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Blatant White Privilege and systemic white racism on display.
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Ok so they got redlined in the 30s, then spent the next 30 years without civil rights and when they finally got them, they still lived in the poorest neighborhoods in America. That’s 50 years ago, dude.Tequilla said:
I’m all for having real discussions about how to make things better for all Americans regardless of race, religion, gender, orientation, etcTheKobeStopper said:
That’s like a 500 page paper but I think a couple of the simplest answers to convey areFire_Marshall_Bill said:
Other minorities and Jews take like 10 years to build wealth after immigrating here. They weren't treated well. Explain that one.TheKobeStopper said:
60 years ago black people were still fighting for civil rights, their families have had no opportunity to accumulate wealth and most wealth in this country is inherited.Pitchfork51 said:
Systemic racism precludes colored people from knowing right and wrongTheKobeStopper said:Blatant White Privilege and systemic white racism on display
This implies that you think if black minors were charged as adults it would indicate systemic racism, no?
They got red lined in to inner cities where drugs and crime thrive, no matter what color you are, because that’s the easiest way to make money. The success rate of white kids coming out of the inner city isn’t good either.
Then we hammered them with the war on drugs.
We fund schools with property taxes, giving the 5 year old in the suburbs a systemic advantage over the 5 year old in the inner city.
So yes, systemic racism is why black people are disproportionately poor, why they’re less likely to grow up in a two parent household, why they have worse educational opportunities and anyone in those circumstances is more likely to commit violent crimes.
I know you hate the woke shit and there is a ton of ridiculousness. “Science is white supremacy” and “manspreading”. But we also have all of the substance. You can hate the woketards and still live over here in reality. Or you can go side with Bob, who thinks there’s a black gene that makes them run faster and not be able to do math.
1. Minorities like Jews and Asians are often immigrating here as middle class or higher and well educated. When that’s your starting point, it’s easier to succeed then when you literally started as slaves.
2. Other minorities always had black people as the lowest rung. A good example of this is the US appraisal industry ranked neighborhoods in the 1930s with A, B, C and D grades. Neighborhoods with Jewish residents would get Bs and Cs while neighborhoods with even a single black resident would get a D.
That said, bringing 2 examples out that in your own words are at minimum 80-90 years old and effectively 150+ years ago isn’t really solving anything today and going forward. What it does do though is look backwards and blame issues of today on the (not recent) past.
But if you want to go over the last 50 years we can talk about crack, we can talk about the war on drugs, we can talk black people getting targeted for sub prime mortgages before 2008. And I know “they made that choice” but a lot of people made bad choices and got bailed the fuck out. Not black people though, they didn’t get shit back. -
If you hate something, chances are very strong you won't succeed at doing it. It's that simple.TheKobeStopper said:
Are you blaming white people for brainwashing black people or black people for being brain washed?TurdBomber said:Or maybe, @TheKobeStopper, the other minorities just know a good country and a good deal when they see one, because they haven't spent their entire educations being brainwashed that the country they live in is irredeemably racist, and so racist that millions of non-white people stream across it's Southern border by the hundreds of thousands each year.
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1) 50 years is effectively 2 generations ... so let’s get that as a baselineTheKobeStopper said:
Ok so they got redlined in the 30s, then spent the next 30 years without civil rights and when they finally got them, they still lived in the poorest neighborhoods in America. That’s 50 years ago, dude.Tequilla said:
I’m all for having real discussions about how to make things better for all Americans regardless of race, religion, gender, orientation, etcTheKobeStopper said:
That’s like a 500 page paper but I think a couple of the simplest answers to convey areFire_Marshall_Bill said:
Other minorities and Jews take like 10 years to build wealth after immigrating here. They weren't treated well. Explain that one.TheKobeStopper said:
60 years ago black people were still fighting for civil rights, their families have had no opportunity to accumulate wealth and most wealth in this country is inherited.Pitchfork51 said:
Systemic racism precludes colored people from knowing right and wrongTheKobeStopper said:Blatant White Privilege and systemic white racism on display
This implies that you think if black minors were charged as adults it would indicate systemic racism, no?
