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Motive for this shooting just became a complete mystery and unimportant

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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,920
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    At the end of the day when you circle back and drill down mass murder is mass murder. We want a motive for our own mental safety - this was unusual or directed by others and isn't likely to happen to me at the grocery store this week

    Murder by definition is a form of mental illness but we prosecute anyway. As has been discussed ad nauseum, hate crime legislation is bogus and stupid. Going out on a limb, both these guys have a lot of @haie in their hearts.

    Perhaps the profilers at the BAU should focus less on race and religion and more on the traditional signs of mass murder sociopathy.

    The need to find a christian equivalent to Jihad is stupid IMO. The Atlanta dude needs to fry same as the Colorado dude. There is your equivalence

    Yep, and as Westlinn pointed out the other day if you made any Conservative king both of these fuckers would fry before the end of April. Put Dazzler in charge and both live out long life's at taxpayer's expense.
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    dflea said:

    SFGbob said:

    RoadTrip said:

    LebamDawg said:

    here is CNN's what we know about the shooter -

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/23/us/boulder-colorado-shooting-suspect/index.html

    The weapon used in the attack was an AR-15-style pistol modified with an arm brace, according to the source (LE)
    investigators determined Alissa had purchased a Ruger AR556 pistol on March 16

    I added the bits about the weapon. Just fyi is all I am doing - it seems 3 years ago in high school he was teased, probably by white guys.
    Was he nuts? who knows, the article really down plays any religion aspect.

    Edit: I think they meant he took delivery of the weapon on the 16th, I bought a Ruger recently and had to wait 3 weeks for approval

    I think the most egregious aspect of this case is that this killer was on the FBI's radar and they ignored him even after he purchased the weapon. Good thing they were looking for white supremacists and not profiling mooslims.
    The list of mass shootings where the shooter was already on the FBI radar and they did nothing about is now easily in the double digits.
    Arresting people in advance of the crime is a proposal that might face some opposition.
    Agree and that seems to be the failing of gun control legislation

    This guy took and or passed a background check. He was known but he hadn't acted. Which leaves us back at how to we stop nuts without infringing on non criminal citizens.

    I'm not a gun guy at all. Haven't fired one in 40 years or more but I'm also a fan of the constitution.

    We are better able than ever to surveil and find threats but what difference does it make

    The FBI policy for decades has been to infiltrate and destroy threats from within. With lone gunmen that doesn't work

    To me gun control is just another part of the political theater these days.
    Makes you wonder if OBK isn't the FBI's guy here on the Tug.
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    WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 13,924
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    SFGbob said:

    dflea said:

    SFGbob said:

    RoadTrip said:

    LebamDawg said:

    here is CNN's what we know about the shooter -

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/23/us/boulder-colorado-shooting-suspect/index.html

    The weapon used in the attack was an AR-15-style pistol modified with an arm brace, according to the source (LE)
    investigators determined Alissa had purchased a Ruger AR556 pistol on March 16

    I added the bits about the weapon. Just fyi is all I am doing - it seems 3 years ago in high school he was teased, probably by white guys.
    Was he nuts? who knows, the article really down plays any religion aspect.

    Edit: I think they meant he took delivery of the weapon on the 16th, I bought a Ruger recently and had to wait 3 weeks for approval

    I think the most egregious aspect of this case is that this killer was on the FBI's radar and they ignored him even after he purchased the weapon. Good thing they were looking for white supremacists and not profiling mooslims.
    The list of mass shootings where the shooter was already on the FBI radar and they did nothing about is now easily in the double digits.
    Arresting people in advance of the crime is a proposal that might face some opposition.
    Agree and that seems to be the failing of gun control legislation

    This guy took and or passed a background check. He was known but he hadn't acted. Which leaves us back at how to we stop nuts without infringing on non criminal citizens.

    I'm not a gun guy at all. Haven't fired one in 40 years or more but I'm also a fan of the constitution.

    We are better able than ever to surveil and find threats but what difference does it make

    The FBI policy for decades has been to infiltrate and destroy threats from within. With lone gunmen that doesn't work

    To me gun control is just another part of the political theater these days.
    Makes you wonder if OBK isn't the FBI's guy here on the Tug.
    I've said that he is getting paid for his schtick.
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    LebamDawgLebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,545
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    dflea said:

    SFGbob said:

    RoadTrip said:

    LebamDawg said:

    here is CNN's what we know about the shooter -

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/23/us/boulder-colorado-shooting-suspect/index.html

    The weapon used in the attack was an AR-15-style pistol modified with an arm brace, according to the source (LE)
    investigators determined Alissa had purchased a Ruger AR556 pistol on March 16

    I added the bits about the weapon. Just fyi is all I am doing - it seems 3 years ago in high school he was teased, probably by white guys.
    Was he nuts? who knows, the article really down plays any religion aspect.

    Edit: I think they meant he took delivery of the weapon on the 16th, I bought a Ruger recently and had to wait 3 weeks for approval

    I think the most egregious aspect of this case is that this killer was on the FBI's radar and they ignored him even after he purchased the weapon. Good thing they were looking for white supremacists and not profiling mooslims.
    The list of mass shootings where the shooter was already on the FBI radar and they did nothing about is now easily in the double digits.
    Arresting people in advance of the crime is a proposal that might face some opposition.
    The Feds did it with a war and no one that has power has complained for the last 20 years, a couple of people arrested should work just fine
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,920
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    Sledog said:
    And that's why this shooting immediately became about gun control.
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    LebamDawgLebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,545
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