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  • MontlakeBridgeTroll
    MontlakeBridgeTroll Member Posts: 925

    alumni94 said:

    Let's watch if the racist white people will riot and burn down stuff now.

    Yeah because white people in the USA have no history at all of rioting, murdering minorities, and burning shit down.

    No history at all.

    None.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_massacre

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching_in_the_United_States

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle_riot_of_1886


    I could go on but I think you get the idea. Well actually you might not get the idea. But I think anybody with an IQ over 80 does.
    What about the crusades!1!!
    What about Janurary


  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    alumni94 said:

    Let's watch if the racist white people will riot and burn down stuff now.

    Yeah because white people in the USA have no history at all of rioting, murdering minorities, and burning shit down.

    No history at all.

    None.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_massacre

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching_in_the_United_States

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle_riot_of_1886


    I could go on but I think you get the idea. Well actually you might not get the idea. But I think anybody with an IQ over 80 does.
    What about the crusades!1!!
    What about Janurary


    But for the fact that no minority was murdered there, and the only person who was murdered was a white woman shot by a black guy you fucking nailed it.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,436 Founders Club

    alumni94 said:

    Let's watch if the racist white people will riot and burn down stuff now.

    Yeah because white people in the USA have no history at all of rioting, murdering minorities, and burning shit down.

    No history at all.

    None.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_massacre

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching_in_the_United_States

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle_riot_of_1886


    I could go on but I think you get the idea. Well actually you might not get the idea. But I think anybody with an IQ over 80 does.
    What about the crusades!1!!
    WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU ?!
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Not surprised. This decision didn't really matter, other than the rioting, because it's going to be appealed so LIPO. The guy wasn't going to get a fair trial. There is no way anyone can convince me he intended to kill Floyd.

    The evidence is overwhelming that black people don’t get fair trials in America. But fair trials aren’t a problem until a cop puts his knee on someone’s neck for 9 minutes.
    Is it possible that some people are consistent advocates of fair trials, regardless of circumstance?
    Of course. I had a conservative friend express to me that he thought it was clear Chauvin was guilty but he was concerned about the fairness of the trial. Friend, not former friend.

    But a lot of people on the right reject any notion that black people don’t get fair trials. If someone doesn’t think it’s possible that black people aren’t getting fair trials but they bitch about the fairness of this trial, there might be a reason for that. A crystal clear, confederate flag in the capitol, reason.
    @OJSimpsonDawg, true?

    Money makes the most difference

    Poor people get @HHusky

    Rich black kids are more likely to go to jail than poor white kids. Money makes the most difference though.
    Link?
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/03/23/poor-white-kids-are-less-likely-to-go-to-prison-than-rich-black-kids/?outputType=amp
    Firewall protected and what do you want to bet that they compare apples to dog shit? Black Kid with multiple priors gets busted for robbery. White Kid with no priors gets busted for robbery. See, the black kid got sent to prison and the white kids got probation. Racism!!!!
    Those things are accounted for in the studies.
    Since you're a proven liar and your source isn't publicly accessible I don't believe you.
    Well, you also believe the people doing criminal justice studies aren’t smart enough to realize there’s different types of crimes so I can live with this.
    Oh I think they're smart enough, I also know they're dishonest enough to compare apples to dogshit in order sway gullible dipshits like you.
  • HairyBallsDawg
    HairyBallsDawg Member Posts: 1,075
    SFGbob said:

    alumni94 said:

    Let's watch if the racist white people will riot and burn down stuff now.

    Yeah because white people in the USA have no history at all of rioting, murdering minorities, and burning shit down.

    No history at all.

