Goodbye Gas Guzzlers!

thechatch said:

https://electrek.co/2021/04/15/washington-state-bans-gas-cars-by-2030-the-earliest-in-the-us/

Science and magic unicorn farts. It's all about virtue signaling and its a goal, but imagine not be able to relicense a 5 year old car after 2030? It's just not a ban on the sale of new gas vehicles. Once the sheep figure out that they are phucked out of thousands of dollars in vehicle value - things will get hot.

Will fuel be banned too? or will there be a sudden rash of out of state vehicle plates?

Where they getting all the power plants for this electric dream?

Will Inslee give everyone a free Tesla? These fucking nut jobs.

When I’m no longer poor I’m buying a truck with shit mileage.

I'm sorry for you guys.

Inslee is the Lionel Tryone Willingham of politics

jecornel said:

Will Inslee give everyone a free Tesla? These fucking nut jobs.

When I’m no longer poor I’m buying a truck with shit mileage.

A friend of mine in grad school was from Germany and upon graduating he bought the biggest gas guzzler he possibly could

I asked him why and he said because you can’t do that in Germany and felt like it

Was just talking about this issue yesterday in relation to CA and their 2035 mandate to ban new gas vehicles. WA State and Inslee going full-retard is not surprising.

The infrastructure is not anywhere ready to handle an electric vehicle grid and won't be close in 9 years because "government." Probably more important than that, though, is that there are nowhere close to enough reasonable options for people to buy EV's for less than $40k and that isn't going to change by 2030. EV's are still less than 2% of total market share for new vehicle sales.

Personally, I think EV's are still 15-20 years away from being cost-effective replacements for gas-powered vehicles. More than likely in 2028 or 2029 the legislature will be forced to push this back when reality sinks in.

Remember when the government mandated a switch from the horse and buggy to the internal combustion engine automobile and then paid for 170,000 gas stations in the US? Me either, but go talk to Race. The environmental devastation of switching to batteries and the cost to build up the US energy grid for all the new electrical production will bankrupt an already bankrupt country. If EV is the future, then let the future take care of itself. The actual CO2 savings of an EV is not 100%. You need to factor in the cost of mining and then assume a massive expansion of wind and solar to replace coal and natural gas electrical production. It's a shame we don't teach science and math in our schools anymore and our "teachers" our science and math illiterate along with our politicians.

https://peckford42.wordpress.com/2019/08/09/one-wind-turbine-takes-900-tons-of-steel-2500-tons-of-concrete-45-tons-of-plastic/

A single electric-car battery weighs about 1,000 pounds. Fabricating one requires digging up, moving and processing more than 500,000 pounds of raw materials somewhere on the planet. The alternative? Use gasoline and extract one-tenth as much total tonnage to deliver the same number of vehicle-miles over the battery’s seven-year life.

When electricity comes from wind or solar machines, every unit of energy produced, or mile traveled, requires far more materials and land than fossil fuels. That physical reality is literally visible: A wind or solar farm stretching to the horizon can be replaced by a handful of gas-fired turbines, each no bigger than a tractor-trailer.

Building one wind turbine requires 900 tons of steel, 2,500 tons of concrete and 45 tons of nonrecyclable plastic. Solar power requires even more cement, steel and glass—not to mention other metals. Global silver and indium mining will jump 250% and 1,200% respectively over the next couple of decades to provide the materials necessary to build the number of solar panels, the International Energy Agency forecasts. World demand for rare-earth elements—which aren’t rare but are rarely mined in America—will rise 300% to 1,000% by 2050 to meet the Paris green goals. If electric vehicles replace conventional cars, demand for cobalt and lithium, will rise more than 20-fold. That doesn’t count batteries to back up wind and solar grids.

Last year a Dutch government-sponsored study concluded that the Netherlands’ green ambitions alone would consume a major share of global minerals. “Exponential growth in [global] renewable energy production capacity is not possible with present-day technologies and annual metal production,” it concluded.