They got red lined in to inner cities where drugs and crime thrive, no matter what color you are, because that’s the easiest way to make money. The success rate of white kids coming out of the inner city isn’t good either.
Then we hammered them with the war on drugs.
We fund schools with property taxes, giving the 5 year old in the suburbs a systemic advantage over the 5 year old in the inner city.
So yes, systemic racism is why black people are disproportionately poor, why they’re less likely to grow up in a two parent household, why they have worse educational opportunities and anyone in those circumstances is more likely to commit violent crimes.
I know you hate the woke shit and there is a ton of ridiculousness. “Science is white supremacy” and “manspreading”. But we also have all of the substance. You can hate the woketards and still live over here in reality. Or you can go side with Bob, who thinks there’s a black gene that makes them run faster and not be able to do math.
1. Minorities like Jews and Asians are often immigrating here as middle class or higher and well educated. When that’s your starting point, it’s easier to succeed then when you literally started as slaves.
2. Other minorities always had black people as the lowest rung. A good example of this is the US appraisal industry ranked neighborhoods in the 1930s with A, B, C and D grades. Neighborhoods with Jewish residents would get Bs and Cs while neighborhoods with even a single black resident would get a D.
That said, bringing 2 examples out that in your own words are at minimum 80-90 years old and effectively 150+ years ago isn’t really solving anything today and going forward. What it does do though is look backwards and blame issues of today on the (not recent) past.
But if you want to go over the last 50 years we can talk about crack, we can talk about the war on drugs, we can talk black people getting targeted for sub prime mortgages before 2008. And I know “they made that choice” but a lot of people made bad choices and got bailed the fuck out. Not black people though, they didn’t get shit back.
2) Regardless of anybody’s individual thoughts on drugs, they are illegal. While we can talk about the different penalties for drugs that have been in place (and there are clearly some atrocities there) ... at the end of the day drugs are a highly illegal and dangerous business. If you get into that business, you also know the consequences (good and bad) that come with it
3) Financial literacy should be a core part of our educational system ... I have sympathy for anybody that caught up in the mortgage debacle in 2008 ... that said where do you draw the line between personal accountability and blaming others? I’ll just say the odds of being successful in life are much higher (my personal observation) if you take more accountability for what happens to you vs blaming your circumstance
4) I’m not going to try to unpack who got bailed out and who didn’t. You can have banks go under without basically entering in a depression environment. That said people responsible for the banks being in those positions should face significant fines and prosecution. I know that I was all for the most minimal of bail out as possible. -
Imagine using drugs and letting purple buy holders they couldn't afford the payments on was stupid Shit. Like you.TheKobeStopper said:
Ok so they got redlined in the 30s, then spent the next 30 years without civil rights and when they finally got them, they still lived in the poorest neighborhoods in America. That’s 50 years ago, dude.Tequilla said:
I’m all for having real discussions about how to make things better for all Americans regardless of race, religion, gender, orientation, etcTheKobeStopper said:
That’s like a 500 page paper but I think a couple of the simplest answers to convey areFire_Marshall_Bill said:
Other minorities and Jews take like 10 years to build wealth after immigrating here. They weren't treated well. Explain that one.TheKobeStopper said:
60 years ago black people were still fighting for civil rights, their families have had no opportunity to accumulate wealth and most wealth in this country is inherited.Pitchfork51 said:
Systemic racism precludes colored people from knowing right and wrongTheKobeStopper said:Blatant White Privilege and systemic white racism on display
This implies that you think if black minors were charged as adults it would indicate systemic racism, no?
They got red lined in to inner cities where drugs and crime thrive, no matter what color you are, because that’s the easiest way to make money. The success rate of white kids coming out of the inner city isn’t good either.
Then we hammered them with the war on drugs.
We fund schools with property taxes, giving the 5 year old in the suburbs a systemic advantage over the 5 year old in the inner city.
So yes, systemic racism is why black people are disproportionately poor, why they’re less likely to grow up in a two parent household, why they have worse educational opportunities and anyone in those circumstances is more likely to commit violent crimes.