    None.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_massacre

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching_in_the_United_States

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle_riot_of_1886


    I could go on but I think you get the idea. Well actually you might not get the idea. But I think anybody with an IQ over 80 does.
    What about the crusades!1!!
    What about Janurary


    But for the fact that no minority was murdered there, and the only person who was murdered was a white woman shot by a black guy you fucking nailed it.
    The question that started this was when will white people riot. Why are you trying to move the goal posts?
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    One last thought before heading to a soon to be forbidden again outdoor gathering. Socialists and communists, don’t shit on all the cops. You’re really going to need them later.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    SFGbob said:

    alumni94 said:

    Let's watch if the racist white people will riot and burn down stuff now.

    Yeah because white people in the USA have no history at all of rioting, murdering minorities, and burning shit down.

    No history at all.

    None.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_massacre

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching_in_the_United_States

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle_riot_of_1886


    I could go on but I think you get the idea. Well actually you might not get the idea. But I think anybody with an IQ over 80 does.
    What about the crusades!1!!
    What about Janurary


    But for the fact that no minority was murdered there, and the only person who was murdered was a white woman shot by a black guy you fucking nailed it.
    The question that started this was when will white people riot. Why are you trying to move the goal posts?
    Yeah because white people in the USA have no history at all of rioting, murdering minorities, and burning shit down.

    Why are you? No murdered minorities and no shit burned down on Jan 6th. Next!!!!
  • HairyBallsDawg
    HairyBallsDawg Member Posts: 1,075
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    alumni94 said:

    Let's watch if the racist white people will riot and burn down stuff now.

    Yeah because white people in the USA have no history at all of rioting, murdering minorities, and burning shit down.

    No history at all.

    None.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_massacre

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching_in_the_United_States

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle_riot_of_1886


    I could go on but I think you get the idea. Well actually you might not get the idea. But I think anybody with an IQ over 80 does.
    What about the crusades!1!!
    What about Janurary


    But for the fact that no minority was murdered there, and the only person who was murdered was a white woman shot by a black guy you fucking nailed it.
    The question that started this was when will white people riot. Why are you trying to move the goal posts?
    Yeah because white people in the USA have no history at all of rioting, murdering minorities, and burning shit down.

    Why are you? No murdered minorities and no shit burned down on Jan 6th. Next!!!!
    That wasn't the top of the quote chain.

    Try harder or just admit you are a lying fuck that hates honesty.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    edited April 2021

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    alumni94 said:

    Let's watch if the racist white people will riot and burn down stuff now.

    Yeah because white people in the USA have no history at all of rioting, murdering minorities, and burning shit down.

    No history at all.

    None.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_massacre

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching_in_the_United_States

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle_riot_of_1886


    I could go on but I think you get the idea. Well actually you might not get the idea. But I think anybody with an IQ over 80 does.
    What about the crusades!1!!
    What about Janurary


    But for the fact that no minority was murdered there, and the only person who was murdered was a white woman shot by a black guy you fucking nailed it.
    The question that started this was when will white people riot. Why are you trying to move the goal posts?
    Yeah because white people in the USA have no history at all of rioting, murdering minorities, and burning shit down.

    Why are you? No murdered minorities and no shit burned down on Jan 6th. Next!!!!
    That wasn't the top of the quote chain.

    Try harder or just admit you are a lying fuck that hates honesty.
    That was the example you fucking provided. You expanded the quote beyond rioting not me. Hell my response that you initially quoted wasn't even too you. Fuck off.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    SFGbob said:

    If you're really interested in the topic this is pretty good source. Kobe as always is full of shit. The racial disparities in sentencing can be explained by many factors. Some have to do with gang enhancements. Not a lot of white kids in gangs. Selling drugs near a school will also get you an enhancement. Much more likely in an urban area than in a rural area. Prior criminal history is the most important, and no. Most of the studies don't take it into account when making a comparison.

    When your answer to every question is "Systemic white racism" it's hardly shocking when you see ever racial disparity through that very same lens.

    https://www.ussc.gov/sites/default/files/pdf/research-and-publications/research-projects-and-surveys/miscellaneous/15-year-study/chap4.pdf

    The fun thing about this is it’s from 2004. And most importantly before 2005. See that’s when the Supreme Court made a ruling in the United States vs Booker, that allowed judges significantly more discretion in sentencing, making it easier to impose harsher and more lenient sentences. Guess what all the reports on the USSC say since then?

