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RaceBannon
RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,091 Founders Club
https://newsmax.com/us/politico-poll-immigration-citizenship/2021/03/24/id/1014967/

Support among Americans is "declining" for providing undocumented immigrants with a pathway for citizenship, including among Democrats, according to a new poll.

The poll, conducted by Politico/Morning Consult and released Wednesday, shows that 43% of voters overall think undocumented immigrants currently living in the United States should have a citizenship pathway, a 14 percentage point decline since January.

With Democrats, support plunged from 72% to 57% during that time period. Meanwhile, only 1 in 4 Republicans backs the idea, a number that dropped by 10 percentage points.

Of those polled, another 19% said illegal immigrants should be allowed to stay and become legal residents, but not citizens, and 27% said they should be removed or deported.

Most people surveyed also said they think the United States is facing an illegal immigration crisis:

Crisis: 50%.
Facing a problem, but not a crisis: 34%.
Not facing a problem or a crisis: 9%.
Most people, however, said they believe "Dreamers," or young people who were brought to the United States as children, should be able to stay and become citizens:

Stay and become citizens, under certain requirements: 62%.
Stay and become legal residents, but not citizens: 16%.
Be removed or deported from the United States, 14%.
The idea of giving undocumented immigrants a way to become citizens has been popular for several years, but the new poll numbers show Democrats could be losing the battle of public opinion in the wake of GOP messaging.

Not exactly GOP messaging now is it?

And people forget that early in his term Trump offered Chuck and Nancy a Dreamers deal that they refuse to consider

The Dreamers remain popular among Americans because its the kids even though most are adults now. But its a good place to compromise
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,091 Founders Club
    https://newsmax.com/politics/biden-immigration-visit-carrizo-springs/2021/03/24/id/1014970/

    Biden Permits Media Coverage of Admin Migrant Camp Visit


    President Joe Biden will meet with immigration advisers and top Cabinet officials on Wednesday while dispatching White House officials to a Texas resettlement facility as pressure mounts over a recent jump in migrant arrivals at the U.S. border.

    The officials, along with several members of Congress, will travel to a refugee resettlement center in Carrizo Springs, Texas, the White House said in a statement, adding that it would also allow limited media coverage of the visit.

    At the White House, Biden will meet with the heads of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security and the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, both of which are tasked with managing the migrants that have surged across the southern U.S. border with Mexico in recent weeks.

    Journalists have been pressing the Biden administration to allow the news media access to the facilities, as pictures released this week have moved to highlight the crowded conditions.


    Mighty white of Joe to allow the First Amendment to be followed
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,832 Standard Supporter
    Can Camela suck that much cock? Of course she can! that will at least slow them down some.
  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,792 Swaye's Wigwam
    Wood the blonde at :36


    Nice rack
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,091 Founders Club
    LebamDawg said:

    Wood the blonde at :36


    Nice rack

    This board man
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    LebamDawg said:

    Wood the blonde at :36


    Nice rack

    This board man
    #cesspool
    I hear it's a great place to make meaningful friendships. Want to talk fishing?
  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member Posts: 15,307
    I only know one Dreamer from my days working in that circle

    She’s scum
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    Buried the lede imho.


  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,091 Founders Club

    Buried the lede imho.


    Not really

    No one cares
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    Healthcare is tied for second in that poll for top priorities.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,091 Founders Club

    Healthcare is tied for second in that poll for top priorities.

    Bernie lost

    Biden doesn't care

    But it keeps you on the hook so there's that

    Unless the poll spells out the policy its worthless but that's familiar ground
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    Healthcare is tied for second in that poll for top priorities.

    Bernie lost

    Biden doesn't care

    But it keeps you on the hook so there's that

    Unless the poll spells out the policy its worthless but that's familiar ground
    It's another "would you be in favor of eating free ice cream all day if you knew you wouldn't gain a pound" poll.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    “where all Americans would get their health insurance from the government”

    Pretty spelled out to me.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,091 Founders Club

    “where all Americans would get their health insurance from the government”

    Pretty spelled out to me.

    You must be GOP








    See what I did there?

    Who pays what?
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    What I find most promising is that you and the libs have been running this “how are we going to pay for it” game on M4A for years and Bernie has said multiple times on network television that it would raise taxes, it’s still pulling 55%.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,091 Founders Club

    What I find most promising is that you and the libs have been running this “how are we going to pay for it” game on M4A for years and Bernie has said multiple times on network television that it would raise taxes, it’s still pulling 55%.

