DB targets (from HS) this cycle. They are having to scavenger the juco ranks because no one from the hs ranks want to play for uschuck said:
Telling of what? I mean, I probably know most of what you'd say, but am curious for your full take.Tequilla said:Not watching the video at this point …
But having to go the JuCo route in DB recruiting is pretty damn telling
One concern it immediately raises for me is that they're not feeling too good about the db room, specifically the corners, behind Gordon and McDuffie. I read somewhere earlier that Elijah Jackson and Powell were the guys standing out behind the starters. That caused me to raise an eyebrow, now this offer increases my suspicions about what that means.
I haven't watched so I don't even know, but I assume he's a corner. -
Again, we're competing with Zona, Beavers, and Colorado for our recruits.
Just fucking roll the dice and see if you can win some games and use that to your advantage in recruiting. Filling up our commit list with guys Willingham would have taken, at this point, is not a sound strategy -
Well duh, but offering a JC corner and whiffing on HS guys probably points to different issues. One is about the very near future, specifically next season, while the other is about a few years down the road.UDubHusky23 said:
Terrence and Whillup just went 1 for 16 on DB targets (from HS) this cycle. They are having to scavenger the juco ranks because no one from the hs ranks want to play for uschuck said:
Telling of what? I mean, I probably know most of what you'd say, but am curious for your full take.Tequilla said:Not watching the video at this point …
But having to go the JuCo route in DB recruiting is pretty damn telling
One concern it immediately raises for me is that they're not feeling too good about the db room, specifically the corners, behind Gordon and McDuffie. I read somewhere earlier that Elijah Jackson and Powell were the guys standing out behind the starters. That caused me to raise an eyebrow, now this offer increases my suspicions about what that means.
I haven't watched so I don't even know, but I assume he's a corner.
There's an assumption that there is talent already on hand to maintain or even improve the overall level of play at UW for a couple of years before the shit recruiting becomes apparent. Going after JC guys, whether they're WSU/Arizona caliber guys or not, is a sign that the staff isn't so confident. -
I think it’s a combination of reasonschuck said:
Telling of what? I mean, I probably know most of what you'd say, but am curious for your full take.Tequilla said:Not watching the video at this point …
But having to go the JuCo route in DB recruiting is pretty damn telling
One concern it immediately raises for me is that they're not feeling too good about the db room, specifically the corners, behind Gordon and McDuffie. I read somewhere earlier that Elijah Jackson and Powell were the guys standing out behind the starters. That caused me to raise an eyebrow, now this offer increases my suspicions about what that means.
I haven't watched so I don't even know, but I assume he's a corner.
Missing out at a staggering level of your targets has you dipping further and further to find someone to say yes … we got a guy for LAST YEAR’s class this summer … so this isn’t a new issue
Just reading reports you’ve heard some of the players competing for spots talking about transfers … for example, bringing in Bookie likely pushes someone back in the pecking order for playing time … tough pill to swallow when you’ve been hiding your time and honing your craft to then have the right pulled right out from under you
Finally, you get a compounding impact when you aren’t getting your top targets that those you get either need more time to develop and/or frankly aren’t good enough
By and large, UW doesn’t recruit at the JuCo level … when we do there’s a targeted reason like with Moore where it’s a local kid that we’d have taken out of HS if he would have qualified
This isn’t one of those situations … this is you have coaches that can’t recruit out of a wet paper bag -
Expecting attrition in the DB room which is why it's a JUCO DB.
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I think Terrence and whillup are just getting desperate at this point. Whatever they are selling, PSAs are not buying.chuck said:
Well duh, but offering a JC corner and whiffing on HS guys probably points to different issues. One is about the very near future, specifically next season, while the other is about a few years down the road.UDubHusky23 said:
Terrence and Whillup just went 1 for 16 on DB targets (from HS) this cycle. They are having to scavenger the juco ranks because no one from the hs ranks want to play for uschuck said:
Telling of what? I mean, I probably know most of what you'd say, but am curious for your full take.Tequilla said:Not watching the video at this point …
But having to go the JuCo route in DB recruiting is pretty damn telling
One concern it immediately raises for me is that they're not feeling too good about the db room, specifically the corners, behind Gordon and McDuffie. I read somewhere earlier that Elijah Jackson and Powell were the guys standing out behind the starters. That caused me to raise an eyebrow, now this offer increases my suspicions about what that means.