    Link a USSC report from the last 10 years, Bob. I fucking dare you.
  • HairyBallsDawg
    HairyBallsDawg Member Posts: 1,075
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    alumni94 said:

    Let's watch if the racist white people will riot and burn down stuff now.

    Yeah because white people in the USA have no history at all of rioting, murdering minorities, and burning shit down.

    No history at all.

    None.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_massacre

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching_in_the_United_States

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle_riot_of_1886


    I could go on but I think you get the idea. Well actually you might not get the idea. But I think anybody with an IQ over 80 does.
    What about the crusades!1!!
    What about Janurary


    But for the fact that no minority was murdered there, and the only person who was murdered was a white woman shot by a black guy you fucking nailed it.
    The question that started this was when will white people riot. Why are you trying to move the goal posts?
    Yeah because white people in the USA have no history at all of rioting, murdering minorities, and burning shit down.

    Why are you? No murdered minorities and no shit burned down on Jan 6th. Next!!!!
    That wasn't the top of the quote chain.

    Try harder or just admit you are a lying fuck that hates honesty.
    That was the example you fucking provided. You expanded the quote beyond rioting not me. Hell my response that you initially quoted wasn't even too you. Fuck off.
    Are you a cop?

    Or do you just have the low IQ of an average cop?
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    SFGbob said:

    If you're really interested in the topic this is pretty good source. Kobe as always is full of shit. The racial disparities in sentencing can be explained by many factors. Some have to do with gang enhancements. Not a lot of white kids in gangs. Selling drugs near a school will also get you an enhancement. Much more likely in an urban area than in a rural area. Prior criminal history is the most important, and no. Most of the studies don't take it into account when making a comparison.

    When your answer to every question is "Systemic white racism" it's hardly shocking when you see ever racial disparity through that very same lens.

    https://www.ussc.gov/sites/default/files/pdf/research-and-publications/research-projects-and-surveys/miscellaneous/15-year-study/chap4.pdf

    The fun thing about this is it’s from 2004. And most importantly before 2005. See that’s when the Supreme Court made a ruling in the United States vs Booker, that allowed judges significantly more discretion in sentencing, making it easier to impose harsher and more lenient sentences. Guess what all the reports on the USSC say since then?

    Link a USSC report from the last 10 years, Bob. I fucking dare you.
    They say the racial disparity in sentencing has decreased and that many of the same factors that explained the disparities then are still responsible for them now. Like gang enhancements and past criminal activity.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    alumni94 said:

    Let's watch if the racist white people will riot and burn down stuff now.

    Yeah because white people in the USA have no history at all of rioting, murdering minorities, and burning shit down.

    No history at all.

    None.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_massacre

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching_in_the_United_States

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle_riot_of_1886


    I could go on but I think you get the idea. Well actually you might not get the idea. But I think anybody with an IQ over 80 does.
    What about the crusades!1!!
    What about Janurary


    But for the fact that no minority was murdered there, and the only person who was murdered was a white woman shot by a black guy you fucking nailed it.
    The question that started this was when will white people riot. Why are you trying to move the goal posts?
    Yeah because white people in the USA have no history at all of rioting, murdering minorities, and burning shit down.

    Why are you? No murdered minorities and no shit burned down on Jan 6th. Next!!!!
    That wasn't the top of the quote chain.

    Try harder or just admit you are a lying fuck that hates honesty.
    That was the example you fucking provided. You expanded the quote beyond rioting not me. Hell my response that you initially quoted wasn't even too you. Fuck off.
    Are you a cop?

