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JT Tuimoloau, 5* 2021 DL, Bellevue (Eastside Catholic), WA (Offered 9/22/17)
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I have a Samoan friend, and he told me the traditional Samoan father is the literal, absolute head of family, and his word is law, no questions asked.CallMeBigErn said:
Is it some sort of obligation for Samoan parents/families to take over their kid's recruitment? Marlon, Togiai, Kaho, Tootoo, and now JTT? In a just world, every single one of these players would be Dawgs. Sick of this shit. If you can't beat em, join em.backthepack said:UW or Ohio State. Papa Tui is pushing OSU.
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If these recruitments were on the level, that would be a fair argument, but these kids are clearly spurning UW for nefarious reasons. It's been proven in Marlon's and Tootoo's case. And we know Kaho and Togiai likely got Dodge Chargers or some shit. Fuck, man. Drives me crazy.WoolleyDoog said:Best guess is
To keep positive, I just always assume for every kid that has a parent or family member who makes them go somewhere else when it seems they actually want to go to UW, there's probably a kid who wanted to go somewhere else whose parents made him go to UW. I can think of a few specific standout players who come to mind.CallMeBigErn said:
Is it some sort of obligation for Samoan parents/families to take over their kid's recruitment? Marlon, Togiai, Kaho, Tootoo, and now JTT? In a just world, every single one of these players would be Dawgs. Sick of this shit. If you can't beat em, join em.backthepack said:UW or Ohio State. Papa Tui is pushing OSU.
Is there anything substantial to show JT is still seriously considering UW or is it just speculation because the longer this drags out and the longer he can't visit Ohio State, the more staying home or going to Oregon makes sense? -
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Hmmmnnn ... there are some benefits to that.Fishpo31 said:
I have a Samoan friend, and he told me the traditional Samoan father is the literal, absolute head of family, and his word is law, no questions asked.CallMeBigErn said:
Is it some sort of obligation for Samoan parents/families to take over their kid's recruitment? Marlon, Togiai, Kaho, Tootoo, and now JTT? In a just world, every single one of these players would be Dawgs. Sick of this shit. If you can't beat em, join em.backthepack said:UW or Ohio State. Papa Tui is pushing OSU.
"Wife! Stop making me that sandwich! Head to the bedroom ... (Bruce buffer voice) it's time!" -
his mom told him to say thatFishpo31 said:
I have a Samoan friend, and he told me the traditional Samoan father is the literal, absolute head of family, and his word is law, no questions asked.CallMeBigErn said:
Is it some sort of obligation for Samoan parents/families to take over their kid's recruitment? Marlon, Togiai, Kaho, Tootoo, and now JTT? In a just world, every single one of these players would be Dawgs. Sick of this shit. If you can't beat em, join em.backthepack said:UW or Ohio State. Papa Tui is pushing OSU.
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You're right - there's a difference between losing someone like N'Keal Harry who just ended up wanting to/having to stay home than these recent situations where it seems pretty clear something nefarious stepped in but following UW football now is just finding ways to cope. I'll clarify that I don't think there's nearly enough to put JT in that category.CallMeBigErn said:
If these recruitments were on the level, that would be a fair argument, but these kids are clearly spurning UW for nefarious reasons. It's been proven in Marlon's and Tootoo's case. And we know Kaho and Togiai likely got Dodge Chargers or some shit. Fuck, man. Drives me crazy.WoolleyDoog said:Best guess is
To keep positive, I just always assume for every kid that has a parent or family member who makes them go somewhere else when it seems they actually want to go to UW, there's probably a kid who wanted to go somewhere else whose parents made him go to UW. I can think of a few specific standout players who come to mind.CallMeBigErn said:
Is it some sort of obligation for Samoan parents/families to take over their kid's recruitment? Marlon, Togiai, Kaho, Tootoo, and now JTT? In a just world, every single one of these players would be Dawgs. Sick of this shit. If you can't beat em, join em.backthepack said:UW or Ohio State. Papa Tui is pushing OSU.
