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Even With that ringing endorsement, I'm pretty sure the jury is still out on that verdict.dflea said:
Just so you are aware, blitzkrieg - Damone is owning you real bad right now.
If you want to make drugs and prostitution legal, you need to be prepared for a lot of pain over the next decade plus due to high addiction rates and the cartel's shift to human trafficking. You're basically just shifting from a Correction state to a Rehab state at the government level in regards to drugs . And we don't have even close to the infrastructure to support that. Unless your position is to just let society and the "market" deal with all of the new crank and heroin addicts on the streets and the acts that they would be committing to get their next fix.
Again with legal prostitution, the cartel's would simply focus more on human trafficking. Also As we've seen with legal weed in WA, the cost is double what you can get it on the street for. So letting the gov't tax and regulate isn't a good option either. That wouldn't put the cartels out of the drug business at all. Eventually it would lower their profit margins. But they'd make it up on volume.
I do agree that all Gov't's should legalize weed in the US for adults. I don't agree that any gov't entities should be taxing and regulating it however. Their position that it makes it safer for the end user is complete BS and a cash grab.. A friggin retard can tell what's safe weed and what's not. -
I was going to argue - then I remembered you're a Cooger so everyone knows you're wrong already.salemcoog said:
Even With that ringing endorsement, I'm pretty sure the jury is still out on that verdict.dflea said:
Just so you are aware, blitzkrieg - Damone is owning you real bad right now.
If you want to make drugs and prostitution legal, you need to be prepared for a lot of pain over the next decade plus due to high addiction rates and the cartel's shift to human trafficking. You're basically just shifting from a Correction state to a Rehab state at the government level in regards to drugs . And we don't have even close to the infrastructure to support that. Unless your position is to just let society and the "market" deal with all of the new crank and heroin addicts on the streets and the acts that they would be committing to get their next fix.
Again with legal prostitution, the cartel's would simply focus more on human trafficking. Also As we've seen with legal weed in WA, the cost is double what you can get it on the street for. So letting the gov't tax and regulate isn't a good option either. That wouldn't put the cartels out of the drug business at all. Eventually it would lower their profit margins. But they'd make it up on volume.
I do agree that all Gov't's should legalize weed in the US for adults. I don't agree that any gov't entities should be taxing and regulating it however. Their position that it makes it safer for the end user is complete BS and a cash grab.. A friggin retard can tell what's safe weed and what's not.
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Crippled dogs in the peanut gallery should stay on the sidelines and let their owners pet them.dflea said:
Did you squeal in a high pitch when you typed that?oregonblitzkrieg said:Why not let people buy and sell sex between consenting adults? Well, it would help spread more disease first of all. By bringing the practice out of the shadows and into the open more people would engage in it. And you can't just say it's an issue of personal freedom and liberty. Some of the bastards that get infected will then go home and sleep with their wives/girlfriends and either willfully infect them or do so without knowing they've got an STD. Also it's just plain fucking wrong it would make us look like even more of a degenerate society. As far as legalizing cocaine and heroin, are you insane? HEROIN?
The rest of that post is such drivel I could hardly stand to read it. Go have kids if you want to babysit someone, asshole. -
Yeah, bankrupt after nine years and the US annexed them.topdawgnc said:
About a 25% poverty rate if you count illegals
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If heroin becomes legal the government will tax it, just like they do weed. No amount of arguing or reasoning on your part will change that fact. So you should just accept it as reality. That means the government will be profiting from getting us hooked on heroin and other drugs.MikeDamone said:
When did I say the government should profit from heroin sales. I said it should be legal. You automatically make the leap that the government needs to be involved. Look at the marijuana thread. I'm consistent in my comments regarding taxation. The failed war on drugs has left far more damage in its wake than drugs themselves could ever do. The damage has been immense and the resources wasted vast.oregonblitzkrieg said:
I understand. I wouldn't make a counterattack either when I'm running low on ammunition. Retreating under the guise of superiority is a good move. Anyway it'd be kind of hard to defend the position that the government should be profiting from heroin sales.MikeDamone said:
You're all over the map and full of contradictions. Spend a bit more time on this and maybe we can have a decent and informed conversation.oregonblitzkrieg said:
I just watched the video. This debate isn't over. He makes many valid points, one of which is that legalizing these substances will produce more addicts. It will be easier to obtain and easier for children to get into it and become lifelong addicts. It will reduce the power of cartels and criminals, true. But it will only shift that power to the government, which will in effect become the cartel and the recipient of tax money generated by the sale of heroin, cocaine, etc. The government will then have an incentive to promote the use of destructive substances, and it will have a stake in getting people addicted young because it generates a new revenue flow for them. The government should not be in the business of telling us what we should do or not do to ourselves as long as we aren't harming other individuals. But it should also not be in the business of profiting from the sale of harmful substances. Even if they manage to regulate it so that it is 'safer,' it won't change the fact that it's highly addicting. Of course some people will latch onto this and say "then the government shouldn't be in the business of profiting from cupcake sales either, since sugar and sweets are addicting." That's a logical argument, but where does it end? Will lines be so blurred that safe heroin will be treated no differently that sugary cupcakes?MikeDamone said:Jesus. So you agree with most of this but still miss the point and still didn't watch the video.
Heroin isn't "in the shadows" and it is very easy to get.
The cyanide pill argument is a strawman, but assisted suicide is legal in many places. And making suicide illegal by any means prevents no one from doing it.
Good day sir.
You say heroin is easy to get. Maybe in slums like Seattle. I don't know where to find it. But I sure as fuck would know where to find it if I could buy it at the local Safeway.
And if you think legal prostitution increases stds then you clearly haven't done your homework. I'd love to see your stats on that. It's legal in many parts of the developed world so you should be able to provide a lot of data showing disease and prostitution going hand in hand. Look at how it's done and the results in places like Australia and Canada.
Person freedom, choice, and liberty is what all this comes down to. I always find conservatives to be caricatures of themselves. They want less government expect whether want it use the force of government to control people and shove their beliefs on others.
I'll leave the prostitution issue alone for now. But it makes sense that if its out in the open more people are going to be doing it. That hooker you're thinking about banging has been rammed by 20 more sex fiends because she's more visible. You can do the math. And if we're looking to Australia and Canada as examples of what we should become, we might as well mail it in and become a big France. Lets get more degenerate while adversaries like Russia get stronger. How did that work out for Rome?