    Or do you just have the low IQ of an average cop?
    White flag.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter
    edited April 2021

    Not surprised. This decision didn't really matter, other than the rioting, because it's going to be appealed so LIPO. The guy wasn't going to get a fair trial. There is no way anyone can convince me he intended to kill Floyd.

    The evidence is overwhelming that black people don’t get fair trials in America. But fair trials aren’t a problem until a cop puts his knee on someone’s neck for 9 minutes.
    So instead of everyone getting fair trials the cop should get an unfair trial because black people get unfair trials? How about you focus on black people getting fair trials rather than retribution?
    It’s not an unfair trial because you disagree with the verdict.

    There’s no retribution. There’s a 9 minute video of Chauvin killing George Floyd.
    You said it's fine if the cop gets an unfair trial because black people get unfair trials. Backwards logic, pal.
    No I didn’t. You made up an argument in your head based on the retard shit all the retards around you say about the left.
    Please expound upon your eloquent argument. I thought liberals like yourself didn't use the word retard. It's like I'm talking with a 14 year old.
    Like?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,801 Founders Club

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Not surprised. This decision didn't really matter, other than the rioting, because it's going to be appealed so LIPO. The guy wasn't going to get a fair trial. There is no way anyone can convince me he intended to kill Floyd.

    The evidence is overwhelming that black people don’t get fair trials in America. But fair trials aren’t a problem until a cop puts his knee on someone’s neck for 9 minutes.
    Is it possible that some people are consistent advocates of fair trials, regardless of circumstance?
    Of course. I had a conservative friend express to me that he thought it was clear Chauvin was guilty but he was concerned about the fairness of the trial. Friend, not former friend.

    But a lot of people on the right reject any notion that black people don’t get fair trials. If someone doesn’t think it’s possible that black people aren’t getting fair trials but they bitch about the fairness of this trial, there might be a reason for that. A crystal clear, confederate flag in the capitol, reason.
    @OJSimpsonDawg, true?

    Money makes the most difference

    Poor people get @HHusky

    Rich black kids are more likely to go to jail than poor white kids. Money makes the most difference though.
    Link?
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/03/23/poor-white-kids-are-less-likely-to-go-to-prison-than-rich-black-kids/?outputType=amp
    Firewall protected and what do you want to bet that they compare apples to dog shit? Black Kid with multiple priors gets busted for robbery. White Kid with no priors gets busted for robbery. See, the black kid got sent to prison and the white kids got probation. Racism!!!!
    Those things are accounted for in the studies.
    Since you're a proven liar and your source isn't publicly accessible I don't believe you.
    Well, you also believe the people doing criminal justice studies aren’t smart enough to realize there’s different types of crimes so I can live with this.
    Your source is an opinion not facts
    2% of poor white kids and 10% of rich black kids going to jail isn’t an opinion.

    Whatever our fucked up relationship is now, I put it on all of our old shit that the numbers on this are really bad. That they account for income, that they account for the types of crimes and criminal records. It’s really bad. I know you can’t go here because our justice SYSTEM giving unequal outcome based on RACE, kinda hurts your whole “no systemic racism” bit but it’s real and anyone with half a brain can see it.
    You just have no data to back it up

    Unequal outcome based on income is provable

    I have no vested interest in proving the state to be pure

    I'll leave that to the statist worshippers like you who want to give the state total control of your life

    Good luck
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Not surprised. This decision didn't really matter, other than the rioting, because it's going to be appealed so LIPO. The guy wasn't going to get a fair trial. There is no way anyone can convince me he intended to kill Floyd.

    The evidence is overwhelming that black people don’t get fair trials in America. But fair trials aren’t a problem until a cop puts his knee on someone’s neck for 9 minutes.
    Is it possible that some people are consistent advocates of fair trials, regardless of circumstance?
    Of course. I had a conservative friend express to me that he thought it was clear Chauvin was guilty but he was concerned about the fairness of the trial. Friend, not former friend.

