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  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 18,054 Standard Supporter

    Tip and Reagan worked together. Clinton and Newt worked together and we got good results. It wasn't a love fest and both sides had to compromise but shit got done. Whether we need to get shit done is another debate.

    Seems to have taken a turn for the worse with the post 911 popularity bump for W. Haven't seen much cooperation since.

    Mitch did in fact say the same thing at the start of the Obama term.

    Some things are best left unsaid. The democrats didn't have to say they were actively working for Trump to fail. The actions said it all

    Tip and Reagan worked together because the Reagan landslide in 1980 scared the sh*t out of the dems. Hell, even Ted the Swimmer voted for the Reagan tax cuts, then spent decades railing against them. Same with bubba and Newt. The huge republican landslide in 1994 scared bubba into signing welfare reform. The dems never supported tax cuts or welfare reform and had no interest in getting anything done just doing so to survive.

    The republicans didn't "cooperate" on obamacare because the dems didn't need a single republican vote. Even McConnell realized that obamacare would be unpopular and they took back the House. Today, there may be only one moderate dem in the Congress and that might be Manchin from West Virginia. We will see. Packing the court, unconstitutional gun laws and turning DC into a state aren't issues that any republican should "cooperate" on.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 116,148 Founders Club

    Tip and Reagan worked together. Clinton and Newt worked together and we got good results. It wasn't a love fest and both sides had to compromise but shit got done. Whether we need to get shit done is another debate.

    Seems to have taken a turn for the worse with the post 911 popularity bump for W. Haven't seen much cooperation since.

    Mitch did in fact say the same thing at the start of the Obama term.

    Some things are best left unsaid. The democrats didn't have to say they were actively working for Trump to fail. The actions said it all

    Tip and Reagan worked together because the Reagan landslide in 1980 scared the sh*t out of the dems. Hell, even Ted the Swimmer voted for the Reagan tax cuts, then spent decades railing against them. Same with bubba and Newt. The huge republican landslide in 1994 scared bubba into signing welfare reform. The dems never supported tax cuts or welfare reform and had no interest in getting anything done just doing so to survive.

    The republicans didn't "cooperate" on obamacare because the dems didn't need a single republican vote. Even McConnell realized that obamacare would be unpopular and they took back the House. Today, there may be only one moderate dem in the Congress and that might be Manchin from West Virginia. We will see. Packing the court, unconstitutional gun laws and turning DC into a state aren't issues that any republican should "cooperate" on.
    Mitch did two things- not cave on Obamacare and not putting Garland up and we can all be thankful for it

    The GOP isn't in the clear on the Trump agenda by the way, They were scared shitless by Mueller. Idiots
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,219

    Tip and Reagan worked together. Clinton and Newt worked together and we got good results. It wasn't a love fest and both sides had to compromise but shit got done. Whether we need to get shit done is another debate.

    Seems to have taken a turn for the worse with the post 911 popularity bump for W. Haven't seen much cooperation since.

    Mitch did in fact say the same thing at the start of the Obama term.

    Some things are best left unsaid. The democrats didn't have to say they were actively working for Trump to fail. The actions said it all

    McConnell didn't make that statement at the start of Obama's 1st term. He said it right before the mid-terms in 2010. The left has intentionally muddied the waters on this in order claim that McConnell was some kind of racist who never wanted to work with Obama.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 18,054 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:

    Tip and Reagan worked together. Clinton and Newt worked together and we got good results. It wasn't a love fest and both sides had to compromise but shit got done. Whether we need to get shit done is another debate.

    Seems to have taken a turn for the worse with the post 911 popularity bump for W. Haven't seen much cooperation since.

    Mitch did in fact say the same thing at the start of the Obama term.