The demand for minerals likely won’t be met by mines in Europe or the U.S. Instead, much of the mining will take place in nations with oppressive labor practices. The Democratic Republic of the Congo produces 70% of the world’s raw cobalt, and China controls 90% of cobalt refining. The Sydney-based Institute for a Sustainable Future cautions that a global “gold” rush for minerals could take miners into “some remote wilderness areas [that] have maintained high biodiversity because they haven’t yet been disturbed.”

What’s more, mining and fabrication require the consumption of hydrocarbons. Building enough wind turbines to supply half the world’s electricity would require nearly two billion tons of coal to produce the concrete and steel, along with two billion barrels of oil to make the composite blades. More than 90% of the world’s solar panels are built in Asia on coal-heavy electric grids.

BleachedAnusDawg said:

Was just talking about this issue yesterday in relation to CA and their 2035 mandate to ban new gas vehicles. WA State and Inslee going full-retard is not surprising.

The infrastructure is not anywhere ready to handle an electric vehicle grid and won't be close in 9 years because "government." Probably more important than that, though, is that there are nowhere close to enough reasonable options for people to buy EV's for less than $40k and that isn't going to change by 2030. EV's are still less than 2% of total market share for new vehicle sales.

Personally, I think EV's are still 15-20 years away from being cost-effective replacements for gas-powered vehicles. More than likely in 2028 or 2029 the legislature will be forced to push this back when reality sinks in.

OBK actually has a cogent point (!). What people don't understand is that the left is taking this moment in time to correct your behavior, actually force you to live like they want you to live. They set the 2030 bar, now they are going to set about taxing the shit out of you in order to set up this infrastructure. They will make it so expensive to drive a gas burning car that most people will be forced to do without. Like the bitch Hillary has said "you legislate behavior". The short term goal though is to tax the hell out of you to pay for their fucked up utopian rat dream and of course that money will go to every rat vote buying scheme you can imagine and a small portion will go to preparing infrastructure for electric cars.

Think about the cost of the infrastructure. Replacing every gas station X100. 6 fossil fuel pumps can put hundreds of cars back on the road per day, 5 minute fill ups per car. Tesla's currently take between 6-10 hours for a full charge. Other cars can take as little as 30 minutes. You do the math. We are talking hundreds of billions in infrastructure in WA State alone. Try that on the California power grid in July. Ain't going to happen. The whole thing is a pipe dream

They are already talking about monitoring your personal and commercial fuel use and mileage and taxing the shit out of you for it. That technology is already there. Guess what that same technology also does other than monitoring miles and gas? It tells the bad guys where you are, where you are going, when you will get there and how long you stayed. The potential of this tech for "monitoring miles and fuel usage" can be a serious infringement on your rights. This is something that was talked about in the 90's by rats in DC, I know because I sat through a seminar on it when I was lobbying for the NSDA. The rats in attendance got all their tingly spots engorged just thinking about the possibilities and I am not exaggerating. They loved what they were hearing and the potential of using that data to win elections.

The ulterior motives for monitoring your usage are evil. The rat wire tapping of Trumps campaign HQ looks like tinker toys compared to what the rats have in store for all of us over the next 10 years if we let them pull this shit on the innocent American public.

WestlinnDuck said:

Leftards love this sh*t. You think the dazzler is concerned about the government monitoring me? That's not a bug that is a feature. Scratch a leftist, find a fascist.

I'm concerned the guy assigned to monitor you will die of boredom from reading your shit.

HHusky said:

WestlinnDuck said:

Leftards love this sh*t. You think the dazzler is concerned about the government monitoring me? That's not a bug that is a feature. Scratch a leftist, find a fascist.

I'm concerned the guy assigned to monitor you will die of boredom from reading your shit.

Coward-Snark POTD

Once the Government has forced the reduction of movement of people, freedom of movement is not coming back