Is there anything substantial to show JT is still seriously considering UW or is it just speculation because the longer this drags out and the longer he can't visit Ohio State, the more staying home or going to Oregon makes sense?
Honestly, it feels like he's someone who people have either made up whatever seems likely by reading tea leaves/momentum with his recruitment because he doesn't talk or he has never truly known where he wanted to go and is heavily swayed by short-term momentum given this timeline:
1. First interviews mentions Stanford as his dream school - huh?
2. Rumors he was seen wearing a ton of Clemson stuff and talking up Clemson after they win a title
3. Smoke he may commit to UW back when Petersen was still around and before the 2019 collapse
4. Ohio State emerges as the far away leader once COVID hits and it seems they start putting heat on him
5. Oregon starts getting momentum in their recruiting class and then emerges as a serious contender if not favorite
6. Alabama checks Ohio State in the national title game and now they're right there with Ohio State again
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No evidence, but I'm failing to understand why Papa Tui would be pushing for Ohio State.WoolleyDoog said:
I'll clarify that I don't think there's nearly enough to put JT in that category.CallMeBigErn said:
If these recruitments were on the level, that would be a fair argument, but these kids are clearly spurning UW for nefarious reasons. It's been proven in Marlon's and Tootoo's case. And we know Kaho and Togiai likely got Dodge Chargers or some shit. Fuck, man. Drives me crazy.WoolleyDoog said:Best guess is
To keep positive, I just always assume for every kid that has a parent or family member who makes them go somewhere else when it seems they actually want to go to UW, there's probably a kid who wanted to go somewhere else whose parents made him go to UW. I can think of a few specific standout players who come to mind.CallMeBigErn said:
Is it some sort of obligation for Samoan parents/families to take over their kid's recruitment? Marlon, Togiai, Kaho, Tootoo, and now JTT? In a just world, every single one of these players would be Dawgs. Sick of this shit. If you can't beat em, join em.backthepack said:UW or Ohio State. Papa Tui is pushing OSU.
Is there anything substantial to show JT is still seriously considering UW or is it just speculation because the longer this drags out and the longer he can't visit Ohio State, the more staying home or going to Oregon makes sense? -
The dad might just think that Ohio State offers a higher profile and has developed three recent out of this world DEs. If it is a bag thing and UW can't match or outmatch as a school with the donor base in Seattle that they are Ohio State's bags for a recruit like this the program might as well drop down to the Mountain West.CallMeBigErn said:
No evidence, but I'm failing to understand why Papa Tui would be pushing for Ohio State.WoolleyDoog said:
I'll clarify that I don't think there's nearly enough to put JT in that category.CallMeBigErn said:
If these recruitments were on the level, that would be a fair argument, but these kids are clearly spurning UW for nefarious reasons. It's been proven in Marlon's and Tootoo's case. And we know Kaho and Togiai likely got Dodge Chargers or some shit. Fuck, man. Drives me crazy.WoolleyDoog said:Best guess is
To keep positive, I just always assume for every kid that has a parent or family member who makes them go somewhere else when it seems they actually want to go to UW, there's probably a kid who wanted to go somewhere else whose parents made him go to UW. I can think of a few specific standout players who come to mind.CallMeBigErn said:
Is it some sort of obligation for Samoan parents/families to take over their kid's recruitment? Marlon, Togiai, Kaho, Tootoo, and now JTT? In a just world, every single one of these players would be Dawgs. Sick of this shit. If you can't beat em, join em.backthepack said:UW or Ohio State. Papa Tui is pushing OSU.