First you say I'm a libtard now you're saying I'm a conservative. Make up your mind. -
Truth is, you're just a fucking idiot. My mind is made up.oregonblitzkrieg said:
If heroin becomes legal the government will tax it, just like they do weed. No amount of arguing or reasoning on your part will change that fact. So you should just accept it as reality. That means the government will be profiting from getting us hooked on heroin and other drugs.MikeDamone said:
When did I say the government should profit from heroin sales. I said it should be legal. You automatically make the leap that the government needs to be involved. Look at the marijuana thread. I'm consistent in my comments regarding taxation. The failed war on drugs has left far more damage in its wake than drugs themselves could ever do. The damage has been immense and the resources wasted vast.oregonblitzkrieg said:
I understand. I wouldn't make a counterattack either when I'm running low on ammunition. Retreating under the guise of superiority is a good move. Anyway it'd be kind of hard to defend the position that the government should be profiting from heroin sales.MikeDamone said:
You're all over the map and full of contradictions. Spend a bit more time on this and maybe we can have a decent and informed conversation.oregonblitzkrieg said:
I just watched the video. This debate isn't over. He makes many valid points, one of which is that legalizing these substances will produce more addicts. It will be easier to obtain and easier for children to get into it and become lifelong addicts. It will reduce the power of cartels and criminals, true. But it will only shift that power to the government, which will in effect become the cartel and the recipient of tax money generated by the sale of heroin, cocaine, etc. The government will then have an incentive to promote the use of destructive substances, and it will have a stake in getting people addicted young because it generates a new revenue flow for them. The government should not be in the business of telling us what we should do or not do to ourselves as long as we aren't harming other individuals. But it should also not be in the business of profiting from the sale of harmful substances. Even if they manage to regulate it so that it is 'safer,' it won't change the fact that it's highly addicting. Of course some people will latch onto this and say "then the government shouldn't be in the business of profiting from cupcake sales either, since sugar and sweets are addicting." That's a logical argument, but where does it end? Will lines be so blurred that safe heroin will be treated no differently that sugary cupcakes?MikeDamone said:Jesus. So you agree with most of this but still miss the point and still didn't watch the video.
Heroin isn't "in the shadows" and it is very easy to get.
The cyanide pill argument is a strawman, but assisted suicide is legal in many places. And making suicide illegal by any means prevents no one from doing it.
Good day sir.
You say heroin is easy to get. Maybe in slums like Seattle. I don't know where to find it. But I sure as fuck would know where to find it if I could buy it at the local Safeway.
And if you think legal prostitution increases stds then you clearly haven't done your homework. I'd love to see your stats on that. It's legal in many parts of the developed world so you should be able to provide a lot of data showing disease and prostitution going hand in hand. Look at how it's done and the results in places like Australia and Canada.
Person freedom, choice, and liberty is what all this comes down to. I always find conservatives to be caricatures of themselves. They want less government expect whether want it use the force of government to control people and shove their beliefs on others.
I'll leave the prostitution issue alone for now. But it makes sense that if its out in the open more people are going to be doing it. That hooker you're thinking about banging has been rammed by 20 more sex fiends because she's more visible. You can do the math. And if we're looking to Australia and Canada as examples of what we should become, we might as well mail it in and become a big France. Lets get more degenerate while adversaries like Russia get stronger. How did that work out for Rome?
First you say I'm a libtard now you're saying I'm a conservative. Make up your mind. -
Are you still here? Shouldn't you be lubing Damone's rickshaw like a good little knave and preparing to retreat with him out of this thread when his position totally collapses?dflea said:
Truth is, you're just a fucking idiot. My mind is made up.oregonblitzkrieg said:
If heroin becomes legal the government will tax it, just like they do weed. No amount of arguing or reasoning on your part will change that fact. So you should just accept it as reality. That means the government will be profiting from getting us hooked on heroin and other drugs.MikeDamone said:
When did I say the government should profit from heroin sales. I said it should be legal. You automatically make the leap that the government needs to be involved. Look at the marijuana thread. I'm consistent in my comments regarding taxation. The failed war on drugs has left far more damage in its wake than drugs themselves could ever do. The damage has been immense and the resources wasted vast.oregonblitzkrieg said:
I understand. I wouldn't make a counterattack either when I'm running low on ammunition. Retreating under the guise of superiority is a good move. Anyway it'd be kind of hard to defend the position that the government should be profiting from heroin sales.MikeDamone said:
You're all over the map and full of contradictions. Spend a bit more time on this and maybe we can have a decent and informed conversation.oregonblitzkrieg said:
I just watched the video. This debate isn't over. He makes many valid points, one of which is that legalizing these substances will produce more addicts. It will be easier to obtain and easier for children to get into it and become lifelong addicts. It will reduce the power of cartels and criminals, true. But it will only shift that power to the government, which will in effect become the cartel and the recipient of tax money generated by the sale of heroin, cocaine, etc. The government will then have an incentive to promote the use of destructive substances, and it will have a stake in getting people addicted young because it generates a new revenue flow for them. The government should not be in the business of telling us what we should do or not do to ourselves as long as we aren't harming other individuals. But it should also not be in the business of profiting from the sale of harmful substances. Even if they manage to regulate it so that it is 'safer,' it won't change the fact that it's highly addicting. Of course some people will latch onto this and say "then the government shouldn't be in the business of profiting from cupcake sales either, since sugar and sweets are addicting." That's a logical argument, but where does it end? Will lines be so blurred that safe heroin will be treated no differently that sugary cupcakes?MikeDamone said:Jesus. So you agree with most of this but still miss the point and still didn't watch the video.
Heroin isn't "in the shadows" and it is very easy to get.
The cyanide pill argument is a strawman, but assisted suicide is legal in many places. And making suicide illegal by any means prevents no one from doing it.
Good day sir.
You say heroin is easy to get. Maybe in slums like Seattle. I don't know where to find it. But I sure as fuck would know where to find it if I could buy it at the local Safeway.
And if you think legal prostitution increases stds then you clearly haven't done your homework. I'd love to see your stats on that. It's legal in many parts of the developed world so you should be able to provide a lot of data showing disease and prostitution going hand in hand. Look at how it's done and the results in places like Australia and Canada.
Person freedom, choice, and liberty is what all this comes down to. I always find conservatives to be caricatures of themselves. They want less government expect whether want it use the force of government to control people and shove their beliefs on others.
I'll leave the prostitution issue alone for now. But it makes sense that if its out in the open more people are going to be doing it. That hooker you're thinking about banging has been rammed by 20 more sex fiends because she's more visible. You can do the math. And if we're looking to Australia and Canada as examples of what we should become, we might as well mail it in and become a big France. Lets get more degenerate while adversaries like Russia get stronger. How did that work out for Rome?
