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How long of a leash will Jimmy get?

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  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919
    thechatch said:

    For reference, since Jimmy….like Helfrich…is following a very successful coach in Chris Petersen:

    - 2013 11-2 PAC12n Champion Alamo Bowl W

    - 2014 13-2 PAC12 Champion Rose Bowl W NCG appearance

    - 2015 9-4 Alamo Bowl L

    - 2016 4-8 Helfrich Fired

    False equivalency.


    Chip had that program way above what Pete ever had UW at.
  • DawgOfTheAges
    DawgOfTheAges Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,798 Founders Club
    sark could pull in some studs but had holes a mile wide in his team layering, and could not recruit offensive lineman to save his life.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 69,771 Founders Club

    Sark whiffed too

    And sucked

    Jimmy will be DC at Bama in 2 years then get the head job at Auburn

    Cook it?
  • godawgst
    godawgst Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,606 Swaye's Wigwam
    Helfrich's last year and epically bad defense made it easy (w/ 70-21 being the nail) for Oregon to pull the pin.

    I also think they are much more serious about being a CFB school then we are.

    UW is on the west side of Washington State AND specifically in Seattle.

    Lake's leash is very very long.

    It Ty got 4 years, Jimmy gets 6 minimum.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,431 Founders Club
    godawgst said:


    I also think they are much more serious about being a CFB school then we are.

    I mean, what else can they be serious about?

    Being the best school in Oregon? That was never going to happen and Phil can't make it happen before he dies.

    Being the best football program in Oregon?

    Phil tried that but they're still 0fer and even with the new rules they're pumping a player who couldn't do shit against Beavlet and Cal when it counted.

  • godawgst
    godawgst Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,606 Swaye's Wigwam
    haie said:

    godawgst said:


    I also think they are much more serious about being a CFB school then we are.

    I mean, what else can they be serious about?

    Being the best school in Oregon? That was never going to happen and Phil can't make it happen before he dies.

    Being the best football program in Oregon?

    Phil tried that but they're still 0fer and even with the new rules they're pumping a player who couldn't do shit against Beavlet and Cal when it counted.

    With Phil/Nike and now NIL Oregon is one of the handful of schools that can put packages together that will put them over the top when it comes to the JTT's of the world committing to them.

    At Oregon, the school and AD will celebrate and trumpet that advantage.

    Here (even if we had a whale or group of businesses/donors that could/would put something like that together) it will be hush hush so as not to rangle the masses so to speak.

    This is why the Athletic Article about which is the better HC job between UW was so interesting to me. I don't think it's clear cut our way at all, and if your a coach who looks at the job from strictly a mercenary standpoint (there to win first last middle w/ lip service to the kids, school experience, etc etc ie Saban) Eugene is the place to go.
  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,429 Founders Club
    edited July 2021
    haie said:

    godawgst said:


    I also think they are much more serious about being a CFB school then we are.

    I mean, what else can they be serious about?

    Being the best school in Oregon? That was never going to happen and Phil can't make it happen before he dies.

    Being the best football program in Oregon?

    Phil tried that but they're still 0fer and even with the new rules they're pumping a player who couldn't do shit against Beavlet and Cal when it counted.

    UO at best is 2nd in the state of Oregon (I go off the actual scoreboard)

    At best….haven’t seen Portland State play so am withholding judgment
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,431 Founders Club
    godawgst said:

    haie said:

    godawgst said:


    I also think they are much more serious about being a CFB school then we are.

    I mean, what else can they be serious about?

    Being the best school in Oregon? That was never going to happen and Phil can't make it happen before he dies.

    Being the best football program in Oregon?

    Phil tried that but they're still 0fer and even with the new rules they're pumping a player who couldn't do shit against Beavlet and Cal when it counted.

    With Phil/Nike and now NIL Oregon is one of the handful of schools that can put packages together that will put them over the top when it comes to the JTT's of the world committing to them.

    At Oregon, the school and AD will celebrate and trumpet that advantage.

    Here (even if we had a whale or group of businesses/donors that could/would put something like that together) it will be hush hush so as not to rangle the masses so to speak.

    This is why the Athletic Article about which is the better HC job between UW was so interesting to me. I don't think it's clear cut our way at all, and if your a coach who looks at the job from strictly a mercenary standpoint (there to win first last middle w/ lip service to the kids, school experience, etc etc ie Saban) Eugene is the place to go.
    Despite everything you posted, a bunch of ADs and coaches still think Washington is a better job.

    I think it's *kind of* close with Phil/Nike, but there's a lot of reasons to shirk shoe brands and mediocre education and faking utopia in fucking Eugene, Fucking Oregon.

    So there's a lot more to it than your argument, *with respect*
  • DawgOfTheAges
    DawgOfTheAges Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,798 Founders Club
    I think it totally depends on the business model tht is in play at both schools. NIL and the rising perception of cash flow for students is a real game changer... above board and obvious cash flow for students is now a reality. Think about being 18 and getting 100,000 a year to play for a school that is a player on the national scene while you chase the dream of good looking girls, parties and the progression of becoming a pro player.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,431 Founders Club

    I think it totally depends on the business model tht is in play at both schools. NIL and the rising perception of cash flow for students is a real game changer... above board and obvious cash flow for students is now a reality. Think about being 18 and getting 100,000 a year to play for a school that is a player on the national scene while you chase the dream of good looking girls, parties and the progression of becoming a pro player.

    My hope is that it balances everything out more in the long run.

    It's financially irresponsible for Alabama and anyone else to give all their players the same benefits, when guys don't work out at a high clip.

    Even cuoglet and beavlet should be able attract some player who can be the focus and get more going there than getting some base package at a larger school.