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    RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,300
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    animate said:

    Hey, where's guiliani when you need him? That unfaithful bastard!

    Shut the fuck you dumb bastard. You were all in on Trump getting indicted.
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 31,036
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    HHusky said:

    Bob_C said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Now do Biden's brother

    Who also said the Big Guy gets his cut

    Let's investigate and look at those records.

    Or you can just keep embarrassing yourself by sucking Joe's dick

    But you're not investigating anything. You're on a message board claiming that some second and third hand hearsay proves something, unspecified, about the President.
    Maybe you missed Tony Bobulinski who also said Joe was in on it. He was on TV and willing to testify.
    Isn’t TV still a thing? He can talk about it now if he wants to as well.

    Aren’t Mr. Bobulinski’s claims newsworthy?
    He did a lengthy interview on fox. I doubt Rachel played it as that's where you get your news.
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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,276
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    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Bob_C said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Now do Biden's brother

    Who also said the Big Guy gets his cut

    Let's investigate and look at those records.

    Or you can just keep embarrassing yourself by sucking Joe's dick

    But you're not investigating anything. You're on a message board claiming that some second and third hand hearsay proves something, unspecified, about the President.
    Maybe you missed Tony Bobulinski who also said Joe was in on it. He was on TV and willing to testify.
    Isn’t TV still a thing? He can talk about it now if he wants to as well.

    Aren’t Mr. Bobulinski’s claims newsworthy?
    He did a lengthy interview on fox. I doubt Rachel played it as that's where you get your news.
    Sounds like he was supposed to have a lot of documents to prove his case. Weird he just disappeared, ain’t it?
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 31,036
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    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Bob_C said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Now do Biden's brother

    Who also said the Big Guy gets his cut

    Let's investigate and look at those records.

    Or you can just keep embarrassing yourself by sucking Joe's dick

    But you're not investigating anything. You're on a message board claiming that some second and third hand hearsay proves something, unspecified, about the President.
    Maybe you missed Tony Bobulinski who also said Joe was in on it. He was on TV and willing to testify.
    Isn’t TV still a thing? He can talk about it now if he wants to as well.

    Aren’t Mr. Bobulinski’s claims newsworthy?
    He did a lengthy interview on fox. I doubt Rachel played it as that's where you get your news.
    Sounds like he was supposed to have a lot of documents to prove his case. Weird he just disappeared, ain’t it?
    Now you're all knowing in this instance? Make up your mind.
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    GoduckiesGoduckies Member Posts: 5,388
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    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-organization-cfo-allen-weisselberg-to-plead-not-guilty-to-tax-charges/ar-AALFxFm?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531

    Tax cases have been brought against New York hotel magnates before.

    In 1988, real estate investor Harry Helmsley and his wife Leona were convicted of evading $1.2 million in federal taxes. They had billed Helmsley businesses for personal expenses ranging from her underwear to $3 million worth of renovations to their Connecticut estate. At its peak, their real estate empire was worth an estimated $5 billion.

    During the Helmsley trial, a former housekeeper testified that she heard Leona Helmsley say: “We don’t pay taxes. Only the little people pay taxes.” Helmsley denied having said it, but the comment stuck.

    The indictment was brought by then-Manhattan U.S. Attorney Rudy Giuliani. Then-businessman Trump blamed Leona Helmsley — who'd been dubbed "the queen of mean" — for her husband's troubles in a letter that was obtained by the New York Post.

    "Without the veil of Harry Helmsley, you would be a non-entity. You would not be able to randomly fire and abuse people in order to make yourself happy," Trump wrote of Leona Helmsley. "What has happened to the legendary Helmsley reputation is indeed sad."


    Trump organization is accused of not paying taxes on $1.1 million over 15 years. So maybe $350k in tax. That’s a rounding error. Hardly something a multi billion dollar company would devise a “tax scheme” over. If they don’t thi k they owe they tax, they court can decide. Otherwise it’s political theater.
    Only $350,000 tax fraud superiority guy.

    Same "rounding error" every year for 16 straight years. And it's not only federal income taxes either.
    Why isn't Hunter in jail? And Cho Bai Den. I know that the equal application of the law isn't something you think applies to dems or BLM or antifa.
    Sounds to me like Hunter may end up doing time. Being his dad is not a crime though.
    Taking money from Hunter as the Big Guy's take is.
    If you girls would finally provide any evidence that this ever occurred, you'd really be onto something.
    Let's review his crap with a fine toothed comb and see what lies...
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    MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,781
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    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-organization-cfo-allen-weisselberg-to-plead-not-guilty-to-tax-charges/ar-AALFxFm?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531

    Tax cases have been brought against New York hotel magnates before.