First you say I'm a libtard now you're saying I'm a conservative. Make up your mind. -
This thread is corny as fuck.
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You form your opinion on what you believe based on your feeling, emotions, morality,maybe religion, and what you " think" would happen. It would be better to form an opinion based on research, facts, data, and weighing, on balance, what isn't necessarily good, but what choice is the least harmful overall.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Are you still here? Shouldn't you be lubing Damone's rickshaw like a good little knave and preparing to retreat with him out of this thread when his position totally collapses?dflea said:
Truth is, you're just a fucking idiot. My mind is made up.oregonblitzkrieg said:
If heroin becomes legal the government will tax it, just like they do weed. No amount of arguing or reasoning on your part will change that fact. So you should just accept it as reality. That means the government will be profiting from getting us hooked on heroin and other drugs.MikeDamone said:
When did I say the government should profit from heroin sales. I said it should be legal. You automatically make the leap that the government needs to be involved. Look at the marijuana thread. I'm consistent in my comments regarding taxation. The failed war on drugs has left far more damage in its wake than drugs themselves could ever do. The damage has been immense and the resources wasted vast.oregonblitzkrieg said:
I understand. I wouldn't make a counterattack either when I'm running low on ammunition. Retreating under the guise of superiority is a good move. Anyway it'd be kind of hard to defend the position that the government should be profiting from heroin sales.MikeDamone said:
You're all over the map and full of contradictions. Spend a bit more time on this and maybe we can have a decent and informed conversation.oregonblitzkrieg said:
I just watched the video. This debate isn't over. He makes many valid points, one of which is that legalizing these substances will produce more addicts. It will be easier to obtain and easier for children to get into it and become lifelong addicts. It will reduce the power of cartels and criminals, true. But it will only shift that power to the government, which will in effect become the cartel and the recipient of tax money generated by the sale of heroin, cocaine, etc. The government will then have an incentive to promote the use of destructive substances, and it will have a stake in getting people addicted young because it generates a new revenue flow for them. The government should not be in the business of telling us what we should do or not do to ourselves as long as we aren't harming other individuals. But it should also not be in the business of profiting from the sale of harmful substances. Even if they manage to regulate it so that it is 'safer,' it won't change the fact that it's highly addicting. Of course some people will latch onto this and say "then the government shouldn't be in the business of profiting from cupcake sales either, since sugar and sweets are addicting." That's a logical argument, but where does it end? Will lines be so blurred that safe heroin will be treated no differently that sugary cupcakes?MikeDamone said:Jesus. So you agree with most of this but still miss the point and still didn't watch the video.
Heroin isn't "in the shadows" and it is very easy to get.
The cyanide pill argument is a strawman, but assisted suicide is legal in many places. And making suicide illegal by any means prevents no one from doing it.
Good day sir.
You say heroin is easy to get. Maybe in slums like Seattle. I don't know where to find it. But I sure as fuck would know where to find it if I could buy it at the local Safeway.
And if you think legal prostitution increases stds then you clearly haven't done your homework. I'd love to see your stats on that. It's legal in many parts of the developed world so you should be able to provide a lot of data showing disease and prostitution going hand in hand. Look at how it's done and the results in places like Australia and Canada.
Person freedom, choice, and liberty is what all this comes down to. I always find conservatives to be caricatures of themselves. They want less government expect whether want it use the force of government to control people and shove their beliefs on others.
I'll leave the prostitution issue alone for now. But it makes sense that if its out in the open more people are going to be doing it. That hooker you're thinking about banging has been rammed by 20 more sex fiends because she's more visible. You can do the math. And if we're looking to Australia and Canada as examples of what we should become, we might as well mail it in and become a big France. Lets get more degenerate while adversaries like Russia get stronger. How did that work out for Rome?
First you say I'm a libtard now you're saying I'm a conservative. Make up your mind.
I start with the premise and the truth that each adult is free to make all choices regarding how they will live their lives. From there I accept that each individual also has to live with the consequences of their choices. Good, bad, intended and unintended..
Regarding drugs, from there I can look at the big picture and see what's going to be a better solution than prohibition. There is a vast amount of data that show the cost of prohibition to be extremely high, and more costly than legalization or decriminalization. (Alcohol prohibition is an example) You say the reality is the government will tax drugs and by doing that be condoning and profiting from drug abuse. Maybe the ship has sailed where the government would wet it's beak in the sale of drugs, and if they did how would that be different than alcohol? And again, if they did, would it be less desirable to have the government tax the product, or have some of the most violent murderous people on earth profit.
Regarding prostitution. I would say you need more research on the topic to take emotion out of the argument. Dismissing it out of hand because Canada and Australia aren't examples of "what we should become" and thing you know we have degenerated and Russia has strengthened is a a nice red herring piggy backed onto a slippery slope. Two logical fallacies for the price of one. Prostitution is safe and legal in parts of the U.S. and many places in the world. We waste a lot of resources going after what people choose to do as consenting adults while we are continually told budgets are too tight and the government needs more of our money.
spiegel.de/international/europe/evaluating-drug-decriminalization-in-portugal-12-years-later-a-891060.html
When did I call you a conservative? -
Oh I get it. I pointed out that Damone is making you look like the stupid asshole you are, so know I'm Damone's knave.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Are you still here? Shouldn't you be lubing Damone's rickshaw like a good little knave and preparing to retreat with him out of this thread when his position totally collapses?dflea said:
Truth is, you're just a fucking idiot. My mind is made up.oregonblitzkrieg said:
If heroin becomes legal the government will tax it, just like they do weed. No amount of arguing or reasoning on your part will change that fact. So you should just accept it as reality. That means the government will be profiting from getting us hooked on heroin and other drugs.MikeDamone said:
When did I say the government should profit from heroin sales. I said it should be legal. You automatically make the leap that the government needs to be involved. Look at the marijuana thread. I'm consistent in my comments regarding taxation. The failed war on drugs has left far more damage in its wake than drugs themselves could ever do. The damage has been immense and the resources wasted vast.oregonblitzkrieg said:
I understand. I wouldn't make a counterattack either when I'm running low on ammunition. Retreating under the guise of superiority is a good move. Anyway it'd be kind of hard to defend the position that the government should be profiting from heroin sales.MikeDamone said:
You're all over the map and full of contradictions. Spend a bit more time on this and maybe we can have a decent and informed conversation.oregonblitzkrieg said:
I just watched the video. This debate isn't over. He makes many valid points, one of which is that legalizing these substances will produce more addicts. It will be easier to obtain and easier for children to get into it and become lifelong addicts. It will reduce the power of cartels and criminals, true. But it will only shift that power to the government, which will in effect become the cartel and the recipient of tax money generated by the sale of heroin, cocaine, etc. The government will then have an incentive to promote the use of destructive substances, and it will have a stake in getting people addicted young because it generates a new revenue flow for them. The government should not be in the business of telling us what we should do or not do to ourselves as long as we aren't harming other individuals. But it should also not be in the business of profiting from the sale of harmful substances. Even if they manage to regulate it so that it is 'safer,' it won't change the fact that it's highly addicting. Of course some people will latch onto this and say "then the government shouldn't be in the business of profiting from cupcake sales either, since sugar and sweets are addicting." That's a logical argument, but where does it end? Will lines be so blurred that safe heroin will be treated no differently that sugary cupcakes?MikeDamone said:Jesus. So you agree with most of this but still miss the point and still didn't watch the video.
