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WestlinnDuck
WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,553 Standard Supporter
In February 2020 the US economy was strong, the border was sort of defended and American private sector wages were rising at a record pace and we had record minority low employment. Then leftards decided to destroy the economy and did so leaving tens of millions unemployed. Now, they want to regulate tens of millions of free lance jobs out of existence. The massive overhead of treating independent contractors as employees will result in the elimination of those jobs. AOC learned all about how government regulations create jobs when she got her degree in economics. Geezus.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/biden-just-endorsed-a-law-that-endangers-57-million-jobs

With the rise of gig economy jobs such as driving for Uber and other forms of independent work enabled by the digital era, more than 57 million Americans now work as freelancers in some capacity. But President Biden just endorsed a radical labor law that endangers their livelihood.

House Democrats recently reintroduced the PRO Act, which, among many sweeping reforms, would make many commonplace forms of independent contractor (freelance) arrangements illegal. It’s based on a California law that was so dysfunctional even voters in the very blue state voted to change it.

“The Administration strongly encourages the House to pass [the PRO Act] and looks forward to working with the Congress to enact this critical legislation that safeguards workers’ rights to organize and bargain collectively,” the White House said in a statement on Monday. “The PRO Act will strengthen our democracy and advance dignity in the workplace.”

Far from “advancing dignity,” in reality, this law would strip millions of their income.

Comments

  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,897
    The “independent contractor” dodge is especially pervasive. It needs reform and clarification. You could critique any bill on whether it accomplishes those goals, but this just your trademark grumpy old man rant.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,767 Founders Club
    Why aren't lawyer's in a union?

    rhetorical

    We fought a decade long battle with the state of washington on independent contractors and won. I always let the union reps talk to our crews and they always told the union to fuck off. 100K a year in the 80's

    Or 17 bucks an hour with hours regulated. Tough call

    Yeah you had to work hard and buy your own insurance but Obamacare wasn't in effect so not a big deal

    Point is the people decided and knew what was best for them when the state wanted to slash their pay

    Uber drivers in Cali voted this shit down. Unions are worthless unless your a public leech. If they weren't people would join them
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,897
    thechatch said:

    As an IC, let me communicate loudly and clearly to HH.

    Go fuck yourself.

    Too derivative and hard to dance to.

    I give it a 34.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,030
    edited March 2021
    God, I love that 5th fuck off.

    Smells like Napalm in the Morning.

  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,146 Founders Club

    God, I love that 5th fuck off.

    Smells like Napalm in the Morning.

    But the shitpoast doesn't disappear anymore. It used to mean something.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,030
    edited March 2021
    RoadTrip said:

    God, I love that 5th fuck off.

    Smells like Napalm in the Morning.

    But the shitpoast doesn't disappear anymore. It used to mean something.
    Leave it to Vanilla to fuck up a good thing.

    The Throbber is still going to claim that as the "you're a dumb motherfucker' baseline.



  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    HHusky said:

    thechatch said:

    As an IC, let me communicate loudly and clearly to HH.

    Go fuck yourself.

    Too derivative and hard to dance to.

    I give it a 34.
    No bumper stickers for the Dazzler.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,029

    Why aren't lawyer's in a union?

    rhetorical

    We fought a decade long battle with the state of washington on independent contractors and won. I always let the union reps talk to our crews and they always told the union to fuck off. 100K a year in the 80's

    Or 17 bucks an hour with hours regulated. Tough call

    Yeah you had to work hard and buy your own insurance but Obamacare wasn't in effect so not a big deal

    Point is the people decided and knew what was best for them when the state wanted to slash their pay

    Uber drivers in Cali voted this shit down. Unions are worthless unless your a public leech. If they weren't people would join them

    Because we're REAL Americans.

    HtH
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,897
    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    thechatch said:

    As an IC, let me communicate loudly and clearly to HH.

    Go fuck yourself.

    Too derivative and hard to dance to.

    I give it a 34.
    No bumper stickers for the Dazzler.
    What portion of your money isn't your money, blob? It's your argument. Explain it.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    thechatch said:

    As an IC, let me communicate loudly and clearly to HH.

    Go fuck yourself.

    Too derivative and hard to dance to.