    In 1988, real estate investor Harry Helmsley and his wife Leona were convicted of evading $1.2 million in federal taxes. They had billed Helmsley businesses for personal expenses ranging from her underwear to $3 million worth of renovations to their Connecticut estate. At its peak, their real estate empire was worth an estimated $5 billion.

    During the Helmsley trial, a former housekeeper testified that she heard Leona Helmsley say: “We don’t pay taxes. Only the little people pay taxes.” Helmsley denied having said it, but the comment stuck.

    The indictment was brought by then-Manhattan U.S. Attorney Rudy Giuliani. Then-businessman Trump blamed Leona Helmsley — who'd been dubbed "the queen of mean" — for her husband's troubles in a letter that was obtained by the New York Post.

    "Without the veil of Harry Helmsley, you would be a non-entity. You would not be able to randomly fire and abuse people in order to make yourself happy," Trump wrote of Leona Helmsley. "What has happened to the legendary Helmsley reputation is indeed sad."


    Trump organization is accused of not paying taxes on $1.1 million over 15 years. So maybe $350k in tax. That’s a rounding error. Hardly something a multi billion dollar company would devise a “tax scheme” over. If they don’t thi k they owe they tax, they court can decide. Otherwise it’s political theater.
    Only $350,000 tax fraud superiority guy.

    Same "rounding error" every year for 16 straight years. And it's not only federal income taxes either.
    Why isn't Hunter in jail? And Cho Bai Den. I know that the equal application of the law isn't something you think applies to dems or BLM or antifa.
    Sounds to me like Hunter may end up doing time. Being his dad is not a crime though.
    Taking money from Hunter as the Big Guy's take is.
    If you girls would finally provide any evidence that this ever occurred, you'd really be onto something.
    Maybe spending $30-$40 million and 3 years on a special investigation might get to the bottom of it.
    So no evidence. Proud of your honesty!
    Same as with Trump.
    Try to keep up with your team's narrative. Eric is complaining they looked at 3.5 million documents.
    $30 million and 3.5 million documents in the Mueller probe and they game up with a goose egg. Now do the Bidens…
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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 41,952
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    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-organization-cfo-allen-weisselberg-to-plead-not-guilty-to-tax-charges/ar-AALFxFm?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531

    Tax cases have been brought against New York hotel magnates before.

    In 1988, real estate investor Harry Helmsley and his wife Leona were convicted of evading $1.2 million in federal taxes. They had billed Helmsley businesses for personal expenses ranging from her underwear to $3 million worth of renovations to their Connecticut estate. At its peak, their real estate empire was worth an estimated $5 billion.

    During the Helmsley trial, a former housekeeper testified that she heard Leona Helmsley say: “We don’t pay taxes. Only the little people pay taxes.” Helmsley denied having said it, but the comment stuck.

    The indictment was brought by then-Manhattan U.S. Attorney Rudy Giuliani. Then-businessman Trump blamed Leona Helmsley — who'd been dubbed "the queen of mean" — for her husband's troubles in a letter that was obtained by the New York Post.

    "Without the veil of Harry Helmsley, you would be a non-entity. You would not be able to randomly fire and abuse people in order to make yourself happy," Trump wrote of Leona Helmsley. "What has happened to the legendary Helmsley reputation is indeed sad."


    Trump organization is accused of not paying taxes on $1.1 million over 15 years. So maybe $350k in tax. That’s a rounding error. Hardly something a multi billion dollar company would devise a “tax scheme” over. If they don’t thi k they owe they tax, they court can decide. Otherwise it’s political theater.
    Only $350,000 tax fraud superiority guy.

    Same "rounding error" every year for 16 straight years. And it's not only federal income taxes either.
    Why isn't Hunter in jail? And Cho Bai Den. I know that the equal application of the law isn't something you think applies to dems or BLM or antifa.
    Sounds to me like Hunter may end up doing time. Being his dad is not a crime though.
    Taking money from Hunter as the Big Guy's take is.
    If you girls would finally provide any evidence that this ever occurred, you'd really be onto something.
    Maybe spending $30-$40 million and 3 years on a special investigation might get to the bottom of it.
    So no evidence. Proud of your honesty!
    Same as with Trump.
    Try to keep up with your team's narrative. Eric is complaining they looked at 3.5 million documents.
    $30 million and 3.5 million documents in the Mueller probe and they game up with a goose egg. Now do the Bidens…
    Cho Bai Den must have been getting his 10% off the top of all Trump investigations, too.