Heroin isn't "in the shadows" and it is very easy to get.
The cyanide pill argument is a strawman, but assisted suicide is legal in many places. And making suicide illegal by any means prevents no one from doing it.
Good day sir.
You say heroin is easy to get. Maybe in slums like Seattle. I don't know where to find it. But I sure as fuck would know where to find it if I could buy it at the local Safeway.
And if you think legal prostitution increases stds then you clearly haven't done your homework. I'd love to see your stats on that. It's legal in many parts of the developed world so you should be able to provide a lot of data showing disease and prostitution going hand in hand. Look at how it's done and the results in places like Australia and Canada.
Person freedom, choice, and liberty is what all this comes down to. I always find conservatives to be caricatures of themselves. They want less government expect whether want it use the force of government to control people and shove their beliefs on others.
I'll leave the prostitution issue alone for now. But it makes sense that if its out in the open more people are going to be doing it. That hooker you're thinking about banging has been rammed by 20 more sex fiends because she's more visible. You can do the math. And if we're looking to Australia and Canada as examples of what we should become, we might as well mail it in and become a big France. Lets get more degenerate while adversaries like Russia get stronger. How did that work out for Rome?
First you say I'm a libtard now you're saying I'm a conservative. Make up your mind.
Except Damone and I aren't pals, associates, friends, or anything else..............it just boils down to you being a stupid asshole.
Go kill yourself, and do the world a favor. The only thing collapsing in this thread is any hint of credibility may have once had. -
This thread is fun.
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Your intrusion into the debate amounted to nothing more than patting your internet buddy on the back. You didn't contribute any worthwhile arguments on the subject, which reduces you (in this thread) to one of Damone's henchmen. Your devotion to your leader is admirable. But you really should just stay on the sidelines. Maybe slice oranges and pour Gatorade to help keep your pal in the game?dflea said:
Oh I get it. I pointed out that Damone is making you look like the stupid asshole you are, so know I'm Damone's knave.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Are you still here? Shouldn't you be lubing Damone's rickshaw like a good little knave and preparing to retreat with him out of this thread when his position totally collapses?dflea said:
Truth is, you're just a fucking idiot. My mind is made up.oregonblitzkrieg said:
If heroin becomes legal the government will tax it, just like they do weed. No amount of arguing or reasoning on your part will change that fact. So you should just accept it as reality. That means the government will be profiting from getting us hooked on heroin and other drugs.MikeDamone said:
When did I say the government should profit from heroin sales. I said it should be legal. You automatically make the leap that the government needs to be involved. Look at the marijuana thread. I'm consistent in my comments regarding taxation. The failed war on drugs has left far more damage in its wake than drugs themselves could ever do. The damage has been immense and the resources wasted vast.oregonblitzkrieg said:
I understand. I wouldn't make a counterattack either when I'm running low on ammunition. Retreating under the guise of superiority is a good move. Anyway it'd be kind of hard to defend the position that the government should be profiting from heroin sales.MikeDamone said:
You're all over the map and full of contradictions. Spend a bit more time on this and maybe we can have a decent and informed conversation.oregonblitzkrieg said:
I just watched the video. This debate isn't over. He makes many valid points, one of which is that legalizing these substances will produce more addicts. It will be easier to obtain and easier for children to get into it and become lifelong addicts. It will reduce the power of cartels and criminals, true. But it will only shift that power to the government, which will in effect become the cartel and the recipient of tax money generated by the sale of heroin, cocaine, etc. The government will then have an incentive to promote the use of destructive substances, and it will have a stake in getting people addicted young because it generates a new revenue flow for them. The government should not be in the business of telling us what we should do or not do to ourselves as long as we aren't harming other individuals. But it should also not be in the business of profiting from the sale of harmful substances. Even if they manage to regulate it so that it is 'safer,' it won't change the fact that it's highly addicting. Of course some people will latch onto this and say "then the government shouldn't be in the business of profiting from cupcake sales either, since sugar and sweets are addicting." That's a logical argument, but where does it end? Will lines be so blurred that safe heroin will be treated no differently that sugary cupcakes?MikeDamone said:Jesus. So you agree with most of this but still miss the point and still didn't watch the video.
Heroin isn't "in the shadows" and it is very easy to get.
The cyanide pill argument is a strawman, but assisted suicide is legal in many places. And making suicide illegal by any means prevents no one from doing it.
Good day sir.
You say heroin is easy to get. Maybe in slums like Seattle. I don't know where to find it. But I sure as fuck would know where to find it if I could buy it at the local Safeway.
And if you think legal prostitution increases stds then you clearly haven't done your homework. I'd love to see your stats on that. It's legal in many parts of the developed world so you should be able to provide a lot of data showing disease and prostitution going hand in hand. Look at how it's done and the results in places like Australia and Canada.
Person freedom, choice, and liberty is what all this comes down to. I always find conservatives to be caricatures of themselves. They want less government expect whether want it use the force of government to control people and shove their beliefs on others.
I'll leave the prostitution issue alone for now. But it makes sense that if its out in the open more people are going to be doing it. That hooker you're thinking about banging has been rammed by 20 more sex fiends because she's more visible. You can do the math. And if we're looking to Australia and Canada as examples of what we should become, we might as well mail it in and become a big France. Lets get more degenerate while adversaries like Russia get stronger. How did that work out for Rome?
First you say I'm a libtard now you're saying I'm a conservative. Make up your mind.
Except Damone and I aren't pals, associates, friends, or anything else..............it just boils down to you being a stupid asshole.
