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Taliban enter Kabul as government on brink of collapse

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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,235 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    Less than 1/3 of what was needed according to the brass.
    The brass that Biden ignored?
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 23,727

    The brass that Biden ignored?
    You got the point. Good for you!
  • trubluetrublue Member Posts: 3,042
    HHusky said:

    The Taliban went on an offensive in March, 2020, too. Daddy and Joe want out no matter what.
    HHusky said:

    Less than 1/3 of what was needed according to the brass.
    Suddenly, you’re listening to the “brass”. Too bad Biden didn’t.

    Own it, legal beagle.

    Winning another argument as usual.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 23,727
    trublue said:

    Suddenly, you’re listening to the “brass”. Too bad Biden didn’t.

    Own it, legal beagle.

    Winning another argument as usual.
    You've obviously confused me with someone who doesn't have the same criticism. Were you ever good at this?
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 23,727
    Tequilla said:

    We know you aren’t
    don't sugar coat it

    what are you trying to say?
  • trubluetrublue Member Posts: 3,042
    But Trump . . . You sound like the type of lawyer who would write a 99-page response to criticism from a judge; attend your Show Cause Hearing and spend 2-1/2 hours arguing with the judge and telling him/her how they are wrong.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 23,727
    trublue said:

    But Trump . . . You sound like the type of lawyer who would write a 99-page response to criticism from a judge; attend your Show Cause Hearing and spend 2-1/2 hours arguing with the judge and telling him/her how they are wrong.

    As between us, only you are trying to ignore the bipartisan nature of this complete fail. I've got criticisms of all four administrations that presided over this thing. Fair and Balanced
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 20,088
    HHusky said:

    don't sugar coat it

    what are you trying to say?
    I rarely read a single comment from you where you aren’t playing the party line and are instead calling a spade a spade

    There’s no way to sugar coat Biden’s comments exactly 1 week ago versus what’s happening today … regardless of party it’s epically bad
  • DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,008 Founders Club
    Elections matter.

    Stolen elections have consequences.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 23,727
    edited August 2021
    Tequilla said:

    I rarely read a single comment from you where you aren’t playing the party line and are instead calling a spade a spade

    There’s no way to sugar coat Biden’s comments exactly 1 week ago versus what’s happening today … regardless of party it’s epically bad
    I already signaled my agreement with you about Joe's comments.

    I was on the old Woodshed when some of the cast of characters here would shriek about some detainee or another who had returned to the battlefield after release. Yet, I haven't once seen ANYONE here remark on the fact that Daddy's deal released 5,000 Taliban fighters from custody. I agree with you that Joe looks bad on this. But I don't think it's me who's failing to call a spade a spade.

    Anyway, you and I agree this mess isn't making anyone involved look good.
  • trubluetrublue Member Posts: 3,042
    HHusky said:

    As between us, only you are trying to ignore the bipartisan nature of this complete fail. I've got criticisms of all four administrations that presided over this thing. Fair and Balanced
    I understand the bipartisan nature of the failure in Afghanistan.

    $2T spent

    352,000 Afghan security forces trained

    2,000 Americans KIA

    The failure to evacuate American diplomats and other U.S.personnel; and the 18,000 interpreters (and their families) prior to the withdrawal of U.S. troops has been an epic failure, an embarrassment and a national humiliation. The buck stops with Biden.

    The Administration figured the Afghani Government would last 30-90 days, not 30-90 hours.

    Failure of intelligence?

  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 23,727

    Elections matter.

    Stolen elections have consequences.

    Belief in this evidence free notion of a stolen election should be embarrassing to you. Seriously.
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 20,088
    HHusky said:

    I already signaled my agreement with you about Joe's comments.

    I was on the old Woodshed when some of the cast of characters here would shriek about some detainee or another who had returned to the battlefield after release. Yet, I haven't once seen ANYONE here remark on the fact that Daddy's deal released 5,000 Taliban fighters from custody. I agree with you that Joe looks bad on this. But I don't think it's me who's failing to call a spade a spade.

    Anyway, you and I agree this mess isn't making anyone involved look good.
    I self admittedly don’t follow this type of stuff every single day into details

    My understanding on what Trump agreed to in the releases was a set of conditions that if violated would hold consequences …

    That said, I personally think it’s bad policy for the US Government to release prisoners barring special circumstances … this probably wouldn’t qualify

    People can wax or complain about Trump as a President …

    Biden’s a disaster and anybody that didn’t think he would be was fooling themselves …

    But does it even matter anymore? What % of the voting population actually can call it like they see it?
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 23,727
    trublue said:

    I understand the bipartisan nature of the failure in Afghanistan.

    $2T spent

    352,000 Afghan security forces trained

    2,000 Americans KIA

    The failure to evacuate American diplomats and other U.S.personnel; and the 18,000 interpreters (and their families) prior to the withdrawal of U.S. troops has been an epic failure, an embarrassment and a national humiliation. The buck stops with Biden.

    The Administration figured the Afghani Government would last 30-90 days, not 30-90 hours.

    Failure of intelligence?

    I would say almost certainly a failure of intelligence. Which is its own issue that needs addressing now.
  • DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,008 Founders Club
    When you announce four months ahead of time exactly when you're leaving you give the enemy four months to plan and prepare.
  • trubluetrublue Member Posts: 3,042
    Afghan Interpreters Left Behind Despite Biden Administration’s Relocation Promise.

    Shameful . . .
  • trubluetrublue Member Posts: 3,042
    HHusky said:

    I would say almost certainly a failure of intelligence. Which is its own issue that needs addressing now.
    How?

    James Clapper, former CIA Director under Obama, denied on CNN today that it was a failure of intelligence.
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