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    animateanimate Member Posts: 4,231
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    RoadTrip said:

    animate said:

    Hey, where's guiliani when you need him? That unfaithful bastard!

    Shut the fuck you dumb bastard. You were all in on Trump getting indicted.
    lol, he's on his way it looks like.

    popcorn aside, the reality is this:

    trump's side is shoveling the idea that these are "fringe benefits", they've even admitted that it all happened but are minimizing it saying "everyone does it ... why don't you guys go after the bigger fish?" and "hunter biden needs his weiner slapped too!" ...

    problem is: this isn't a "fringe benefit" like a laptop or a cel phone ... reports is that the trump org specifically had 2 sets of books where they figured out the amount for private school here etc and taking it off a senior execs salary in order to reduce the taxable amount.

    That's tax evasion.

    if the feds have this evidence and info it could mean serious trouble.

    so, you guys can love or hate trump (I just wanna see ivanka do a porno scene) but don't obfuscate the concepts.

    by the way, most of you guys have no clue what's happening ... because politics and media in this country is so partisan and tribal that if you follow one side without making an educated effort to expose yourself to counter perspectives you become an ignorant meme.

    as trump says "Sad!"
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    MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,781
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    animate said:

    RoadTrip said:

    animate said:

    Hey, where's guiliani when you need him? That unfaithful bastard!

    Shut the fuck you dumb bastard. You were all in on Trump getting indicted.
    lol, he's on his way it looks like.

    popcorn aside, the reality is this:

    trump's side is shoveling the idea that these are "fringe benefits", they've even admitted that it all happened but are minimizing it saying "everyone does it ... why don't you guys go after the bigger fish?" and "hunter biden needs his weiner slapped too!" ...

    problem is: this isn't a "fringe benefit" like a laptop or a cel phone ... reports is that the trump org specifically had 2 sets of books where they figured out the amount for private school here etc and taking it off a senior execs salary in order to reduce the taxable amount.

    That's tax evasion.

    if the feds have this evidence and info it could mean serious trouble.

    so, you guys can love or hate trump (I just wanna see ivanka do a porno scene) but don't obfuscate the concepts.

    by the way, most of you guys have no clue what's happening ... because politics and media in this country is so partisan and tribal that if you follow one side without making an educated effort to expose yourself to counter perspectives you become an ignorant meme.

    as trump says "Sad!"
    You act like it’s Bernie Madoff type of fraud. If this were a normal citizen, they would likely be fined and maybe probation. That’s it. Look at precedent, it’s out there. I know the left desperately wants it to be much more. It isn’t. Maybe another $10 million and a couple of year long investigation will really find something.

    We need to hear from @deankirklanddawg. He’s been though the federal white collar crime process.
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    WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 14,023
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    animate said:

    RoadTrip said:

    animate said:

    Hey, where's guiliani when you need him? That unfaithful bastard!

    Shut the fuck you dumb bastard. You were all in on Trump getting indicted.
    lol, he's on his way it looks like.

    popcorn aside, the reality is this:

    trump's side is shoveling the idea that these are "fringe benefits", they've even admitted that it all happened but are minimizing it saying "everyone does it ... why don't you guys go after the bigger fish?" and "hunter biden needs his weiner slapped too!" ...

    problem is: this isn't a "fringe benefit" like a laptop or a cel phone ... reports is that the trump org specifically had 2 sets of books where they figured out the amount for private school here etc and taking it off a senior execs salary in order to reduce the taxable amount.

    That's tax evasion.

    if the feds have this evidence and info it could mean serious trouble.

    so, you guys can love or hate trump (I just wanna see ivanka do a porno scene) but don't obfuscate the concepts.

    by the way, most of you guys have no clue what's happening ... because politics and media in this country is so partisan and tribal that if you follow one side without making an educated effort to expose yourself to counter perspectives you become an ignorant meme.

    as trump says "Sad!"
    You act like it’s Bernie Madoff type of fraud. If this were a normal citizen, they would likely be fined and maybe probation. That’s it. Look at precedent, it’s out there. I know the left desperately wants it to be much more. It isn’t. Maybe another $10 million and a couple of year long investigation will really find something.

    We need to hear from @deankirklanddawg. He’s been though the federal white collar crime process.
    This is not the equal administration of justice. Just like the obama administration decided not to prosecute Manafort because all the dems were also not reporting as foreign lobbyists (look at Hunter Biden). Then went it became time to create some fake crimes against Trump they went back and charged Manafort for leverage. The Trump org was specifically targeted. Any Fortune 500 company has more than $350k in unpaid taxes for executive comp and fringe benefit plans. Toss in a quick business discussion in Atlanta and write-off a bunch on a trip to the Masters.
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    animateanimate Member Posts: 4,231
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    animate said:

    RoadTrip said:

    animate said:

    Hey, where's guiliani when you need him? That unfaithful bastard!

