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Slight Correction of Georgia Election laws from AJC
georgiaduck
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Simple mix up. Could have happened to anyone..
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Anyone watching MSNBC or CNN still believes the narrative is that this law aims to restrict voting for non-whites. There couldn't possibly be another explanation.georgiaduck said:Simple mix up. Could have happened to anyone..
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Did that hurt your feelings @MelloDawg ?hardhat said:
Anyone watching MSNBC or CNN still believes the narrative is that this law aims to restrict voting for non-whites. There couldn't possibly be another explanation.georgiaduck said:Simple mix up. Could have happened to anyone..
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I think major league baseball looks pretty stupid now but thankfully no one will notice because NOGAF about baseball
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Everyone is dead from covid in Georgia anywayRaceBannon said:I think major league baseball looks pretty stupid now but thankfully no one will notice because NOGAF about baseball
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I feel like I need to read this Georgia bill in it’s entirety ... but very clear that MLB felt the peer pressure
Manfred is pretty much the worst pro sports commish by a wide margin ... and that was well before this announcement -
So did MLB move Atlanta Braves games to another state? if no - what a bunch of pussies
Is the NCAA(P) going to pull football out of Georgia? the NFL, what about Delta? is the airport still in business?
Where are the bans when we need them? -
How would they be legally capable of doing that?LebamDawg said:So did MLB move Atlanta Braves games to another state? if no - what a bunch of pussies
Is the NCAA(P) going to pull football out of Georgia? the NFL, what about Delta? is the airport still in business?
Where are the bans when we need them?
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Pretty much leaves the All-Star game in Blue States. Since I gave up on MLB about 30 years ago, phuck em.Tequilla said:I feel like I need to read this Georgia bill in it’s entirety ... but very clear that MLB felt the peer pressure
Manfred is pretty much the worst pro sports commish by a wide margin ... and that was well before this announcement -
You can count on the game going to Milwaukee under the guise of celebrating Hank Aaron
Below the radar reason is that the Brewers are the team of Commissioner Emeritus Bud Selig ... but surely no conflict of interest there -
It’s all about selective PR opticsLebamDawg said:So did MLB move Atlanta Braves games to another state? if no - what a bunch of pussies
Is the NCAA(P) going to pull football out of Georgia? the NFL, what about Delta? is the airport still in business?
Where are the bans when we need them?
What exactly did the Braves as an organization have to do with the bill that was passed? What could they have done differently? -
Just more phucking virtue signaling reacting to the woke folk that hate major league sports anyway.Tequilla said:
It’s all about selective PR opticsLebamDawg said:So did MLB move Atlanta Braves games to another state? if no - what a bunch of pussies
Is the NCAA(P) going to pull football out of Georgia? the NFL, what about Delta? is the airport still in business?
Where are the bans when we need them?
What exactly did the Braves as an organization have to do with the bill that was passed? What could they have done differently? -
You will never be able to go far enough to satisfy those that virtue signal ... once you show them that you will jump at their wishes they’ll never find themselves satisfiedWestlinnDuck said:
Just more phucking virtue signaling reacting to the woke folk that hate major league sports anyway.Tequilla said:
It’s all about selective PR opticsLebamDawg said:So did MLB move Atlanta Braves games to another state? if no - what a bunch of pussies
Is the NCAA(P) going to pull football out of Georgia? the NFL, what about Delta? is the airport still in business?
Where are the bans when we need them?
What exactly did the Braves as an organization have to do with the bill that was passed? What could they have done differently? -
They are just the mouthpieces for the Rat party. They aren’t saying anything not being said by every elected Rat including Biden, Harris, Pelosi and Schumerhardhat said:
Anyone watching MSNBC or CNN still believes the narrative is that this law aims to restrict voting for non-whites. There couldn't possibly be another explanation.georgiaduck said:Simple mix up. Could have happened to anyone..
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The truly shitty part is when you show the actual facts of the bill, libs still don't care. Any reason to call a conservative "Racist" and throw out "Jim Crow" when it doesn't apply. Still waiting for CNN with the live fact checking. It's almost as if they don't care when the facts they like are in power.
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From what I can tell about the bill ...georgiaduck said:The truly shitty part is when you show the actual facts of the bill, libs still don't care. Any reason to call a conservative "Racist" and throw out "Jim Crow" when it doesn't apply. Still waiting for CNN with the live fact checking. It's almost as if they don't care when the facts they like are in power.