I know you hate the woke shit and there is a ton of ridiculousness. “Science is white supremacy” and “manspreading”. But we also have all of the substance. You can hate the woketards and still live over here in reality. Or you can go side with Bob, who thinks there’s a black gene that makes them run faster and not be able to do math.
1. Minorities like Jews and Asians are often immigrating here as middle class or higher and well educated. When that’s your starting point, it’s easier to succeed then when you literally started as slaves.
2. Other minorities always had black people as the lowest rung. A good example of this is the US appraisal industry ranked neighborhoods in the 1930s with A, B, C and D grades. Neighborhoods with Jewish residents would get Bs and Cs while neighborhoods with even a single black resident would get a D.
That said, bringing 2 examples out that in your own words are at minimum 80-90 years old and effectively 150+ years ago isn’t really solving anything today and going forward. What it does do though is look backwards and blame issues of today on the (not recent) past.
But if you want to go over the last 50 years we can talk about crack, we can talk about the war on drugs, we can talk black people getting targeted for sub prime mortgages before 2008. And I know “they made that choice” but a lot of people made bad choices and got bailed the fuck out. Not black people though, they didn’t get shit back. -
How about we do area help, not race help.TheKobeStopper said:
60 years ago black people were still fighting for civil rights, their families have had no opportunity to accumulate wealth and most wealth in this country is inherited.Pitchfork51 said:
Systemic racism precludes colored people from knowing right and wrongTheKobeStopper said:Blatant White Privilege and systemic white racism on display
This implies that you think if black minors were charged as adults it would indicate systemic racism, no?
They got red lined in to inner cities where drugs and crime thrive, no matter what color you are, because that’s the easiest way to make money. The success rate of white kids coming out of the inner city isn’t good either.
Then we hammered them with the war on drugs.
We fund schools with property taxes, giving the 5 year old in the suburbs a systemic advantage over the 5 year old in the inner city.
So yes, systemic racism is why black people are disproportionately poor, why they’re less likely to grow up in a two parent household, why they have worse educational opportunities and anyone in those circumstances is more likely to commit violent crimes.
I know you hate the woke shit and there is a ton of ridiculousness. “Science is white supremacy” and “manspreading”. But we also have all of the substance. You can hate the woketards and still live over here in reality. Or you can go side with Bob, who thinks there’s a black gene that makes them run faster and not be able to do math. -
You shut your whore mouth.Goduckies said:
How about we do area help, not race help.TheKobeStopper said:
60 years ago black people were still fighting for civil rights, their families have had no opportunity to accumulate wealth and most wealth in this country is inherited.Pitchfork51 said:
Systemic racism precludes colored people from knowing right and wrongTheKobeStopper said:Blatant White Privilege and systemic white racism on display
This implies that you think if black minors were charged as adults it would indicate systemic racism, no?
They got red lined in to inner cities where drugs and crime thrive, no matter what color you are, because that’s the easiest way to make money. The success rate of white kids coming out of the inner city isn’t good either.
Then we hammered them with the war on drugs.
We fund schools with property taxes, giving the 5 year old in the suburbs a systemic advantage over the 5 year old in the inner city.
So yes, systemic racism is why black people are disproportionately poor, why they’re less likely to grow up in a two parent household, why they have worse educational opportunities and anyone in those circumstances is more likely to commit violent crimes.
I know you hate the woke shit and there is a ton of ridiculousness. “Science is white supremacy” and “manspreading”. But we also have all of the substance. You can hate the woketards and still live over here in reality. Or you can go side with Bob, who thinks there’s a black gene that makes them run faster and not be able to do math. -
Look at Hunter Biden. Born with a silver spoon and look at what he has done with his golden ticket. At least he didn't kill anyone (that we know of) unlike Teddy the Swimmer.Tequilla said:
You’re missing the point I was making about mindsetTheKobeStopper said:
Those aren’t mindsets, they’re statistical facts.Tequilla said:
Here’s the problem that I have with this mindsetTheKobeStopper said:
In 2017 60% of wealth in the US had been inherited.PurpleThrobber said:
Just because you have a trust fund doesn’t mean ‘most wealth is inherited.’TheKobeStopper said:
60 years ago black people were still fighting for civil rights, their families have had no opportunity to accumulate wealth and most wealth in this country is inherited.Pitchfork51 said:
Systemic racism precludes colored people from knowing right and wrongTheKobeStopper said:Blatant White Privilege and systemic white racism on display
This implies that you think if black minors were charged as adults it would indicate systemic racism, no?