I haven't watched so I don't even know, but I assume he's a corner.
There's an assumption that there is talent already on hand to maintain or even improve the overall level of play at UW for a couple of years before the shit recruiting becomes apparent. Going after JC guys, whether they're WSU/Arizona caliber guys or not, is a sign that the staff isn't so confident.
The juco and transfer portal cannot be sustainable long term as the margin of error gets that much smaller due to it alienating younger players and not having a lot of time of the juco and transfer guys to get them up to speed or develop them.
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Smith and Asa have been absent from camp. I wouldn't be surprised if either or both of them leftsonics1993 said:Expecting attrition in the DB room which is why it's a JUCO DB.
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I'm hearing that Asa is offended by this bored. Allegedlybananasnblondes said:
Smith and Asa have been absent from camp. I wouldn't be surprised if either or both of them leftsonics1993 said:Expecting attrition in the DB room which is why it's a JUCO DB.
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Is asa hurt? I would laugh if he ended up at notre dame lolbananasnblondes said:
Smith and Asa have been absent from camp. I wouldn't be surprised if either or both of them leftsonics1993 said:Expecting attrition in the DB room which is why it's a JUCO DB.
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Seems likely. Smith was a huge reach to begin with.. Pretty obvious that Turner had no hold at all on a starting spot going into this camp. They want Irvin and Hampton out there. I'm glad. Cook and Williams are pretty solid backups with tons of game experience. Asa really is no loss unless you believe he grew a penis in the offseason.bananasnblondes said:
Smith and Asa have been absent from camp. I wouldn't be surprised if either or both of them leftsonics1993 said:Expecting attrition in the DB room which is why it's a JUCO DB.
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Scott went to Liberty in NV for a couple years
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Why can't he admit that he was wrong and that Will Harris sucks? I already admitted I was wrong about him; it's not a big deal.insinceredawg said:
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“Beyond blessed to be offered by the ducks.”Neighbor2972 said:Scott went to Liberty in NV for a couple years
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You obviously don’t have the pressure they feel to bat 1000. Just not fair to compare.sonics1993 said:
Why can't he admit that he was wrong and that Will Harris sucks? I already admitted I was wrong about him; it's not a big deal.insinceredawg said: -
I watched the film. No expert but he looks pretty athletic and diagnosed a lot of routes and run plays and seemed to seek out putting the ball carrier on the ground. Looks like a playmaker at that level. Snow is a good jc so I don’t hate it but hard to say without seeing the low lights as well.
