Blatant White Privilege and systemic white racism on display.

TurdBomber said:

Or maybe, @TheKobeStopper, the other minorities just know a good country and a good deal when they see one, because they haven't spent their entire educations being brainwashed that the country they live in is irredeemably racist, and so racist that millions of non-white people stream across it's Southern border by the hundreds of thousands each year.

TheKobeStopper said:

Tequilla said:

TheKobeStopper said:

PurpleThrobber said:

TheKobeStopper said:

Pitchfork51 said:

TheKobeStopper said:

Blatant White Privilege and systemic white racism on display

This implies that you think if black minors were charged as adults it would indicate systemic racism, no?

Systemic racism precludes colored people from knowing right and wrong

60 years ago black people were still fighting for civil rights, their families have had no opportunity to accumulate wealth and most wealth in this country is inherited.

They got red lined in to inner cities where drugs and crime thrive, no matter what color you are, because that’s the easiest way to make money. The success rate of white kids coming out of the inner city isn’t good either.

Then we hammered them with the war on drugs.

We fund schools with property taxes, giving the 5 year old in the suburbs a systemic advantage over the 5 year old in the inner city.

So yes, systemic racism is why black people are disproportionately poor, why they’re less likely to grow up in a two parent household, why they have worse educational opportunities and anyone in those circumstances is more likely to commit violent crimes.

I know you hate the woke shit and there is a ton of ridiculousness. “Science is white supremacy” and “manspreading”. But we also have all of the substance. You can hate the woketards and still live over here in reality. Or you can go side with Bob, who thinks there’s a black gene that makes them run faster and not be able to do math.

Just because you have a trust fund doesn’t mean ‘most wealth is inherited.’

No other country in the world has the opportunity to create wealth and prosperity like the US.

You’re full of shit.

In 2017 60% of wealth in the US had been inherited.

The US is 27th in the world in social mobility.

You’re out of your fucking league, kid.

Here’s the problem that I have with this mindset

This idea that rich are rich and continue to be rich sounds great ... but the reality is that you can easily squander all of that by being an idiot

There’s no price tag for motivation and drive

As Throbber mentioned, there are paths to success in this country. Yes, circumstance can make things more challenging ... everybody with a brain would agree with this. But circumstance doesn’t preclude.

You’re right that there are systemic elements that cause gaps and we should be able to find solutions to close those gaps. Life is also full of choices and people need to be accountable for their choices as well. I know that’s probably controversial to you but reality is all of us are faced with choices daily. We all have accountability for our choices.

Those aren’t mindsets, they’re statistical facts.

I don’t disagree with your last paragraph but context really matters. A lot of these choices are being made by kids. A 16 year old in the inner city whose mom works two jobs choosing between going to school and selling drugs is not where I want to draw the line and say “well you fucking chose that so tough shit”. And it is in no way comparable to the choices the kid in the suburbs gets to make.

Tequilla said:

TheKobeStopper said:

Tequilla said:

TheKobeStopper said:

PurpleThrobber said:

TheKobeStopper said:

Pitchfork51 said:

TheKobeStopper said:

Blatant White Privilege and systemic white racism on display

This implies that you think if black minors were charged as adults it would indicate systemic racism, no?

Systemic racism precludes colored people from knowing right and wrong

60 years ago black people were still fighting for civil rights, their families have had no opportunity to accumulate wealth and most wealth in this country is inherited.

They got red lined in to inner cities where drugs and crime thrive, no matter what color you are, because that’s the easiest way to make money. The success rate of white kids coming out of the inner city isn’t good either.

Then we hammered them with the war on drugs.

We fund schools with property taxes, giving the 5 year old in the suburbs a systemic advantage over the 5 year old in the inner city.

So yes, systemic racism is why black people are disproportionately poor, why they’re less likely to grow up in a two parent household, why they have worse educational opportunities and anyone in those circumstances is more likely to commit violent crimes.

I know you hate the woke shit and there is a ton of ridiculousness. “Science is white supremacy” and “manspreading”. But we also have all of the substance. You can hate the woketards and still live over here in reality. Or you can go side with Bob, who thinks there’s a black gene that makes them run faster and not be able to do math.

Just because you have a trust fund doesn’t mean ‘most wealth is inherited.’

No other country in the world has the opportunity to create wealth and prosperity like the US.