    Some things are best left unsaid. The democrats didn't have to say they were actively working for Trump to fail. The actions said it all

    McConnell didn't make that statement at the start of Obama's 1st term. He said it right before the mid-terms in 2010. The left has intentionally muddied the waters on this in order claim that McConnell was some kind of racist who never wanted to work with Obama.
    Soft headed people like the suburban moms and NeverTrumpers are persuaded by language and not actual policies. Working together and cooperation have no real meaning. Republicans had tons of bills during barry's term that got stacked up in either the House or the Senate by Schumer or Stretch. But the MSM carries the water for the dems and if they hang up the Republican Covid relief bill, that's never mentioned. But if republicans balks at an $2 trillion "infrastructure" bill that has less than $200 billion of actual infrastructure, then the MSM hammers the message that republicans aren't cooperating and that they don't want roads and bridges. Getting something done is also a meaningless concept. The actual concept is what is getting done. Spending trillions by printing money is getting something done alright.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,219

    SFGbob said:

    Tip and Reagan worked together. Clinton and Newt worked together and we got good results. It wasn't a love fest and both sides had to compromise but shit got done. Whether we need to get shit done is another debate.

    Seems to have taken a turn for the worse with the post 911 popularity bump for W. Haven't seen much cooperation since.

    Mitch did in fact say the same thing at the start of the Obama term.

    Some things are best left unsaid. The democrats didn't have to say they were actively working for Trump to fail. The actions said it all

    McConnell didn't make that statement at the start of Obama's 1st term. He said it right before the mid-terms in 2010. The left has intentionally muddied the waters on this in order claim that McConnell was some kind of racist who never wanted to work with Obama.
    Soft headed people like the suburban moms and NeverTrumpers are persuaded by language and not actual policies. Working together and cooperation have no real meaning. Republicans had tons of bills during barry's term that got stacked up in either the House or the Senate by Schumer or Stretch. But the MSM carries the water for the dems and if they hang up the Republican Covid relief bill, that's never mentioned. But if republicans balks at an $2 trillion "infrastructure" bill that has less than $200 billion of actual infrastructure, then the MSM hammers the message that republicans aren't cooperating and that they don't want roads and bridges. Getting something done is also a meaningless concept. The actual concept is what is getting done. Spending trillions by printing money is getting something done alright.
    Compare the number of times the MSM called Republicans "obstructionists" during the Obama years to the number of times they called Rats obstructionists during the Trump years.

    Hell the Rats openly declared themselves as part of the "resistance" before Trump was even sworn into office. Nobody in the media cared, they cheered them on.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 116,148 Founders Club
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Tip and Reagan worked together. Clinton and Newt worked together and we got good results. It wasn't a love fest and both sides had to compromise but shit got done. Whether we need to get shit done is another debate.

    Seems to have taken a turn for the worse with the post 911 popularity bump for W. Haven't seen much cooperation since.

    Mitch did in fact say the same thing at the start of the Obama term.

    Some things are best left unsaid. The democrats didn't have to say they were actively working for Trump to fail. The actions said it all

    McConnell didn't make that statement at the start of Obama's 1st term. He said it right before the mid-terms in 2010. The left has intentionally muddied the waters on this in order claim that McConnell was some kind of racist who never wanted to work with Obama.
    Soft headed people like the suburban moms and NeverTrumpers are persuaded by language and not actual policies. Working together and cooperation have no real meaning. Republicans had tons of bills during barry's term that got stacked up in either the House or the Senate by Schumer or Stretch. But the MSM carries the water for the dems and if they hang up the Republican Covid relief bill, that's never mentioned. But if republicans balks at an $2 trillion "infrastructure" bill that has less than $200 billion of actual infrastructure, then the MSM hammers the message that republicans aren't cooperating and that they don't want roads and bridges. Getting something done is also a meaningless concept. The actual concept is what is getting done. Spending trillions by printing money is getting something done alright.
    Compare the number of times the MSM called Republicans "obstructionists" during the Obama years to the number of times they called Rats obstructionists during the Trump years.