    But a lot of people on the right reject any notion that black people don’t get fair trials. If someone doesn’t think it’s possible that black people aren’t getting fair trials but they bitch about the fairness of this trial, there might be a reason for that. A crystal clear, confederate flag in the capitol, reason.
    @OJSimpsonDawg, true?

    Money makes the most difference

    Poor people get @HHusky

    Rich black kids are more likely to go to jail than poor white kids. Money makes the most difference though.
    Link?
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/03/23/poor-white-kids-are-less-likely-to-go-to-prison-than-rich-black-kids/?outputType=amp
    Firewall protected and what do you want to bet that they compare apples to dog shit? Black Kid with multiple priors gets busted for robbery. White Kid with no priors gets busted for robbery. See, the black kid got sent to prison and the white kids got probation. Racism!!!!
    Those things are accounted for in the studies.
    Since you're a proven liar and your source isn't publicly accessible I don't believe you.
    Well, you also believe the people doing criminal justice studies aren’t smart enough to realize there’s different types of crimes so I can live with this.
    Your source is an opinion not facts
    2% of poor white kids and 10% of rich black kids going to jail isn’t an opinion.

    Whatever our fucked up relationship is now, I put it on all of our old shit that the numbers on this are really bad. That they account for income, that they account for the types of crimes and criminal records. It’s really bad. I know you can’t go here because our justice SYSTEM giving unequal outcome based on RACE, kinda hurts your whole “no systemic racism” bit but it’s real and anyone with half a brain can see it.
    You just have no data to back it up

    Unequal outcome based on income is provable

    I have no vested interest in proving the state to be pure

    I'll leave that to the statist worshippers like you who want to give the state total control of your life

    Good luck
    Great point. The system is racist and discriminates against black people! Lets give more power and money to the system!!!!
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter
    edited April 2021

    Not surprised. This decision didn't really matter, other than the rioting, because it's going to be appealed so LIPO. The guy wasn't going to get a fair trial. There is no way anyone can convince me he intended to kill Floyd.

    The evidence is overwhelming that black people don’t get fair trials in America. But fair trials aren’t a problem until a cop puts his knee on someone’s neck for 9 minutes.
    Is it possible that some people are consistent advocates of fair trials, regardless of circumstance?
    Of course. I had a conservative friend express to me that he thought it was clear Chauvin was guilty but he was concerned about the fairness of the trial. Friend, not former friend.

    But a lot of people on the right reject any notion that black people don’t get fair trials. If someone doesn’t think it’s possible that black people aren’t getting fair trials but they bitch about the fairness of this trial, there might be a reason for that. A crystal clear, confederate flag in the capitol, reason.
    @OJSimpsonDawg, true?

    Money makes the most difference

    Poor people get @HHusky

  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165

    Not surprised. This decision didn't really matter, other than the rioting, because it's going to be appealed so LIPO. The guy wasn't going to get a fair trial. There is no way anyone can convince me he intended to kill Floyd.

    Intention to kill is not required for 2nd degree murder.
    Then how is it a murder?

    You don't know what you're talking about.
    That's the law. Pretty cut and dry shit. Unless you're a fucking idiot.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    How are the kurds taking it?
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam

    Not surprised. This decision didn't really matter, other than the rioting, because it's going to be appealed so LIPO. The guy wasn't going to get a fair trial. There is no way anyone can convince me he intended to kill Floyd.

    Intention to kill is not required for 2nd degree murder.
    Then how is it a murder?

    You don't know what you're talking about.
    That's the law. Pretty cut and dry shit. Unless you're a fucking idiot.
    He went to the Foster School of Law.

    Very well read, I'm told.

    By him, but still.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter
    edited April 2021

    Not surprised. This decision didn't really matter, other than the rioting, because it's going to be appealed so LIPO. The guy wasn't going to get a fair trial. There is no way anyone can convince me he intended to kill Floyd.

    Intention to kill is not required for 2nd degree murder.
    Then how is it a murder?

