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Israel invades Gaza, attacks Hamas
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Exactly the problem with the historical claims. 200 years ago most of the US was Spain and France.
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Damn straight, took it from those gazpacho eater fair & squareAZDuck said:Exactly the problem with the historical claims. 200 years ago most of the US was Spain and France.
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Jefferson came up clutch with the steal of the millennium.AZDuck said:Exactly the problem with the historical claims. 200 years ago most of the US was Spain and France.
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Not really analogous.AZDuck said:Exactly the problem with the historical claims. 200 years ago most of the US was Spain and France.
1. Spain and France both have cuntries of their own
2. No one is arguing that the French culture/religion/ethnicity originated in St. Louis or the Spanish one in Los Angeles.
If you feel that there should be a Jewish state, it's in the right place. If you don't feel there should be a Jewish state at all, that's a different argument. -
Why do you hate New York?dnc said:
Not really analogous.AZDuck said:Exactly the problem with the historical claims. 200 years ago most of the US was Spain and France.
1. Spain and France both have cuntries of their own
2. No one is arguing that the French culture/religion/ethnicity originated in St. Louis or the Spanish one in Los Angeles.
If you feel that there should be a Jewish state, it's in the right place. If you don't feel there should be a Jewish state at all, that's a different argument. -
The argument that Jews deserve their own state really is just in the same class of guilt that some here call white guilt... I guess in this case it would be Goy guilt? (to borrow the pejorative word that some Jews use for non-Jews).
If you feel that there should be a Jewish state, it's in the right place. If you don't feel there should be a Jewish state at all, that's a different argument.
Why do they deserve their own state exactly? Why can't they live in a shared state that doesn't have a state religion?
Are all peoples that are victims of mass genocide entitled to their own state afterwards? Because the Jewish people certainly don't have a monopoly on being the victims of mass genocide. -
TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Why do you hate New York?dnc said:
Not really analogous.AZDuck said:Exactly the problem with the historical claims. 200 years ago most of the US was Spain and France.
1. Spain and France both have cuntries of their own
2. No one is arguing that the French culture/religion/ethnicity originated in St. Louis or the Spanish one in Los Angeles.
If you feel that there should be a Jewish state, it's in the right place. If you don't feel there should be a Jewish state at all, that's a different argument.
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AZDuck said:
This is why you should shut the fuck up when adults are talkingoregonblitzkrieg said:
Druze...aren't they that weird ass cult that George Clooney's gf belongs to?AZDuck said:Most Christians in those stats are Arab Christians, who identify as "Palestinians" typically. Maronite Christians and Druze identify as Israeli.
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Not really a straight-up analogy, my poont was that if you start digging back into the history, lots of people can claim a right to various chunks of land. Alsace and Lorraine, Danzig and Koenigsberg, Crimea and Transnistria, Trentino and Sudtirol... if you peel back the onion, they all belonged to someone different than they do now. Over and over and over again.
The only recent innovation is that it is no longer okay to enslave or murder your enemies and sow the earth with salt and convert the survivors to your way of life. -
The Kurds, the Hmong and many others...
The argument that Jews deserve their own state really is just in the same class of guilt that some here call white guilt... I guess in this case it would be Goy guilt? (to borrow the pejorative word that some Jews use for non-Jews).OZONE said:
If you feel that there should be a Jewish state, it's in the right place. If you don't feel there should be a Jewish state at all, that's a different argument.
Why do they deserve their own state exactly? Why can't they live in a shared state that doesn't have a state religion?
Are all peoples that are victims of mass genocide entitled to their own state afterwards? Because the Jewish people certainly don't have a monopoly on being the victims of mass genocide.
