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Crypto according to Swaye

Swaye
Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
edited May 2022 in Tug Tavern
I know absolutely nothing about crypto or crypto markets. That said, I do know when everyone you know, who generally also know nothing about anything, are buying any investment asset because "everyone is doing it," it rarely ends well. Like Tech Stocks in 1999. There is probably a long term market for crypto, but I think these crazy breakneck bull market runs as everyone just pours money in is a loser of a strategy. Like the IPO Tech Game of the late 90's, this will all need a good crash and burn cleansing before coming back stronger in the future. The forest must burn to make itself healthier.

I'm keeping my money in my sock drawer. Half the people I know, most of whom know nothing about investing, have bought bitcoin in the last month. That cannot be a good thing. My 75 year old mother called yesterday to ask if she should buy Bitcoin. Put a fork in it for now.
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  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    It sounds gay imo
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club

    It sounds gay imo


  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,070
    Blu82 said:

    Swaye said:

    I know absolutely nothing about crypto or crypto markets. That said, I do know when everyone you know, who generally also know nothing about anything, are buying any investment asset because "everyone is doing it," it rarely ends well. Like Tech Stocks in 1999. There is probably a long term market for crypto, but I think these crazy breakneck bull market runs as everyone just pours money in is a loser of a strategy. Like the IPO Tech Game of the late 90's, this will all need a good crash and burn cleansing before coming back stronger in the future. The forest must burn to make itself healthier.

    I'm keeping my money in my sock drawer. Half the people I know, most of whom know nothing about investing, have bought bitcoin in the last month. That cannot be a good thing. My 75 year old mother called yesterday to ask if she should buy Bitcoin. Put a fork in it for now.

    I would not dare reach into that sock drawer.
    Good call.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,542 Founders Club
    Blu82 said:

    Swaye said:

    I know absolutely nothing about crypto or crypto markets. That said, I do know when everyone you know, who generally also know nothing about anything, are buying any investment asset because "everyone is doing it," it rarely ends well. Like Tech Stocks in 1999. There is probably a long term market for crypto, but I think these crazy breakneck bull market runs as everyone just pours money in is a loser of a strategy. Like the IPO Tech Game of the late 90's, this will all need a good crash and burn cleansing before coming back stronger in the future. The forest must burn to make itself healthier.

    I'm keeping my money in my sock drawer. Half the people I know, most of whom know nothing about investing, have bought bitcoin in the last month. That cannot be a good thing. My 75 year old mother called yesterday to ask if she should buy Bitcoin. Put a fork in it for now.

    I would not dare reach into that sock drawer.

  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937
    edited April 2021
    I know absolutely nothing about crypto but I bought 45k dogecoin at .013. I’ve made just over 10k. Better lucky than smart
  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 14,140 Swaye's Wigwam

    I know absolutely nothing about crypto but I bought 45k dogecoin at .013. I’ve made just over 10k. Better lucky than smart

    Shut up sonics.
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937

    I know absolutely nothing about crypto but I bought 45k dogecoin at .013. I’ve made just over 10k. Better lucky than smart

    Shut up sonics.
    I didn’t make my money from drugs! I made it from door dash!
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    Who the hell let btp in here
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,320 Standard Supporter
    Swaye said:

    Just read @creepycoug for the Bitcoin Bros thread so I am responding to mine. Point was brought up about taking a small position as a hedge against the USD. I can get behind that position after thinking on it a bit. I think the train has already left the station for "winning big" on Bitcoin. But, as a hedge, with a small portion of your portfolio, not a bad play. I also like @Baseman smart play to bet the market mover, not the vehicle. That seems a reasonable play no matter what happens. If it crashes people still have to pay to get out. If it doesn't, they keep buying. Wins either way.

    I stick to my guns I think the crypto market is severely juiced right now. Hedge sure. Invest in the market maker. Sure. Think you are going to get rich now at these prices with my 75 year old mother thinking of getting in? Um, unlikely.

    I own and manage a fireworks stand so I know what I am talking about.

    This is the right take and always how I have approached putting money in to crypto.
  • El_K
    El_K Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,490 Swaye's Wigwam
    I plunked down $500 on Dogecoin. That was .37 cents. Sold it at .49. Decided it wasn’t for me.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,132 Founders Club
    Warren stepped into a shitshow with this. Don't piss off the Bitcoin Bros




    Figured it belongs in a @Swaye thread
  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696

    Warren stepped into a shitshow with this. Don't piss off the Bitcoin Bros




    Figured it belongs in a @Swaye thread
    Without watching the clip and just going off the headline, she's not wrong. It's an insane amount of energy to waste on something.
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937

    Warren stepped into a shitshow with this. Don't piss off the Bitcoin Bros




    Figured it belongs in a @Swaye thread
    Without watching the clip and just going off the headline, she's not wrong. It's an insane amount of energy to waste on something.
    Twitter uses more energy to run its platform than bitcoin miners use. She’s trying to protect her banker bros. Very transparent.
  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696

    Warren stepped into a shitshow with this. Don't piss off the Bitcoin Bros




    Figured it belongs in a @Swaye thread
    Without watching the clip and just going off the headline, she's not wrong. It's an insane amount of energy to waste on something.
    Twitter uses more energy to run its platform than bitcoin miners use. She’s trying to protect her banker bros. Very transparent.



    A.) Current estimates for Bitcoin annual energy consumption puts it at about half of the combined energy consumption of every single datacenter in the world.

    B.) Elizabeth Warren protecting banker bros? That's a Ballz level hawt take.
  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,145

    Warren stepped into a shitshow with this. Don't piss off the Bitcoin Bros




    Figured it belongs in a @Swaye thread
    Without watching the clip and just going off the headline, she's not wrong. It's an insane amount of energy to waste on something.
    Twitter uses more energy to run its platform than bitcoin miners use. She’s trying to protect her banker bros. Very transparent.
    Lol wat
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,132 Founders Club
    Washington State could rule the bitcoin world. We got volcanos
  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696
    edited June 2021

    Washington State could rule the bitcoin world. We got volcanos

    It's all well and good, but for starters, that's still a tiny fraction of what Bitcoin consumes. It's also energy that could be used for something more useful than digital Beanie Babies.

    Edit: I work for a company that greenwashes the hell out of its image, makes a lot of money off wind farms and solar projects, talks sustainability 24/7, funds green projects for PR...

    ...and turned Alberta and the Niger River Delta into a couple of the worst ecological disasters in history.

    One guy tweeting about Warren being wrong about Bitcoin because of a single clean energy project means fuuuuuck all.
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937
    ntxduck said:

    Warren stepped into a shitshow with this. Don't piss off the Bitcoin Bros




    Figured it belongs in a @Swaye thread
    Without watching the clip and just going off the headline, she's not wrong. It's an insane amount of energy to waste on something.
    Twitter uses more energy to run its platform than bitcoin miners use. She’s trying to protect her banker bros. Very transparent.
    Lol wat
    USD dick sucking. Highest CPI since august 2008. High inflation. Lmao.
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937
    edited June 2021
    Bitcoin doesn’t waste energy. It’s the miner bros.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,130 Standard Supporter

    Washington State could rule the bitcoin world. We got volcanos

    Unfortunately, Rainier hasn't been cooperative and wipe Seattle off the map yet....