There’s a desire to ensure that the individual that voted is actually the person they say that they are ... a position that a majority of Americans agree with and have for a long period of time
Ensuring that to receive an absentee ballot that the individual voter requests the ballot vs everybody getting mailed one without requesting it ... I suspect this is aimed at ensuring one vote for each voter versus ballot harvesting (as an aside I’d love to know what controls we have in place with elections to audit against - particularly real time - to ensure for instance that I don’t vote not only with my absentee ballot but also in person on Election Day?)
Limiting the hours of drop boxes to be consistent with the same times as early voting is open ... effectively it appears to be aimed at ensuring the presence of someone to verify that the individual dropping off the ballot matches the individual voter
Restricting distributing food/drink to those standing in line ... I have to think this is designed to prevent against appearances of impropriety
The hours on the drop box probably aren’t needed. That could be replaced quickly by saying anybody that requests an absentee ballot is ineligible to vote directly at a ballot/voting location. The food/drink thing is kinda stupid but at the same time that’s an easy optic one to fix on a number of levels.
I mean I can see a little bit of the “it’s making it harder to vote” arguments but it seems like twisting to me to make a bigger issue than it is.
What am I missing? -
They're restricting a person getting food. They're restricting outside groups from handing out food items- there have been issues in the past where groups clad in political gear show up at a poll with pizzas/gift cards etc. That needs to be controlled. If you show up and see a line that will take you ten hours to navigate- turn around and get a snack, get some fluids, call a friend and have them bring you a pizza. The difference between ten hours and ten hours and fifteen minutes is mice nuts.Tequilla said:
From what I can tell about the bill ...georgiaduck said:The truly shitty part is when you show the actual facts of the bill, libs still don't care. Any reason to call a conservative "Racist" and throw out "Jim Crow" when it doesn't apply. Still waiting for CNN with the live fact checking. It's almost as if they don't care when the facts they like are in power.
There’s a desire to ensure that the individual that voted is actually the person they say that they are ... a position that a majority of Americans agree with and have for a long period of time
Ensuring that to receive an absentee ballot that the individual voter requests the ballot vs everybody getting mailed one without requesting it ... I suspect this is aimed at ensuring one vote for each voter versus ballot harvesting (as an aside I’d love to know what controls we have in place with elections to audit against - particularly real time - to ensure for instance that I don’t vote not only with my absentee ballot but also in person on Election Day?)
Limiting the hours of drop boxes to be consistent with the same times as early voting is open ... effectively it appears to be aimed at ensuring the presence of someone to verify that the individual dropping off the ballot matches the individual voter
Restricting distributing food/drink to those standing in line ... I have to think this is designed to prevent against appearances of impropriety
The hours on the drop box probably aren’t needed. That could be replaced quickly by saying anybody that requests an absentee ballot is ineligible to vote directly at a ballot/voting location. The food/drink thing is kinda stupid but at the same time that’s an easy optic one to fix on a number of levels.
I mean I can see a little bit of the “it’s making it harder to vote” arguments but it seems like twisting to me to make a bigger issue than it is.
What am I missing?
And you are correct this is twisting the truth to make it seem bigger. Biden's Jim Crow comment, MLB moving the ASG are significantly disproportional to the new laws (which apply to everyone by the way).
This is all a distraction from Biden fucking up kids in cages and situations like Cuomo with his sexual assault allegations/colossal fuck up of senior centers and COVID.
Having votes in Georgia for 25 years I've never once had to wait more than 10-15 minutes. I'm quite sure other places are longer, but the bill allows early and weekend voting. Most importantly, it narrows the time between runoff elections which are insufferable. -
That’s good first hand perspective
If people are waiting 10 hours then there are other issues that need to be addressed besides food/drink
And you’re right, groups distributing items give the illusions of impropriety and conflicts of interest. It’s one of those unfortunate realities of life.
From afar it feels to me like the bill as passed was sloppy and left too many instances of low hanging fruit to blow up. -
The blue koolaid drink.Tequilla said:
From what I can tell about the bill ...georgiaduck said:The truly shitty part is when you show the actual facts of the bill, libs still don't care. Any reason to call a conservative "Racist" and throw out "Jim Crow" when it doesn't apply. Still waiting for CNN with the live fact checking. It's almost as if they don't care when the facts they like are in power.
There’s a desire to ensure that the individual that voted is actually the person they say that they are ... a position that a majority of Americans agree with and have for a long period of time
Ensuring that to receive an absentee ballot that the individual voter requests the ballot vs everybody getting mailed one without requesting it ... I suspect this is aimed at ensuring one vote for each voter versus ballot harvesting (as an aside I’d love to know what controls we have in place with elections to audit against - particularly real time - to ensure for instance that I don’t vote not only with my absentee ballot but also in person on Election Day?)