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Fatters is continuing to belittle subscribers for believing the 247 ratings are meaningful.AtomicDawg said:
You obviously don’t have the pressure they feel to bat 1000. Just not fair to compare.sonics1993 said:
Why can't he admit that he was wrong and that Will Harris sucks? I already admitted I was wrong about him; it's not a big deal.insinceredawg said: -
My ratings are the only ones that matter!!!insinceredawg said:
Fatters is continuing to belittle subscribers for believing the 247 ratings are meaningful.AtomicDawg said:
You obviously don’t have the pressure they feel to bat 1000. Just not fair to compare.sonics1993 said:
Why can't he admit that he was wrong and that Will Harris sucks? I already admitted I was wrong about him; it's not a big deal.insinceredawg said: -
You mean the rankings for the company that provides him his paycheck?insinceredawg said:
Fatters is continuing to belittle subscribers for believing the 247 ratings are meaningful.AtomicDawg said:
You obviously don’t have the pressure they feel to bat 1000. Just not fair to compare.sonics1993 said:
Why can't he admit that he was wrong and that Will Harris sucks? I already admitted I was wrong about him; it's not a big deal.insinceredawg said: -
He's not wronginsinceredawg said:
Fatters is continuing to belittle subscribers for believing the 247 ratings are meaningful.AtomicDawg said:
You obviously don’t have the pressure they feel to bat 1000. Just not fair to compare.sonics1993 said:
Why can't he admit that he was wrong and that Will Harris sucks? I already admitted I was wrong about him; it's not a big deal.insinceredawg said: -
Someone needs to tell him batting .810 isn’t bad eitherAtomicDawg said:
You obviously don’t have the pressure they feel to bat 1000. Just not fair to compare.sonics1993 said:
Why can't he admit that he was wrong and that Will Harris sucks? I already admitted I was wrong about him; it's not a big deal.insinceredawg said: -
JoeEDangerously said:
Someone needs to tell him battingAtomicDawg said:
You obviously don’t have the pressure they feel to bat 1000. Just not fair to compare.sonics1993 said:
Why can't he admit that he was wrong and that Will Harris sucks? I already admitted I was wrong about him; it's not a big deal.insinceredawg said:.810.081 isn’t bad either -
Yes, those rankings. The DM mods' loyalty is to Lake and Jen, not their corporate overlords. They are echoing the same bullshit that Lake has to the media.Tequilla said:
You mean the rankings for the company that provides him his paycheck?insinceredawg said:
Fatters is continuing to belittle subscribers for believing the 247 ratings are meaningful.AtomicDawg said:
You obviously don’t have the pressure they feel to bat 1000. Just not fair to compare.sonics1993 said:
Why can't he admit that he was wrong and that Will Harris sucks? I already admitted I was wrong about him; it's not a big deal.insinceredawg said:
After 2020 class
Lake: We have the #1 class in the Pac12 and we dominate the west!
After 2021 class
Lake: You guys always rank us like 15th in the Pac12 and then all we do is put out NFL players. -
Paying attention to puppets is bad business
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247 works for them!insinceredawg said:
Yes, those rankings. The DM mods' loyalty is to Lake and Jen, not their corporate overlords. They are echoing the same bullshit that Lake has to the media.Tequilla said:
You mean the rankings for the company that provides him his paycheck?insinceredawg said:
Fatters is continuing to belittle subscribers for believing the 247 ratings are meaningful.AtomicDawg said:
You obviously don’t have the pressure they feel to bat 1000. Just not fair to compare.sonics1993 said:
Why can't he admit that he was wrong and that Will Harris sucks? I already admitted I was wrong about him; it's not a big deal.insinceredawg said:
After 2020 class
Lake: We have the #1 class in the Pac12 and we dominate the west!
After 2021 class
Lake: You guys always rank us like 15th in the Pac12 and then all we do is put out NFL players. -
Today's out of touch moment w/ the big 3 was touting Will Harris as a up and coming coach on some top 50 list, and that people (paying customers many who follow and have forgotten more about a recruiting cycle than they know combined) b/c of that are naive and stupid.
Unless you think Harris is a PK level DC in waiting, then him being unable to recruit which is 50% of his job is a Code Red Issue no matter how they try to spin it.
Anyway, Let me tell you how this list is determined. They run a data base of every coach on staffs under target age with less than 5 years in career. From there, they look at school, how many kids have been drafted in NFL (whether they were a part of it or not), AND finally (the important part) cultivate the list so that as many schools and geographical areas as possible can be represented.
Taking the kid who had no offers a week b4 fall camp started, flipping the kid from Arizona, looking at this JC to fill a immediate need as separate one offs might be explainable, All three together tell you a story that you have to whistle past the grave not to see db recruiting is going very poorly.
Remember, doogman couldn't get off Hamden's balls for 1.5 years, until the bye week when it leaked out (essentially confirmed) that there was a change going to be made at OC.