    Hell the Rats openly declared themselves as part of the "resistance" before Trump was even sworn into office. Nobody in the media cared, they cheered them on.
    And yet many GOP types still religiously follow the narrative
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 70,251 Founders Club

    MelloDawg said:

    Why in the world would any minority party negotiate with the majority party? The playbook of "block the governing power and blame them in the next cycle for inaction" has proven immensely successful for well over a decade now.

    Excellent post.
    Above average at best imo

    fair to middling, certainly
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,219

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Tip and Reagan worked together. Clinton and Newt worked together and we got good results. It wasn't a love fest and both sides had to compromise but shit got done. Whether we need to get shit done is another debate.

    Seems to have taken a turn for the worse with the post 911 popularity bump for W. Haven't seen much cooperation since.

    Mitch did in fact say the same thing at the start of the Obama term.

    Some things are best left unsaid. The democrats didn't have to say they were actively working for Trump to fail. The actions said it all

    McConnell didn't make that statement at the start of Obama's 1st term. He said it right before the mid-terms in 2010. The left has intentionally muddied the waters on this in order claim that McConnell was some kind of racist who never wanted to work with Obama.
    Soft headed people like the suburban moms and NeverTrumpers are persuaded by language and not actual policies. Working together and cooperation have no real meaning. Republicans had tons of bills during barry's term that got stacked up in either the House or the Senate by Schumer or Stretch. But the MSM carries the water for the dems and if they hang up the Republican Covid relief bill, that's never mentioned. But if republicans balks at an $2 trillion "infrastructure" bill that has less than $200 billion of actual infrastructure, then the MSM hammers the message that republicans aren't cooperating and that they don't want roads and bridges. Getting something done is also a meaningless concept. The actual concept is what is getting done. Spending trillions by printing money is getting something done alright.
    Compare the number of times the MSM called Republicans "obstructionists" during the Obama years to the number of times they called Rats obstructionists during the Trump years.

    Hell the Rats openly declared themselves as part of the "resistance" before Trump was even sworn into office. Nobody in the media cared, they cheered them on.
    And yet many GOP types still religiously follow the narrative
    Republicans are idiots. Just wait, next election cycle they will let the left moderate every one of the Presidential debates and every question asked will be from the left's perspective.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,056 Standard Supporter

    Tip and Reagan worked together. Clinton and Newt worked together and we got good results. It wasn't a love fest and both sides had to compromise but shit got done. Whether we need to get shit done is another debate.

    Seems to have taken a turn for the worse with the post 911 popularity bump for W. Haven't seen much cooperation since.

    Mitch did in fact say the same thing at the start of the Obama term.

    Some things are best left unsaid. The democrats didn't have to say they were actively working for Trump to fail. The actions said it all

    Tip and Reagan worked together because the Reagan landslide in 1980 scared the sh*t out of the dems. Hell, even Ted the Swimmer voted for the Reagan tax cuts, then spent decades railing against them. Same with bubba and Newt. The huge republican landslide in 1994 scared bubba into signing welfare reform. The dems never supported tax cuts or welfare reform and had no interest in getting anything done just doing so to survive.

    The republicans didn't "cooperate" on obamacare because the dems didn't need a single republican vote. Even McConnell realized that obamacare would be unpopular and they took back the House. Today, there may be only one moderate dem in the Congress and that might be Manchin from West Virginia. We will see. Packing the court, unconstitutional gun laws and turning DC into a state aren't issues that any republican should "cooperate" on.
    Mitch did two things- not cave on Obamacare and not putting Garland up and we can all be thankful for it

    The GOP isn't in the clear on the Trump agenda by the way, They were scared shitless by Mueller. Idiots
    Hard to believe anyone nominated Garland for the Supreme Court. They think Clarence Thomas is bad? Fuck Me.

    Garland doesn't stand for anything except which way the wind is blowing. What a fucking joke.

    He might be an even worse AG than Eric Holder, and I didn't think that was possible.