Limiting the hours of drop boxes to be consistent with the same times as early voting is open ... effectively it appears to be aimed at ensuring the presence of someone to verify that the individual dropping off the ballot matches the individual voter
Restricting distributing food/drink to those standing in line ... I have to think this is designed to prevent against appearances of impropriety
The hours on the drop box probably aren’t needed. That could be replaced quickly by saying anybody that requests an absentee ballot is ineligible to vote directly at a ballot/voting location. The food/drink thing is kinda stupid but at the same time that’s an easy optic one to fix on a number of levels.
I mean I can see a little bit of the “it’s making it harder to vote” arguments but it seems like twisting to me to make a bigger issue than it is.
What am I missing?
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I’m open to anybody proving anything to me with things like real evidence and factsPurpleThrobber said:
The blue koolaid drink.Tequilla said:
From what I can tell about the bill ...georgiaduck said:The truly shitty part is when you show the actual facts of the bill, libs still don't care. Any reason to call a conservative "Racist" and throw out "Jim Crow" when it doesn't apply. Still waiting for CNN with the live fact checking. It's almost as if they don't care when the facts they like are in power.
There’s a desire to ensure that the individual that voted is actually the person they say that they are ... a position that a majority of Americans agree with and have for a long period of time
Ensuring that to receive an absentee ballot that the individual voter requests the ballot vs everybody getting mailed one without requesting it ... I suspect this is aimed at ensuring one vote for each voter versus ballot harvesting (as an aside I’d love to know what controls we have in place with elections to audit against - particularly real time - to ensure for instance that I don’t vote not only with my absentee ballot but also in person on Election Day?)
Limiting the hours of drop boxes to be consistent with the same times as early voting is open ... effectively it appears to be aimed at ensuring the presence of someone to verify that the individual dropping off the ballot matches the individual voter
Restricting distributing food/drink to those standing in line ... I have to think this is designed to prevent against appearances of impropriety
The hours on the drop box probably aren’t needed. That could be replaced quickly by saying anybody that requests an absentee ballot is ineligible to vote directly at a ballot/voting location. The food/drink thing is kinda stupid but at the same time that’s an easy optic one to fix on a number of levels.
I mean I can see a little bit of the “it’s making it harder to vote” arguments but it seems like twisting to me to make a bigger issue than it is.
What am I missing?
I don’t do well with the “because I said so” crowd -
MLB is pulling the all-star game and the draft out of Georgia, Private business they can do whatever they like. I am wondering why others in Georgia haven't followed suit. It is more like they are still playing Trump cards instead.MelloDawg said:
How would they be legally capable of doing that?LebamDawg said:So did MLB move Atlanta Braves games to another state? if no - what a bunch of pussies
Is the NCAA(P) going to pull football out of Georgia? the NFL, what about Delta? is the airport still in business?
Where are the bans when we need them?
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That's called logic.Tequilla said:
I’m open to anybody proving anything to me with things like real evidence and factsPurpleThrobber said:
The blue koolaid drink.Tequilla said:
From what I can tell about the bill ...georgiaduck said:The truly shitty part is when you show the actual facts of the bill, libs still don't care. Any reason to call a conservative "Racist" and throw out "Jim Crow" when it doesn't apply. Still waiting for CNN with the live fact checking. It's almost as if they don't care when the facts they like are in power.
There’s a desire to ensure that the individual that voted is actually the person they say that they are ... a position that a majority of Americans agree with and have for a long period of time
Ensuring that to receive an absentee ballot that the individual voter requests the ballot vs everybody getting mailed one without requesting it ... I suspect this is aimed at ensuring one vote for each voter versus ballot harvesting (as an aside I’d love to know what controls we have in place with elections to audit against - particularly real time - to ensure for instance that I don’t vote not only with my absentee ballot but also in person on Election Day?)
Limiting the hours of drop boxes to be consistent with the same times as early voting is open ... effectively it appears to be aimed at ensuring the presence of someone to verify that the individual dropping off the ballot matches the individual voter
Restricting distributing food/drink to those standing in line ... I have to think this is designed to prevent against appearances of impropriety
The hours on the drop box probably aren’t needed. That could be replaced quickly by saying anybody that requests an absentee ballot is ineligible to vote directly at a ballot/voting location. The food/drink thing is kinda stupid but at the same time that’s an easy optic one to fix on a number of levels.
I mean I can see a little bit of the “it’s making it harder to vote” arguments but it seems like twisting to me to make a bigger issue than it is.
