Goodbye Gas Guzzlers!
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Ignorant rats, the little people kind, think they will be immune. Their rights will be taken away just like mine and yours. The wealthy elite and corrupt rat leadership will continue with their 1000X carbon footprints and their gas guzzling limousines. Maybe at that point the "woke" crowd will wake up and smell the corruption/socialism/fascism. Remember The Bitch's credo "legislate behavior".doogie said:Once the Government has forced the reduction of movement of people, freedom of movement is not coming back
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Limiting movement and resources for Little People so Essential people can enjoy a happier life
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Will DNC elites still arrive in 10 Escalade Motorcades?
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Just another reason to reduce my footprint eventually and move somewhere with a true abundance of golf courses
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North Carolina probably has the best combination of good golf, year round weather and sane government.Tequilla said:Just another reason to reduce my footprint eventually and move somewhere with a true abundance of golf courses
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You got it right. They want autonomous cars, powered by the 5g "Internet of Things" Control Grid, so they know where you all at all times, so they control where you can and can't go. If they don't want you going to a particular location, they will be able to prevent you from doing so in your autonomous car, by shutting down its ability to get you there. Your gas powered vehicles will be banned, and gas will become a black market commodity, if it is available at all. If you get caught driving your gas powered car, you will of course be arrested, and the car will be taken. You will probably be spirited away to a "re-education camp" as well.Bendintheriver said:
OBK actually has a cogent point (!). What people don't understand is that the left is taking this moment in time to correct your behavior, actually force you to live like they want you to live. They set the 2030 bar, now they are going to set about taxing the shit out of you in order to set up this infrastructure. They will make it so expensive to drive a gas burning car that most people will be forced to do without. Like the bitch Hillary has said "you legislate behavior". The short term goal though is to tax the hell out of you to pay for their fucked up utopian rat dream and of course that money will go to every rat vote buying scheme you can imagine and a small portion will go to preparing infrastructure for electric cars.BleachedAnusDawg said:Was just talking about this issue yesterday in relation to CA and their 2035 mandate to ban new gas vehicles. WA State and Inslee going full-retard is not surprising.
The infrastructure is not anywhere ready to handle an electric vehicle grid and won't be close in 9 years because "government." Probably more important than that, though, is that there are nowhere close to enough reasonable options for people to buy EV's for less than $40k and that isn't going to change by 2030. EV's are still less than 2% of total market share for new vehicle sales.
Personally, I think EV's are still 15-20 years away from being cost-effective replacements for gas-powered vehicles. More than likely in 2028 or 2029 the legislature will be forced to push this back when reality sinks in.
Think about the cost of the infrastructure. Replacing every gas station X100. 6 fossil fuel pumps can put hundreds of cars back on the road per day, 5 minute fill ups per car. Tesla's currently take between 6-10 hours for a full charge. Other cars can take as little as 30 minutes. You do the math. We are talking hundreds of billions in infrastructure in WA State alone. Try that on the California power grid in July. Ain't going to happen. The whole thing is a pipe dream
They are already talking about monitoring your personal and commercial fuel use and mileage and taxing the shit out of you for it. That technology is already there. Guess what that same technology also does other than monitoring miles and gas? It tells the bad guys where you are, where you are going, when you will get there and how long you stayed. The potential of this tech for "monitoring miles and fuel usage" can be a serious infringement on your rights. This is something that was talked about in the 90's by rats in DC, I know because I sat through a seminar on it when I was lobbying for the NSDA. The rats in attendance got all their tingly spots engorged just thinking about the possibilities and I am not exaggerating. They loved what they were hearing and the potential of using that data to win elections.
The ulterior motives for monitoring your usage are evil. The rat wire tapping of Trumps campaign HQ looks like tinker toys compared to what the rats have in store for all of us over the next 10 years if we let them pull this shit on the innocent American public.
It's all about total control. They want to control everything, from the DNA inside your body, to your thoughts, to your ability to travel when and where you want to go. "Everything will be connected to the 'Internet of Things,' including people and animals. -
Can an EV even make it from Seattle to, say, Spokane on one charge?BleachedAnusDawg said:Was just talking about this issue yesterday in relation to CA and their 2035 mandate to ban new gas vehicles. WA State and Inslee going full-retard is not surprising.
The infrastructure is not anywhere ready to handle an electric vehicle grid and won't be close in 9 years because "government." Probably more important than that, though, is that there are nowhere close to enough reasonable options for people to buy EV's for less than $40k and that isn't going to change by 2030. EV's are still less than 2% of total market share for new vehicle sales.
Personally, I think EV's are still 15-20 years away from being cost-effective replacements for gas-powered vehicles. More than likely in 2028 or 2029 the legislature will be forced to push this back when reality sinks in.
I don't see how the internal combustion engine is going to be replaced until they can solve for the issue of limited range. -
Another 1000 lb battery on the chassis might do it.YellowSnow said:
Can an EV even make it from Seattle to, say, Spokane on one charge?BleachedAnusDawg said:Was just talking about this issue yesterday in relation to CA and their 2035 mandate to ban new gas vehicles. WA State and Inslee going full-retard is not surprising.
The infrastructure is not anywhere ready to handle an electric vehicle grid and won't be close in 9 years because "government." Probably more important than that, though, is that there are nowhere close to enough reasonable options for people to buy EV's for less than $40k and that isn't going to change by 2030. EV's are still less than 2% of total market share for new vehicle sales.
Personally, I think EV's are still 15-20 years away from being cost-effective replacements for gas-powered vehicles. More than likely in 2028 or 2029 the legislature will be forced to push this back when reality sinks in.