Go kill yourself, and do the world a favor. The only thing collapsing in this thread is any hint of credibility may have once had. -
OBK. ET. AP.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Your intrusion into the debate amounted to nothing more than patting your internet buddy on the back. You didn't contribute any worthwhile arguments on the subject, which reduces you (in this thread) to one of Damone's henchmen. Your devotion to your leader is admirable. But you really should just stay on the sidelines. Maybe slice oranges and pour Gatorade to help keep your pal in the game?dflea said:
Oh I get it. I pointed out that Damone is making you look like the stupid asshole you are, so know I'm Damone's knave.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Are you still here? Shouldn't you be lubing Damone's rickshaw like a good little knave and preparing to retreat with him out of this thread when his position totally collapses?dflea said:
Truth is, you're just a fucking idiot. My mind is made up.oregonblitzkrieg said:
If heroin becomes legal the government will tax it, just like they do weed. No amount of arguing or reasoning on your part will change that fact. So you should just accept it as reality. That means the government will be profiting from getting us hooked on heroin and other drugs.MikeDamone said:
When did I say the government should profit from heroin sales. I said it should be legal. You automatically make the leap that the government needs to be involved. Look at the marijuana thread. I'm consistent in my comments regarding taxation. The failed war on drugs has left far more damage in its wake than drugs themselves could ever do. The damage has been immense and the resources wasted vast.oregonblitzkrieg said:
I understand. I wouldn't make a counterattack either when I'm running low on ammunition. Retreating under the guise of superiority is a good move. Anyway it'd be kind of hard to defend the position that the government should be profiting from heroin sales.MikeDamone said:
You're all over the map and full of contradictions. Spend a bit more time on this and maybe we can have a decent and informed conversation.oregonblitzkrieg said:
I just watched the video. This debate isn't over. He makes many valid points, one of which is that legalizing these substances will produce more addicts. It will be easier to obtain and easier for children to get into it and become lifelong addicts. It will reduce the power of cartels and criminals, true. But it will only shift that power to the government, which will in effect become the cartel and the recipient of tax money generated by the sale of heroin, cocaine, etc. The government will then have an incentive to promote the use of destructive substances, and it will have a stake in getting people addicted young because it generates a new revenue flow for them. The government should not be in the business of telling us what we should do or not do to ourselves as long as we aren't harming other individuals. But it should also not be in the business of profiting from the sale of harmful substances. Even if they manage to regulate it so that it is 'safer,' it won't change the fact that it's highly addicting. Of course some people will latch onto this and say "then the government shouldn't be in the business of profiting from cupcake sales either, since sugar and sweets are addicting." That's a logical argument, but where does it end? Will lines be so blurred that safe heroin will be treated no differently that sugary cupcakes?MikeDamone said:Jesus. So you agree with most of this but still miss the point and still didn't watch the video.
Heroin isn't "in the shadows" and it is very easy to get.
The cyanide pill argument is a strawman, but assisted suicide is legal in many places. And making suicide illegal by any means prevents no one from doing it.
Good day sir.
You say heroin is easy to get. Maybe in slums like Seattle. I don't know where to find it. But I sure as fuck would know where to find it if I could buy it at the local Safeway.
And if you think legal prostitution increases stds then you clearly haven't done your homework. I'd love to see your stats on that. It's legal in many parts of the developed world so you should be able to provide a lot of data showing disease and prostitution going hand in hand. Look at how it's done and the results in places like Australia and Canada.
Person freedom, choice, and liberty is what all this comes down to. I always find conservatives to be caricatures of themselves. They want less government expect whether want it use the force of government to control people and shove their beliefs on others.
I'll leave the prostitution issue alone for now. But it makes sense that if its out in the open more people are going to be doing it. That hooker you're thinking about banging has been rammed by 20 more sex fiends because she's more visible. You can do the math. And if we're looking to Australia and Canada as examples of what we should become, we might as well mail it in and become a big France. Lets get more degenerate while adversaries like Russia get stronger. How did that work out for Rome?
First you say I'm a libtard now you're saying I'm a conservative. Make up your mind.
Except Damone and I aren't pals, associates, friends, or anything else..............it just boils down to you being a stupid asshole.
Go kill yourself, and do the world a favor. The only thing collapsing in this thread is any hint of credibility may have once had.
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You clearly stated that heroin should be legalized (as opposed to decriminalized, which is what Portugal has done). Very different beasts. That was the premise I've been attacking. You've downshifted here into a less radical position in order to put yourself on firmer ground and avoid a punishing defeat. I'm calling you out on this. Very sly. Have you really shifted to decriminalization as your stance or is it just an argumentative ploy?MikeDamone said:
You form your opinion on what you believe based on your feeling, emotions, morality,maybe religion, and what you " think" would happen. It would be better to form an opinion based on research, facts, data, and weighing, on balance, what isn't necessarily good, but what choice is the least harmful overall.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Are you still here? Shouldn't you be lubing Damone's rickshaw like a good little knave and preparing to retreat with him out of this thread when his position totally collapses?dflea said:
Truth is, you're just a fucking idiot. My mind is made up.oregonblitzkrieg said:
If heroin becomes legal the government will tax it, just like they do weed. No amount of arguing or reasoning on your part will change that fact. So you should just accept it as reality. That means the government will be profiting from getting us hooked on heroin and other drugs.MikeDamone said:
When did I say the government should profit from heroin sales. I said it should be legal. You automatically make the leap that the government needs to be involved. Look at the marijuana thread. I'm consistent in my comments regarding taxation. The failed war on drugs has left far more damage in its wake than drugs themselves could ever do. The damage has been immense and the resources wasted vast.oregonblitzkrieg said:
I understand. I wouldn't make a counterattack either when I'm running low on ammunition. Retreating under the guise of superiority is a good move. Anyway it'd be kind of hard to defend the position that the government should be profiting from heroin sales.MikeDamone said:
You're all over the map and full of contradictions. Spend a bit more time on this and maybe we can have a decent and informed conversation.oregonblitzkrieg said:
I just watched the video. This debate isn't over. He makes many valid points, one of which is that legalizing these substances will produce more addicts. It will be easier to obtain and easier for children to get into it and become lifelong addicts. It will reduce the power of cartels and criminals, true. But it will only shift that power to the government, which will in effect become the cartel and the recipient of tax money generated by the sale of heroin, cocaine, etc. The government will then have an incentive to promote the use of destructive substances, and it will have a stake in getting people addicted young because it generates a new revenue flow for them. The government should not be in the business of telling us what we should do or not do to ourselves as long as we aren't harming other individuals. But it should also not be in the business of profiting from the sale of harmful substances. Even if they manage to regulate it so that it is 'safer,' it won't change the fact that it's highly addicting. Of course some people will latch onto this and say "then the government shouldn't be in the business of profiting from cupcake sales either, since sugar and sweets are addicting." That's a logical argument, but where does it end? Will lines be so blurred that safe heroin will be treated no differently that sugary cupcakes?MikeDamone said:Jesus. So you agree with most of this but still miss the point and still didn't watch the video.
