If Hop stays, couple big men in the transfer portal they could look at.

Prestonluv said:

BroadcastingDawg said:

Prestonluv said:

About the only thing we have to offer right now is playing time.

Unfortunately there are other more high profile programs that can offer this as well. Add to the fact that our coach is a lame duck one and I dont think we will land the necessary recruits to get back on track.

Hop is gone next year but should be gone now.

I hope I'm wrong.

Washington has at least a little bit of a name... there's lots of current players in the NBA and they've had some decent success as a program over the last couple decades.

I have no idea if these transfers have any interest in UW... but I know we can't roll into next year w. Sorn and Roberts... any transfer PF with some decent ability should know that if they come here they'll get minutes and play for a Power Conference school w. some pedigree. And that's why most players transfer, they're seeking a little more attention or an increase in minutes.

I want hop to succeed. I have met him and he seems genuine and upbeat.

But he made some really big mistakes behind closed doors last year and he is paying the piper with recruiting

I dont think he can recover.

FremontTroll said:

BroadcastingDawg said:

PurpleThrobber said:

BroadcastingDawg said:

PurpleThrobber said:

What makes you think big guys would come to Hop for development?

These guys want PT and a chance to go to the next level.

If you're a big, the first place you're going is Gonzaga.

Hell, not even sure UW would be third in the State of Washington after watching the two bigs at WSU develop this year.

I mean that’s fine... except Hop just landed a 6’9 McDonalds All American PF in Jackson Grant...

So I’m not really sure recruits buy your narrative... and It’s not like I’m presenting these transfers as NBA-level ability talent... they’re solid, not special, but better than what we have.

Hop landed a 6'9" white boy from Oly.

Gonzaga is one of the finalists for the Gatorade National Player of the Year in 7'1" Chet Holgren.

You realize why Gonzaga might be a little higher interest for bigs than UW?

And Jackson and Abogidi are so far ahead of Grant, it's not even close.

I didn't say they weren't higher interest.

But getting a McDonald's All American Power Forward is a far cry from whatever the hell it is you're saying.

And Chet Holmgren has a ton of talent, but he's also a twig. I'll be surprised if he gets much playing time w. the Bulldogs until he puts on a good 30 lbs.

Arguing that the one recruit Hop landed over the last two cycles means anything other than nobody beats Vitas Gerulaitas 32 times in a row is ridiculous.

We can all agree he’s a nice guy. Great. He has failed at nearly every facet of his current job.

doogville said:

BroadcastingDawg said:

FremontTroll said:

BroadcastingDawg said:

PurpleThrobber said:

BroadcastingDawg said:

PurpleThrobber said:

What makes you think big guys would come to Hop for development?

These guys want PT and a chance to go to the next level.

If you're a big, the first place you're going is Gonzaga.

Hell, not even sure UW would be third in the State of Washington after watching the two bigs at WSU develop this year.

I mean that’s fine... except Hop just landed a 6’9 McDonalds All American PF in Jackson Grant...

So I’m not really sure recruits buy your narrative... and It’s not like I’m presenting these transfers as NBA-level ability talent... they’re solid, not special, but better than what we have.

Hop landed a 6'9" white boy from Oly.

Gonzaga is one of the finalists for the Gatorade National Player of the Year in 7'1" Chet Holgren.

You realize why Gonzaga might be a little higher interest for bigs than UW?

And Jackson and Abogidi are so far ahead of Grant, it's not even close.

I didn't say they weren't higher interest.

But getting a McDonald's All American Power Forward is a far cry from whatever the hell it is you're saying.

And Chet Holmgren has a ton of talent, but he's also a twig. I'll be surprised if he gets much playing time w. the Bulldogs until he puts on a good 30 lbs.

Arguing that the one recruit Hop landed over the last two cycles means anything other than nobody beats Vitas Gerulaitas 32 times in a row is ridiculous.

We can all agree he’s a nice guy. Great. He has failed at nearly every facet of his current job.

Ah right. Hop shouldn't have recruited him. Big mistake to get a McDonald's All American.

We're the worst team in the world and woe is us and fire Hop and the AD.