You’re full of shit.

In 2017 60% of wealth in the US had been inherited.

The US is 27th in the world in social mobility.

You’re out of your fucking league, kid.

Here’s the problem that I have with this mindset

This idea that rich are rich and continue to be rich sounds great ... but the reality is that you can easily squander all of that by being an idiot

There’s no price tag for motivation and drive

As Throbber mentioned, there are paths to success in this country. Yes, circumstance can make things more challenging ... everybody with a brain would agree with this. But circumstance doesn’t preclude.

You’re right that there are systemic elements that cause gaps and we should be able to find solutions to close those gaps. Life is also full of choices and people need to be accountable for their choices as well. I know that’s probably controversial to you but reality is all of us are faced with choices daily. We all have accountability for our choices.

Those aren’t mindsets, they’re statistical facts.

I don’t disagree with your last paragraph but context really matters. A lot of these choices are being made by kids. A 16 year old in the inner city whose mom works two jobs choosing between going to school and selling drugs is not where I want to draw the line and say “well you fucking chose that so tough shit”. And it is in no way comparable to the choices the kid in the suburbs gets to make.

You’re missing the point I was making about mindset

Inheriting $$$ is great ... we all should be so lucky

But $$$ doesn’t give you motivation and drive

$$$ may give you an out from fucking up as long as you don’t fuck up too bad

But if $$$ is viewed as a sign of success and therefore you don’t have to do shit going forward ... well THAT mindset will turn one into a disaster

We all have choices ... we all have obstacles

I get your point about choosing gangs/drugs vs education and clearly that’s an issue in a number of neighborhoods in many cities. But again, we all have choices. Do you make short term or long term choices?

Life isn’t designed to be easy. Most of us have to make tough choices and make sacrifices to be successful.

Tequilla said:

TurdBomber said:

Or maybe, @TheKobeStopper, the other minorities just know a good country and a good deal when they see one, because they haven't spent their entire educations being brainwashed that the country they live in is irredeemably racist, and so racist that millions of non-white people stream across it's Southern border by the hundreds of thousands each year.

Pretty sure that those that fled areas in Southeast Asia in the 60s and 70s in particular didn’t come here with much to their names

In many instances, those that came here did everything they could to make ends meet while focusing on ensuring that their children took advantage of their opportunities and education

TheKobeStopper said:

Pitchfork51 said:

TheKobeStopper said:

TurdBomber said:

Or maybe, @TheKobeStopper, the other minorities just know a good country and a good deal when they see one, because they haven't spent their entire educations being brainwashed that the country they live in is irredeemably racist, and so racist that millions of non-white people stream across it's Southern border by the hundreds of thousands each year.

Are you blaming white people for brainwashing black people or black people for being brain washed?

No one really gives a fuck. I hold the door for people regardless.

The media is the true enemy. It's really bad man.

Why is this in response to me? I asked for Turdbomber to clarify what he was saying and you respond to me with “no one really gives a fuck”? Why don’t you tell the person who actually said it and get off my dick?

TheKobeStopper said:

TurdBomber said:

Or maybe, @TheKobeStopper, the other minorities just know a good country and a good deal when they see one, because they haven't spent their entire educations being brainwashed that the country they live in is irredeemably racist, and so racist that millions of non-white people stream across it's Southern border by the hundreds of thousands each year.

Are you blaming white people for brainwashing black people or black people for being brain washed?

TheKobeStopper said:

Tequilla said:

TheKobeStopper said:

Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

TheKobeStopper said:

Pitchfork51 said:

TheKobeStopper said:

Blatant White Privilege and systemic white racism on display

This implies that you think if black minors were charged as adults it would indicate systemic racism, no?

Systemic racism precludes colored people from knowing right and wrong

60 years ago black people were still fighting for civil rights, their families have had no opportunity to accumulate wealth and most wealth in this country is inherited.

They got red lined in to inner cities where drugs and crime thrive, no matter what color you are, because that’s the easiest way to make money. The success rate of white kids coming out of the inner city isn’t good either.

Then we hammered them with the war on drugs.

We fund schools with property taxes, giving the 5 year old in the suburbs a systemic advantage over the 5 year old in the inner city.

So yes, systemic racism is why black people are disproportionately poor, why they’re less likely to grow up in a two parent household, why they have worse educational opportunities and anyone in those circumstances is more likely to commit violent crimes.

