The Zone defense is what kills recruiting the most
Say anything you want about Hopkins' inability to recruit, and most of it is probably true, but I think his dipshit zone defense is the biggest barrier to recruiting. Who the hell wants to play zone if you're a high level recruit? It doesn't even work with how the modern game is played with most decent teams spacing the floor with shooters.
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The Zone helped take down a lot of things. -
I don't follow the game as much but hasn't Syracuse fallen off the map too? For the same reason?BleachedAnusDawg said:Hawes made a good point on KJR yesterday, which may have been made within one of the 30 threads trashing Hopkins, but should be called out in its own thread. No kid wants to play zone defense.
Say anything you want about Hopkins' inability to recruit, and most of it is probably true, but I think his dipshit zone defense is the biggest barrier to recruiting. Who the hell wants to play zone if you're a high level recruit? It doesn't even work with how the modern game is played with most decent teams spacing the floor with shooters. -
Nah, I don't think top recruits care about playing defense at all.
It was just a year ago we got two top 5 recruits to come in and play the zone. Hop's recruiting is bad now, but not being able to develop any type of offense, or develop player's offensive skillsets has been the main issue. -
No clue if it's entirely due to the zone, Boeheim being a scumbag, or abundance, but per 247 Syracuse's recruiting rankings the past 5 years are:RaceBannon said:
I don't follow the game as much but hasn't Syracuse fallen off the map too? For the same reason?BleachedAnusDawg said:Hawes made a good point on KJR yesterday, which may have been made within one of the 30 threads trashing Hopkins, but should be called out in its own thread. No kid wants to play zone defense.
Say anything you want about Hopkins' inability to recruit, and most of it is probably true, but I think his dipshit zone defense is the biggest barrier to recruiting. Who the hell wants to play zone if you're a high level recruit? It doesn't even work with how the modern game is played with most decent teams spacing the floor with shooters.
72nd in 2021
40th in 2020
33rd in 2019
43rd in 2018
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Kids don’t care about defense all that much. I am sure some orospects know they should play man to man. That being said you should recruit a certain kind of athlete to play in the zone. Hakim Warrick types are made for it. You can’t have short guys on the back line.Neighbor2972 said:Nah, I don't think top recruits care about playing defense at all.
It was just a year ago we got two top 5 recruits to come in and play the zone. Hop's recruiting is bad now, but not being able to develop any type of offense, or develop player's offensive skillsets has been the main issue.
Syracuse again sits in the sweet 16 this year with a shit offense and subpar recruits. Their defense is hard to figure out for some.
I don’t care if we are a bennet ball, zags, Syracuse west or a full court press type of program. You can win any number of ways. A good coach is the key and we don’t have one. -
Hawes played on the AAU circuits and in the league and the guys he came up with now have kids getting at the age of being recruited. He's pretty plugged in and was adamant that the zone scheme harms recruiting. It does make 50% of the game unscoutable, if that's even a word.
Syracuse was 18-9 and finished 8th in their conference. Teams can always have fluke runs in the tournament. -
There must be truth in this but crootin is probably down because we shat ourselves and finished last for 2 straight years.
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Zones have their place but can also be exploited pretty easily by people that no what they are doing
Bigger picture is regardless if defensive scheme you need a roster bought into it -
I think zones get exploited by teams that are used to that specific zone, though a good 2-3 is tough to beat. The real magic is in the tourney when no one you okay has seen it before. Why Syracuse frequently goes further than their seedTequilla said:Zones have their place but can also be exploited pretty easily by people that no what they are doing
Bigger picture is regardless if defensive scheme you need a roster bought into it -
Like at the IMATequilla said:Zones have their place but can also be exploited pretty easily by people that no what they are doing
Bigger picture is regardless if defensive scheme you need a roster bought into it -
Gonzaga plays a ton of zone. UNC plays zone. Hell, WSU lived in the zone all year.
It's offense where the fucking idiot Hop has no clue. And lord knows WTF he's doing behind the scenes in terms of treatment of players. God forbid actually closing a recruit.
Broom the assistants. Then, Jen, show some balls and get that fucker Hop out of here. He's a happier version of Ty.