Is there anything substantial to show JT is still seriously considering UW or is it just speculation because the longer this drags out and the longer he can't visit Ohio State, the more staying home or going to Oregon makes sense? -
Fishpo31 said:
I have a Samoan friend, and he told me the traditional Samoan father is the literal, absolute head of family, and his word is law, no questions asked.CallMeBigErn said:
Is it some sort of obligation for Samoan parents/families to take over their kid's recruitment? Marlon, Togiai, Kaho, Tootoo, and now JTT? In a just world, every single one of these players would be Dawgs. Sick of this shit. If you can't beat em, join em.backthepack said:UW or Ohio State. Papa Tui is pushing OSU.
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No matter how bad things get as an overbearing father ....Kellen Winslow Sr has to take the cake for douche father. My son has behavioral issue ...let's send him across the country to Miami. Enjoy your Daddy/Son prison visits asshole.
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I roll my eyes every time a TBSer shits on a coach for losing a prospect because, "It's sales°." If I'm bidding against a competitor, and the competitor says, "I'll pay you to do the job!" No amount of sales or awesomeness is going to overcome that.CallMeBigErn said:
If these recruitments were on the level, that would be a fair argument, but these kids are clearly spurning UW for nefarious reasons. It's been proven in Marlon's and Tootoo's case. And we know Kaho and Togiai likely got Dodge Chargers or some shit. Fuck, man. Drives me crazy.WoolleyDoog said:Best guess is
To keep positive, I just always assume for every kid that has a parent or family member who makes them go somewhere else when it seems they actually want to go to UW, there's probably a kid who wanted to go somewhere else whose parents made him go to UW. I can think of a few specific standout players who come to mind.CallMeBigErn said:
Is it some sort of obligation for Samoan parents/families to take over their kid's recruitment? Marlon, Togiai, Kaho, Tootoo, and now JTT? In a just world, every single one of these players would be Dawgs. Sick of this shit. If you can't beat em, join em.backthepack said:UW or Ohio State. Papa Tui is pushing OSU.
Is there anything substantial to show JT is still seriously considering UW or is it just speculation because the longer this drags out and the longer he can't visit Ohio State, the more staying home or going to Oregon makes sense?
I've said it before and I'll say it again: "Sales" has little to do with it. Sure, being likeable and giving a shit/working hard to stay in communication with a PSA and make him feel important helps, but that's baseline shit, and I have a hard time believing that there's any coach that doesn't at least make a half assed effort at this. Which is to say the difference between the best recruiter in the country an the worst when it comes to pure "salesmanship" is WAY smaller than the difference between one school and another in terms of benefits--both on the level and not.
There are simply players/families who will take the biggest bag. We all know that programs that are offering the biggest bags. There are players who want to chase rings. There are players who want to play for a name brand. There are players who want to play close to home (Dads won't fly).
Which is why, honestly, I'm not as conspiratorial now as I used to be. With JTT, for instance, I don't at all immediately jump to the "he's taking a bag" conclusion. Say what you will about Petersen's offense or lack of motivation/success at the end, but he was a brand that was trusted. When a hometown kid passed that up to go to the likes of OSU, that's suspicious. Not knocking Lake necessarily, but UW does now have a first time head coach with no such national cachet. It's a lot more understandable now that a PSA would want to take a safer bed than rolling the dice with the new guy. If Lake starts stacking conference titles and winning decent bowl games (Narrator: "He won't...") and this kind of recruiting loss keeps happening, I'll go back to being awfully cynical.
UW is coming off a 4-5 conference record and a 3-1 season full of embarrassing play and a loss to a team fresh from the Denny's parking lot. That's not a "get the local 5-star to stay home" resume. It's that simple to me. -
So you have to decide how you're going to recruit. If you want to recruit the top players you better have a big bag. If you don't want to play the game go for the scrappy three stars like the rest of the Pac 12
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Lake is no longer a 1st time coach now.
Pac-12 North Champions!