They got red lined in to inner cities where drugs and crime thrive, no matter what color you are, because that’s the easiest way to make money. The success rate of white kids coming out of the inner city isn’t good either.
Then we hammered them with the war on drugs.
We fund schools with property taxes, giving the 5 year old in the suburbs a systemic advantage over the 5 year old in the inner city.
So yes, systemic racism is why black people are disproportionately poor, why they’re less likely to grow up in a two parent household, why they have worse educational opportunities and anyone in those circumstances is more likely to commit violent crimes.
I know you hate the woke shit and there is a ton of ridiculousness. “Science is white supremacy” and “manspreading”. But we also have all of the substance. You can hate the woketards and still live over here in reality. Or you can go side with Bob, who thinks there’s a black gene that makes them run faster and not be able to do math.
No other country in the world has the opportunity to create wealth and prosperity like the US.
You’re full of shit.
The US is 27th in the world in social mobility.
You’re out of your fucking league, kid.
This idea that rich are rich and continue to be rich sounds great ... but the reality is that you can easily squander all of that by being an idiot
There’s no price tag for motivation and drive
As Throbber mentioned, there are paths to success in this country. Yes, circumstance can make things more challenging ... everybody with a brain would agree with this. But circumstance doesn’t preclude.
You’re right that there are systemic elements that cause gaps and we should be able to find solutions to close those gaps. Life is also full of choices and people need to be accountable for their choices as well. I know that’s probably controversial to you but reality is all of us are faced with choices daily. We all have accountability for our choices.
I don’t disagree with your last paragraph but context really matters. A lot of these choices are being made by kids. A 16 year old in the inner city whose mom works two jobs choosing between going to school and selling drugs is not where I want to draw the line and say “well you fucking chose that so tough shit”. And it is in no way comparable to the choices the kid in the suburbs gets to make.
Inheriting $$$ is great ... we all should be so lucky
But $$$ doesn’t give you motivation and drive
$$$ may give you an out from fucking up as long as you don’t fuck up too bad
But if $$$ is viewed as a sign of success and therefore you don’t have to do shit going forward ... well THAT mindset will turn one into a disaster
We all have choices ... we all have obstacles
I get your point about choosing gangs/drugs vs education and clearly that’s an issue in a number of neighborhoods in many cities. But again, we all have choices. Do you make short term or long term choices?
Life isn’t designed to be easy. Most of us have to make tough choices and make sacrifices to be successful.
Look at the stars on the Food Network. Only Giada came from money. Bobby went to trade school instead of college. What really is broken is our "public" education system. Time to defund it and spread the money where it can actually give our kids an actual practical education. -
Was there ever a source provided for the bullshit or did this claim come squarely from Kobe's ass?TheKobeStopper said:
In 2017 60% of wealth in the US had been inherited.PurpleThrobber said:
Just because you have a trust fund doesn’t mean ‘most wealth is inherited.’TheKobeStopper said:
60 years ago black people were still fighting for civil rights, their families have had no opportunity to accumulate wealth and most wealth in this country is inherited.Pitchfork51 said:
Systemic racism precludes colored people from knowing right and wrongTheKobeStopper said:Blatant White Privilege and systemic white racism on display
This implies that you think if black minors were charged as adults it would indicate systemic racism, no?
They got red lined in to inner cities where drugs and crime thrive, no matter what color you are, because that’s the easiest way to make money. The success rate of white kids coming out of the inner city isn’t good either.
Then we hammered them with the war on drugs.
We fund schools with property taxes, giving the 5 year old in the suburbs a systemic advantage over the 5 year old in the inner city.
So yes, systemic racism is why black people are disproportionately poor, why they’re less likely to grow up in a two parent household, why they have worse educational opportunities and anyone in those circumstances is more likely to commit violent crimes.