    I give it a 34.
    No bumper stickers for the Dazzler.
    What portion of your money isn't your money, blob? It's your argument. Explain it.
    You already know my position on this Dazzler but you are an old fucker so I'll concede you may have forgotten. The good lord only asks for 10%, I'll be generous and give Caesar 15%. Over that, fuck off.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,767 Founders Club

    Why aren't lawyer's in a union?

    rhetorical

    We fought a decade long battle with the state of washington on independent contractors and won. I always let the union reps talk to our crews and they always told the union to fuck off. 100K a year in the 80's

    Or 17 bucks an hour with hours regulated. Tough call

    Yeah you had to work hard and buy your own insurance but Obamacare wasn't in effect so not a big deal

    Point is the people decided and knew what was best for them when the state wanted to slash their pay

    Uber drivers in Cali voted this shit down. Unions are worthless unless your a public leech. If they weren't people would join them

    Because we're REAL Americans.

    HtH
    My floor crews were even more American
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,767 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    thechatch said:

    As an IC, let me communicate loudly and clearly to HH.

    Go fuck yourself.

    Too derivative and hard to dance to.

    I give it a 34.
    No bumper stickers for the Dazzler.
    What portion of your money isn't your money, blob? It's your argument. Explain it.
    So why don't we have all income and investment money we all earn sent direct to the government since your bizarre insistence that its not our money means you can spend as much as you want

    Then they can send back "our" money

    Are you some kind of a retard?
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,553 Standard Supporter

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    thechatch said:

    As an IC, let me communicate loudly and clearly to HH.

    Go fuck yourself.

    Too derivative and hard to dance to.

    I give it a 34.
    No bumper stickers for the Dazzler.
    What portion of your money isn't your money, blob? It's your argument. Explain it.
    So why don't we have all income and investment money we all earn sent direct to the government since your bizarre insistence that its not our money means you can spend as much as you want

    Then they can send back "our" money

    Are you some kind of a retard?
    He has a mythical MBA which is worth as much as AOCs economics degree. Neither do taxes and want the government to supply everything. Worked so well throughout history. Government has ruined Cali.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,030
    edited March 2021

    Why aren't lawyer's in a union?

    rhetorical

    We fought a decade long battle with the state of washington on independent contractors and won. I always let the union reps talk to our crews and they always told the union to fuck off. 100K a year in the 80's

    Or 17 bucks an hour with hours regulated. Tough call

    Yeah you had to work hard and buy your own insurance but Obamacare wasn't in effect so not a big deal

    Point is the people decided and knew what was best for them when the state wanted to slash their pay

    Uber drivers in Cali voted this shit down. Unions are worthless unless your a public leech. If they weren't people would join them

    Because we're REAL Americans.

    HtH
    There was a time when teachers weren't unionized either because they were considered and considered themselves as professionals. Not quite at the status of lawyer, doctors but the next rung down of educated people.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,553 Standard Supporter
    Unfortunately, teacher's are now among the least educated and what they "know" is a result of indoctrination not education. Bottom feeders at our education system. Go read about Jill Biden's doctor in education. Couldn't be more of a fake degree.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,897
    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    thechatch said:

    As an IC, let me communicate loudly and clearly to HH.

    Go fuck yourself.

    Too derivative and hard to dance to.

    I give it a 34.
    No bumper stickers for the Dazzler.
    What portion of your money isn't your money, blob? It's your argument. Explain it.
    You already know my position on this Dazzler but you are an old fucker so I'll concede you may have forgotten. The good lord only asks for 10%, I'll be generous and give Caesar 15%. Over that, fuck off.
    I'm familiar with your 25% figure, blob. (And I doubt your effective rate of Federal income tax exceeds 25%). But that 25% figure doesn't explain anything. Isn't the 25% your money too?
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,897
    edited March 2021

    Why aren't lawyer's in a union?

    rhetorical

    We fought a decade long battle with the state of washington on independent contractors and won. I always let the union reps talk to our crews and they always told the union to fuck off. 100K a year in the 80's

    Or 17 bucks an hour with hours regulated. Tough call

    Yeah you had to work hard and buy your own insurance but Obamacare wasn't in effect so not a big deal

    Point is the people decided and knew what was best for them when the state wanted to slash their pay

    Uber drivers in Cali voted this shit down. Unions are worthless unless your a public leech. If they weren't people would join them

    Because we're REAL Americans.