This is weird take. Grant actually does bleed purple & gold - thank god, because otherwise he wouldn’t be coming to UW. To credit this as some recruiting win for Hop is bizarre.

And yes, after arguably two of the worst seasons in program history, back fo back, spare folks if we are not optimistic about Hop & Jen.

And for me, Hop is what he is. Needs to be fired, of course. But Jen owns this. She hired hop, let then her ego get the best of her after two good years and signed a ridiculous contract.

Very much a rookie AD move. And like I said, a function of her thinking she doesn’t make mistakes.

That resulted in a first time head coach getting an insane buyout, one not justified by on the court accomplishments or threat of him leaving, that effectively makes it impossible to fire him after he tanks the program. Great work.

doogville said:

BroadcastingDawg said:

doogville said:

BroadcastingDawg said:

FremontTroll said:

BroadcastingDawg said:

PurpleThrobber said:

BroadcastingDawg said:

PurpleThrobber said:

What makes you think big guys would come to Hop for development?

These guys want PT and a chance to go to the next level.

If you're a big, the first place you're going is Gonzaga.

Hell, not even sure UW would be third in the State of Washington after watching the two bigs at WSU develop this year.

I mean that’s fine... except Hop just landed a 6’9 McDonalds All American PF in Jackson Grant...

So I’m not really sure recruits buy your narrative... and It’s not like I’m presenting these transfers as NBA-level ability talent... they’re solid, not special, but better than what we have.

Hop landed a 6'9" white boy from Oly.

Gonzaga is one of the finalists for the Gatorade National Player of the Year in 7'1" Chet Holgren.

You realize why Gonzaga might be a little higher interest for bigs than UW?

And Jackson and Abogidi are so far ahead of Grant, it's not even close.

I didn't say they weren't higher interest.

But getting a McDonald's All American Power Forward is a far cry from whatever the hell it is you're saying.

And Chet Holmgren has a ton of talent, but he's also a twig. I'll be surprised if he gets much playing time w. the Bulldogs until he puts on a good 30 lbs.

Arguing that the one recruit Hop landed over the last two cycles means anything other than nobody beats Vitas Gerulaitas 32 times in a row is ridiculous.

We can all agree he’s a nice guy. Great. He has failed at nearly every facet of his current job.

Ah right. Hop shouldn't have recruited him. Big mistake to get a McDonald's All American.

We're the worst team in the world and woe is us and fire Hop and the AD.

This is weird take. Grant actually does bleed purple & gold - thank god, because otherwise he wouldn’t be coming to UW. To credit this as some recruiting win for Hop is bizarre.

And yes, after arguably two of the worst seasons in program history, back fo back, spare folks if we are not optimistic about Hop & Jen.

And for me, Hop is what he is. Needs to be fired, of course. But Jen owns this. She hired hop, let then her ego get the best of her after two good years and signed a ridiculous contract.

Very much a rookie AD move. And like I said, a function of her thinking she doesn’t make mistakes.

That resulted in a first time head coach getting an insane buyout, one not justified by on the court accomplishments or threat of him leaving, that effectively makes it impossible to fire him after he tanks the program. Great work.

You wouldn't have thought it was a rookie mistake at the time so quit pretending in hindsight that Hop looked anything but a successful hire and someone the Huskies should have committed to long term.

As for Jackson Grant, discrediting Hop is a weird take considering the kid is fucking going to UW. You don't think there was a decision process the kid went through and Hop wasn't a part of landing him? I don't care if he bleeds Purple and Gold... you still gotta convince the kid to come and play basketball for you.

I didn’t have an issue extending Hop. It seemed fine at the time. I have an issue with the buyout terms. Which were ludicrous then & ludicrous now. If you are the AD, your job is not to read your news clips and think you are infallible and that every coach you hire is going to be awesome and be here forever and so fuck it, give them a gold-plated contract because why not?

A $12M+ buyout for mike Hopkins? That is BONKERS. Dude had won one (1) tournament game in his career. Her job is to negotiate contracts, and she got hosed. Which means she’s effectively not even in control of the bball program anymore - she couldn’t fire hop even if she wanted to. Great job, Jen!

As for grant, yes, you could have Amazon Alexa coaching the program & he would commit. He loves UW and has been a UW fan his entire life.