Donovan > Hamden
Did Malloe get a bump in pay? Also, would love to see Rowan earn his promotion by getting JTT to pop. -
My guy found out, or, as the kids say, he fucked around and found out...One too many curfew misses as a HS senior, and his plans suddenly were changed from UW to CL (Camp Lejeune)...ITHFHSLebamDawg said:
his mom told him to say thatFishpo31 said:
I have a Samoan friend, and he told me the traditional Samoan father is the literal, absolute head of family, and his word is law, no questions asked.CallMeBigErn said:
Is it some sort of obligation for Samoan parents/families to take over their kid's recruitment? Marlon, Togiai, Kaho, Tootoo, and now JTT? In a just world, every single one of these players would be Dawgs. Sick of this shit. If you can't beat em, join em.backthepack said:UW or Ohio State. Papa Tui is pushing OSU.
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Fun fact... I'm named after Kellen Winslow Sr.DawgDaze71 said:No matter how bad things get as an overbearing father ....Kellen Winslow Sr has to take the cake for douche father. My son has behavioral issue ...let's send him across the country to Miami. Enjoy your Daddy/Son prison visits asshole.
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This is well said. I've come around a bit to the idea that losing these elite recruits simply can come down to UW not having a ton to sell and not being able to sell it in the best way possible and in 2021, these kids don't have a ton of obligation to feel like they have to rep their home state and many probably don't even see playing at UW as even doing that. They don't care if a handful of random grown men who are Husky fans won't like them if they go somewhere else, including Oregon.1to392831weretaken said:
I roll my eyes every time a TBSer shits on a coach for losing a prospect because, "It's sales°." If I'm bidding against a competitor, and the competitor says, "I'll pay you to do the job!" No amount of sales or awesomeness is going to overcome that.CallMeBigErn said:
If these recruitments were on the level, that would be a fair argument, but these kids are clearly spurning UW for nefarious reasons. It's been proven in Marlon's and Tootoo's case. And we know Kaho and Togiai likely got Dodge Chargers or some shit. Fuck, man. Drives me crazy.WoolleyDoog said:Best guess is
To keep positive, I just always assume for every kid that has a parent or family member who makes them go somewhere else when it seems they actually want to go to UW, there's probably a kid who wanted to go somewhere else whose parents made him go to UW. I can think of a few specific standout players who come to mind.CallMeBigErn said:
Is it some sort of obligation for Samoan parents/families to take over their kid's recruitment? Marlon, Togiai, Kaho, Tootoo, and now JTT? In a just world, every single one of these players would be Dawgs. Sick of this shit. If you can't beat em, join em.backthepack said:UW or Ohio State. Papa Tui is pushing OSU.
Is there anything substantial to show JT is still seriously considering UW or is it just speculation because the longer this drags out and the longer he can't visit Ohio State, the more staying home or going to Oregon makes sense?
I've said it before and I'll say it again: "Sales" has little to do with it. Sure, being likeable and giving a shit/working hard to stay in communication with a PSA and make him feel important helps, but that's baseline shit, and I have a hard time believing that there's any coach that doesn't at least make a half assed effort at this. Which is to say the difference between the best recruiter in the country an the worst when it comes to pure "salesmanship" is WAY smaller than the difference between one school and another in terms of benefits--both on the level and not.
There are simply players/families who will take the biggest bag. We all know that programs that are offering the biggest bags. There are players who want to chase rings. There are players who want to play for a name brand. There are players who want to play close to home (Dads won't fly).
Which is why, honestly, I'm not as conspiratorial now as I used to be. With JTT, for instance, I don't at all immediately jump to the "he's taking a bag" conclusion. Say what you will about Petersen's offense or lack of motivation/success at the end, but he was a brand that was trusted. When a hometown kid passed that up to go to the likes of OSU, that's suspicious. Not knocking Lake necessarily, but UW does now have a first time head coach with no such national cachet. It's a lot more understandable now that a PSA would want to take a safer bed than rolling the dice with the new guy. If Lake starts stacking conference titles and winning decent bowl games (Narrator: "He won't...") and this kind of recruiting loss keeps happening, I'll go back to being awfully cynical.