Heroin isn't "in the shadows" and it is very easy to get.
The cyanide pill argument is a strawman, but assisted suicide is legal in many places. And making suicide illegal by any means prevents no one from doing it.
Good day sir.
You say heroin is easy to get. Maybe in slums like Seattle. I don't know where to find it. But I sure as fuck would know where to find it if I could buy it at the local Safeway.
And if you think legal prostitution increases stds then you clearly haven't done your homework. I'd love to see your stats on that. It's legal in many parts of the developed world so you should be able to provide a lot of data showing disease and prostitution going hand in hand. Look at how it's done and the results in places like Australia and Canada.
Person freedom, choice, and liberty is what all this comes down to. I always find conservatives to be caricatures of themselves. They want less government expect whether want it use the force of government to control people and shove their beliefs on others.
I'll leave the prostitution issue alone for now. But it makes sense that if its out in the open more people are going to be doing it. That hooker you're thinking about banging has been rammed by 20 more sex fiends because she's more visible. You can do the math. And if we're looking to Australia and Canada as examples of what we should become, we might as well mail it in and become a big France. Lets get more degenerate while adversaries like Russia get stronger. How did that work out for Rome?
First you say I'm a libtard now you're saying I'm a conservative. Make up your mind.
I start with the premise and the truth that each adult is free to make all choices regarding how they will live their lives. From there I accept that each individual also has to live with the consequences of their choices. Good, bad, intended and unintended..
Regarding drugs, from there I can look at the big picture and see what's going to be a better solution than prohibition. There is a vast amount of data that show the cost of prohibition to be extremely high, and more costly than legalization or decriminalization. (Alcohol prohibition is an example) You say the reality is the government will tax drugs and by doing that be condoning and profiting from drug abuse. Maybe the ship has sailed where the government would wet it's beak in the sale of drugs, and if they did how would that be different than alcohol? And again, if they did, would it be less desirable to have the government tax the product, or have some of the most violent murderous people on earth profit.
Regarding prostitution. I would say you need more research on the topic to take emotion out of the argument. Dismissing it out of hand because Canada and Australia aren't examples of "what we should become" and thing you know we have degenerated and Russia has strengthened is a a nice red herring piggy backed onto a slippery slope. Two logical fallacies for the price of one. Prostitution is safe and legal in parts of the U.S. and many places in the world. We waste a lot of resources going after what people choose to do as consenting adults while we are continually told budgets are too tight and the government needs more of our money.
spiegel.de/international/europe/evaluating-drug-decriminalization-in-portugal-12-years-later-a-891060.html
When did I call you a conservative?
I knew eventually that when addressing the issue of taxation, you or someone else would try to justify it by saying that it's better for the government to profit than a bunch of violent thugs. Really? The violent thugs and cartels have limited power to operate. They have to stay in the shadows under constant threat of arrest or even getting killed in order to get their wares on the market. The government is all encompassing and faces no such risks. They will have a vested interest in the success of this racket, as well as getting us hooked. Do we really want a nation where our own government is profiting from heroin, crack and methamphetamine sales? That's right. We're bringing meth into this debate. Like SalemCoog said, how are we going to deal with all the new addicts that legalization would bring? You cannot compare heroin and methamphetamine to alcohol. They aren't even in the same realm.
On prostitution, how exactly is it safe? And if you legalize prostitution, the government will tax it too. Do you want the government to profit from your daughter selling her body to a bunch of faceless johns? Let that pimp profit, eventually he's going to jail anyway.
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Why is there an OBK in every thread and why is he always pressing?
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You're right, don't mess with Texas.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Yeah, bankrupt after nine years and the US annexed them.topdawgnc said:
About a 25% poverty rate if you count illegals
But don't mess with them!!
You might disrupt the economic growth that is outpacing the nation.
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one of those right to work for less states!!!!11! ROTFL!!!!topdawgnc said:
You're right, don't mess with Texas.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Yeah, bankrupt after nine years and the US annexed them.topdawgnc said:
About a 25% poverty rate if you count illegals
But don't mess with them!!
You might disrupt the economic growth that is outpacing the nation.
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This X 1000.topdawgnc said:
You're right, don't mess with Texas.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
Yeah, bankrupt after nine years and the US annexed them.topdawgnc said:
About a 25% poverty rate if you count illegals
But don't mess with them!!
You might disrupt the economic growth that is outpacing the nation. -
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So he's a Muslim Satanist now?GrundleStiltzkin said: -
Depends. Where's his next campaign stop?Blackie said:
So he's a Muslim Satanist now?GrundleStiltzkin said:
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He looks very thrilled.GrundleStiltzkin said:
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I was attempting to do you a favor, you stupid son of a bitch. But hey, climb up on the rooftop and shout out what a stupid motherfucker you are - that way everyone will know, not just the people in your immediate vicinity.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Your intrusion into the debate amounted to nothing more than patting your internet buddy on the back. You didn't contribute any worthwhile arguments on the subject, which reduces you (in this thread) to one of Damone's henchmen. Your devotion to your leader is admirable. But you really should just stay on the sidelines. Maybe slice oranges and pour Gatorade to help keep your pal in the game?dflea said:
Oh I get it. I pointed out that Damone is making you look like the stupid asshole you are, so know I'm Damone's knave.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Are you still here? Shouldn't you be lubing Damone's rickshaw like a good little knave and preparing to retreat with him out of this thread when his position totally collapses?dflea said:
Truth is, you're just a fucking idiot. My mind is made up.oregonblitzkrieg said:
If heroin becomes legal the government will tax it, just like they do weed. No amount of arguing or reasoning on your part will change that fact. So you should just accept it as reality. That means the government will be profiting from getting us hooked on heroin and other drugs.MikeDamone said:
When did I say the government should profit from heroin sales. I said it should be legal. You automatically make the leap that the government needs to be involved. Look at the marijuana thread. I'm consistent in my comments regarding taxation. The failed war on drugs has left far more damage in its wake than drugs themselves could ever do. The damage has been immense and the resources wasted vast.oregonblitzkrieg said:
I understand. I wouldn't make a counterattack either when I'm running low on ammunition. Retreating under the guise of superiority is a good move. Anyway it'd be kind of hard to defend the position that the government should be profiting from heroin sales.MikeDamone said:
You're all over the map and full of contradictions. Spend a bit more time on this and maybe we can have a decent and informed conversation.oregonblitzkrieg said:
I just watched the video. This debate isn't over. He makes many valid points, one of which is that legalizing these substances will produce more addicts. It will be easier to obtain and easier for children to get into it and become lifelong addicts. It will reduce the power of cartels and criminals, true. But it will only shift that power to the government, which will in effect become the cartel and the recipient of tax money generated by the sale of heroin, cocaine, etc. The government will then have an incentive to promote the use of destructive substances, and it will have a stake in getting people addicted young because it generates a new revenue flow for them. The government should not be in the business of telling us what we should do or not do to ourselves as long as we aren't harming other individuals. But it should also not be in the business of profiting from the sale of harmful substances. Even if they manage to regulate it so that it is 'safer,' it won't change the fact that it's highly addicting. Of course some people will latch onto this and say "then the government shouldn't be in the business of profiting from cupcake sales either, since sugar and sweets are addicting." That's a logical argument, but where does it end? Will lines be so blurred that safe heroin will be treated no differently that sugary cupcakes?MikeDamone said:Jesus. So you agree with most of this but still miss the point and still didn't watch the video.