I know you hate the woke shit and there is a ton of ridiculousness. “Science is white supremacy” and “manspreading”. But we also have all of the substance. You can hate the woketards and still live over here in reality. Or you can go side with Bob, who thinks there’s a black gene that makes them run faster and not be able to do math.
No other country in the world has the opportunity to create wealth and prosperity like the US.
You’re full of shit.
The US is 27th in the world in social mobility.
You’re out of your fucking league, kid. -
Kobe thinks the government should inherit your hard earned money not your children.
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And Giada went on to leverage her “advantages” to be one of the foremost experts in her fieldWestlinnDuck said:
Look at Hunter Biden. Born with a silver spoon and look at what he has done with his golden ticket. At least he didn't kill anyone (that we know of) unlike Teddy the Swimmer.Tequilla said:
You’re missing the point I was making about mindsetTheKobeStopper said:
Those aren’t mindsets, they’re statistical facts.Tequilla said:
Here’s the problem that I have with this mindsetTheKobeStopper said:
In 2017 60% of wealth in the US had been inherited.PurpleThrobber said:
Just because you have a trust fund doesn’t mean ‘most wealth is inherited.’TheKobeStopper said:
60 years ago black people were still fighting for civil rights, their families have had no opportunity to accumulate wealth and most wealth in this country is inherited.Pitchfork51 said:
Systemic racism precludes colored people from knowing right and wrongTheKobeStopper said:Blatant White Privilege and systemic white racism on display
This implies that you think if black minors were charged as adults it would indicate systemic racism, no?
They got red lined in to inner cities where drugs and crime thrive, no matter what color you are, because that’s the easiest way to make money. The success rate of white kids coming out of the inner city isn’t good either.
Then we hammered them with the war on drugs.
We fund schools with property taxes, giving the 5 year old in the suburbs a systemic advantage over the 5 year old in the inner city.
So yes, systemic racism is why black people are disproportionately poor, why they’re less likely to grow up in a two parent household, why they have worse educational opportunities and anyone in those circumstances is more likely to commit violent crimes.
I know you hate the woke shit and there is a ton of ridiculousness. “Science is white supremacy” and “manspreading”. But we also have all of the substance. You can hate the woketards and still live over here in reality. Or you can go side with Bob, who thinks there’s a black gene that makes them run faster and not be able to do math.
No other country in the world has the opportunity to create wealth and prosperity like the US.
You’re full of shit.
The US is 27th in the world in social mobility.
You’re out of your fucking league, kid.
This idea that rich are rich and continue to be rich sounds great ... but the reality is that you can easily squander all of that by being an idiot
There’s no price tag for motivation and drive
As Throbber mentioned, there are paths to success in this country. Yes, circumstance can make things more challenging ... everybody with a brain would agree with this. But circumstance doesn’t preclude.
You’re right that there are systemic elements that cause gaps and we should be able to find solutions to close those gaps. Life is also full of choices and people need to be accountable for their choices as well. I know that’s probably controversial to you but reality is all of us are faced with choices daily. We all have accountability for our choices.
I don’t disagree with your last paragraph but context really matters. A lot of these choices are being made by kids. A 16 year old in the inner city whose mom works two jobs choosing between going to school and selling drugs is not where I want to draw the line and say “well you fucking chose that so tough shit”. And it is in no way comparable to the choices the kid in the suburbs gets to make.
Inheriting $$$ is great ... we all should be so lucky
But $$$ doesn’t give you motivation and drive
$$$ may give you an out from fucking up as long as you don’t fuck up too bad
But if $$$ is viewed as a sign of success and therefore you don’t have to do shit going forward ... well THAT mindset will turn one into a disaster
We all have choices ... we all have obstacles
I get your point about choosing gangs/drugs vs education and clearly that’s an issue in a number of neighborhoods in many cities. But again, we all have choices. Do you make short term or long term choices?
Life isn’t designed to be easy. Most of us have to make tough choices and make sacrifices to be successful.
Look at the stars on the Food Network. Only Giada came from money. Bobby went to trade school instead of college. What really is broken is our "public" education system. Time to defund it and spread the money where it can actually give our kids an actual practical education.
But you’re right people like Flay and Symon are in a constant state of hustle learning, growing, and expanding their expertise and influence