UW is coming off a 4-5 conference record and a 3-1 season full of embarrassing play and a loss to a team fresh from the Denny's parking lot. That's not a "get the local 5-star to stay home" resume. It's that simple to me.
I actually thought about it from the Oregon side when they were not far removed from playing for national titles at all but they were down and guys in their state like Marlon and Molden (who was also a legacy) were gravitating towards UW, who was up at the time, and from what I remember, weren't even that serious about going to their in-state school and none of us really thought it was that crazy.
I'd much rather lose a kid to Alabama or maybe Clemson where you probably go if you truly want to win a national title but (probably been said a zillion times on this board) losing a kid to Ohio State isn't that crazy. Though I think it's a little bit underplayed that Ohio State is kind of a elite level jobber and won their only two national titles in the modern era in strange fashion and the Big 10 is a little overrated the past 20 years. Still, I'd kill for UW to have what they have. -
Are you a fucking soldiers like his son? Do you like to pork @Babushka s tooCallMeBigErn said:
Fun fact... I'm named after Kellen Winslow Sr.DawgDaze71 said:No matter how bad things get as an overbearing father ....Kellen Winslow Sr has to take the cake for douche father. My son has behavioral issue ...let's send him across the country to Miami. Enjoy your Daddy/Son prison visits asshole.
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Do you speak english, sir? Parla usted ingles?FireCohen said:
Are you a fucking soldiers like his son? Do you like to pork @Babushka s tooCallMeBigErn said:
Fun fact... I'm named after Kellen Winslow Sr.DawgDaze71 said:No matter how bad things get as an overbearing father ....Kellen Winslow Sr has to take the cake for douche father. My son has behavioral issue ...let's send him across the country to Miami. Enjoy your Daddy/Son prison visits asshole.
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Just in case ...CallMeBigErn said:
Do you speak english, sir? Parla usted ingles?FireCohen said:
Are you a fucking soldiers like his son? Do you like to pork @Babushka s tooCallMeBigErn said:
Fun fact... I'm named after Kellen Winslow Sr.DawgDaze71 said:No matter how bad things get as an overbearing father ....Kellen Winslow Sr has to take the cake for douche father. My son has behavioral issue ...let's send him across the country to Miami. Enjoy your Daddy/Son prison visits asshole.
Winslow a long time ago compared himself to a soldier in a famous locker room interview. This was during a time when it wasn't cool to say something like that. (Not that it's cool now)
While winslow fell off the wagon he was doing crazy shit like raping grandmothers and homeless women...
All this and not even mentioning that while he was still playing professional football he reportedly would obviously jack off during a team flight on a laptop watching porn ... Yeesh man. -
You did not get the joke I guessCallMeBigErn said:
Do you speak english, sir? Parla usted ingles?FireCohen said:
Are you a fucking soldiers like his son? Do you like to pork @Babushka s tooCallMeBigErn said:
Fun fact... I'm named after Kellen Winslow Sr.DawgDaze71 said:No matter how bad things get as an overbearing father ....Kellen Winslow Sr has to take the cake for douche father. My son has behavioral issue ...let's send him across the country to Miami. Enjoy your Daddy/Son prison visits asshole.
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If it had made grammatical sense, I might have gotten there.FireCohen said:
You did not get the joke I guessCallMeBigErn said:
Do you speak english, sir? Parla usted ingles?FireCohen said:
Are you a fucking soldiers like his son? Do you like to pork @Babushka s tooCallMeBigErn said:
Fun fact... I'm named after Kellen Winslow Sr.DawgDaze71 said:No matter how bad things get as an overbearing father ....Kellen Winslow Sr has to take the cake for douche father. My son has behavioral issue ...let's send him across the country to Miami. Enjoy your Daddy/Son prison visits asshole.