Heroin isn't "in the shadows" and it is very easy to get.
The cyanide pill argument is a strawman, but assisted suicide is legal in many places. And making suicide illegal by any means prevents no one from doing it.
Good day sir.
You say heroin is easy to get. Maybe in slums like Seattle. I don't know where to find it. But I sure as fuck would know where to find it if I could buy it at the local Safeway.
And if you think legal prostitution increases stds then you clearly haven't done your homework. I'd love to see your stats on that. It's legal in many parts of the developed world so you should be able to provide a lot of data showing disease and prostitution going hand in hand. Look at how it's done and the results in places like Australia and Canada.
Person freedom, choice, and liberty is what all this comes down to. I always find conservatives to be caricatures of themselves. They want less government expect whether want it use the force of government to control people and shove their beliefs on others.
I'll leave the prostitution issue alone for now. But it makes sense that if its out in the open more people are going to be doing it. That hooker you're thinking about banging has been rammed by 20 more sex fiends because she's more visible. You can do the math. And if we're looking to Australia and Canada as examples of what we should become, we might as well mail it in and become a big France. Lets get more degenerate while adversaries like Russia get stronger. How did that work out for Rome?
First you say I'm a libtard now you're saying I'm a conservative. Make up your mind.
Except Damone and I aren't pals, associates, friends, or anything else..............it just boils down to you being a stupid asshole.
Go kill yourself, and do the world a favor. The only thing collapsing in this thread is any hint of credibility may have once had.
Was this a private debate thread? No, it wasn't - once again you prove what a dumb fucking donkey you are. First you say knave, then you say henchmen - you know they aren't remotely similar, don't you?
Should we get you a bullhorn - or perhaps a Mr. Microphone - so you can let even more people know? -
If we hand't let the americans living in Tejas talk the US government into going to war to steal it from Mexico, this wouldn't be our problem. It would just be an immigration issue internal to Mexico.
Oh... but some of you don't like history lessons.
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You seem to get angered quickly. It's too easy to fuck with you. Fishdick.dflea said:
I was attempting to do you a favor, you stupid son of a bitch. But hey, climb up on the rooftop and shout out what a stupid motherfucker you are - that way everyone will know, not just the people in your immediate vicinity.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Your intrusion into the debate amounted to nothing more than patting your internet buddy on the back. You didn't contribute any worthwhile arguments on the subject, which reduces you (in this thread) to one of Damone's henchmen. Your devotion to your leader is admirable. But you really should just stay on the sidelines. Maybe slice oranges and pour Gatorade to help keep your pal in the game?dflea said:
Oh I get it. I pointed out that Damone is making you look like the stupid asshole you are, so know I'm Damone's knave.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Are you still here? Shouldn't you be lubing Damone's rickshaw like a good little knave and preparing to retreat with him out of this thread when his position totally collapses?dflea said:
Truth is, you're just a fucking idiot. My mind is made up.oregonblitzkrieg said:
If heroin becomes legal the government will tax it, just like they do weed. No amount of arguing or reasoning on your part will change that fact. So you should just accept it as reality. That means the government will be profiting from getting us hooked on heroin and other drugs.MikeDamone said:
When did I say the government should profit from heroin sales. I said it should be legal. You automatically make the leap that the government needs to be involved. Look at the marijuana thread. I'm consistent in my comments regarding taxation. The failed war on drugs has left far more damage in its wake than drugs themselves could ever do. The damage has been immense and the resources wasted vast.oregonblitzkrieg said:
I understand. I wouldn't make a counterattack either when I'm running low on ammunition. Retreating under the guise of superiority is a good move. Anyway it'd be kind of hard to defend the position that the government should be profiting from heroin sales.MikeDamone said:
You're all over the map and full of contradictions. Spend a bit more time on this and maybe we can have a decent and informed conversation.oregonblitzkrieg said:
I just watched the video. This debate isn't over. He makes many valid points, one of which is that legalizing these substances will produce more addicts. It will be easier to obtain and easier for children to get into it and become lifelong addicts. It will reduce the power of cartels and criminals, true. But it will only shift that power to the government, which will in effect become the cartel and the recipient of tax money generated by the sale of heroin, cocaine, etc. The government will then have an incentive to promote the use of destructive substances, and it will have a stake in getting people addicted young because it generates a new revenue flow for them. The government should not be in the business of telling us what we should do or not do to ourselves as long as we aren't harming other individuals. But it should also not be in the business of profiting from the sale of harmful substances. Even if they manage to regulate it so that it is 'safer,' it won't change the fact that it's highly addicting. Of course some people will latch onto this and say "then the government shouldn't be in the business of profiting from cupcake sales either, since sugar and sweets are addicting." That's a logical argument, but where does it end? Will lines be so blurred that safe heroin will be treated no differently that sugary cupcakes?MikeDamone said:Jesus. So you agree with most of this but still miss the point and still didn't watch the video.
Heroin isn't "in the shadows" and it is very easy to get.
The cyanide pill argument is a strawman, but assisted suicide is legal in many places. And making suicide illegal by any means prevents no one from doing it.
Good day sir.