    Shut the fuck you dumb bastard. You were all in on Trump getting indicted.
    lol, he's on his way it looks like.

    popcorn aside, the reality is this:

    trump's side is shoveling the idea that these are "fringe benefits", they've even admitted that it all happened but are minimizing it saying "everyone does it ... why don't you guys go after the bigger fish?" and "hunter biden needs his weiner slapped too!" ...

    problem is: this isn't a "fringe benefit" like a laptop or a cel phone ... reports is that the trump org specifically had 2 sets of books where they figured out the amount for private school here etc and taking it off a senior execs salary in order to reduce the taxable amount.

    That's tax evasion.

    if the feds have this evidence and info it could mean serious trouble.

    so, you guys can love or hate trump (I just wanna see ivanka do a porno scene) but don't obfuscate the concepts.

    by the way, most of you guys have no clue what's happening ... because politics and media in this country is so partisan and tribal that if you follow one side without making an educated effort to expose yourself to counter perspectives you become an ignorant meme.

    as trump says "Sad!"
    You act like it’s Bernie Madoff type of fraud. If this were a normal citizen, they would likely be fined and maybe probation. That’s it. Look at precedent, it’s out there. I know the left desperately wants it to be much more. It isn’t. Maybe another $10 million and a couple of year long investigation will really find something.

    We need to hear from @deankirklanddawg. He’s been though the federal white collar crime process.
    it's not "fraud" it's tax evasion. Did Madoff pay his taxes?

    Bernie got hit up with serious, serious securities fraud.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Madoff

    Again, don't obfuscate the concepts.

    Regardless if anyone thinks the "left" has a huge hard-on for trump and his org and is willing to go the extra mile etc ... it's tax evasion. If the feds have the goods they have a case ... now it's just a matter of how far they are willing to go. If they don't have a case or if it's weak they may just elect to let it go for another day.

    I guess i'll have to update you guys as time goes along because you don't get any inkling of any of this from Fox/OAN/Newmax ... seriously, all this is happening and you don't get a peep from the former sites. Front page "news" (because Fox admitted it's not news but entertainment) runs stuff like "heat wave dries up local recreation properties in Idaho" and "racebannon's wiener fell off" and "mikedamone's Ramone's t shirt collection has been stolen ..." ... but this is the tug so what do I expect.

    Informed opinions? hell no.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,728
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    I like to be lectured by a moron who thinks this issue matters while ignoring the drooling idiot he voted for

    And follows media that said Hunter's laptop is Russian disinformation

    Really hurts being called stupid by a bright guy like that

    I'll heal
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    WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 14,023
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    Ditto, like the dazzler's concern about honest elections the left has no interest in the equal administration of justice.
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    animate said:

    RoadTrip said:

    animate said:

    Hey, where's guiliani when you need him? That unfaithful bastard!

    Shut the fuck you dumb bastard. You were all in on Trump getting indicted.
    lol, he's on his way it looks like.

    popcorn aside, the reality is this:

    trump's side is shoveling the idea that these are "fringe benefits", they've even admitted that it all happened but are minimizing it saying "everyone does it ... why don't you guys go after the bigger fish?" and "hunter biden needs his weiner slapped too!" ...

    problem is: this isn't a "fringe benefit" like a laptop or a cel phone ... reports is that the trump org specifically had 2 sets of books where they figured out the amount for private school here etc and taking it off a senior execs salary in order to reduce the taxable amount.

    That's tax evasion.

    if the feds have this evidence and info it could mean serious trouble.

    so, you guys can love or hate trump (I just wanna see ivanka do a porno scene) but don't obfuscate the concepts.

    by the way, most of you guys have no clue what's happening ... because politics and media in this country is so partisan and tribal that if you follow one side without making an educated effort to expose yourself to counter perspectives you become an ignorant meme.

    as trump says "Sad!"
    No one is going through the trouble of two sets of books to evade the numbers being thrown out there.
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    animateanimate Member Posts: 4,231
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    I like to be lectured by a moron who thinks this issue matters while ignoring the drooling idiot he voted for

    And follows media that said Hunter's laptop is Russian disinformation

    Really hurts being called stupid by a bright guy like that

    I'll heal

    Your wiener won't heal race. Condolences ...
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    MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,781
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    animate said:

    animate said:

    RoadTrip said:

    animate said:

    Hey, where's guiliani when you need him? That unfaithful bastard!