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OkCallMeBigErn said:
If it had made grammatical sense, I might have gotten there.FireCohen said:
You did not get the joke I guessCallMeBigErn said:
Do you speak english, sir? Parla usted ingles?FireCohen said:
Are you a fucking soldiers like his son? Do you like to pork @Babushka s tooCallMeBigErn said:
Fun fact... I'm named after Kellen Winslow Sr.DawgDaze71 said:No matter how bad things get as an overbearing father ....Kellen Winslow Sr has to take the cake for douche father. My son has behavioral issue ...let's send him across the country to Miami. Enjoy your Daddy/Son prison visits asshole.
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A lot of discussion here....and it’s still tOSU.
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RacistCallMeBigErn said:
Is it some sort of obligation for Samoan parents/families to take over their kid's recruitment? Marlon, Togiai, Kaho, Tootoo, and now JTT? In a just world, every single one of these players would be Dawgs. Sick of this shit. If you can't beat em, join em.backthepack said:UW or Ohio State. Papa Tui is pushing OSU.
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animate said:
Just in case ...CallMeBigErn said:
Do you speak english, sir? Parla usted ingles?FireCohen said:
Are you a fucking soldiers like his son? Do you like to pork @Babushka s tooCallMeBigErn said:
Fun fact... I'm named after Kellen Winslow Sr.DawgDaze71 said:No matter how bad things get as an overbearing father ....Kellen Winslow Sr has to take the cake for douche father. My son has behavioral issue ...let's send him across the country to Miami. Enjoy your Daddy/Son prison visits asshole.
Winslow a long time ago compared himself to a soldier in a famous locker room interview. This was during a time when it wasn't cool to say something like that. (Not that it's cool now)
While winslow fell off the wagon he was doing crazy shit like raping grandmothers and homeless women...
All this and not even mentioning that while he was still playing professional football he reportedly would obviously jack off during a team flight on a laptop watching porn ... Yeesh man.
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Mooser42 said:animate said:
Just in case ...CallMeBigErn said:
Do you speak english, sir? Parla usted ingles?FireCohen said:
Are you a fucking soldiers like his son? Do you like to pork @Babushka s tooCallMeBigErn said:
Fun fact... I'm named after Kellen Winslow Sr.DawgDaze71 said:No matter how bad things get as an overbearing father ....Kellen Winslow Sr has to take the cake for douche father. My son has behavioral issue ...let's send him across the country to Miami. Enjoy your Daddy/Son prison visits asshole.
Winslow a long time ago compared himself to a soldier in a famous locker room interview. This was during a time when it wasn't cool to say something like that. (Not that it's cool now)
While winslow fell off the wagon he was doing crazy shit like raping grandmothers and homeless women...
All this and not even mentioning that while he was still playing professional football he reportedly would obviously jack off during a team flight on a laptop watching porn ... Yeesh man.
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If you're failing to understand why Papa Tui is pushing his son to a top 3 blue blood program with arguably the best DL coach in the country, that has produced three of the best NFL DL in just the last five years, and also has another EC alum on the roster to boot, then you might be a fucking idiot.CallMeBigErn said:
No evidence, but I'm failing to understand why Papa Tui would be pushing for Ohio State.WoolleyDoog said:
I'll clarify that I don't think there's nearly enough to put JT in that category.CallMeBigErn said:
If these recruitments were on the level, that would be a fair argument, but these kids are clearly spurning UW for nefarious reasons. It's been proven in Marlon's and Tootoo's case. And we know Kaho and Togiai likely got Dodge Chargers or some shit. Fuck, man. Drives me crazy.WoolleyDoog said:Best guess is
To keep positive, I just always assume for every kid that has a parent or family member who makes them go somewhere else when it seems they actually want to go to UW, there's probably a kid who wanted to go somewhere else whose parents made him go to UW. I can think of a few specific standout players who come to mind.CallMeBigErn said:
Is it some sort of obligation for Samoan parents/families to take over their kid's recruitment? Marlon, Togiai, Kaho, Tootoo, and now JTT? In a just world, every single one of these players would be Dawgs. Sick of this shit. If you can't beat em, join em.backthepack said:UW or Ohio State. Papa Tui is pushing OSU.