I don't see how the internal combustion engine is going to be replaced until they can solve for the issue of limited range. -
Presupposes one has the proper travel papers to get through the pass checkpoints.YellowSnow said:
Can an EV even make it from Seattle to, say, Spokane on one charge?BleachedAnusDawg said:Was just talking about this issue yesterday in relation to CA and their 2035 mandate to ban new gas vehicles. WA State and Inslee going full-retard is not surprising.
The infrastructure is not anywhere ready to handle an electric vehicle grid and won't be close in 9 years because "government." Probably more important than that, though, is that there are nowhere close to enough reasonable options for people to buy EV's for less than $40k and that isn't going to change by 2030. EV's are still less than 2% of total market share for new vehicle sales.
Personally, I think EV's are still 15-20 years away from being cost-effective replacements for gas-powered vehicles. More than likely in 2028 or 2029 the legislature will be forced to push this back when reality sinks in.
I don't see how the internal combustion engine is going to be replaced until they can solve for the issue of limited range. -
Long-range Tesla's can make it. New Ford Mach-E can barely get there if you get the long-range version that starts at over $50k. There's no selection of inventory to choose from to do day-trip drives because you gotta get there AND back. And the charging without a high-voltage system installed at home (another expense) is excruciatingly slow (eg, Ford Mach-E is 3 miles of charging per hour on a 120v plug).YellowSnow said:
Can an EV even make it from Seattle to, say, Spokane on one charge?BleachedAnusDawg said:Was just talking about this issue yesterday in relation to CA and their 2035 mandate to ban new gas vehicles. WA State and Inslee going full-retard is not surprising.
The infrastructure is not anywhere ready to handle an electric vehicle grid and won't be close in 9 years because "government." Probably more important than that, though, is that there are nowhere close to enough reasonable options for people to buy EV's for less than $40k and that isn't going to change by 2030. EV's are still less than 2% of total market share for new vehicle sales.
Personally, I think EV's are still 15-20 years away from being cost-effective replacements for gas-powered vehicles. More than likely in 2028 or 2029 the legislature will be forced to push this back when reality sinks in.
I don't see how the internal combustion engine is going to be replaced until they can solve for the issue of limited range.
Laws like this are aspirational bullshit right now. There is zero math/logic that says the market and consumers are ready to go all-electric in 9 years. -
Humidity is a bitchPurpleThrobber said: -
My biggest issue with the EV and you can’t tell me that I need to wait an obscene amount of time to charge my vehicle to full capacityYellowSnow said:
Can an EV even make it from Seattle to, say, Spokane on one charge?BleachedAnusDawg said:Was just talking about this issue yesterday in relation to CA and their 2035 mandate to ban new gas vehicles. WA State and Inslee going full-retard is not surprising.
The infrastructure is not anywhere ready to handle an electric vehicle grid and won't be close in 9 years because "government." Probably more important than that, though, is that there are nowhere close to enough reasonable options for people to buy EV's for less than $40k and that isn't going to change by 2030. EV's are still less than 2% of total market share for new vehicle sales.
Personally, I think EV's are still 15-20 years away from being cost-effective replacements for gas-powered vehicles. More than likely in 2028 or 2029 the legislature will be forced to push this back when reality sinks in.
I don't see how the internal combustion engine is going to be replaced until they can solve for the issue of limited range.
As someone that regularly makes decent sized drives (to/from Texas last year as an example) ... the current limitations to EVs are non starters for me at present -
The solution that seems to make (more) sense are modular batteries that swapped for fully charged units instead waiting. But that entails it’s own challenges.
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Not sure where you are thinking of moving to NC, but it is not a year round golf destination. Got to move further South.Tequilla said:
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Humidity is fucked anywhere outside the high desert/mountain time zone when it gets hot enough.Tequilla said:
Humidity is a bitchPurpleThrobber said:
NC is just as humid in the summer as anywhere else on the eastern seaboard. Spend time in DC or Ballmer in the summer and you'll sweat your balls off.
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GrundleStiltzkin said:
The solution that seems to make (more) sense are modular batteries that swapped for fully charged units instead waiting. But that entails it’s own challenges.
The propane tank business model basically. Just don’t see it can work economically for the general retail fuel economy. Envision a scenario where trillions are invested to update infrastructure for EV as we know them today and then a technology that is obviously economically viable actually reveals itself and have to scrap all the EV charging stations.
That’s why you should wait for the free market replacement that can support itself without the crazy infrastructure spend. It’ll get here faster without a forced EV craze mandated by government that will bog us down.
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Pretty simple. You won’t be taking those trips anymore. Get it, yet?Tequilla said:
My biggest issue with the EV and you can’t tell me that I need to wait an obscene amount of time to charge my vehicle to full capacityYellowSnow said:
Can an EV even make it from Seattle to, say, Spokane on one charge?BleachedAnusDawg said:Was just talking about this issue yesterday in relation to CA and their 2035 mandate to ban new gas vehicles. WA State and Inslee going full-retard is not surprising.
The infrastructure is not anywhere ready to handle an electric vehicle grid and won't be close in 9 years because "government." Probably more important than that, though, is that there are nowhere close to enough reasonable options for people to buy EV's for less than $40k and that isn't going to change by 2030. EV's are still less than 2% of total market share for new vehicle sales.
Personally, I think EV's are still 15-20 years away from being cost-effective replacements for gas-powered vehicles. More than likely in 2028 or 2029 the legislature will be forced to push this back when reality sinks in.
I don't see how the internal combustion engine is going to be replaced until they can solve for the issue of limited range.
As someone that regularly makes decent sized drives (to/from Texas last year as an example) ... the current limitations to EVs are non starters for me at present -
The green new deal is just a watermelon.
Green on the outside but RED on the inside.