What am I missing?
I don’t do well with the “because I said so” crowd
Without the blue koolaid drink, you still are able to utilize it.
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1) It’s expensive (in both time and $$$) to just pick up and move businesses ...LebamDawg said:
MLB is pulling the all-star game and the draft out of Georgia, Private business they can do whatever they like. I am wondering why others in Georgia haven't followed suit. It is more like they are still playing Trump cards instead.MelloDawg said:
How would they be legally capable of doing that?LebamDawg said:So did MLB move Atlanta Braves games to another state? if no - what a bunch of pussies
Is the NCAA(P) going to pull football out of Georgia? the NFL, what about Delta? is the airport still in business?
Where are the bans when we need them?
2) MLB has some anti trust protections that are quite beneficial to their “private” business
In the past the easiest way to get MLB to jump is to start talking a bit about that good ol’ reserve clause and that normally takes care of that -
I am being totally facetious in my comments, the more normal operations of the left is to pressure, then company announces they are leaving, state/city/local government panics, then buckles under threat.
No companies ever really leave, items that were threatened to be pulled out of state never really get pulled. and so on and so on and Scooby dooby do -
and one other thing - see if Ted Turner/CNN/Atlanta Braves/Hawks/Falcons all begin to pressure Kemp into trying to get those voter laws retracted
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And yet that's all Biden and the Rats have cited as their "evidence."Tequilla said:
I’m open to anybody proving anything to me with things like real evidence and factsPurpleThrobber said:
The blue koolaid drink.Tequilla said:
From what I can tell about the bill ...georgiaduck said:The truly shitty part is when you show the actual facts of the bill, libs still don't care. Any reason to call a conservative "Racist" and throw out "Jim Crow" when it doesn't apply. Still waiting for CNN with the live fact checking. It's almost as if they don't care when the facts they like are in power.
There’s a desire to ensure that the individual that voted is actually the person they say that they are ... a position that a majority of Americans agree with and have for a long period of time
Ensuring that to receive an absentee ballot that the individual voter requests the ballot vs everybody getting mailed one without requesting it ... I suspect this is aimed at ensuring one vote for each voter versus ballot harvesting (as an aside I’d love to know what controls we have in place with elections to audit against - particularly real time - to ensure for instance that I don’t vote not only with my absentee ballot but also in person on Election Day?)
Limiting the hours of drop boxes to be consistent with the same times as early voting is open ... effectively it appears to be aimed at ensuring the presence of someone to verify that the individual dropping off the ballot matches the individual voter
Restricting distributing food/drink to those standing in line ... I have to think this is designed to prevent against appearances of impropriety
The hours on the drop box probably aren’t needed. That could be replaced quickly by saying anybody that requests an absentee ballot is ineligible to vote directly at a ballot/voting location. The food/drink thing is kinda stupid but at the same time that’s an easy optic one to fix on a number of levels.
I mean I can see a little bit of the “it’s making it harder to vote” arguments but it seems like twisting to me to make a bigger issue than it is.
What am I missing?
I don’t do well with the “because I said so” crowd -
I saw today that the most recent approval ratings for Biden are narrowing a bitSFGbob said:
And yet that's all Biden and the Rats have cited as their "evidence."Tequilla said:
I’m open to anybody proving anything to me with things like real evidence and factsPurpleThrobber said:
The blue koolaid drink.Tequilla said:
From what I can tell about the bill ...georgiaduck said:The truly shitty part is when you show the actual facts of the bill, libs still don't care. Any reason to call a conservative "Racist" and throw out "Jim Crow" when it doesn't apply. Still waiting for CNN with the live fact checking. It's almost as if they don't care when the facts they like are in power.
There’s a desire to ensure that the individual that voted is actually the person they say that they are ... a position that a majority of Americans agree with and have for a long period of time
Ensuring that to receive an absentee ballot that the individual voter requests the ballot vs everybody getting mailed one without requesting it ... I suspect this is aimed at ensuring one vote for each voter versus ballot harvesting (as an aside I’d love to know what controls we have in place with elections to audit against - particularly real time - to ensure for instance that I don’t vote not only with my absentee ballot but also in person on Election Day?)
Limiting the hours of drop boxes to be consistent with the same times as early voting is open ... effectively it appears to be aimed at ensuring the presence of someone to verify that the individual dropping off the ballot matches the individual voter
Restricting distributing food/drink to those standing in line ... I have to think this is designed to prevent against appearances of impropriety
The hours on the drop box probably aren’t needed. That could be replaced quickly by saying anybody that requests an absentee ballot is ineligible to vote directly at a ballot/voting location. The food/drink thing is kinda stupid but at the same time that’s an easy optic one to fix on a number of levels.