Is there anything substantial to show JT is still seriously considering UW or is it just speculation because the longer this drags out and the longer he can't visit Ohio State, the more staying home or going to Oregon makes sense?
But sure, Samoans are just susceptible to bribes, or whatever your racist babble was. -
There's been a trend of Samoan players being pulled away from UW by dad's/family's wishes. We've seen it happen many times now. 5 times in recent years and JTT's dad is now "pushing" Ohio State.GreenRiverGatorz said:
If you're failing to understand why Papa Tui is pushing his son to a top 3 blue blood program with arguably the best DL coach in the country, that has produced three of the best NFL DL in just the last five years, and also has another EC alum on the roster to boot, then you might be a fucking idiot.CallMeBigErn said:
No evidence, but I'm failing to understand why Papa Tui would be pushing for Ohio State.WoolleyDoog said:
I'll clarify that I don't think there's nearly enough to put JT in that category.CallMeBigErn said:
If these recruitments were on the level, that would be a fair argument, but these kids are clearly spurning UW for nefarious reasons. It's been proven in Marlon's and Tootoo's case. And we know Kaho and Togiai likely got Dodge Chargers or some shit. Fuck, man. Drives me crazy.WoolleyDoog said:Best guess is
To keep positive, I just always assume for every kid that has a parent or family member who makes them go somewhere else when it seems they actually want to go to UW, there's probably a kid who wanted to go somewhere else whose parents made him go to UW. I can think of a few specific standout players who come to mind.CallMeBigErn said:
Is it some sort of obligation for Samoan parents/families to take over their kid's recruitment? Marlon, Togiai, Kaho, Tootoo, and now JTT? In a just world, every single one of these players would be Dawgs. Sick of this shit. If you can't beat em, join em.backthepack said:UW or Ohio State. Papa Tui is pushing OSU.
Is there anything substantial to show JT is still seriously considering UW or is it just speculation because the longer this drags out and the longer he can't visit Ohio State, the more staying home or going to Oregon makes sense?
But sure, Samoans are just susceptible to bribes, or whatever your racist babble was.
Call that racist if you wish but it's just an observation. You're reading between the lines too much. -
Which is chinteresting because UW should have two DL / edge guys (Levi and Tyron) drafted before tOSU has even one drafted this year.GreenRiverGatorz said:
If you're failing to understand why Papa Tui is pushing his son to a top 3 blue blood program with arguably the best DL coach in the country, that has produced three of the best NFL DL in just the last five years, and also has another EC alum on the roster to boot, then you might be a fucking idiot.CallMeBigErn said:
No evidence, but I'm failing to understand why Papa Tui would be pushing for Ohio State.WoolleyDoog said:
I'll clarify that I don't think there's nearly enough to put JT in that category.CallMeBigErn said:
If these recruitments were on the level, that would be a fair argument, but these kids are clearly spurning UW for nefarious reasons. It's been proven in Marlon's and Tootoo's case. And we know Kaho and Togiai likely got Dodge Chargers or some shit. Fuck, man. Drives me crazy.WoolleyDoog said:Best guess is
To keep positive, I just always assume for every kid that has a parent or family member who makes them go somewhere else when it seems they actually want to go to UW, there's probably a kid who wanted to go somewhere else whose parents made him go to UW. I can think of a few specific standout players who come to mind.CallMeBigErn said:
Is it some sort of obligation for Samoan parents/families to take over their kid's recruitment? Marlon, Togiai, Kaho, Tootoo, and now JTT? In a just world, every single one of these players would be Dawgs. Sick of this shit. If you can't beat em, join em.backthepack said:UW or Ohio State. Papa Tui is pushing OSU.
Is there anything substantial to show JT is still seriously considering UW or is it just speculation because the longer this drags out and the longer he can't visit Ohio State, the more staying home or going to Oregon makes sense?
But sure, Samoans are just susceptible to bribes, or whatever your racist babble was.