I know you hate the woke shit and there is a ton of ridiculousness. “Science is white supremacy” and “manspreading”. But we also have all of the substance. You can hate the woketards and still live over here in reality. Or you can go side with Bob, who thinks there’s a black gene that makes them run faster and not be able to do math.

Other minorities and Jews take like 10 years to build wealth after immigrating here. They weren't treated well. Explain that one.

That’s like a 500 page paper but I think a couple of the simplest answers to convey are

1. Minorities like Jews and Asians are often immigrating here as middle class or higher and well educated. When that’s your starting point, it’s easier to succeed then when you literally started as slaves.

2. Other minorities always had black people as the lowest rung. A good example of this is the US appraisal industry ranked neighborhoods in the 1930s with A, B, C and D grades. Neighborhoods with Jewish residents would get Bs and Cs while neighborhoods with even a single black resident would get a D.

I’m all for having real discussions about how to make things better for all Americans regardless of race, religion, gender, orientation, etc

That said, bringing 2 examples out that in your own words are at minimum 80-90 years old and effectively 150+ years ago isn’t really solving anything today and going forward. What it does do though is look backwards and blame issues of today on the (not recent) past.

Ok so they got redlined in the 30s, then spent the next 30 years without civil rights and when they finally got them, they still lived in the poorest neighborhoods in America. That’s 50 years ago, dude.

But if you want to go over the last 50 years we can talk about crack, we can talk about the war on drugs, we can talk black people getting targeted for sub prime mortgages before 2008. And I know “they made that choice” but a lot of people made bad choices and got bailed the fuck out. Not black people though, they didn’t get shit back.

Goduckies said:

TheKobeStopper said:

Pitchfork51 said:

TheKobeStopper said:

Blatant White Privilege and systemic white racism on display

This implies that you think if black minors were charged as adults it would indicate systemic racism, no?

Systemic racism precludes colored people from knowing right and wrong

60 years ago black people were still fighting for civil rights, their families have had no opportunity to accumulate wealth and most wealth in this country is inherited.

They got red lined in to inner cities where drugs and crime thrive, no matter what color you are, because that’s the easiest way to make money. The success rate of white kids coming out of the inner city isn’t good either.

Then we hammered them with the war on drugs.

We fund schools with property taxes, giving the 5 year old in the suburbs a systemic advantage over the 5 year old in the inner city.

So yes, systemic racism is why black people are disproportionately poor, why they’re less likely to grow up in a two parent household, why they have worse educational opportunities and anyone in those circumstances is more likely to commit violent crimes.

I know you hate the woke shit and there is a ton of ridiculousness. “Science is white supremacy” and “manspreading”. But we also have all of the substance. You can hate the woketards and still live over here in reality. Or you can go side with Bob, who thinks there’s a black gene that makes them run faster and not be able to do math.

How about we do area help, not race help.

WestlinnDuck said:

Tequilla said:

TheKobeStopper said:

Tequilla said:

TheKobeStopper said:

PurpleThrobber said:

TheKobeStopper said:

Pitchfork51 said:

TheKobeStopper said:

Blatant White Privilege and systemic white racism on display

This implies that you think if black minors were charged as adults it would indicate systemic racism, no?

Systemic racism precludes colored people from knowing right and wrong

60 years ago black people were still fighting for civil rights, their families have had no opportunity to accumulate wealth and most wealth in this country is inherited.

They got red lined in to inner cities where drugs and crime thrive, no matter what color you are, because that’s the easiest way to make money. The success rate of white kids coming out of the inner city isn’t good either.

Then we hammered them with the war on drugs.

We fund schools with property taxes, giving the 5 year old in the suburbs a systemic advantage over the 5 year old in the inner city.

So yes, systemic racism is why black people are disproportionately poor, why they’re less likely to grow up in a two parent household, why they have worse educational opportunities and anyone in those circumstances is more likely to commit violent crimes.

I know you hate the woke shit and there is a ton of ridiculousness. “Science is white supremacy” and “manspreading”. But we also have all of the substance. You can hate the woketards and still live over here in reality. Or you can go side with Bob, who thinks there’s a black gene that makes them run faster and not be able to do math.

Just because you have a trust fund doesn’t mean ‘most wealth is inherited.’

No other country in the world has the opportunity to create wealth and prosperity like the US.