    You don't know what you're talking about.
    That's the law. Pretty cut and dry shit. Unless you're a fucking idiot.
    Hey Idiot and your butt-buddy @dflea:

    609.19 MURDER IN THE SECOND DEGREE.
    Subdivision 1.Intentional murder; drive-by shootings. Whoever does either of the following is guilty of murder in the second degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 40 years:
    (1) causes the death of a human being with intent to effect the death of that person or another, but without premeditation; or
    (2) causes the death of a human being while committing or attempting to commit a drive-by shooting in violation of section 609.66, subdivision 1e, under circumstances other than those described in section 609.185, paragraph (a), clause (3).

    So the question is, @GreenRiverGatorz and @dflea, my always-pressing inferior, How does my ass taste?
  • MontlakeBridgeTroll
    MontlakeBridgeTroll Member Posts: 925
    Sledog said:

    So I'm confused do the police and their supporters riot now?

    Good cops support this verdict so have no reason to riot.

    Bad cops will continue being bad cops though until all are fired or put in prison.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Not surprised. This decision didn't really matter, other than the rioting, because it's going to be appealed so LIPO. The guy wasn't going to get a fair trial. There is no way anyone can convince me he intended to kill Floyd.

    The evidence is overwhelming that black people don’t get fair trials in America. But fair trials aren’t a problem until a cop puts his knee on someone’s neck for 9 minutes.
    Is it possible that some people are consistent advocates of fair trials, regardless of circumstance?
    Of course. I had a conservative friend express to me that he thought it was clear Chauvin was guilty but he was concerned about the fairness of the trial. Friend, not former friend.

    But a lot of people on the right reject any notion that black people don’t get fair trials. If someone doesn’t think it’s possible that black people aren’t getting fair trials but they bitch about the fairness of this trial, there might be a reason for that. A crystal clear, confederate flag in the capitol, reason.
    @OJSimpsonDawg, true?

    Money makes the most difference

    Poor people get @HHusky

    Rich black kids are more likely to go to jail than poor white kids. Money makes the most difference though.
    Link?
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/03/23/poor-white-kids-are-less-likely-to-go-to-prison-than-rich-black-kids/?outputType=amp
    Firewall protected and what do you want to bet that they compare apples to dog shit? Black Kid with multiple priors gets busted for robbery. White Kid with no priors gets busted for robbery. See, the black kid got sent to prison and the white kids got probation. Racism!!!!
    Those things are accounted for in the studies.
    Since you're a proven liar and your source isn't publicly accessible I don't believe you.
    Well, you also believe the people doing criminal justice studies aren’t smart enough to realize there’s different types of crimes so I can live with this.
    Your source is an opinion not facts
    2% of poor white kids and 10% of rich black kids going to jail isn’t an opinion.

    Whatever our fucked up relationship is now, I put it on all of our old shit that the numbers on this are really bad. That they account for income, that they account for the types of crimes and criminal records. It’s really bad. I know you can’t go here because our justice SYSTEM giving unequal outcome based on RACE, kinda hurts your whole “no systemic racism” bit but it’s real and anyone with half a brain can see it.
    You just have no data to back it up

    Unequal outcome based on income is provable

    I have no vested interest in proving the state to be pure

    I'll leave that to the statist worshippers like you who want to give the state total control of your life

    Good luck
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/04/09/more-studies-showing-racial-disparities-criminal-justice-system/?outputType=amp

    141 studies demonstrating racial bias in the criminal justice system.

    You refusing to believe something doesn’t mean it hasn’t been proven.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    Not surprised. This decision didn't really matter, other than the rioting, because it's going to be appealed so LIPO. The guy wasn't going to get a fair trial. There is no way anyone can convince me he intended to kill Floyd.

    The evidence is overwhelming that black people don’t get fair trials in America. But fair trials aren’t a problem until a cop puts his knee on someone’s neck for 9 minutes.
    Is it possible that some people are consistent advocates of fair trials, regardless of circumstance?
    Of course. I had a conservative friend express to me that he thought it was clear Chauvin was guilty but he was concerned about the fairness of the trial. Friend, not former friend.