    HtH
    There was a time when teachers weren't unionized either because they were considered and considered themselves as professionals. Not quite at the status of lawyer, doctors but the next rung down of educated people.
    There was a time when the vast majority of teachers were women because you didn't need to pay women much.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    thechatch said:

    As an IC, let me communicate loudly and clearly to HH.

    Go fuck yourself.

    Too derivative and hard to dance to.

    I give it a 34.
    No bumper stickers for the Dazzler.
    What portion of your money isn't your money, blob? It's your argument. Explain it.
    You already know my position on this Dazzler but you are an old fucker so I'll concede you may have forgotten. The good lord only asks for 10%, I'll be generous and give Caesar 15%. Over that, fuck off.
    I'm familiar with your 25% figure, blob. (And I doubt your effective rate of Federal income tax exceeds 25%). But that 25% figure doesn't explain anything. Isn't the 25% your money too?
    Sweet Geezus Dazzler, has old age made you illiterate?
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    HHusky said:

    Why aren't lawyer's in a union?

    rhetorical

    We fought a decade long battle with the state of washington on independent contractors and won. I always let the union reps talk to our crews and they always told the union to fuck off. 100K a year in the 80's

    Or 17 bucks an hour with hours regulated. Tough call

    Yeah you had to work hard and buy your own insurance but Obamacare wasn't in effect so not a big deal

    Point is the people decided and knew what was best for them when the state wanted to slash their pay

    Uber drivers in Cali voted this shit down. Unions are worthless unless your a public leech. If they weren't people would join them

    Because we're REAL Americans.

    HtH
    There was a time when teachers weren't unionized either because they were considered and considered themselves as professionals. Not quite at the status of lawyer, doctors but the next rung down of educated people.
    There was a time when the vast majority of teachers were women because you didn't need to pay women much.
    That time is still today. Most teachers are still women and given the quality of their work most are vastly overpaid.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,897
    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    thechatch said:

    As an IC, let me communicate loudly and clearly to HH.

    Go fuck yourself.

    Too derivative and hard to dance to.

    I give it a 34.
    No bumper stickers for the Dazzler.
    What portion of your money isn't your money, blob? It's your argument. Explain it.
    You already know my position on this Dazzler but you are an old fucker so I'll concede you may have forgotten. The good lord only asks for 10%, I'll be generous and give Caesar 15%. Over that, fuck off.
    I'm familiar with your 25% figure, blob. (And I doubt your effective rate of Federal income tax exceeds 25%). But that 25% figure doesn't explain anything. Isn't the 25% your money too?
    Sweet Geezus Dazzler, has old age made you illiterate?
    One of us is having trouble tracking.

    My money (see what I did there?) is on you.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,897
    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    Why aren't lawyer's in a union?

    rhetorical

    We fought a decade long battle with the state of washington on independent contractors and won. I always let the union reps talk to our crews and they always told the union to fuck off. 100K a year in the 80's

    Or 17 bucks an hour with hours regulated. Tough call

    Yeah you had to work hard and buy your own insurance but Obamacare wasn't in effect so not a big deal

    Point is the people decided and knew what was best for them when the state wanted to slash their pay

    Uber drivers in Cali voted this shit down. Unions are worthless unless your a public leech. If they weren't people would join them

    Because we're REAL Americans.

    HtH
    There was a time when teachers weren't unionized either because they were considered and considered themselves as professionals. Not quite at the status of lawyer, doctors but the next rung down of educated people.
    There was a time when the vast majority of teachers were women because you didn't need to pay women much.
    That time is still today. Most teachers are still women and given the quality of their work most are vastly overpaid.
    Most. Not nearly as overwhelmingly, which is what I said.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,029

    Why aren't lawyer's in a union?

    rhetorical

    We fought a decade long battle with the state of washington on independent contractors and won. I always let the union reps talk to our crews and they always told the union to fuck off. 100K a year in the 80's

    Or 17 bucks an hour with hours regulated. Tough call

    Yeah you had to work hard and buy your own insurance but Obamacare wasn't in effect so not a big deal

    Point is the people decided and knew what was best for them when the state wanted to slash their pay

    Uber drivers in Cali voted this shit down. Unions are worthless unless your a public leech. If they weren't people would join them

    Because we're REAL Americans.