I mean I can see a little bit of the “it’s making it harder to vote” arguments but it seems like twisting to me to make a bigger issue than it is.
What am I missing?
I don’t do well with the “because I said so” crowd
The downside for where he came into office was the only direction to go was down because he was never going to live up to what people thought they were voting for -
Anyone that voted for Biden is a fucking moronTequilla said:
I saw today that the most recent approval ratings for Biden are narrowing a bitSFGbob said:
And yet that's all Biden and the Rats have cited as their "evidence."Tequilla said:
I’m open to anybody proving anything to me with things like real evidence and factsPurpleThrobber said:
The blue koolaid drink.Tequilla said:
From what I can tell about the bill ...georgiaduck said:The truly shitty part is when you show the actual facts of the bill, libs still don't care. Any reason to call a conservative "Racist" and throw out "Jim Crow" when it doesn't apply. Still waiting for CNN with the live fact checking. It's almost as if they don't care when the facts they like are in power.
There’s a desire to ensure that the individual that voted is actually the person they say that they are ... a position that a majority of Americans agree with and have for a long period of time
Ensuring that to receive an absentee ballot that the individual voter requests the ballot vs everybody getting mailed one without requesting it ... I suspect this is aimed at ensuring one vote for each voter versus ballot harvesting (as an aside I’d love to know what controls we have in place with elections to audit against - particularly real time - to ensure for instance that I don’t vote not only with my absentee ballot but also in person on Election Day?)
Limiting the hours of drop boxes to be consistent with the same times as early voting is open ... effectively it appears to be aimed at ensuring the presence of someone to verify that the individual dropping off the ballot matches the individual voter
Restricting distributing food/drink to those standing in line ... I have to think this is designed to prevent against appearances of impropriety
The hours on the drop box probably aren’t needed. That could be replaced quickly by saying anybody that requests an absentee ballot is ineligible to vote directly at a ballot/voting location. The food/drink thing is kinda stupid but at the same time that’s an easy optic one to fix on a number of levels.
I mean I can see a little bit of the “it’s making it harder to vote” arguments but it seems like twisting to me to make a bigger issue than it is.
What am I missing?
I don’t do well with the “because I said so” crowd
The downside for where he came into office was the only direction to go was down because he was never going to live up to what people thought they were voting for
47 year record of racist corruption -
Few actually voted for him so maybe we aren't as bad off as I thought.RaceBannon said:
Anyone that voted for Biden is a fucking moronTequilla said:
I saw today that the most recent approval ratings for Biden are narrowing a bitSFGbob said:
And yet that's all Biden and the Rats have cited as their "evidence."Tequilla said:
I’m open to anybody proving anything to me with things like real evidence and factsPurpleThrobber said:
The blue koolaid drink.Tequilla said:
From what I can tell about the bill ...georgiaduck said:The truly shitty part is when you show the actual facts of the bill, libs still don't care. Any reason to call a conservative "Racist" and throw out "Jim Crow" when it doesn't apply. Still waiting for CNN with the live fact checking. It's almost as if they don't care when the facts they like are in power.
There’s a desire to ensure that the individual that voted is actually the person they say that they are ... a position that a majority of Americans agree with and have for a long period of time
Ensuring that to receive an absentee ballot that the individual voter requests the ballot vs everybody getting mailed one without requesting it ... I suspect this is aimed at ensuring one vote for each voter versus ballot harvesting (as an aside I’d love to know what controls we have in place with elections to audit against - particularly real time - to ensure for instance that I don’t vote not only with my absentee ballot but also in person on Election Day?)
Limiting the hours of drop boxes to be consistent with the same times as early voting is open ... effectively it appears to be aimed at ensuring the presence of someone to verify that the individual dropping off the ballot matches the individual voter
Restricting distributing food/drink to those standing in line ... I have to think this is designed to prevent against appearances of impropriety
The hours on the drop box probably aren’t needed. That could be replaced quickly by saying anybody that requests an absentee ballot is ineligible to vote directly at a ballot/voting location. The food/drink thing is kinda stupid but at the same time that’s an easy optic one to fix on a number of levels.
I mean I can see a little bit of the “it’s making it harder to vote” arguments but it seems like twisting to me to make a bigger issue than it is.
What am I missing?
I don’t do well with the “because I said so” crowd
The downside for where he came into office was the only direction to go was down because he was never going to live up to what people thought they were voting for
47 year record of racist corruption