    But a lot of people on the right reject any notion that black people don’t get fair trials. If someone doesn’t think it’s possible that black people aren’t getting fair trials but they bitch about the fairness of this trial, there might be a reason for that. A crystal clear, confederate flag in the capitol, reason.
    Couple of questions:

    1) What if your friend said that he thought he was guilty of manslaughter but not murder - how would you have reacted?

    2) What if your friend said that based on the overall fairness of the trial (including some really questionable public comments leading up to the jury deliberating, which I'm sure that that's what he was referencing) he expects that the outcome to get overturn during the appeal process - how would you react?
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    jecornel said:
    I guarantee that you can count on one hand the number of times that a judge immediately after the verdict concedes to a defense attorney that they have a good avenue to get the case overturned
  • HairyBallsDawg
    HairyBallsDawg Member Posts: 1,075
    edited April 2021

    Not surprised. This decision didn't really matter, other than the rioting, because it's going to be appealed so LIPO. The guy wasn't going to get a fair trial. There is no way anyone can convince me he intended to kill Floyd.

    Intention to kill is not required for 2nd degree murder.
    Then how is it a murder?

    You don't know what you're talking about.
    That's the law. Pretty cut and dry shit. Unless you're a fucking idiot.
    How does my ass taste?
    Not flea or gatorz but I always assume your ass tastes like a combination of shit, SFGbob's dick, and whatever flavor lube you two use when you go at each other.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Not surprised. This decision didn't really matter, other than the rioting, because it's going to be appealed so LIPO. The guy wasn't going to get a fair trial. There is no way anyone can convince me he intended to kill Floyd.

    The evidence is overwhelming that black people don’t get fair trials in America. But fair trials aren’t a problem until a cop puts his knee on someone’s neck for 9 minutes.
    Is it possible that some people are consistent advocates of fair trials, regardless of circumstance?
    Of course. I had a conservative friend express to me that he thought it was clear Chauvin was guilty but he was concerned about the fairness of the trial. Friend, not former friend.

    But a lot of people on the right reject any notion that black people don’t get fair trials. If someone doesn’t think it’s possible that black people aren’t getting fair trials but they bitch about the fairness of this trial, there might be a reason for that. A crystal clear, confederate flag in the capitol, reason.
    @OJSimpsonDawg, true?

    Money makes the most difference

    Poor people get @HHusky

    Rich black kids are more likely to go to jail than poor white kids. Money makes the most difference though.
    Link?
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/03/23/poor-white-kids-are-less-likely-to-go-to-prison-than-rich-black-kids/?outputType=amp
    Firewall protected and what do you want to bet that they compare apples to dog shit? Black Kid with multiple priors gets busted for robbery. White Kid with no priors gets busted for robbery. See, the black kid got sent to prison and the white kids got probation. Racism!!!!
    Those things are accounted for in the studies.
    Since you're a proven liar and your source isn't publicly accessible I don't believe you.
    Well, you also believe the people doing criminal justice studies aren’t smart enough to realize there’s different types of crimes so I can live with this.
    Your source is an opinion not facts
    2% of poor white kids and 10% of rich black kids going to jail isn’t an opinion.

    Whatever our fucked up relationship is now, I put it on all of our old shit that the numbers on this are really bad. That they account for income, that they account for the types of crimes and criminal records. It’s really bad. I know you can’t go here because our justice SYSTEM giving unequal outcome based on RACE, kinda hurts your whole “no systemic racism” bit but it’s real and anyone with half a brain can see it.
    You just have no data to back it up

    Unequal outcome based on income is provable

    I have no vested interest in proving the state to be pure

    I'll leave that to the statist worshippers like you who want to give the state total control of your life

    Good luck
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/04/09/more-studies-showing-racial-disparities-criminal-justice-system/?outputType=amp

    141 studies demonstrating racial bias in the criminal justice system.