    HtH
    My floor crews were even more American
    Hey, we're not the ones steering the country toward a planned economis. That's the Populist Bros.

    We? take what the market yields. The American way. We don't look for no protection.

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,767 Founders Club

    Why aren't lawyer's in a union?

    rhetorical

    We fought a decade long battle with the state of washington on independent contractors and won. I always let the union reps talk to our crews and they always told the union to fuck off. 100K a year in the 80's

    Or 17 bucks an hour with hours regulated. Tough call

    Yeah you had to work hard and buy your own insurance but Obamacare wasn't in effect so not a big deal

    Point is the people decided and knew what was best for them when the state wanted to slash their pay

    Uber drivers in Cali voted this shit down. Unions are worthless unless your a public leech. If they weren't people would join them

    Because we're REAL Americans.

    HtH
    My floor crews were even more American
    Hey, we're not the ones steering the country toward a planned economis. That's the Populist Bros.

    We? take what the market yields. The American way. We don't look for no protection.

    Every country defends their borders and decides who gets in

    Fuck off with the bullshit

    Destroying good wages by importing people who can be exploited is not American

    You look for plenty of protection. You just don't think it should be for everyone

    Take this weak shit to your knitting board
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,220 Founders Club

    Why aren't lawyer's in a union?

    rhetorical

    We fought a decade long battle with the state of washington on independent contractors and won. I always let the union reps talk to our crews and they always told the union to fuck off. 100K a year in the 80's

    Or 17 bucks an hour with hours regulated. Tough call

    Yeah you had to work hard and buy your own insurance but Obamacare wasn't in effect so not a big deal

    Point is the people decided and knew what was best for them when the state wanted to slash their pay

    Uber drivers in Cali voted this shit down. Unions are worthless unless your a public leech. If they weren't people would join them

    Because we're REAL Americans.

    HtH
    My floor crews were even more American
    Hey, we're not the ones steering the country toward a planned economis. That's the Populist Bros.

    We? take what the market yields. The American way. We don't look for no protection.

    Every country defends their borders and decides who gets in

    Fuck off with the bullshit

    Destroying good wages by importing people who can be exploited is not American

    You look for plenty of protection. You just don't think it should be for everyone

    Take this weak shit to your knitting board
    Have a little respeck. @creepycoug 's taco benders cuban sammich maker homies kept you in the game down there in Florida. Those guysm hate commies.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,029

    Why aren't lawyer's in a union?

    rhetorical

    We fought a decade long battle with the state of washington on independent contractors and won. I always let the union reps talk to our crews and they always told the union to fuck off. 100K a year in the 80's

    Or 17 bucks an hour with hours regulated. Tough call

    Yeah you had to work hard and buy your own insurance but Obamacare wasn't in effect so not a big deal

    Point is the people decided and knew what was best for them when the state wanted to slash their pay

    Uber drivers in Cali voted this shit down. Unions are worthless unless your a public leech. If they weren't people would join them

    Because we're REAL Americans.

    HtH
    My floor crews were even more American
    Hey, we're not the ones steering the country toward a planned economis. That's the Populist Bros.

    We? take what the market yields. The American way. We don't look for no protection.

    Every country defends their borders and decides who gets in

    Fuck off with the bullshit

    Destroying good wages by importing people who can be exploited is not American

    You look for plenty of protection. You just don't think it should be for everyone

    Take this weak shit to your knitting board
    I literally don't know what the fuck you're talking about old man. But you're about to blast a hole in your panties. Just some lawyer humor for Fuck's sake. Calm down.

    Also, you're wrong.

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,767 Founders Club
    Nogaf about Cubans or Mexicans

    They make great Americans

    Destroying wages by exploiting illegals doesn't

    So like I said take your protectionism bullshit to the knitting board
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,029

    Nogaf about Cubans or Mexicans

    They make great Americans

    Destroying wages by exploiting illegals doesn't

    So like I said take your protectionism bullshit to the knitting board

    Commie
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,767 Founders Club

    Nogaf about Cubans or Mexicans

    They make great Americans

    Destroying wages by exploiting illegals doesn't

    So like I said take your protectionism bullshit to the knitting board

    Commie
    Damn right
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,767 Founders Club