You say heroin is easy to get. Maybe in slums like Seattle. I don't know where to find it. But I sure as fuck would know where to find it if I could buy it at the local Safeway.
And if you think legal prostitution increases stds then you clearly haven't done your homework. I'd love to see your stats on that. It's legal in many parts of the developed world so you should be able to provide a lot of data showing disease and prostitution going hand in hand. Look at how it's done and the results in places like Australia and Canada.
Person freedom, choice, and liberty is what all this comes down to. I always find conservatives to be caricatures of themselves. They want less government expect whether want it use the force of government to control people and shove their beliefs on others.
I'll leave the prostitution issue alone for now. But it makes sense that if its out in the open more people are going to be doing it. That hooker you're thinking about banging has been rammed by 20 more sex fiends because she's more visible. You can do the math. And if we're looking to Australia and Canada as examples of what we should become, we might as well mail it in and become a big France. Lets get more degenerate while adversaries like Russia get stronger. How did that work out for Rome?
First you say I'm a libtard now you're saying I'm a conservative. Make up your mind.
Except Damone and I aren't pals, associates, friends, or anything else..............it just boils down to you being a stupid asshole.
Go kill yourself, and do the world a favor. The only thing collapsing in this thread is any hint of credibility may have once had.
Was this a private debate thread? No, it wasn't - once again you prove what a dumb fucking donkey you are. First you say knave, then you say henchmen - you know they aren't remotely similar, don't you?
Should we get you a bullhorn - or perhaps a Mr. Microphone - so you can let even more people know? -
I like to bitch about stealing territory from a nation who stole it from it's natives first.OZONE said:If we hand't let the americans living in Tejas talk the US government into going to war to steal it from Mexico, this wouldn't be our problem. It would just be an immigration issue internal to Mexico.
Oh... but some of you don't like history lessons.
#FuckImperialists
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You are picking a fight with the wrong person dude.oregonblitzkrieg said:
You seem to get angered quickly. It's too easy to fuck with you. Fishdick.dflea said:
I was attempting to do you a favor, you stupid son of a bitch. But hey, climb up on the rooftop and shout out what a stupid motherfucker you are - that way everyone will know, not just the people in your immediate vicinity.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Your intrusion into the debate amounted to nothing more than patting your internet buddy on the back. You didn't contribute any worthwhile arguments on the subject, which reduces you (in this thread) to one of Damone's henchmen. Your devotion to your leader is admirable. But you really should just stay on the sidelines. Maybe slice oranges and pour Gatorade to help keep your pal in the game?dflea said:
Oh I get it. I pointed out that Damone is making you look like the stupid asshole you are, so know I'm Damone's knave.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Are you still here? Shouldn't you be lubing Damone's rickshaw like a good little knave and preparing to retreat with him out of this thread when his position totally collapses?dflea said:
Truth is, you're just a fucking idiot. My mind is made up.oregonblitzkrieg said:
If heroin becomes legal the government will tax it, just like they do weed. No amount of arguing or reasoning on your part will change that fact. So you should just accept it as reality. That means the government will be profiting from getting us hooked on heroin and other drugs.MikeDamone said:
When did I say the government should profit from heroin sales. I said it should be legal. You automatically make the leap that the government needs to be involved. Look at the marijuana thread. I'm consistent in my comments regarding taxation. The failed war on drugs has left far more damage in its wake than drugs themselves could ever do. The damage has been immense and the resources wasted vast.oregonblitzkrieg said:
I understand. I wouldn't make a counterattack either when I'm running low on ammunition. Retreating under the guise of superiority is a good move. Anyway it'd be kind of hard to defend the position that the government should be profiting from heroin sales.MikeDamone said:
You're all over the map and full of contradictions. Spend a bit more time on this and maybe we can have a decent and informed conversation.oregonblitzkrieg said:
I just watched the video. This debate isn't over. He makes many valid points, one of which is that legalizing these substances will produce more addicts. It will be easier to obtain and easier for children to get into it and become lifelong addicts. It will reduce the power of cartels and criminals, true. But it will only shift that power to the government, which will in effect become the cartel and the recipient of tax money generated by the sale of heroin, cocaine, etc. The government will then have an incentive to promote the use of destructive substances, and it will have a stake in getting people addicted young because it generates a new revenue flow for them. The government should not be in the business of telling us what we should do or not do to ourselves as long as we aren't harming other individuals. But it should also not be in the business of profiting from the sale of harmful substances. Even if they manage to regulate it so that it is 'safer,' it won't change the fact that it's highly addicting. Of course some people will latch onto this and say "then the government shouldn't be in the business of profiting from cupcake sales either, since sugar and sweets are addicting." That's a logical argument, but where does it end? Will lines be so blurred that safe heroin will be treated no differently that sugary cupcakes?MikeDamone said:Jesus. So you agree with most of this but still miss the point and still didn't watch the video.
Heroin isn't "in the shadows" and it is very easy to get.
The cyanide pill argument is a strawman, but assisted suicide is legal in many places. And making suicide illegal by any means prevents no one from doing it.
Good day sir.
You say heroin is easy to get. Maybe in slums like Seattle. I don't know where to find it. But I sure as fuck would know where to find it if I could buy it at the local Safeway.
And if you think legal prostitution increases stds then you clearly haven't done your homework. I'd love to see your stats on that. It's legal in many parts of the developed world so you should be able to provide a lot of data showing disease and prostitution going hand in hand. Look at how it's done and the results in places like Australia and Canada.
Person freedom, choice, and liberty is what all this comes down to. I always find conservatives to be caricatures of themselves. They want less government expect whether want it use the force of government to control people and shove their beliefs on others.
I'll leave the prostitution issue alone for now. But it makes sense that if its out in the open more people are going to be doing it. That hooker you're thinking about banging has been rammed by 20 more sex fiends because she's more visible. You can do the math. And if we're looking to Australia and Canada as examples of what we should become, we might as well mail it in and become a big France. Lets get more degenerate while adversaries like Russia get stronger. How did that work out for Rome?
First you say I'm a libtard now you're saying I'm a conservative. Make up your mind.
Except Damone and I aren't pals, associates, friends, or anything else..............it just boils down to you being a stupid asshole.
Go kill yourself, and do the world a favor. The only thing collapsing in this thread is any hint of credibility may have once had.
Was this a private debate thread? No, it wasn't - once again you prove what a dumb fucking donkey you are. First you say knave, then you say henchmen - you know they aren't remotely similar, don't you?
Should we get you a bullhorn - or perhaps a Mr. Microphone - so you can let even more people know?
