Pac 12 North Craft Beer Championship
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OregonI have to vote for my #MyDuckTards in this one and have been thoroughly impressed with the Oregon craft beer options.
My favorite all time session beer style is the classic German/Czech Pils and I've never been able to find a great one by an American craft brewer (Trummer is decent, but nothing speshial). It sounds like it's hard to get the right euro fag malt on this side of the pond.
Alas, I stumbled onto the Zoiglhaus Pils from PDX and it is fantastic. Pfreim's Pils is pretty solid as well.
@haie
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OregonTuff to admit, but it's true. Both are great states for beer, though. Tough to find many places better outside of Colorado and the Northeast.
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There's a point of beer goodness where you're just sort of topped out from a quality standpoint and just market-saturating. Both states have been there for some time. Cloudburst and Fremont in Seattle, Skookum in Smokey Point, Structures and Wander in Bellingham all do things that rival anything I've had in Oregon. If I lived in Oregon and drank more of their beer, I'd probably say the same thing in reverse (had a maple syrup and coffee breakfast stout from Great Notion in Portland just the other day that was, as the kids say, dudical). Plenty of great shit in California, Colorado, etc. etc. etc., too.
If you live in a non-shithole town in either state, there is a brewer nearby with something for you. The end.
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WashingtonAround 2004 I was stationed near Nashville after spending the previous 2 years in Germany and 3 years before that in Colorado. I went to buy beer and it was nothing but crap: Bud, Miller, etc. Sam Adams was the best thing on the shelf and there wasn’t a brewery in site. I almost drove to St Louis just to buy Fat Tire.
Fast forward to today living in Lexington and I’ve got 2 breweries within a mile of my house and another half dozen or so in the city. I was Charleston, SC last week and that town has about a dozen or more breweries.
You can argue about which state has better beer but I think it’s splitting hairs at this point. You can find good beer just about anywhere in this country. After living through some dark tims circa 2004-2005 I am certainly thankful. -
Oregon
Skookum is the shit and not many know about it. Their hazies rival anything else in the PNW, including the stuff that Reubens cranks out (their Triple Crush is amazing and will get you drunk). Fremont has kinda jumped the shark, IMO. Their barrel-aged stuff is the only thing worth buying, but they jacked prices on them by $7-10 a bottle this past winter and there are many more options out there other than B-Bomb these days.1to392831weretaken said:There's a point of beer goodness where you're just sort of topped out from a quality standpoint and just market-saturating. Both states have been there for some time. Cloudburst and Fremont in Seattle, Skookum in Smokey Point, Structures and Wander in Bellingham all do things that rival anything I've had in Oregon. If I lived in Oregon and drank more of their beer, I'd probably say the same thing in reverse (had a maple syrup and coffee breakfast stout from Great Notion in Portland just the other day that was, as the kids say, dudical). Plenty of great shit in California, Colorado, etc. etc. etc., too.
If you live in a non-shithole town in either state, there is a brewer nearby with something for you. The end.
(Yella, for German beers, see if you can find something from Chuckanut. That's their thing.)
Generally I agree with you about the market being saturated, though. Beer 10 years ago to today was like going through an industrial revolution phase. -
Oregon
I agree on the "topped out" standpoint and saturation of the market. But having lived down in OR coming up on 10 months, I find myself drinking a shit ton more local beer than I did in Seattle. My local supermarket has one of the best craft beer selections of any store I've shopped at in my life.1to392831weretaken said:There's a point of beer goodness where you're just sort of topped out from a quality standpoint and just market-saturating. Both states have been there for some time. Cloudburst and Fremont in Seattle, Skookum in Smokey Point, Structures and Wander in Bellingham all do things that rival anything I've had in Oregon. If I lived in Oregon and drank more of their beer, I'd probably say the same thing in reverse (had a maple syrup and coffee breakfast stout from Great Notion in Portland just the other day that was, as the kids say, dudical). Plenty of great shit in California, Colorado, etc. etc. etc., too.
If you live in a non-shithole town in either state, there is a brewer nearby with something for you. The end.
(Yella, for German beers, see if you can find something from Chuckanut. That's their thing.) -
I remember my craft beer phase
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Oregon
Phases are for fags. I’ve been doing the same old shit for decades.MikeDamone said:I remember my craft beer phase
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Entirely too much IPA in Seattle. Yeah, Yeah, prattle on lads. Whatever. You're drinking the Star Jeans of Beers.
Ever since Bud Grant died, there hasn't been a Scotch/Scottish Ale worth shit brewed anywhere in the PNW, but for two very good ones from Bridgeport, which is now closed thanks to Portland Antifa Faggots, and Cold Smoke from Montana. Washington has no Scottish Ale worth shit anymore, and that chaps my Scottish Brogue Ass to no end. One more reason I spend much time East of the Mountains, as I can buy Kettle House Cold Smoke in Cle Elum. -
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Well shit @TurdBomber i didn’t know they closed. Guess it was 2019 so pre Antifa fags getting their reads down. I always thought their IPA was great although I’m not a huge IPA guy.TurdBomber said:Entirely too much IPA in Seattle. Yeah, Yeah, prattle on lads. Whatever. You're drinking the Star Jeans of Beers.
Ever since Bud Grant died, there hasn't been a Scotch/Scottish Ale worth shit brewed anywhere in the PNW, but for two very good ones from Bridgeport, which is now closed thanks to Portland Antifa Faggots, and Cold Smoke from Montana. Washington has no Scottish Ale worth shit anymore, and that chaps my Scottish Brogue Ass to no end. One more reason I spend much time East of the Mountains, as I can buy Kettle House Cold Smoke in Cle Elum.
My son BTW had as tuff as a Scottish name as it gets. I’ll tell you some time over whiskey at Tumalo happy hour with @dflea
https://www.beervanablog.com/beervana/2019/2/12/oregons-oldest-brewery-bridgeport-has-closed