    Shut the fuck you dumb bastard. You were all in on Trump getting indicted.
    lol, he's on his way it looks like.

    popcorn aside, the reality is this:

    trump's side is shoveling the idea that these are "fringe benefits", they've even admitted that it all happened but are minimizing it saying "everyone does it ... why don't you guys go after the bigger fish?" and "hunter biden needs his weiner slapped too!" ...

    problem is: this isn't a "fringe benefit" like a laptop or a cel phone ... reports is that the trump org specifically had 2 sets of books where they figured out the amount for private school here etc and taking it off a senior execs salary in order to reduce the taxable amount.

    That's tax evasion.

    if the feds have this evidence and info it could mean serious trouble.

    so, you guys can love or hate trump (I just wanna see ivanka do a porno scene) but don't obfuscate the concepts.

    by the way, most of you guys have no clue what's happening ... because politics and media in this country is so partisan and tribal that if you follow one side without making an educated effort to expose yourself to counter perspectives you become an ignorant meme.

    as trump says "Sad!"
    You act like it’s Bernie Madoff type of fraud. If this were a normal citizen, they would likely be fined and maybe probation. That’s it. Look at precedent, it’s out there. I know the left desperately wants it to be much more. It isn’t. Maybe another $10 million and a couple of year long investigation will really find something.

    We need to hear from @deankirklanddawg. He’s been though the federal white collar crime process.
    it's not "fraud" it's tax evasion. Did Madoff pay his taxes?

    Bernie got hit up with serious, serious securities fraud.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Madoff

    Again, don't obfuscate the concepts.

    Regardless if anyone thinks the "left" has a huge hard-on for trump and his org and is willing to go the extra mile etc ... it's tax evasion. If the feds have the goods they have a case ... now it's just a matter of how far they are willing to go. If they don't have a case or if it's weak they may just elect to let it go for another day.

    I guess i'll have to update you guys as time goes along because you don't get any inkling of any of this from Fox/OAN/Newmax ... seriously, all this is happening and you don't get a peep from the former sites. Front page "news" (because Fox admitted it's not news but entertainment) runs stuff like "heat wave dries up local recreation properties in Idaho" and "racebannon's wiener fell off" and "mikedamone's Ramone's t shirt collection has been stolen ..." ... but this is the tug so what do I expect.

    Informed opinions? hell no.
    JFC you’re stupid. I didn’t say it was fraud. I was comparing seriousness of crimes. Madoff basically got life. As much as you want someone connected to Trump or Trump himself in prison prison for tax evasion for 25 years, it’s not going to be for $350k over 15 years. Sorry to interrupt your hysteria.

    The goofball from the Jersey shore did 8 months for not paying on $9 million. So he owed $3 million. He wouldn’t have gotten any time if he wouldn’t have fought it. Any citizen who did the same who is not connected with Trump isn’t going to jail over this.
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    MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,781
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    animate said:

    I like to be lectured by a moron who thinks this issue matters while ignoring the drooling idiot he voted for

    And follows media that said Hunter's laptop is Russian disinformation

    Really hurts being called stupid by a bright guy like that

    I'll heal

    Your wiener won't heal race. Condolences ...
    Are you 8 years old. That’s a dumb post even for here.
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    animate said:

    RoadTrip said:

    animate said:

    Hey, where's guiliani when you need him? That unfaithful bastard!

    Shut the fuck you dumb bastard. You were all in on Trump getting indicted.
    lol, he's on his way it looks like.

    popcorn aside, the reality is this:

    trump's side is shoveling the idea that these are "fringe benefits", they've even admitted that it all happened but are minimizing it saying "everyone does it ... why don't you guys go after the bigger fish?" and "hunter biden needs his weiner slapped too!" ...

    problem is: this isn't a "fringe benefit" like a laptop or a cel phone ... reports is that the trump org specifically had 2 sets of books where they figured out the amount for private school here etc and taking it off a senior execs salary in order to reduce the taxable amount.

    That's tax evasion.

    if the feds have this evidence and info it could mean serious trouble.

    so, you guys can love or hate trump (I just wanna see ivanka do a porno scene) but don't obfuscate the concepts.

    by the way, most of you guys have no clue what's happening ... because politics and media in this country is so partisan and tribal that if you follow one side without making an educated effort to expose yourself to counter perspectives you become an ignorant meme.

    as trump says "Sad!"
    ‘Shroom reality
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 31,036
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    People that get audited and found they owe back taxes normally just pay them plus a penalty. They don't arrest them. This is NAZI KGB shit again. The BidenBros. cheer!
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