    You refusing to believe something doesn’t mean it hasn’t been proven.
    Another opinion piece.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter
    edited April 2021

    Not surprised. This decision didn't really matter, other than the rioting, because it's going to be appealed so LIPO. The guy wasn't going to get a fair trial. There is no way anyone can convince me he intended to kill Floyd.

    Intention to kill is not required for 2nd degree murder.
    Then how is it a murder?

    You don't know what you're talking about.
    That's the law. Pretty cut and dry shit. Unless you're a fucking idiot.
    How does my ass taste?
    Not flea or gatorz but I always assume your ass tastes like a combination of shit, SFGbob's dick, and whatever flavor lube you two use when you go at each other.
    Your devotion to @dflea's scrotum is noted.

    Nice handle, too. Press much?

    I'll leave you @dflea, @GreenRiverGatorz and @HairyBallsDawg "the faggot trio" to frantically google "Minnesota Second Degree Murder" while jerking each other off.

    As far as I'm concerned, we're done here, flyweights.

    Enjoy eating my shit.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    Not surprised. This decision didn't really matter, other than the rioting, because it's going to be appealed so LIPO. The guy wasn't going to get a fair trial. There is no way anyone can convince me he intended to kill Floyd.

    The evidence is overwhelming that black people don’t get fair trials in America. But fair trials aren’t a problem until a cop puts his knee on someone’s neck for 9 minutes.
    Is it possible that some people are consistent advocates of fair trials, regardless of circumstance?
    Of course. I had a conservative friend express to me that he thought it was clear Chauvin was guilty but he was concerned about the fairness of the trial. Friend, not former friend.

    But a lot of people on the right reject any notion that black people don’t get fair trials. If someone doesn’t think it’s possible that black people aren’t getting fair trials but they bitch about the fairness of this trial, there might be a reason for that. A crystal clear, confederate flag in the capitol, reason.
    @OJSimpsonDawg, true?

    I remember watching a crazy amount of the OJ Trial because it largely took place in the summer of 1994 and being out of school it was literally the only thing you watched on TV during the day when you were home for the summer

    When the case went to the jury, the outcome seemed pretty obvious to me and when people would ask me about it, they were incredulous that I'd have the following opinion:

    1) Do I think that OJ committed the murders - Yes

    2) Do I think that OJ committed the murders beyond a reasonable doubt - No

    Based on that, as the famous words go "if it don't fit you must acquit"

    There's obviously a lot of inequities in the judicial system and it would definitely be beneficial to clean up those inequities. But in high profile cases, the evidence is often there and really it comes down to applying the facts directly against the law.
  • HairyBallsDawg
    HairyBallsDawg Member Posts: 1,075

    Not surprised. This decision didn't really matter, other than the rioting, because it's going to be appealed so LIPO. The guy wasn't going to get a fair trial. There is no way anyone can convince me he intended to kill Floyd.

    Intention to kill is not required for 2nd degree murder.
    Then how is it a murder?

    You don't know what you're talking about.
    That's the law. Pretty cut and dry shit. Unless you're a fucking idiot.
    How does my ass taste?
    Not flea or gatorz but I always assume your ass tastes like a combination of shit, SFGbob's dick, and whatever flavor lube you two use when you go at each other.
    Your devotion to @dflea's scrotum is noted.

    Nice handle, too. Press much?

    I'll leave you @dflea, @GreenRiverGatorz and @HairyBallsDawg "the faggot trio" to frantically google "Minnesota Second Degree Murder" while jerking each other off.

    As far as I'm concerned, we're done here, flyweights.

    Enjoy eating my shit.
    Looks like one of the Trump Dick Suckers gang got triggered.

    LOL

    If you don't understand why 2nd degree murder is still murder maybe you can go Ask Jeeves?