You’re full of shit.

In 2017 60% of wealth in the US had been inherited.

The US is 27th in the world in social mobility.

You’re out of your fucking league, kid.

Here’s the problem that I have with this mindset

This idea that rich are rich and continue to be rich sounds great ... but the reality is that you can easily squander all of that by being an idiot

There’s no price tag for motivation and drive

As Throbber mentioned, there are paths to success in this country. Yes, circumstance can make things more challenging ... everybody with a brain would agree with this. But circumstance doesn’t preclude.

You’re right that there are systemic elements that cause gaps and we should be able to find solutions to close those gaps. Life is also full of choices and people need to be accountable for their choices as well. I know that’s probably controversial to you but reality is all of us are faced with choices daily. We all have accountability for our choices.

Those aren’t mindsets, they’re statistical facts.

I don’t disagree with your last paragraph but context really matters. A lot of these choices are being made by kids. A 16 year old in the inner city whose mom works two jobs choosing between going to school and selling drugs is not where I want to draw the line and say “well you fucking chose that so tough shit”. And it is in no way comparable to the choices the kid in the suburbs gets to make.

You’re missing the point I was making about mindset

Inheriting $$$ is great ... we all should be so lucky

But $$$ doesn’t give you motivation and drive

$$$ may give you an out from fucking up as long as you don’t fuck up too bad

But if $$$ is viewed as a sign of success and therefore you don’t have to do shit going forward ... well THAT mindset will turn one into a disaster

We all have choices ... we all have obstacles

I get your point about choosing gangs/drugs vs education and clearly that’s an issue in a number of neighborhoods in many cities. But again, we all have choices. Do you make short term or long term choices?

Life isn’t designed to be easy. Most of us have to make tough choices and make sacrifices to be successful.

Look at Hunter Biden. Born with a silver spoon and look at what he has done with his golden ticket. At least he didn't kill anyone (that we know of) unlike Teddy the Swimmer.

Look at the stars on the Food Network. Only Giada came from money. Bobby went to trade school instead of college. What really is broken is our "public" education system. Time to defund it and spread the money where it can actually give our kids an actual practical education.

Tequilla said:

WestlinnDuck said:

Tequilla said:

TheKobeStopper said:

Tequilla said:

TheKobeStopper said:

PurpleThrobber said:

TheKobeStopper said:

Pitchfork51 said:

TheKobeStopper said:

Blatant White Privilege and systemic white racism on display

This implies that you think if black minors were charged as adults it would indicate systemic racism, no?

Systemic racism precludes colored people from knowing right and wrong

60 years ago black people were still fighting for civil rights, their families have had no opportunity to accumulate wealth and most wealth in this country is inherited.

They got red lined in to inner cities where drugs and crime thrive, no matter what color you are, because that’s the easiest way to make money. The success rate of white kids coming out of the inner city isn’t good either.

Then we hammered them with the war on drugs.

We fund schools with property taxes, giving the 5 year old in the suburbs a systemic advantage over the 5 year old in the inner city.

So yes, systemic racism is why black people are disproportionately poor, why they’re less likely to grow up in a two parent household, why they have worse educational opportunities and anyone in those circumstances is more likely to commit violent crimes.

I know you hate the woke shit and there is a ton of ridiculousness. “Science is white supremacy” and “manspreading”. But we also have all of the substance. You can hate the woketards and still live over here in reality. Or you can go side with Bob, who thinks there’s a black gene that makes them run faster and not be able to do math.

Just because you have a trust fund doesn’t mean ‘most wealth is inherited.’

No other country in the world has the opportunity to create wealth and prosperity like the US.

You’re full of shit.

In 2017 60% of wealth in the US had been inherited.

The US is 27th in the world in social mobility.

You’re out of your fucking league, kid.

Here’s the problem that I have with this mindset

This idea that rich are rich and continue to be rich sounds great ... but the reality is that you can easily squander all of that by being an idiot

There’s no price tag for motivation and drive

As Throbber mentioned, there are paths to success in this country. Yes, circumstance can make things more challenging ... everybody with a brain would agree with this. But circumstance doesn’t preclude.

You’re right that there are systemic elements that cause gaps and we should be able to find solutions to close those gaps. Life is also full of choices and people need to be accountable for their choices as well. I know that’s probably controversial to you but reality is all of us are faced with choices daily. We all have accountability for our choices.