    That's still not a plan. Raise whose taxes how much? Can I keep my doctor and current insurance (if Obama hadn't ruined that)

    45% of the country doesn't pay income tax. Why would they care? Free baby!
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    Bernie answered those questions thousands of times. He wrote the damn bill and you’ve had 5 years to read it, couldn’t be bothered. You’re against it though, no clue how it works, no clue what it would do, definitely against it.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662

    Bernie answered those questions thousands of times. He wrote the damn bill and you’ve had 5 years to read it, couldn’t be bothered. You’re against it though, no clue how it works, no clue what it would do, definitely against it.

    Don't care
    Hate you

    Therefore against.

    Although I am all for more abortions and anything that fucks over current college nonsense with debt.
  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344

    Bernie answered those questions thousands of times. He wrote the damn bill and you’ve had 5 years to read it, couldn’t be bothered. You’re against it though, no clue how it works, no clue what it would do, definitely against it.

    You are the one that's clueless here. Bernie's yuge plan requires massive tax increases. You sort of hint that you know it but don't know how much it would affect everyone. It's at least a 10% increase in payroll taxes. That sounds super! The middle class would be slammed even harder and in most cases might end up paying even more for healthcare. Meanwhile rich folks will still have private insurance. Shows how little you understand how it works and instead how tied you are to your stupid ideology.
    The best healthcare plans I've seen are in Europe, most people pay through a private insurance plan. At least the governments there have fixed things, including price and how much pharma can charge. Yes, US healthcare is fucked up and the way it's financed is horrible. But this m4a fantasy is not the answer.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    hardhat said:

    Bernie answered those questions thousands of times. He wrote the damn bill and you’ve had 5 years to read it, couldn’t be bothered. You’re against it though, no clue how it works, no clue what it would do, definitely against it.

    You are the one that's clueless here. Bernie's yuge plan requires massive tax increases. You sort of hint that you know it but don't know how much it would affect everyone. It's at least a 10% increase in payroll taxes. That sounds super! The middle class would be slammed even harder and in most cases might end up paying even more for healthcare. Meanwhile rich folks will still have private insurance. Shows how little you understand how it works and instead how tied you are to your stupid ideology.
    The best healthcare plans I've seen are in Europe, most people pay through a private insurance plan. At least the governments there have fixed things, including price and how much pharma can charge. Yes, US healthcare is fucked up and the way it's financed is horrible. But this m4a fantasy is not the answer.
    I sure as fuck would push even harder to have fewer low level employees.

    I do now anyway though lol
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,091 Founders Club

    Bernie answered those questions thousands of times. He wrote the damn bill and you’ve had 5 years to read it, couldn’t be bothered. You’re against it though, no clue how it works, no clue what it would do, definitely against it.

    And yet Biden and the democrats told him to fuck off

    Let me know when that changes
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    SFGbob said:

    LebamDawg said:

    Wood the blonde at :36


    Nice rack

    This board man
    #cesspool
    I hear it's a great place to make meaningful friendships. Want to talk fishing?
    Gaybob has no friends.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959

    Bernie answered those questions thousands of times. He wrote the damn bill and you’ve had 5 years to read it, couldn’t be bothered. You’re against it though, no clue how it works, no clue what it would do, definitely against it.

    And yet Biden and the democrats told him to fuck off

    Let me know when that changes
    Only fascist can stop progress, liberals just slow us down.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662

    Bernie answered those questions thousands of times. He wrote the damn bill and you’ve had 5 years to read it, couldn’t be bothered. You’re against it though, no clue how it works, no clue what it would do, definitely against it.

    And yet Biden and the democrats told him to fuck off

    Let me know when that changes
    Only fascist can stop progress, liberals just slow us down.
    "A padawan would just slow me down"
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,091 Founders Club

    Bernie answered those questions thousands of times. He wrote the damn bill and you’ve had 5 years to read it, couldn’t be bothered. You’re against it though, no clue how it works, no clue what it would do, definitely against it.

    And yet Biden and the democrats told him to fuck off

    Let me know when that changes
    Only fascist can stop progress, liberals just slow us down.
    You can't blame me for your party punking you.

    Twice
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    Bernie answered those questions thousands of times. He wrote the damn bill and you’ve had 5 years to read it, couldn’t be bothered. You’re against it though, no clue how it works, no clue what it would do, definitely against it.

    Bernie is a looser. Worse than a one term president looser. A two (three?) tim primary looser sabotaged by ze’s own party.