Those aren’t mindsets, they’re statistical facts.

I don’t disagree with your last paragraph but context really matters. A lot of these choices are being made by kids. A 16 year old in the inner city whose mom works two jobs choosing between going to school and selling drugs is not where I want to draw the line and say “well you fucking chose that so tough shit”. And it is in no way comparable to the choices the kid in the suburbs gets to make.

You’re missing the point I was making about mindset

Inheriting $$$ is great ... we all should be so lucky

But $$$ doesn’t give you motivation and drive

$$$ may give you an out from fucking up as long as you don’t fuck up too bad

But if $$$ is viewed as a sign of success and therefore you don’t have to do shit going forward ... well THAT mindset will turn one into a disaster

We all have choices ... we all have obstacles

I get your point about choosing gangs/drugs vs education and clearly that’s an issue in a number of neighborhoods in many cities. But again, we all have choices. Do you make short term or long term choices?

Life isn’t designed to be easy. Most of us have to make tough choices and make sacrifices to be successful.

Look at Hunter Biden. Born with a silver spoon and look at what he has done with his golden ticket. At least he didn't kill anyone (that we know of) unlike Teddy the Swimmer.

Look at the stars on the Food Network. Only Giada came from money. Bobby went to trade school instead of college. What really is broken is our "public" education system. Time to defund it and spread the money where it can actually give our kids an actual practical education.

And Giada went on to leverage her “advantages” to be one of the foremost experts in her field

But you’re right people like Flay and Symon are in a constant state of hustle learning, growing, and expanding their expertise and influence

PurpleThrobber said:

Bendintheriver said:

My mother made a poor choice for a husband. From 7 to 21 I and my family were as poor as one can get without being bankrupt and living in total assistance from the government. I could have gone the drug pusher route but I was raised right by my poor as shit single mother who never once asked for welfare. I had a job since I was in the 3rd grade. No job, no new clothes for the new school year which essentially meant that I would be teased for wearing high water pants (a term you older half might remember). There was never, ever, a family vacation, the TV was circa 1950's black and white with needle nose plyers as a tuning tool, no air conditioning, no help from family, no parachute, one beat up car that constantly broke down, paid 100% for my own college education while working jobs to pay for food and we lived in neighborhoods where men beat their wives on a nightly basis and their children were in and out of juvey for 10 years. Me and my siblings had every opportunity to go to the dark side. One constant kept us from ever thinking about going there: My mother. She taught us to be responsible for ourselves, to save our money when we could, study hard, get an education, to never get a girl pregnant and we never, ever had a moment in our lives that we considered NOT going to college and getting a better life for ourselves. College was a minimum expectation. She was of the Rodney Dangerfield school of K-12 grades, "A, B, C your in the top three". Just graduate and get a degree in something.

When I hear people like Kobe spouting off about inner city kids that have no alternative than to sell drugs, systemic racism is holding people of color back, blah, blah blah, it just reinforces what I already know. That rats don't care about the very people they expect to be a consistent voting block for them. Their lack of expectation for their fellow citizens of a different color is all the proof you need that they are blatant racists. Black mothers and fathers are perfectly capable of providing for their children and setting minimum expectations. Many do. Nothing is holding them back but the gutless rats who support bad behavior and outcomes for votes. They don't want a real discussion on race. It wouldn't help them at all. Discouraging a 73% fatherless birthrate is like kryptonite to rats. They need the voting block. Keep them angry, victims, pregnant and poor and rats got them right where they want them. Its sickening, un-American and heartless but it is what rats are all about.

This is essentially my fathers story. Poorer than poverty poor. The townspeople “gave” his mother laundry to do -though they were more than capable of doing their own - so they had enough money to buy food.

He served in the military for 8 years including Korean War. Went to school on the GI Bill and was a teacher for over three decades. Totally beloved because he treated the rich kids and the poor kids, the black kids and the white kids the same - which probably wasn’t the norm in the late 50’s and 60’s. There were only “good kids” or “bad kids” in his eyes. And the good ones were the ones who did the best with the hand they were dealt and the bad ones whined and complained and acted with a sense of entitlement or victimness.

Literally hundreds have told me he changed the trajectory of their lives.

The message of opportunity and hard work and persistence is always the recipe for those willing to put the ingredients together.